3:48 Cab overhang on curves was a prototypical issue, so it's almost more realistic to see it swing out like this! Earlier versions had a 2 wheel pilot, and crews were unnerved by how often the cab swung out during curves. The 4 wheel pilot helped, but still could be nerve wracking.
I’m like you Mike. I was never a fan of the cab forwards until I got my hands on one. Now I have two and I love them. Both Lionmaster LC2, one Daylight one Southern Pacific Lines. Also you’re not alone with the front truck derailment. Both of mine do it all the time for some reason. Happens more on S curves like you said but sometimes for no reason it will derail on a straight track lol. Must be a design issue.
Very nice! The cab-forwards are some real cool locomotives. I really like semi-scale equipment. Not so much for curves, as I have the larger diameter curves on my layout. I just think that they look better on the more medium/larger-sized layouts, like mine. As for that curve, you could calm-down the transition by using a larger diameter curve at the start and the going to the tighter curves after. It really doesn't increase the total diameter, but just makes the entry less abrupt, especially where that curve changes direction. I've done that on my inner loops and it works quite well. Either way, that is one gorgeous locomotive. An excellent video, as always.
There are a couple legacy version of the Cab forward yes the 2010 one you mentioned but Lionel did it in 22 I believe in the lark scheme I know for sure really want one great vid!
As usual awesome review and history lesson! you know I'm all in on lionmaster but just can't fall in love with the cab forwards, just look odd to me. Also, S curves are a known issue, you should always try to put a small straight in between two curves that are creating an S, helps with those derailing issues you mentioned.
I love the cab forward since it's a weird-ish steamer. Kinda my thing is random things but hey it works. I do have a suggestion for that O84 to O48 point. If you have the space to slightly wiggle the tracks, you could put a 1 3/4 piece of fastrack in there. I had used to have something like that but it was both O48 to O48 and it definitely helped with front pilots jumping around! Just an idea!
If you can't squeeze a track piece in there have you tried slightly banking the turn at the derail point? I'm guessing it derails on the outside and if so maybe a slight bank can help. I've fixed a few problems with that myself.
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Love the engine! Especially te backward forward thinking pun ❤
Great looking engine I always like the cab forward design 👍👍
I'm happy u did a review, the cab forward is my favorite locomotive of all time!
It’s a really neat concept! Have you seen the real one at the museum?
@@Dadified86 sadly not yet but i really want to
3:48 Cab overhang on curves was a prototypical issue, so it's almost more realistic to see it swing out like this! Earlier versions had a 2 wheel pilot, and crews were unnerved by how often the cab swung out during curves. The 4 wheel pilot helped, but still could be nerve wracking.
Very cool! Thanks for the insight!
I’m like you Mike. I was never a fan of the cab forwards until I got my hands on one. Now I have two and I love them. Both Lionmaster LC2, one Daylight one Southern Pacific Lines. Also you’re not alone with the front truck derailment. Both of mine do it all the time for some reason. Happens more on S curves like you said but sometimes for no reason it will derail on a straight track lol. Must be a design issue.
Ahh! Thanks for telling me about yours! Also jealous of your variations. Those are very cool, especially the SP Lines one!!
Very nice! The cab-forwards are some real cool locomotives. I really like semi-scale equipment. Not so much for curves, as I have the larger diameter curves on my layout. I just think that they look better on the more medium/larger-sized layouts, like mine. As for that curve, you could calm-down the transition by using a larger diameter curve at the start and the going to the tighter curves after. It really doesn't increase the total diameter, but just makes the entry less abrupt, especially where that curve changes direction. I've done that on my inner loops and it works quite well. Either way, that is one gorgeous locomotive. An excellent video, as always.
Being an SP fan and living within an hour to 4294, I had to get one myself. Mine is the legacy, scale one, but the LionChief one seems very nice!
If we had the space I’d get the scale one! But I’m really glad they made one that can handle our turns!
There are a couple legacy version of the Cab forward yes the 2010 one you mentioned but Lionel did it in 22 I believe in the lark scheme I know for sure really want one great vid!
Ok thanks a lot. Now I have to have one. Great Video
They can be tricky to find! Hope you find one!
As usual awesome review and history lesson! you know I'm all in on lionmaster but just can't fall in love with the cab forwards, just look odd to me. Also, S curves are a known issue, you should always try to put a small straight in between two curves that are creating an S, helps with those derailing issues you mentioned.
Found the community post after school
Hope you enjoyed it!
Looking forward to the next vid enjoyed. It!
I love the cab forward since it's a weird-ish steamer. Kinda my thing is random things but hey it works.
I do have a suggestion for that O84 to O48 point. If you have the space to slightly wiggle the tracks, you could put a 1 3/4 piece of fastrack in there. I had used to have something like that but it was both O48 to O48 and it definitely helped with front pilots jumping around! Just an idea!
I would try that but I’m outta space! This layout maximized the space I have down here.
@@Dadified86 Dang. Worth telling you in case!
If you can't squeeze a track piece in there have you tried slightly banking the turn at the derail point? I'm guessing it derails on the outside and if so maybe a slight bank can help. I've fixed a few problems with that myself.
That is soo cool, i wonder if you could make a custom by flipping the shell on a big boy
The Big Backwards Boy! Close off the cab and then oil fire it. Because that’s a long walk to bring a shovel fulla coal
@@Dadified86 yeah how hard would be on a Lionel Santa fe 4 4 2 (loco number 8632
6:36 that the fault. I learned one thing. Never do a S curve.
Never had a problem with it until this one
@Dadified86 Some engines act differently to certain types of curves. It probably how they did the draw bar.
@@gamerfan8445 I don’t see how the drawbar could mess with the wheels up front under the cab
@Dadified86 I was referring to the part that connects the front truck to the locomotive.
@@gamerfan8445 ah I’m so used to the drawbar being at the rear 😅
I’m all backwards with this Cab Forward