Kickflip doesn't flip? DON'T flick harder. DO keep it compact.
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This might be the best skateboard tutorial I’ve ever watched
Man I don’t know of any other channel that goes in such detail for skateboarding, been following for a while now and finally ready for the kickflip. This helped like crazy and the program is such a good idea please go full force with it and license it so it won’t get taken, you deserve it🙌🏾🔥
Hi thanks for the comment!
Kindly give it a shot and give me your feedback!
Rodney Mullen would love this channel
Wow... 8 years of skateboarding and I'm still learning how to make my tricks better. This video improved my kickflip after only a single watch. Amazing.
what did you change from what you were doing to from what you learned from this video?
@@nextlvlroy thinking about getting full extension throw my popping foot
Truck looseness/tightness can effect foot placement because you want the board flat at the beginning of the trick. Too much lead foot gets in the way of the board. The back foot to stabilize can get in the way too. Flicking with aggressive pressure early can provide a full flip w/the board meeting your foot flat.
If you are balanced on your board, the looseness of your trucks makes actually zero difference. If you stand on the edge of the board to one side too much, either put your popping foot more in the middle of the pocket or lean more towards your toes to compensate. It's possible to be balanced on a skateboard with very very loose trucks, just fine. If you are not balanced, then you are _absolutely_ leaning too far back (at least during the pop). It also does not matter how much of your front foot is on the board either. You can do kickflips with your front foot hanging over in a complete 'heel flip' position. The real position of your front foot actually does not matter. The direction you flick to and how much force in which directions, does matter 100%.
@PHeMoX Of course ( Matt Rodriguez, or Daewon) but this is for beginners who haven't developed the muscles in their legs yet. That takes awhile of consistent skateboarding to loose that baby animal standing on all 4 for the first time. Not saying you're wrong, just trying to pace needed info out in a realistic/practical way for beginners. 🤝
Only if a beginners leg muscles are somehow weaker than the strength just one of their fingers possess. Did you even watch the video man? Lol
@Paul Vawter 17 likes later I finally got a troll.🙄
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Nice! I also feel that leading with your knee helps keep the board under you. When you lead with your foot the board tends to shoot forward away from you.
Great tip, thanks! This is the problem I have
do you also jump back?
@@nextlvlroy A kickflip is basically a skip with a flick. Don’t jump back but stay squared towards the back of your beard.
1. Skip straight up with your knee to the side and your foot under you. Remember to jump up high and not just your legs. Your head should be higher than it
2. Wait for your knee to get as high as you can before flicking straight out. Keep it level, don’t kick down or up.
Look up Tom’s Tutorials for another good video on kickflips and heelflips.
Hopefully this was helpful
Yo! I love your videos and generally agree with everything you say, so I hope you’re open to hearing skater/peer feedback on a tip you covered about weight distribution (5:52).
Putting your weight toward the front foot at the moment of flick may be specific to your kick flip technique where your shoulders are almost perpendicular to the board. After years of trial and error, I had the opposite experience. I get substantially more pop and control if,
1. Angle shoulders towards the direction your front foot’s pointing (usually 30°-45°)
2. At the moment of pop put your weight on the back foot, (make sure your standing on the ball of your foot) to the point where you’re basically using your front foot to just keep the board down. When you bend down, align your center of gravity with the horizontal center of the board (heel to toe side). You should be in squat position facing the same direction as your shoulders.
Straighten your back a little bit and look forward rather than hunching down. For reference, your head should hopefully be over the middle of your board (long-ways).
Now, with all your weight distributed on the back foot on over the center of the tale, the front foot can relax and placing more of your shoe’s surface area on the board won’t affect your crispy pop 💥
Plus your front foot/ankle’s relaxed so it’s more responsive. So now while extending your knee, foot, then entire leg through the nose (in that order, like a karate kick) your foot will act less stiff and more similarly to a rubber band. You’ll find that it takes half the effort to fully flip the board, allowing the board to remain in a controlled position.
The next time you’re watching Pro skate videos, when they’re bent down about to flick, observe where their center of gravity is located rather than their weight.
Again, love your videos man - your teaching method is SO refreshing! Looking forward to your next one.
Great point! Thanks for the feedback!
Very cool idea with the motion sensing 3D app! Can’t wait to try it out.
