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  • why Stanford REJECTED me | a "star" student
    This video is a reflection of things I would change if I had to re-apply to college, using Stanford as a specific case study. I wanted to share in case it might help anyone applying now. Also, definitely check out wAmy's video if you haven't already!
    Also don't worry, I'm super at peace and incredibly happy with where I ended up going! This video was meant as a reflection to help other people applying and serve as a "what not to do" video of all my "mistakes" looking back - where I could have done better, and what I would tell someone to avoid if they came and asked for my advice, using my experience applying to Stanford as a specific example.
    I’ve also received many comments saying that I would definitely have gotten in if I was a different race, or that colleges “only want a certain race these days,” and wanted to say a few things. I specifically never mentioned race in my video as I viewed this video as a “what not to do” video, and if I were to go back and redo this process, being Asian is not something I can or would ever want to control, change, or “not do.” I also firmly believe in the importance and necessity of policies like affirmative action, and believe it to be separate from things like the effects of stereotyping and biases on Asians in education, ex. Harvard’s “personality scores.” As such, I find comments along the lines of “colleges only want a certain race these days”, and “you were the wrong race” to be offensive, unproductive, lacking in nuance, and targeting the wrong issues.
    On a significantly less important note, relating to this video's title, I also want to make it clear that I never in my life have considered myself a "star," and in high school and while applying to college, was honestly depressed at times to the point I sincerely believed I had very very little worth, both as a student and a person. I hope it is obvious that I do not refer to myself or think of myself as a "star," and that I just meant it, somewhat sarcastically, as a generic description of having hit some benchmarks typically associated with high academic achievement in high school.
    ~ Inspo ~
    wAmy - Why Stanford REJECTED me, the "perfect" student
    *( • Why Stanford REJECTED ... )
    ^ definitely go watch! full of good information
    ~ High School Stats ~
    I didn't go too much into my high school extracurriculars and leadership experiences but I talk about everything here:
    how I got a full tuition scholarship to Vanderbilt
    *( • how I got a full tuiti... )
    ~ music ~
    frumhere, kevatta - warm feeling
    *(thmatc.co/?l=6...)
    Mr. Chase - Heaven
    *(thmatc.co/?l=1...)

Комментарии • 333

  • @isaiahdoble4182
    @isaiahdoble4182 Год назад +713

    Stanford, and schools like it, deny more than 19 in 20 of their applicants. If you don't get into Stanford, and you are a perfectly qualified applicant (like Joy was), it is WAY more a reflection of the ridiculous level of selectivity of these schools than it is of your qualifications and "mistakes." The reason you were rejected, Joy, is quite simple.
    They have a 4% acceptance rate.

    • @Joshua-cs6gj
      @Joshua-cs6gj Год назад

      I think she got rejected off the basis that they more than likely knew she was going to apply to a billion top schools and odds was, they could potentially get rejected if they made an offer.
      Funny how schools can reject you if your stats are “too perfect”, especially if they have a feeling that they are a fallback school or second option.
      Lol.

    • @isaiahdoble4182
      @isaiahdoble4182 Год назад +29

      ​@@Joshua-cs6gj Interesting point, but I'd disagree. The strategy you are referring to is called "yield protection"- when schools deny applicants that they would typically accept because they believe the students will choose another college over them. This is usually done by schools that are well-respected, but not usually on the very top of a student's priority/ranking list. Tufts, University of Michigan, and Northeastern are frequently referenced examples. This strategy is often intended to increase the school's selectivity (if they know their accepted students will go to their school, they do not have to provide as many extra spots) and thus boost their rankings.
      Stanford, a school that often competes with Harvard, Yale, and the like for the most prestigious and selective school in the country (even the entire world), does not need to worry about that. The signficiant majority of students (80%, in fact) who get into Stanford end up attending. In all likelihood, Joy just didn't blow the Stanford admissions officers socks off like the 4% who got in somehow did. That's usually what it takes to get into a school like Stanford--- you've got to completely blow their socks off!

    • @qud3913
      @qud3913 Год назад +24

      Nope.
      It's just that she's Asian, not B or "native american"

    • @isaiahdoble4182
      @isaiahdoble4182 Год назад +38

      @@qud3913 That is a flawed explanation--- incomplete at best. Yes, universities consider race as a factor, since underrepresented minorities have historically been (and continue to be) disadvantaged within the United States' education system (that is a whole other discussion that, while very important, would cause us to stray from the conversation at hand).
      Consider this. Asian-Americans take up around 7% of the U.S. population, but consist of more than a quarter (~26%) of Stanford's current student body. Meanwhile, Black citizens take up around 14% of the U.S. population, but only consist of 7% of Stanford's student body. Native Americans consist of around 2% of the population, but make up less than .3% (not even one-third of a percent) of Stanford's student body. I'm sure you will have similar findings with peer instutions.
      Even if we overlooked all this, Stanford is an outlandishly selective instution. Gaining admission is a heroic feat, regardless of the race of the applicant. Affirmative action, in and of itself, does not come remotely close to guarantee admission for any applicant---especially a school like Stanford---no matter their qualifications.

