The Wreck of USS Astoria - When Your Bow Lands On Your Stern
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2023
- Blithe title aside, USS Astoria is one of the more interesting shipwrecks out there. While by no means unique as a shipwreck- two of her sister ships are right there as well -Astoria has some quirks. The most notable, of course, being her bow.
This breaking off is par for the course with American cruisers. That it broke off and landed on top of the stern- specifically the hangar -is...rather less normal. It makes for an interesting image on the seabed, though.
The rest of the wreck is less unique, but still worth covering. Certainly for how well-preserved she was, for her relatively shallow depth.
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My father had very good friends whose son was a gunnery officer aboard Astoria - He was killed in action at Savo Island - his parents had divorced but after both being at the commissioning ceremony of the DE 795 USS Gunason honoring their son they realized their love for one another still remained snd remarried and I knew them in their old age many years later as “Aunt and Uncle” to me and my brothers - just a story about the lives lost and still remembered now
their son is happier because of the remarriage.🤗
My uncle was on the Astoria during the fight, he cried when he talked about it.
My dad was on bridge watch on the USS New Orleans less than twenty miles away. He told me once that you could hear the battle and see the flashes. It was frustrating at the time not knowing the outcome in real time. One Lessonlearned from Savo for Tassafaronga was to move the SOCs, AvGas and as much aviation ordinance as possible. The afternoon before Tassafaronga he launched his SOC and flew it to Espiritu Santo. All the cruisers moved their planes to safety.
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Thank you Sir,-that is very,-very interesting,-and a Salute for you Dad !!
man, your father is suppose get more respect and deserve at least.
Indulge my ignorance but could you tell me what SOC means?.
As sad as they are, I find these shipwreck videos quite fascinating.
Same
My Dad--C.P.O.-gunners-mate-(R.A,N.)--transferred,-from the "Canberra"-a week before she was lost,-to the cruiser "Australia"-where at LEYTE_GULF,--they got plastered by 10 Kamikazies,--and dodged more,--they nearly ran out of crew to man the guns,--they had to clean the ship up,--using "steam-hoses"--to get the gore off.--he lost a lot of mates on the "Canberra"--& the "mighty-Aussie"-(the navy buried his ashes at SEA-in 1995--R.I.P.-Dad,-a real good bloke !!
I thank Jaques Cousteau for my fascination with sunken vessels and I thank you for covering these ships and their stories. Great Work!
That's what got me into the ocean stuff and ship wrecks.
Your voice reminds if The lock picking lawyer. Don't worry, it's a compliment. Your tone an cadence are very similar. Thanks for your work.
As I've commented before about this ship, my mothers first husband died on this ship. Eugene Earl Amick was in the communications division I believe. One of my most treasured possessions is a series of photos showing my mother christening the DE USS Amick, (DE-168) named in his honor.
A year later, she met my father, a career Army officer.
She's magnificent. There are still more wrecks at Iron Bottom Sound. I hope they can be found.
Look for the book "The Lost Ships if Guadalcanal" by Robert Ballard.
I have always been fascinated by the Astoria's sinking. Quincy and Canberra got all the focus in the Ballard book and documentary, but I knew a lot about Astoria from visiting the Columbia River Maritime Museum in Astoria Oregon. Thanks for putting the video together.
Thank you for making this video. My great uncle CCM Edward Osborn was KIA aboard the Astoria. Not a lot was known about what happened to him.
Astoria probably fought the best fight of the three doomed cruisers
This is VERY interesting to me, as my Uncle Dale Merrill S1st class, and my Uncle Don Merrill both served on the Astoria, as well as the Quincy and Vincennes from 1934-1937
I think the issue with cruiser bows is the results of higher rigidity between the hull at the turrets and the actual bow. It is a design flaw but from the front of turret one and back. The turret requires a lot of rigidity, the armor starts about the typical fractur point.
Man, I cant tell you enough how much I enjoy your videos. Another banger
Having fired the oerlikon 20mm it is breech heavy if I remember correctly so it would naturally tip butt down if not locked .
"Ambushed"? That's being a bit generous.
"Ambush......a surprise attack by people in a concealed position"
Try "attacked when totally unprepared"
@@Mechanized85dude was addressing the terminology and definitions used , not the event and it’s outcome.
USS Chicago never told anyone, just slinked away from the battle. The whole battle was a horrific series of mistakes
I believe the only other similar shipwreck with the bow and stern coming to rest together like that is HMS Hood. Though it's been a little while since I've seen the documentary about her discovery so I'm not a hundred percent certain.
The USS Pittsburgh a Baltimore class cruiser lost its bow in a hurricane (Typhoon Viper).
Thank you for posting these videos for us all. Very informative and you learn something new everyday.
My cousin Harry F. Ray went down with the Astoria. His brother went down with the San Francisco
_Semper Fortis_
San Francisco didn't sink and survived the war, so check your facts!
No I guess it didn't. He died at sea on the San Francisco. Glad to get you excited!
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I went to iron bottom sound when I was 8 ,I’m 62 now and still remember it ,I was wondering why the sea was so blue so close to the islands ,just like out in the open ocean, I found out that it was 2,000 ft deep so that answered my question
God bless her crew
Great video thank you 😊
The shot diagram, and all the fires, looks like something from WoWS.
I wonder if the bow was caught up in the water turbulence as Astoria sank and that caused it to flip over the ship and land on her.
It wasn't just the US cruisers that were losing their bows that was a problem with destroyers as well.
Are there any photos of her the next morning?
I've never seen them...😢
The USS Juneau's mangled and detached stern landed directly on top of it's severed bow in the debris field.
I'm kinda confused. Did the bitter end of the anchor chain(s) stay attached to the forward bulkheads, and then foul the gun barrels as it sank, and just drag the bow section (and attached anchors) down to what happened to be the stern? Or did the bitter end stay with the blown off bow section?
You sky you need to put a few second buffer at the start of your vids. I feel like I always miss the first few words of the commentary. Great content as always though
Rip another warrior and her crew
I am guessing KMS Scharnhorst is the next vid just because she sank in December
Please!😊
Literally has her head lying on top of her rear end.
there were only two sentries, two destroyers checking the possible enemy route. A mistake.😢
Wow
I know several people whose bow is up their stern
What sort of weird ray/shark creature is that 3:36?
I know! Pretty bizarre looking.
I think it might be a shovelnose ray? But I am not an expert.
Almost looks like the chian has something to do with how the bow stayed with the ship
how in the world did the bow land on the ship thats very rare to see
I've never heard of it either but I think the stern of Juneau ended up landing on its bow, somehow.
It looks like, in this instance, the anchor chain may have had something to do with it? That chain is really incredibly strong enough that it may have been trailing the whole bow chunk along with it as it sank into the depths.
true i didnt think of that until later@@oldnick4707
The ship sank stern first, so when the bow broke off, it more than likely got yanked down with the chain as if fell out and wrapped up with the rest of the ship. I believe it was mentioned that the ship rolled over first, so it must have would the chain up a bit and pulled the bow down on top of it. I wonder if the bow did a Titanic and snapped off when the stern went under and the chain righted the ship so that it landed upright.
War is Hell.
Are you aware of how the 20mm Orelikon was cocked?
The gunner points the gun up. There's a rope lanyard that gets clipped to the deck, and the gunner stands up, the rope pulls the bolt back until it locks open. The ammo doesn't actually get loaded into the "chamber" of the Oerlikon until it gets fired.
@@darylmorning Yeah, the force of water could have pointed the guns up. Or, the guns were cocked and left in that position.
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I'm tired of hearing about the bearskin hoodie.
Poor bastard Astoria.