I’m verrry slowly clawing my way towards kickflips. I’ve landed only two, stationary, in about 6 months of near-daily practice. I am getting much closer than I used to be, but right now I’m still having trouble with the board turning backside, or (when I get closest to landing) landing with my feet too close together, at the tail, and slipping out. I have found it really key to visualize flicking down slightly at the edge of the nose, with that rotational motion. What a shockingly hard trick to nail down!
You should
1. License that app
2. Include the skateboard in the model, respectfully
It’s so annoying because I can only flip it halfway
I love the fact that skating is just physics, having concrete mathematical reasons why things must go right or wrong gives me a much stronger foundation to work off of
I can rn, but in a week or so I'll have my Pc up and running and I'd love nothing more than to give the AI a shot :)
this dude is the best example of dedication
i've been typing in "Skateboard physics" on youtube for YEARSSSS looking for something exactly like this....
That park you always skate at looks so perfect. I'm in Tokyo and I can't find too many flat ground spots that I like.
I know, right? It’s Tamachi skate park. Komazawa’s also big but tend to be crowded all the time.
you are a freaking genius.
Back in the day the only way I could figure out a kickflip was pausing my THUG games
sorry, but you have the physics of the Y axis wrong... it's in the middle when the board is at rest or when entropy has dispersed energy. however, because the board is balanced with metal trucks, the faster moving end is heavier. if you know anything about physics, then you should know that objects rotate at the point of highest mass. momentum is inertia, and inertia is energy, and energy equals mass. the density of the trucks holds inertia and becomes the pivot point. the pocket is on the other side of that pivot point and is why kickflips/heels/nollie flip/fakie flips/etc. are caught with the opposite foot that flips. weight transfers.
I just change my board from 8 popsicle to 9.34 shaped and wheel from 52mm to 54mm and hardness from 97d to 101d. So far my ollie super poppy and landed 95% of tries but my flick trick all were off. This video help me to land some. Thanks
great vid :) I would love to see a whythetrick on the physics of an impossible and how to scoop them
i'm a computer programmer, learning to skateboard. both the content, and software looks great. is this guy developing the software?
I have the worst habit of flicking out and up which causes the deck to half flip but yes the kickflip is almost a angled down flick 👍
Bro, I’ve been skating for 30+ years; and, this is the best explanation of the kickflip I have ever seen.
Is this similar for nollie flips or totally different? Bc theres a different pop and direction of momentum. Ive been trying to learn nollie flips and im having them stick often. My kickflips are dialed and fairly well popped/caught
In the not-to-distant future humans who can successfully kick flip will attract mates for procreation; those who cannot kick flip will go extinct.
I don't know why you aren't the biggest skate channel on youtube. You nad SkateIQ is the very best.
Maaaaaan if this kind of information was available when I was a kid… I would be a pro boarder 😅
Don't know if you read these anymore, but if you are thinking about a new round of why the trick break downs, maybe curb/ledge tricks? The science behind the feeble grind on a curb? Thank you for all the work you put into these and I hope you are making progress with your converter.
Hi thanks for the comment! I always see all comments. Especially suggestion like yours is too valuable to miss. Will try!
I’d imagine that trying to cover anything other than solely flat ground tricks (and by flat ground I mean perfectly level surface), would be trying to add-in/cover wayyyyy too many variables at that point. As with each new variable introduced, the number of possible outcomes/influences/combinations/complications becomes exponentially more varied by orders of magnitude. I mean you see how many variables there are just between both of your feet, the decks nose/tail/wheels, your shoulders, your weight distribution/center of gravity, timing of everything, etc. now add another object in the mix like a curb. And it would have to only ever be a curb of consistent height/slope that stays exactly uniform throughout itself relative to the ground it’s next to/your skating on. Then trying to convert that to 3d models… when one day the curb is freshly waxed, the next it isn’t… just that one factor alone makes too many inconsistencies. Cause remember, these 3d diagrams are based off of him actuslly skating/real life. It would just be too convoluted. Something like a mini ramp might be possible. As they tend to be much more uniform. Aslong as he only ever did it in the same exact miniramp. But still… just a lot of variables. This is the reason I believe most skaters say you have to go “by feel” when it comes to so many things. Because breaking them down scientifically is just exhaustingly complex/convoluted.