    • @qud3913
      @qud3913 Год назад +1

      @@isaiahdoble4182
      I mean, you just explained with facts & statistics what I said was spot on for the most part.
      It's the simpler & more obvious reason. The reason written on the wall.

  • @cassidymiller8344
    @cassidymiller8344 11 месяцев назад +56

    Thank you for making a video like this! Sometimes it’s way more discouraging to only hear the success stories because it feels like you’re the only one who “failed” when you don’t make the cut. I feel like people forget that schools with really small acceptance rates admit people nearly arbitrarily and you can be a perfectly qualified student and still not be accepted. It takes a lot of strength and self-awareness to break through the mindset that a lot of high-achieving students (like myself) have and recognize where you could’ve improved. I appreciate this vid and also hope that you got into a school that you’re finding much more success and happiness at!

  • @loeng888
    @loeng888 Год назад +429

    Honestly,my son rejected from Stanford in 2018.He graduated from MIT 6 months ago in Mathematics and Computer Science (applied early action and 100 % scholarship) and now pursuing master degree in Computer Science.( 100% Scholarship from Gates Millennium Foundation).Good luck for future applicants. God Bless!

    • @TeddyBear-br2co
      @TeddyBear-br2co Год назад +23

      Congratulations to your son! Just goes to show it’s what you make of the school, not just what they make of you!

    • @loeng888
      @loeng888 Год назад +1

      Thanks! You are absolutely correct!

    • @loeng888
      @loeng888 Год назад +6

      My son also admitted to Harvard,Caltech and Princeton.

    • @Joshua-cs6gj
      @Joshua-cs6gj Год назад +25

      MIT > Stanford

    • @ninersnation3298
      @ninersnation3298 Год назад +7

      I think my child has a chance to get into Stanford. At age 11, he got a score of 760/800 SAT math 1440/1600 overall for Duke tip and 35/36 ACT math for Johns Hopkins CTY.
      9th grade, took calculus and Quantum physics, finished a few top 10 high school Olympiads, took 4 CS/Calculus colleges courses with all As,
      10th grade, top 8 finishes at the IPPF debate at NYU, finished 253 out of 6000 in the collegiate Cybersecurity competition, top 10 in team competition, took another 4 CS/math college courses with all As, AP calculus B exam with a score of 5, AP Physics exams both mechanical and electrical with 5s.
      11th grade, another 4 college courses CS 479 AI/pattern, upper college division classes, won the Kenyan Leadership trip to DC, IPPF , Cybersecurity in the spring, will take AP exams in CS, Statistics, and Economics.
      12th grade - TBD

  • @acartoonfan
    @acartoonfan 2 месяца назад +18

    Wow! Have just seen your stats video! You got a FULL TUITION to Vanderbilt!! I mean, I get Stanford is a really high ranked School and it may be sad to get rejected from a school like that, but Vanderbilt is another really high ranked school some super smart people that you might’ve heard of went there and to top it all off, you get to go to university for free! Congratulations, you deserve everything that you’ve earned!!

  • @matthewvilaysack
    @matthewvilaysack Год назад +31

    I like how realistic you are in this video! There really is no one thing that we can pinpoint in the admissions process as applicants, so it really does come down to luck.

    • @qud3913
      @qud3913 Год назад +1

      They needed to fill the quota for diverse students..
      They don't want more Asians.

  • @milesmccoo
    @milesmccoo 23 дня назад +6

    I was an MIT Alumni interviwer for a bunch of years. I talked to 52 applicants. I think your biggest strength is that you have a youtube channel with almost 20k subs. You had the discipline and passion to make that happen. Lots of people want to be youtubers but few make it happen.
    Getting test scores is pretty common. Being self driven in your own direction is much more interesting but you didn't mention it as a trait when listing your credentials.
    In short, be an interesting applicant. Scores are necessary but not sufficient.

  • @emmanuelvacakis4463
    @emmanuelvacakis4463 Месяц назад +5

    My SAT was 940. Verbal was 320!!! And I was accepted to Stanford. You have a much better chance if your major is music. I excelled in music performance.

  • @contraryword29
    @contraryword29 Год назад +36

    Keep your head up sister, everything happens for a reason and a real great student can shine everywhere. Like we learned in Ratatouille, not everyone can become a great artist. But a great artists can come from anywhere 🙏. Bless you 🙏 and so wish you the best luck wherever you go.

  • @Valence19
    @Valence19 Год назад +102

    Stanford thinks they don’t need Joy but it is Joy who doesn’t need Stanford 💪 You’re already one of the most competent people out there

    • @Joshua-cs6gj
      @Joshua-cs6gj Год назад +6

      Reality:
      Stanford would rather give another person an opportunity than someone who probably applied to 40 different schools in one application cycle.

    • @9aaaaaaaaaaaa
      @9aaaaaaaaaaaa Год назад +2

      if she doesn't need Stanford , why apply?

