Ok little update, since the video was posted, the spec got nerfed 1 day after i released the video 😂. (30% less ST and aoe dps) That said a lot of specs got hit, im still able too do around 90k ST dps and 100-180k AOE. (compared too other builds right now in the meta, the aoe is not bad, but the ST dps is mid or even bad (compared too twilight tortion and some other builds), and the effort too achieve the damage is also insanly high) (with perfect talents and cracked gear over 4,2k fire power only selfbuffed, no consumes) My plan is too use the spec for M+, Raid Trials, i might swap for pure ST dps too Wild Imp spec, cuz that one will do more ST dps for sure. (from DAVIDRICHARD'S IMP JESUS)
Oil dipped works for pet if you got smoldring companion, i dont use it, as it just has so many problems. 1. Only realy usefull for ST dps. 2. The duration is not the best. 3. 1.5 sec gcd and does not generat 1 Tesla Coil stack. In my opinion its just not worth the hassle.
@Reyra29 thought about it cause my masochistic self rolled it when lvling to try (and probably give up cause s9 is a grind chore) to roll your build. Got it and went "ayo, does this work with smoldering pet? Didnt Reyra use similar frost buff with a frost pet?"
@@The_Yukki y not sure how bad the grind is now, i just have infinite rerolls or can salt all the time. Altho i like tbc, is fun. If you wanna play Demon and GUN, this is pretty much the only chance now, as it will be gone after Season 9 ; / Season 10 is hopefully bussing with beast and blade beeing back etc.
@@tjeerd1982 with intellect buff + my totem buffs + double flametongue and summon felguard out 4030 fire spellpower 🔥🔥🔥(consums missing and the 5% from demonic pact) I believe i once glared at my screen in raid and had like 4700 spellpower, which was probably almost 5k fire spell damage.
I would highly not recommend playing it in Manastorm xd, its just really annoying too keep the buffs up, but if you do prolly the M+ Version but modified, as you rampage and trueshot aura, but you also need stuff that not on the list mostly Blood Arrow + Master's Meatshield too keep you pet alive, also Righteous Defense and Vigilance would be kinda useless and can be swapped, Commanding Shout is also a good idea, in my old build i also stacked a lot of stamina, so my demon healthpool was higher + used Demonic Resillience. I used some special version for Manastorm at 60, but the version changed too much, i ran at some point into the issue that my pet would just die too fast at around 1400+ Manastorm xd.
Core + Optimal is are the best ones, that we aim too get. Empowered are just some stuff that could be kept until you get all core + optimal ones. Core provides the biggest boost, these you want instandly too even start doing damage with the build. (Dark Domination, Fel Damnation and Tesla Coil Collar are not 100% needed but you need it for a perfect rotation) Most important other talents are: 1x Companion talent (too change the autos too magic damage, any of them are good atm) and the just other stuff that increases pet damage like Unleashed Fury, Demonic Brutality, Unholy Power, Improved Demonic Tactics, Feroctiy (hunter). The worst talent or least important are all the % crit talent we use, after than least important are spell power talent that dont give too much like 32 from Totemic focus. Demonic Pact on the other hand is huge. Hope this helps a bit ; )
it seems like I dont understand something about how to build cause I have 125 item level and my spell power is only 3k at most, are the enchants that strong?
I only calculated it badly, but in my calc its 123k ST dps goes down too 94k 💀 and aoe dps also goes down both roughly 30% less damage..... We gotta see how its turn out, very annoying tho, so much effort for 94k dps in the end seems good, but thats pretty much max in a 2min+ fight. There is some aoe tech im not using atm, that might be better now, but fixing ther ST nerfs, is probably impossible and one has too play Wild Imps spec for that...... but ill look into it and update at least my spreadsheet + architect for that.