Nice animations! The shoulders in your example flips are way to open...A good advice is also to stay in line with the board
Thanks for the tips! I’ve been working on my flick and this helps.
Sand the part of the board you flick . Makes kick flips much easier .
Skateboarding is all subconscious physics equations. I normally am skating best when im ballanced nose to tail and heel to toe
You gotta do one for heelflip
lmaoi just realizing that fingerboard and skateboard literally had the same motion,, if too fast to flick the finger, it will overflip or even not flippin at all,
learn to flip first rather than landing it first is on point!
Love these videos! Great info
Gave the motion converter a try, not sure if it the videos I used were optimal, but didn't have the best output.
Maybe you could display a good example video on the site as reference?
Ahhhh…..okay that’d be nice. Thanks for the feedback!
Is this America? This area look so nice to practise skating man... Im jealous
Thanks for the comment. It’s Japan.
@@whythetrick would love to see you collab with Isamu Yamamoto. Seeing some of the freestyle moves (like maybe primo flips) would be amazing with your models and explanations
Any tips of how to land with both feet cause the foot that only lands is my back foot
HOW HOW HOW ON EARTH this video is not getting millions of views 😓😓😓😓😓 Man! RUclips should have already awarded you, dont tell me something else 😩
Ya! You rock!!!!!!
Haha yeah I know, right. Thanks for the comment!
your like the bruce lee of skate philosophy :)
ありがとございますにはキックフリプ学習。I'm finally feeling comfortable enough with my ollies that I started practicing this trick too, great timing :)
awesome! it's all physics!
👍😎👍
lift the body too high?
I totally disagree at this point
You can watch it from Kelly Hart
From 0:02-0:05
ruclips.net/video/cC7VEqn-mUM/видео.html
Key to watch
Shoulder level Hip level while he stands still before he starts crouching down
Shoulder and hip level after fully extending the entire body
While he is in the middle of kickflip
and he doesn't tuck his knees too high
another example from Wade Desarmo Nollie kickflip at 1:01 ruclips.net/video/P2ubaysIpI0/видео.html
Good point! thanks!
I love when he says "liftin ya bodi" ❤
Do bs and fs 360 please I'm trying to learn these I'm almost learning but I can't understand how my foot will scoop middle 180
hi thanks for the suggestion. will try!
I watched the way Aimu does kickflips and it’s like he counter balance’s his feet by the way his feet are positioned.I tried it and what it does it it forces the trucks to be straight as you snap the tail.Using counter balance the pop is explosive and it literally sucks up to your feet.If it wasn’t for a skater from Nippon I would have never have known that.I have been skating since 2001 and I changed the way I do kickflip’s because of a guy who wasn’t even born when I starting skateboarding.Shout out to the Nippon skate scene much respect from New Zealand.
My problem is I cant land with my back foot, ive got the motion down & everything just cant commit. any advice?
Sorry for a delayed response.
When I was not confident on getting back on my board, I used to practice flipping my board as low as possible. After enough practice, when I thought I knew how my board flips, I finally started commiting to get back on my board.
This is gonna definitely help me. I always tried learning kickflips head on without much practice because I thought I had a decent understanding of the flick and could consistently land them standing still. But moving made it really scary trying to get my front foot back on the board, back foot always made it though. So the back foot step off should give me a feel for keeping my front foot closer to the board for landing.
Thank you for these videos. They are so interesting and give me lots to think about as I'm skating and trying tricks.
Glad you like them!
bro explained it so good i learned math
Great content, very informative!!
Thank you for these videos, you are a blessing
love your videos but i don't think flicking the board during a kickflip should be compared to flipping the board with your hands because your backfoot doesn't help flip the board like your right hand is doing in the intro. so when you're showing how you could flip it with "your finger" it's really your finger plus some extra help from the other hand lifting/spinning it from the bottom
Why I can’t convert my .MOV video?
It’s less than 20Mb.
Checked the server but the sysmtem's running just fine.
Kindly send a detailed symptoms from the contact form if it persists.
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Smthn that happens to me that i dont know how to fix and i haven't found any tutorials about is that i can't flick to the right,( i'm a goofy stance) so as mutch as i try to flick to the right i just push the left pocket down instead of the right pocker up does anyone know how to fix tht?
I think I have the same problem.
I'm regular footed and I can't quite flick to my left. Sometimes I end up pushing my board forward.