    • @Jack-tk1is
      @Jack-tk1is 2 месяца назад +1

      Cope 😂

    • @txt4r
      @txt4r 22 дня назад

      joy mistake was not being born black or hispanic

  • @danikhan5185
    @danikhan5185 Год назад +33

    To be honest, would've been better to see you getting accepted , you were most deserving.
    I mean your videos have helped me so much as a senior in their final year and your advice is so practical.
    Just wanted to say thank you for the videos you make , they're awesome and practical.

  • @chipcurry
    @chipcurry 3 дня назад

    Just your generosity and willingness to share your experience shows me that you would be an optimal part of the Stanford community.

  • @CMV314
    @CMV314 Год назад +67

    I'm a recruiter at a top Fortune 500 company. The reality: like top universities, we get thousands of highly qualified applicants for only ONE position. Top universities, like Fortune 500 companies, have to turn down many qualified applicants simply because they have no space for all of them. You're a very smart young lady. Keep your head up. You're going to go far in life.

    • @spacer6176
      @spacer6176 6 дней назад +2

      You are not a recruiter at anywhere relevant.

    • @txt4r
      @txt4r 6 дней назад

      they accept blacks

    • @spectre7006
      @spectre7006 13 часов назад

      @@txt4rand where do/did you go to school?

    • @txt4r
      @txt4r 11 часов назад

      @@spectre7006 i was pointing out Quota system and preference for Black / minorities
      ( my own school has nothing to do with that)

  • @junedea7225
    @junedea7225 Год назад +5

    Joy, if it's any consolation, your life journey is long so regardless of what school you go to, it'll be only a small portion of your life and in some ways not as important as you think. I went to University of Maryland but in the course of my career ended up working at the State Department with people all around me from ivy league schools. Good luck with your academic pursuits and enjoy the journey!

  • @eden1075
    @eden1075 Год назад +10

    you're incredibly self aware wow, but this is scaring me lol...

  • @djeffersonaaa
    @djeffersonaaa Год назад +10

    I really appreciate you taking responsibility.

  • @Allen-v1r
    @Allen-v1r 3 месяца назад +15

    We all know why Standord rejected Joy, but no one will say it. Sad…. Please bring back Merit based decisions!

    • @a.r.7885
      @a.r.7885 Месяц назад

      Still not satisfied? 💀

    • @cwagnello
      @cwagnello 26 дней назад +2

      Yeah, a 3.7% acceptance rate and the fact that she's no different academically than the thousands of other applicants.

    • @Drkennethkin
      @Drkennethkin 22 дня назад +4

      If you were Black or Latino, you would be accepted with a scholarship.

    • @mishaf19
      @mishaf19 11 дней назад

      They got rid of affirmative action WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT

  • @gackerman99
    @gackerman99 Год назад +6

    would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how you came to terms with the rejection in view of your going to Vandy. I got into a fine school but it was nowhere near my top choice and I've never really gotten over it. It undermines my academics even now, I think. I'll never get the validation I needed to get.

  • @scottjackson163
    @scottjackson163 4 месяца назад +31

    As a Stanford graduate, I’m embarrassed that they rejected you. You would have made a phenomenal Stanford student and alumnus.

    • @StanJones-ww8th
      @StanJones-ww8th 24 дня назад +2

      Congratulations on your success at getting into Stanford and graduating. You are certainly among the elite by all measures that
      you encountered and met.
      What amazes me is how well-prepared Joy seems to be by the measures Stanford employed and yet, she did not meet the bar
      at the cutoff. What this, of course, means, is that, if assessments were objectively applied for her freshman class, how truly amazing, gifted, and talented each and every student would have been who did get accepted, and attended ... all 100% of them
      better than Joy. I was fortunate to have been born, raised, and educated in SF Bay Area and know a number of Stanford and Berkeley science graduates in my lifetime, each of whom worked hard for their well-earned success.

  • @Mj00527z
    @Mj00527z Год назад +13

    Don't worry you deserve something too better.

  • @nabi5864
    @nabi5864 Год назад +19

    Sorry you got rejected...My sister (also Asian 🙂) got accepted to Stanford plus just as yourself , her dream school ... Her stats & numbers were similar ... We think it was actually due to a few huge factors hardly anyone ever mentions is the reason why she was accepted
    Sorry I didn't mention what they were on previous comment ...The factors that got her in were: Besides the obvious perquisites ...My parents hired a PHD Stanford Alumni(very expensive!!) to coach and mentor her once a week, she was accepted to Stanford's HS Summer program , kept a daily journal online, mastered a musical instrument(NOT Piano or Violin) , and founded her own charity organization in the area of her study and ran it and scaled it up successfully for 3 years straight during HS

    • @mamoonaraza7181
      @mamoonaraza7181 10 месяцев назад

      How did her parents find a Ph.D. Stanford Alumni, how did they contact him?

    • @Venti650
      @Venti650 2 месяца назад +1

      Could you tell me how she began her charity and the steps she went about to get it out there? I’m interested in starting one myself but I’m unsure where to begin. I’d love to hear back!

    • @Venti650
      @Venti650 2 месяца назад

      Could you tell me how she began her charity and the steps she went about to get it out there? I’m interested in starting one myself but I’m unsure where to begin. I’d love to hear back!