Coldshot nerf was not too bad, issue is the Frenzied Cleave nerf which is still not live, they kinda forgot, but it should still happen, which would nerf aoe by around 30% and ST by another 16%, which is not good My best dps rigth now is around 108-114k ST dps, with perfect rotation + almost the best gear available. In Comparison it already pushed me from our St dps number*s from 1 too around 4-5 place. (i did 120k st before the coldshot nerf or even more if short fight) If the ST is nerfed again, im at the bottom of our ST dps ; /. Aoe would prolly still be fine, i saw other builds do my dps in dungeon. But we will lose 30% aoe dps if the frenzied nerf goes live. So tbh, i would recommend either waiting until the nerf is finally live, so i can acces all the damage and maybe complain that the nerf is too high or if you really wanna test it out, just go for it if you got the resources too spend ; )
ye 600 scrolls is rought, normaly manastorm first clear of each level solo/duo etc.. give good amount of scrolls and they seperated, you can get first clear on them seperate, besides that just playing callboard dailys dungeon/raids.
yep sadly, well its time too complain after we see how much damage we loose, when the frenzied cleav nerf goes live. Losing 13-15% ST dps was not too bad, and some aoe, with the Coldshot nerf, but frenzied will be another 16% ST loss and 30% ish aoe 💀
Ok little update, since the video was posted, the spec got nerfed 1 day after i released the video 😂. (30% less ST and aoe dps)
That said a lot of specs got hit, im still able too do around 90k ST dps and 100-180k AOE. (compared too other builds right now in the meta, the aoe is not bad, but the ST dps is mid or even bad (compared too twilight tortion and some other builds), and the effort too achieve the damage is also insanly high)
(with perfect talents and cracked gear over 4,2k fire power only selfbuffed, no consumes)
My plan is too use the spec for M+, Raid Trials, i might swap for pure ST dps too Wild Imp spec, cuz that one will do more ST dps for sure. (from DAVIDRICHARD'S IMP JESUS)
@@Reyra29 keine 100k dps mehr😨I didn't do above 20k ST with the build just cause I don't Demonic Reoccurence as core spell
@@darky13913 😭
Great commitment to perfecting and refining this!
there it is! ready to watch this :) ty for it! .. - shortlegs
The intro 😂 👌
With the frost pet nerf, have you thought about fire pet with oil shot increasing "caster's fire damage"? Idk if it'll work on pet damage though
Oil dipped works for pet if you got smoldring companion, i dont use it, as it just has so many problems.
1. Only realy usefull for ST dps.
2. The duration is not the best.
3. 1.5 sec gcd and does not generat 1 Tesla Coil stack.
In my opinion its just not worth the hassle.
@Reyra29 thought about it cause my masochistic self rolled it when lvling to try (and probably give up cause s9 is a grind chore) to roll your build. Got it and went "ayo, does this work with smoldering pet? Didnt Reyra use similar frost buff with a frost pet?"
@@The_Yukki y not sure how bad the grind is now, i just have infinite rerolls or can salt all the time.
Altho i like tbc, is fun.
If you wanna play Demon and GUN, this is pretty much the only chance now, as it will be gone after Season 9 ; /
Season 10 is hopefully bussing with beast and blade beeing back etc.
much love
mate you can have 2x 14 SP gem. one is called kailee's Rose and the other one is DOn Julio's Heart.
true i kinda forgot, already added too the spreadsheet, thanks ; )
@@Reyra29 how much Fire sp do you have?
@@tjeerd1982 with intellect buff + my totem buffs + double flametongue and summon felguard out 4030 fire spellpower 🔥🔥🔥(consums missing and the 5% from demonic pact)
I believe i once glared at my screen in raid and had like 4700 spellpower, which was probably almost 5k fire spell damage.
Great video as always ! where are you from? sounds so german :D
thanks, yea german ; )
60k up to 100k pet dmg is disgusting.
Hi. if my main focus is manastorms should i follow the M+ version or the Raid version? thanks
I would highly not recommend playing it in Manastorm xd, its just really annoying too keep the buffs up, but if you do prolly the M+ Version but modified, as you rampage and trueshot aura, but you also need stuff that not on the list mostly Blood Arrow + Master's Meatshield too keep you pet alive, also Righteous Defense and Vigilance would be kinda useless and can be swapped, Commanding Shout is also a good idea, in my old build i also stacked a lot of stamina, so my demon healthpool was higher + used Demonic Resillience.