When that happnes, I try opening my shoulders exaggeratingly. That way, it's easier for me to flick. Just my personal preference though.
My usual method for trying tricks(but kickflip in particular) was to bend down but before lifting my knees, CHARGE Up my front foot to flick soon as i lifted up into my pop, similar to what you would do in a pop shuv it with your back foot . I THEN REALISED while holding on to a gate trying kickflips that this method was actually making it impossible for my board to lift up because it pushes the nose down and the tail agains my foot making it catch and impossible to flip(Hence the sticking). So i figured out that lifting both knees straight up and your foot straight up then flickin "late" works better. This method made my tricks higher and also now im able to grab the board
you are crazy man. you can create by modeling with science analytical. thanks man. it worked
Glad to hear that!!
I love that you included 3d models. As a 3d modeler and skater, I appreciate the work put into this video. Also good tips 🤘
One of the key things you said was shift the weight to the front foot right as you pop. That had immediate results for my foot flicking along with pulling my front leg up and bending the leg like I am doing a high knee but keeping my shoulders in line with the deck so it doesn’t turn.
It's a TENDER ankle roll. Which is tough to do among so many other BIGGER motions going on at the same time. But once you get it, it's hard to lose it.
I hope the server hosting the software can handle the flow of skaters uploading all their sessions.... you will get a massive database
Another banger video and very helpful as I am currently dealing with pretty much all the issues you mention in this video. Definitely will apply these tips during my next session.
The motion converter is such a cool idea! I had a similar programming idea where instead of tracking the human body it would track various pieces of the skateboard. That way you could kind of visualize your pop or flick or whatever but from the point of view of the skateboard. Just a little idea I had, not fleshed out or anything.
You are the Best!
This is like so extreme and cool
I used to kick down for switch and nollie flips.. it worked but didn't look right.
its the leverage between the knee and ankle. the knee leads and ankle lags. as you flick your ankle towards your knee is the leverage that creates the power and how fast it flips.
Thanks for the video, I think it could be much more educational with a skater explaining in real time his/her experience. The background explanation is really good, but I think the other way it could be much more entertaining and also it would be easy to get familiar with for viewers watching as if a friend would be teaching us
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Good point! Thanks!
Eh… don’t dumb it down for that audience. They aren’t watching your videos anyways lol. The older skaters are here and we’d be insulted if you tried spoon feeding watered down info to us. That’s what makes your videos so great and different than anyone else’s. Homeboy should just make his own channel where he does audio voice overs of everything you’re saying in more skate-rat lingo like “you must counter act downward-momentum by evenly distributing your center of gravity” - “aight ch’all so what he’s saying is to pretend like when ur gonna pop, your front of of your deck is a hot-potatoe and your tail is a cold-potatoe. Don’t wanna put weight on a hot-potatoe cause, like, damn… shit hella-hot tho- but after you pop see the old potatoe-switcheroony happens like potatoes do knw wt I’m sayin’, n the tail gets hella sizzlin’ n the homies like “shit son, I better lean more on the front foot now cause colder-taters is where it’s at son!!!”
How do I get to the 3d model examples of the kick flip, on ur website?
Thanks for the comment. Just re-uploaded a 3D model on the following page.
whythetrick.io/how-to/kickflip-sticking-problem/
** sorry, it was not active until now.
Please give it a shot and give me feedback.
can you please make a science explanation on hardflip plss I want this trick so bad
Remember: It’s an ankle flick. Not a thigh kick.
True.
brooo thank you so muchhhh i love your videos as they give me so much insight on the physics portion of skating, as a person who loves physics and loves skating the perspective u give makes it more interesting thank you
Awesome video! I love skating, physics, and AI! And I'll try these tips, as I've had that exact issue with my kickflip attempts!
what if i cant jump too high?does this mean i must flip the board faster?
Mind sending me a video?
This vid helped so much. My flips got even better when I went with a shorter wheelbase.
So these are the people buying Monarch Project boards
haha i guess so.
they feel good!
I'd love to hear you talk about pumping on transitions
you have same board as me
Is this closed source?? If not, wud be cool to see open source repo so I can contribute
it's as closed as my heart lol
good idea though. thanks for the suggestion.
front knee leading in front of the nose is a huge part of the trick
As Chris Cole said in his trick tip, just go for it!!