    • @chrispirilloisebooIa
      @chrispirilloisebooIa Месяц назад

      The lengths you need to go to get accepted to these schools while being asian is wild. If only she wasn't asian

  • @JulietMcIlwain
    @JulietMcIlwain Месяц назад

    Great advice, and I think that Stanford especially is looking for change makers and innovators with deep, demonstrable interest in a particular area. Those interests can't be cultivated overnight. They still reject many of those specialist types because they have to fill particular departments and not everyone can be an engineer.

  • @iWontTry
    @iWontTry Год назад +17

    make more vanderbilt content!!! I'm attending in the fall and I want to know more about the school :)

  • @edwardb7811
    @edwardb7811 3 дня назад

    A great education is available at most colleges. Even more important is the application of the student to take advantage of the college. Don't set your sights on just one college. Wherever you land will be just fine--so long as you work hard.

    • @JackChiu-se2nm
      @JackChiu-se2nm День назад

      you're correct on most colleges can provide a great education, but most colleges cannot provide the connections and career opportunities that an elite university can. Also, when an elite private university accept a student, they will provide you the financial assistance needed for you to succeed. A middle class student going to Columbia or MIT can graduate with less student loan debt than going to a state school.

  • @russell8592
    @russell8592 2 месяца назад

    An easy tip you can use in almost any situation is to just take a moment. Step away from what you're doing to take a breath and just look at the bigger picture, often times we become hyper-focused and lose sight of something else that is just as important. This is the same with what you said in the video, just because we may not get into a certain school doesn't mean all of life is over, we just need to look at the bigger picture.

  • @scottjackson163
    @scottjackson163 Год назад +2

    I applied to two graduate programs for Political Science: Brown and Stanford. I got both of them and graduated from Stanford. Occasionally you win the big prize despite poor planning.

  • @michaelvrbanac6923
    @michaelvrbanac6923 Год назад +15

    My daughter visited Stanford years ago and could not stand the vibe of campus. Loved UC Berkeley, UCLA, Washington, and other schools. Came down to UC Berkeley and Washington. She chose Washington.

    • @er7586
      @er7586 Год назад

      One of my friends goes to UCLA and my other friend goes to Stanford. My UCLA friend says the culture their is great and very friendly. My Stanford friend says it's extremely competitive and NOBODY helps each other.

    • @Fordance100
      @Fordance100 21 день назад +1

      UCLA has the best mathematician on earth.

  • @Cookie82772
    @Cookie82772 Месяц назад +3

    Hint: it was for something you had absolutely no control over

  • @vtrandal
    @vtrandal Год назад +78

    In reality you probably tried to hard to get into Stanford by overstating your achievements in every area possible. Your application was literally incredible and Stanford cannot afford to sort through such applications that demand so much more attention than the average application.

    • @maxgeorge1463
      @maxgeorge1463 Год назад +6

      you do realize that her application is an "average" application for Stanford, right?

    • @Abishhhhh
      @Abishhhhh 7 месяцев назад +12

      this is so confusing tbh. like what? theyre too lazy to read the ones that have more effort put in? That makes no logical sense at fcking all lmao

    • @SF-my4uq
      @SF-my4uq Месяц назад

      Too, not to.

  • @AngeliqueTolbert
    @AngeliqueTolbert 8 месяцев назад

    I am still 4-6 years to applying to college this really helped thank you so much

  • @WayneLynch69
    @WayneLynch69 Год назад +31

    C'MON! We ALL know EXACTLY why you were "rejected"...and so do you.
    I think you're an angel. My brother is a Professor of Medicine at Vanderbilt;
    that's why I'm so upset for you.

    • @Penguins459
      @Penguins459 Год назад +1

      ?

    • @liuuuuuuu
      @liuuuuuuu Год назад +2

      what

    • @r3db0ss19
      @r3db0ss19 Год назад

      Why’d she get rejected

    • @l.coo1er
      @l.coo1er Год назад +21

      I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING 💯💯💯🗣🗣🗣🗣

    • @tribe2003
      @tribe2003 Год назад +1

      Indeed. LOL at the people pretending they don't know EXACTLY what special brand of leftist racism caused this deserving candidate to be rejected. I'm a liberal Democrat but there really is only one explanation for this nonsense.

  • @Drganguli
    @Drganguli Месяц назад +11

    It is hard for Asian Americans to get into top universities as they are "overrepresented" in higher education

  • @marthaudeh7263
    @marthaudeh7263 8 месяцев назад

    Just know you an amazing person for sharing this with us

  • @Lokie-cd2hw
    @Lokie-cd2hw 2 месяца назад +10

    A lot of under qualified students get into Stanford for the sake of equity. They struggle to stay in and if they make it to graduation, they have very low GPA's. Most don't make it but being accepted helps Stanfords's numbers showing how woke they are.

    • @wearabo
      @wearabo Месяц назад

      Define "woke?" You silly conservatives say you believe in merit and yet you support one of the most meritless people in American history. Donald J (Jailbird) Trump.