I used some special version for Manastorm at 60, but the version changed too much, i ran at some point into the issue that my pet would just die too fast at around 1400+ Manastorm xd.
so what i chose if i wanna play this build core+optimal or core +empowering help the new
Core + Optimal is are the best ones, that we aim too get. Empowered are just some stuff that could be kept until you get all core + optimal ones.
Core provides the biggest boost, these you want instandly too even start doing damage with the build. (Dark Domination, Fel Damnation and Tesla Coil Collar are not 100% needed but you need it for a perfect rotation)
Most important other talents are: 1x Companion talent (too change the autos too magic damage, any of them are good atm) and the just other stuff that increases pet damage like Unleashed Fury, Demonic Brutality, Unholy Power, Improved Demonic Tactics, Feroctiy (hunter).
The worst talent or least important are all the % crit talent we use, after than least important are spell power talent that dont give too much like 32 from Totemic focus. Demonic Pact on the other hand is huge.
Hope this helps a bit ; )
it seems like I dont understand something about how to build cause I have 125 item level and my spell power is only 3k at most, are the enchants that strong?
enchants yes, are huge, but also item level is not important, but having the right spell power items that give huge amounts of spell power.
i try it its too complicated to play too many buttons, and i dont do the damage :(
how much do you expect the nerfs to lower dps? very sad to see it nerfed i haven't been able to roll it yet and it looks by far the most interesting.
I only calculated it badly, but in my calc its 123k ST dps goes down too 94k 💀 and aoe dps also goes down both roughly 30% less damage.....
We gotta see how its turn out, very annoying tho, so much effort for 94k dps in the end seems good, but thats pretty much max in a 2min+ fight.
There is some aoe tech im not using atm, that might be better now, but fixing ther ST nerfs, is probably impossible and one has too play Wild Imps spec for that...... but ill look into it and update at least my spreadsheet + architect for that.
which pvp set is best for this build?
no idea, i did not ty any pvp yet with it, but one kinda needs to modify it for pvp anyway.
Is this build dead from the nerf? Was about to try to see if I could start it but wasn't sure if I should do somethign else
Coldshot nerf was not too bad, issue is the Frenzied Cleave nerf which is still not live, they kinda forgot, but it should still happen, which would nerf aoe by around 30% and ST by another 16%, which is not good
My best dps rigth now is around 108-114k ST dps, with perfect rotation + almost the best gear available.
In Comparison it already pushed me from our St dps number*s from 1 too around 4-5 place. (i did 120k st before the coldshot nerf or even more if short fight)
If the ST is nerfed again, im at the bottom of our ST dps ; /.
Aoe would prolly still be fine, i saw other builds do my dps in dungeon. But we will lose 30% aoe dps if the frenzied nerf goes live.
So tbh, i would recommend either waiting until the nerf is finally live, so i can acces all the damage and maybe complain that the nerf is too high or if you really wanna test it out, just go for it if you got the resources too spend ; )
@@Reyra29 Thanks Reyra. Great build and guide. Looks so baller.
I used 600 scrolls and didnt get demonic reoccurance nor persistence, I am so unlucky and idk what is the fastest way to get scrolls
ye 600 scrolls is rought, normaly manastorm first clear of each level solo/duo etc.. give good amount of scrolls and they seperated, you can get first clear on them seperate, besides that just playing callboard dailys dungeon/raids.
would to play but i am a area 52 player
ahh . Asc does not want ppl to enjoy this build. And i just rolled it at 100% every skill and talent.
yep sadly, well its time too complain after we see how much damage we loose, when the frenzied cleav nerf goes live.
Losing 13-15% ST dps was not too bad, and some aoe, with the Coldshot nerf, but frenzied will be another 16% ST loss and 30% ish aoe 💀