Million dollar idea mate
I think most of 'front foot sticks to the board' stuff comes from people explaining how to do kickflips kind of incorrectly. I'm talking about the whole 'flick through the nose' stuff we often hear recommended. While it is not completely wrong, people will think fairly heavy friction and force into the nose is required to make it flip, but actually you only need to guide it a little bit and it will rotate at least halfway pretty much automatically. The more friction and force you put into the flick forward, the less the board will be allowed to rotate freely. For this issue, the type of kickflip (levelled out properly, rocket kick flip or even mob kickflip) actually does not matter. The issue is not related to the flick direction or 'style', but rather the intensity of friction and how long your front foot stays in contact with the board. Skaters like Nyjah have a very high amount of contact and friction in their kickflip flick, however with his foot position it's all only there for less than a split second, resulting in fairly fast, consistent kickflip rotations.
I think you are absolutely right.
"Flicking" and "pushing" is commonly mixed up.
Nyjah once said in an interview he puts only the tip of his toe osf his front foot, saying he doesn't flick so hard after all.
thats technical! wow
Was waiting for a new one.. and the one that I am stil fighting with...
My problem is that the board doesn’t even flip a bit at all it’s just like a rocketed ollie
I might be able to help you if you could send me a video on RUclips or IG. Thanks.
@@whythetrickah im seeing this late, but right now I’ve gotten it down to flipping the board but it keeps landing upside down
Another great vid love the science behind skating
When a physics student becomes a skater😂
I majored in psychology though.
Heel Filos next and why they sometimes go behind me.
Noted! Thanks for the recommendation!
Litteraly the best kickflip tutorial i saw, i saw so many since i have a hard time with this trick even though ive skated for years and im happy to see a proper tutorial with a more in depth vision
So what axis direction do I flick my foot? Sorry I’m confused.
Around the smallest axis.
@@whythetrick perpendicular to the top of the deck?
How can we find your motion analyzer?
Please try this.
whythetrick.io/converter-lite/
Hey mate, I just wanted to give some constructive criticism on your foot placement. Your pop foot is always too far towards the toe side of the board, which is going to really change the mechanics of all your tricks. For some tricks more toe side is where you want it, bigspins/tres/etc. but for ollies and kickflips you want it either in the middle of the tail or closer towards the heel side. If you look at any pro skater, you'll literally never see anyone with their foot in the same position as you and I think if you start going a bit more heel side you'll find more stability and your tricks will feel more comfortable. I think sometimes it would be useful to break down the mechanics of pro skaters as well as they've really spent time to figure out the most "optimal" way and foot placement for different tricks, as the way you personally do the trick is going to completely change your conclusion on the best way to do it. Hope that was useful. Your videos are great and I love the detailed breakdowns, keep it up!
Thanks for the comment! It would be fun to talk about/compare pro skaters ways somehow. Thanks for the idea!
Never thought I'd hear the sentence "I need your help" without someone asking me to like or suscribe on yt! Nice. I was very eager after your first kickflip video and the flick was working, but I didn't realise I kicked down. Plus for some reason I am unable to jump properly, even though I can ollie up curbs. If anyone has an idea how to overcome this, I'd appreciate it.
Glad I could help! Will see if I can talk about the jumping problem you mentioned.
superb video
This make sense
As soon as i done watchin your indepth explanations, i fixed the flicking direction and booom! Easily i executed my kickflip, hell i managed to flip it into nosemanual by accident too
Thanks bro
Can you do indepth on how to kickflip nosemanny?
Glad to be help!
Will try!
smply the best
Great video. Thank you
You are my savior, I’ve been scouring the internet for this exact trick tip thank you kind soul
Thanks for the comment! Give it a shot and give me feedback!
Which skatepark is this? Is it in Tokyo?
It’s Tamachi skate park in Tokyo.
Do rocket-flip kickflips
Ah, that'd be interesting. Will try. Cheers!
Other than what you've mentioned here, the problem I always have with kickflips is my board spinning sideways and hitting me hard in the shin. That is what makes me want to not practice them the most.
hope this one helps
ruclips.net/video/E9B4rAyOgVE/видео.html
You explain things so well thank you!
i give up i just keep cutting my legs up and i cant catch it with my front foot barely catch it with my back just not fit for skateboarding