    • @mishaf19
      @mishaf19 11 дней назад +3

      The average stanford GPA is a 3.96/4. Please, no students at these top schools, NONE are under qualified.

    • @Lokie-cd2hw
      @Lokie-cd2hw 11 дней назад

      @@mishaf19 If the average GPA is that high, then they have grade inflation. This is much like Harvard where almost everyone graduates with honors.

    • @spacer6176
      @spacer6176 6 дней назад +1

      This is stupid. You lack basic intelligence

  • @carterislive
    @carterislive 4 дня назад

    Last year in a classroom lecture video at Sanford Sam Altman told the students not to bother with school, just start working in your field, you will learn more.

  • @michaelderose397
    @michaelderose397 Месяц назад

    Seems to me that you’d be successful no matter what because of your drive and the constructive criticism that you give to yourself. I wish you were my parent or older sibling when I was 18.

  • @wolfmangoland7972
    @wolfmangoland7972 Год назад +127

    Stanford lost an amazing human being and an intelligent student. It is their loss. Stanford's director must fire their admission staff.

    • @Jack-tk1is
      @Jack-tk1is 2 месяца назад +4

      Stanford need cool & badass students (eg. They rank highest in Sports & Entrepreneurship).
      If you're a nerd, go to MIT or Harvard

    • @StanJones-ww8th
      @StanJones-ww8th 24 дня назад

      Joy not being accepted at Stanford despite her previous academic performance doesn't say anything negative about her, but says a whole lot about the superior achievement of all 100% of those who were accepted each of whom were over the bar..

    • @spacer6176
      @spacer6176 6 дней назад

      COPE LOL

    • @txt4r
      @txt4r 6 дней назад

      she could have gotten a tan and claimed she is black
      they would have given her full scholarship plus extra pocket money

  • @incyphe
    @incyphe Месяц назад

    This is a very thoughtful video and postmortem. You are incredibly mature. You will go far :-)

  • @SO-jp6gh
    @SO-jp6gh 28 дней назад

    You did not do anything wrong (regarding 3:41). I actually felt the opposite of what you felt -- that my application gave the impression that I'm too serious even though in reality people often say to me "You're a riot. I had no idea you had such a quick wit under that shy persona." Ironically and in contrast, my friend, who is normally straight and serious, wrote a humorous essay and got accepted. I often regret why I did not show my true humorous self and thought that was one big reason I got rejected, although some people did plant the seed in my head that it was mainly because I'm from an over-represented minority (the one everyone says is overrepresented) while my friend claimed to have 1/16th Native American blood even though he appears to be a straight Mayflower Pilgrim White Male.

  • @whitexflash
    @whitexflash Год назад +4

    Legacy status and grandfathered in is still a big issue imo from all the friends I know who had family get into Stanford. I wish you the best of luck ❤️ in your future choices.

  • @dougchinn2820
    @dougchinn2820 4 дня назад

    Regardless of what she did right or wrong, Stanford's admit rate is only 3.7%, among the lowest in the country. On campus housing is a constraining factor. Also, each application goes through so many readers who weed out the best of the best. Schools like Stanford and the Ivys are great schools to aspire to, but there are so many public schools that are just as good. Degrees only get you in the "door" for a job, what you do and where you go after is up to the person.

  • @Nordic_Sky
    @Nordic_Sky 2 месяца назад +7

    My daughter is at Stanford. Getting in is not guaranteed for anyone, no matter how good. You can be amongst the very best and just didn't get lucky that day. What is assured is that you will be successful no matter where you go to college, and you have a promising life ahead of you. WAY too much emphasis is put on a small number of elite colleges these days. Honestly, it is counterproductive and should stop.

  • @YourFavoriteCamper
    @YourFavoriteCamper Месяц назад

    3:12 this reminds me of the interview in hunger games when Katniss internally thinks that she only got a little bit of depth talking about her sister and the rest was her being extremely surface level

  • @tislaoman
    @tislaoman Месяц назад

    Been unsure on Major Selection, late submission of application, Art to be included, flaws in essays have out weighs your grades, GPA and SAT scores.
    Planning wasn't there and little reckless approach cause your rejection!

  • @jimli8465
    @jimli8465 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @milkcookiesandme
    @milkcookiesandme Год назад +1

    I feel this. I had a similar experience applying to schools like Berekely and UCLA even though I had a 3.8 GPA and weighted 4.3 GPA

    • @user-ld6is4ni3d
      @user-ld6is4ni3d 10 месяцев назад

      Did you get into either of them?

    • @milkcookiesandme
      @milkcookiesandme 10 месяцев назад

      @@user-ld6is4ni3d Nope! I went to CSULB though! Graduated from there

  • @Monstacheeks
    @Monstacheeks 29 дней назад

    Getting Rejected from your Dream School sucks! Sorry to hear that…

  • @nimus5491
    @nimus5491 Год назад

    Omg CONGRATULATIONS 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @jiminici3351
    @jiminici3351 Год назад +3

    I'm so curious what your mother's idea was for the short essay answer if you don't mind sharing :)

  • @wanyuhuang8802
    @wanyuhuang8802 Месяц назад +1

    You will never truly know why that happened, which honestly really doesn't matter.

  • @spookyman683
    @spookyman683 Год назад

    Good advice 👍

  • @Fordance100
    @Fordance100 21 день назад

    The selection process is not transparent. It's really depending on one or two people who read your application, which is subjective instead of objective. Also, one also has to fit into overall social representation. Honestly, anything can happen in this process.

  • @YokozunaNumber1
    @YokozunaNumber1 2 месяца назад +9

    My oldest daughter graduated from Stanford this year, and now she's in their School of Medicine. One of her sisters just started Duke. As someone who didn't even graduate high school due to bullying (Class of '99 would have been me), it is so wonderful to see my own children grow far beyond what I could have ever been.

  • @paulrivera5231
    @paulrivera5231 Год назад +6

    Joy 🤩 I could never reject you. You are the best. Also you can always go to Stanford or Harvard after Vanderbilt.

  • @donjohn924
    @donjohn924 24 дня назад

    REA only increases your chance slightly. The biggest reason I think why stanford turned down your application, is because you are only a good student. In other words, you are good at study, and maybe not so good at other things. In the eye of stanford AO, it's the other things that count, not study. Almost everybody who has the audacity to apply to stanford are terrific students. But stanford can only accept a few amongst them. So what else you do really matters. For example, my oldest kid is applying this year. She's not as good as a student as you(but quite close), but she's a nationally known athlete. Her academics are ok, maybe only at top 5% of her high school. But in addition to that, she's a star athlete who plays in Division I and has a national ranking. Very soon I'll find out how her application go. She's applying ED to an IVY(where her athlete friend is going) and EA to MIT

  • @user-ol7sl3qw2l
    @user-ol7sl3qw2l Год назад

    Here is me starting my application on the day it’s due

  • @whosenameisitanyway
    @whosenameisitanyway Год назад +4

    You didn’t share your financial situation. Schools are not blind to how much money your family could pay. In fact, some kids get admitted without even applying due to their family wealth.

    • @JackChiu-se2nm
      @JackChiu-se2nm День назад

      You know for a fact that wealthy students get admitted without applying? Applicants have preferential status if they are family members of alumni or big donors, but they still have to apply. These elite private schools provide A LOT of financial assistance to students in need. I know a few students that will graduate from Columbia and MIT paying less tuition than going to state universities. These top schools have so much money in endowments that paying full tuition for a couple of hundred students each year is nothing. They know that their brilliant students will make it big in the future and donate hundreds of millions of dollars back to the school. What I am saying is, if a student is what the university wants, money is not an issue.

    • @whosenameisitanyway
      @whosenameisitanyway День назад

      @@JackChiu-se2nm Yes, I know for a fact. They get offers from multiple schools before they even apply. It is a disgusting practice and should be illegal.

  • @shunfangin7645
    @shunfangin7645 Месяц назад +1

    Stanford rejected my son and he went on to Berkeley then U Penn law. When he graduated from U Penn law, he received 11 offers from top law firms. I think Stanford’s legacy system probably is not helping it to get some of the top talent.

    • @JackChiu-se2nm
      @JackChiu-se2nm День назад

      Your son got a law degree from an Ivy League school so definitely at the same level as Stanford. Congratulations on all the job offers, by the way. Unfortunately when kids go for school with

    • @shunfangin7645
      @shunfangin7645 День назад

      @ Good idea to apply to several top schools. He needs competition with the best students in school because that’s how the real world works. So glad to see your son is into violin and biking. All these activities will make him a much more well rounded person.

  • @edpell437
    @edpell437 Месяц назад +1

    Relax, chill, you are fine. Stanford gets a mountain of Asian race applicants. Stanford limits the fraction of student of Asian genetic background. Right or wrong that is just a fact of life. You have the drive and intellect you can be fine in life. Do not expect "the system" to serve you. Make your own way.

  • @fredrikbergquist5734
    @fredrikbergquist5734 5 дней назад

    I think that anyone going for CS the last five years are making a bad choice. Electronics and digital design is much better. I have a major in that and have a good job without the turbulence in many software companies right now. Avoid areas that are hyped and go for what your passion leads you. Inside engineering there are so many other fields and they all pay very well. An experienced radio designer get much more than a coder and isn’t out of job after ten years because some new programming language is the fashion of the day.

  • @markrcca5329
    @markrcca5329 16 дней назад

    when there are so many different activities and pursuits listed on the application, it seems that someone is trying to tick off as many checkboxes as possible. If I was a reviewer, I would wonder if an applicant has a genuine and natural passion for any of these activities, or engaged in each of them mostly because they thought colleges want to see a very long list.

  • @uktamruzikulov1
    @uktamruzikulov1 Год назад +2

    What is the Demand for applying to Master's degree in Stanford?

  • @guytakamatsu7326
    @guytakamatsu7326 Год назад

    Well if it makes you happier, I thought at least one Stanford grad student say don’t go to Stanford for your undergraduate degree. Instead go to a small liberal arts college. The problem with big-name schools is you don’t get the professor with the Teaching assistant.

  • @Rainy_Day12234
    @Rainy_Day12234 Месяц назад

    Texas A&M University has a world class engineering school.

  • @ezozabs1410
    @ezozabs1410 Год назад +1

    Hi!,can I Apply for an early action and a regular action at the same year?thanks in advance

  • @killa3x
    @killa3x Год назад +8

    I think we know why she was rejected. Change her race and she would have been an automatic admission.

    • @a.r.7885
      @a.r.7885 Месяц назад +1

      Nope-it’s not that simple. I know an underrepresented minority who had similar stats (actually more AP courses) and who was still rejected. Did they complain that Stanford is ’racist’ and favours other candidates due to their ‘privileged majority’ status? Lmao. Don’t expose your ignorance. It’s frankly embarrassing 😅

    • @chrispirilloisebooIa
      @chrispirilloisebooIa Месяц назад +1

      @@a.r.7885 and what minority would that be? What OP said is literally true.

    • @a.r.7885
      @a.r.7885 Месяц назад

      @@chrispirilloisebooIa That minority is: black (African), of recent immigrant status, with one parent born + raised in France and the other educated there. The child’s first language is not English. How much more underrepresented can a minority be? Btw, this person began taking university courses prior to entering high school and was studying differential and integral calculus by age 14. Reading Shakespeare and Racine by age 9. Depressed by age 12. Parents essentially raised them with the philosophy that if you don’t earn at least 98% on exam, then don’t both coming home (if you want to live). Being the single top student in the school was not even good enough. Believe it or not, such standards are rather universal where l’m from. Having toxic immigrant tiger parents who worship HYPSM, striving for excellence, and subsequently experiencing rejection does not belong to any race or culture.

  • @wongmeiyen
    @wongmeiyen Год назад

    I wonder if your electives and coursework reflected the competitiveness of an EECS major, don’t know if did some math competition AIME/USAMO, CS competitions. Just based on your initial stats in your video, it seems you might have had a better chance as a liberal arts major.

  • @coltonyee8004
    @coltonyee8004 Год назад +2

    My stats were pretty similar and I got denied too, but I transfered into georgia tech so idk 🤷‍♂️

    • @ninersnation3298
      @ninersnation3298 Год назад

      Feels like my son will be rejected at Stanford and MIT and end up at Carnegie Mellon or Georgia tech. He will finish 12 college Math/CS courses when he finishes 11th grade in 6 months. Currently taking CS 479 AI/pattern at university as an 11th grader. He is a calculus tutor in college and is a researcher assistant for a college CS PHD program.
      He finished 253 out of 6,000 competitors in collegiate cybersecurity competition. 10th grade he got all 5s on AP calculus, AP physics mechanic and electricity. Top 8 finishes at the IPPF debate at NYU
      He is 4.0 gpa, by the end of his high school, he will finish about 16 colleges with all As. He will be taking the SAT/ACT in the 2nd half of 2023.
      Do your stats similar or better than my child!?? I know there are a lot of kids who are gifted.

    • @lindatanuwijaya4660
      @lindatanuwijaya4660 Год назад +1

      My son was denied at Stanford. Went to Georgia Tech (for free). He will be graduating soon and is going to accept an offer from Stanford for his PhD (for free).

  • @Alan1234x
    @Alan1234x Месяц назад +1

    Stanford is a very underwhelming place when you visit.

  • @loc5706
    @loc5706 Месяц назад +1

    i'm sure cal would love to have you

  • @travionsutton6117
    @travionsutton6117 Год назад +1

    A star student is crazy

  • @markcruz3860
    @markcruz3860 Год назад +2

    It really is a crap shoot. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason why colleges reject students with off the chart stats, and accepts others with lower scores.

  • @chrispirilloisebooIa
    @chrispirilloisebooIa Месяц назад +1

    It isnt at all offensive or lacking nuance at all to say race is a huge factor for these ivy leagues. These universities literally have affirmative action policies in place, you must know about the huge supreme court decision against Harvard regarding race-based admission and how much it influences admissions. You can say its 'unproductive', but that doesn't change the fact it is happening.

  • @TonyGao-hv1kt
    @TonyGao-hv1kt 21 день назад

    I went to Local Community College thrn move up to Local State Univ minimum cost. I am employed by major corporation . I am happyNo need for IVY leauge.....

  • @Sam-fx2ig
    @Sam-fx2ig Год назад

    U are so cute)
    Thanks for the advises I definitely sure it will help me a lot

  • @iWontTry
    @iWontTry Год назад +1

    "burning pit of fiery shit" LMAO

  • @SF-my4uq
    @SF-my4uq Месяц назад +1

    Schools want diverse student backgrounds. My guess was a they already accepted a bunch who mirror yours. It's about grades--but ALSO about being unique and offering something DIFFERENT to the academic community. After all, so much of college is peer-to-peer learning.

  • @manadimanaanakkambingsaya2887
    @manadimanaanakkambingsaya2887 19 дней назад +2

    I think you were rejected because of DEI. They prioritize unqualified students because you didn't meet the DEI points.

  • @redbunnytail9528
    @redbunnytail9528 Год назад +5

    Probably a big shock to get negged by Stanford when you're stacked like Joy. I don't know if this is the way admissions works, but if you're going to apply as 'the perfect' student, every little miscalculation will factor in negatively, because you're claiming to be what Stanford wants, a perfect student, and so and so did the application better. I remember being very strong in humanities and non-existent in math and science, when I transferred to Harvard. I didn't like Dartmouth. And. It turned out I didn't like Harvard, either. But. I WAS different. That was probably what helped me. Didn't need jokes or an 'insight' to BE different. You know? I didn't like elite school faculty or students, from a very early age, when I was a cashier at a Dartmouth Med School cafeteria. So. I knew a few things about elite schools from reading the student newspaper, that helped me decide to avoid people socially in the upper middle class, like that the STD percentages at elite schools were very high. And. Situation was kinda bad, because I wanted a solid place to learn, but disliked elite school people. And yet. I did well traveling, meeting people, frequenting businesses and getting to know staff, and even doing recreational drugs in the inner city. If you're a Chinese girl and you want to show how quirky you are with a 4.0 and 1600 SATs, you're going to make a fool of yourself.

  • @Jose_Jimenez
    @Jose_Jimenez Месяц назад +2

    Our daughter had a perfect math SAT, and so much more. She became a Stanford reject because of her race while her Filipino classmate was accepted due to his Hispanic sounding name. Our daughter ended up going to Berkeley where all the Chinese kids go to.

  • @Yerbah
    @Yerbah Год назад

    Can you confirm what you did for the arts portfolio?

  • @jiangmath777phoenix
    @jiangmath777phoenix Год назад +1

    Hey Joy, how are you doing ? I am a stanford applicant majoring in AE. What is your major in Vanderbuilt university and which state are you from?
    I am from ny in class of 2023

  • @arghavanjaffari308
    @arghavanjaffari308 Год назад

    Is it good and necessary to upload portfolio?

  • @20891
    @20891 Месяц назад

    It’s numbers game , please it’s not your fault

  • @onetwotwenty9834
    @onetwotwenty9834 2 месяца назад

    Stanford uses calculators to do addition and subtraction of 1+1 and 2-1. Jeezes man even for me I have a hard time doing it but stanford you tuition cost that much to use calculators for simple math.

  • @MyToxicMasculinity
    @MyToxicMasculinity 21 день назад

    Wow, accountability is refreshing. I thought I was going to hear a load of excuses.

  • @christ2551
    @christ2551 4 месяца назад

    Let Ai process the admissions process from A to Z. This will completely remove human biases based on race, ethnicity, gender and status. Let's admit the most deserving student academically period. However it won't happen because it makes too much sense for these "woke" admission committees.

  • @ozaurelius4128
    @ozaurelius4128 Год назад

    Where are you going now?

  • @nxtchickx1856
    @nxtchickx1856 10 месяцев назад

    Does anyone know what the percentage of a 3.98 GPA would be?

  • @hellopaulcha
    @hellopaulcha 17 дней назад

    What school are you attending?

  • @theproblemsolver303
    @theproblemsolver303 Год назад

    I wonder if a 1600 SAT would have gotten you in...

    • @st6rnn
      @st6rnn 4 месяца назад

      Watch the video

  • @tamrabokal8744
    @tamrabokal8744 Год назад +1

    Sorry you didn't get into your first choice, but it's their loss, not yours.

  • @shuhrat1
    @shuhrat1 Год назад

    Are you graduated from high school?

  • @fwlawrence8670
    @fwlawrence8670 2 месяца назад

    So what college did you go to?

  • @fookbia8875
    @fookbia8875 4 месяца назад

    What was your class ranking?

  • @xz1891
    @xz1891 Год назад +1

    Not very "明星", all your measurements are LOWER than my son, BUT he still didn't get into S

  • @rothschildianum
    @rothschildianum Месяц назад +1

    I think there are many other kids who have the same qualifications like yours, yet they have only limited numbers seats allocated to Asian females. Other boys must have concentrated in applying EE. You should have applied as a lesbian liberal social justice activist. I think you will get in.... but may be not EE.

  • @toast5443
    @toast5443 Год назад +9

    I’m also a star student that got rejected by Stanford my teacher gave a me a star sticker for not talking during silent reading in 1st grade

  • @Imandream23
    @Imandream23 Год назад +3

    I wouldn't have done that to you. You're amazing ❤❤❤
    ~ Isaiah Kurtis Pilkington
    ☝️🇺🇲

  • @blahblahblah747
    @blahblahblah747 Год назад +3

    Isn't the only way to figure out the real answer is to look at the Stanford Admission process? Like how exactly they choose candidates. Without that, this video is just speculation.
    I doubt you'll be happy with the real answer though... the decision probably boiled down to a 2 minute conversation and vote by some random people. For the younger folks before say your last year in high school, I suggest deeply thinking about why exactly you want to go to University. Most people go simply because everyone else is or they don't have direction or it's like an insurance policy.

  • @HumphreyChan
    @HumphreyChan Месяц назад

    Graduate programs at Stanford are easier to join