I was amused when the question of 'what it means to be English' was put to Tombs. He hesitated, mused and considered before coming to a tentative conclusion. What had greatly amused me was that if you were to search for an archetypical Englishman then it has to be Tombs himself...measured, restrained, subtle humour, humble in his opinions, gentle in his criticism of others and, importantly, an internationalist. All in all...a good egg. Great interview, by the way.
I beg to differ. As an Anglican I believe in original sin, so would argue that if you look for dirt on someone you will find it, sooner or later. So even the seeming good eggs were/are flawed. #NoelCoward for example- great songs, deeply flawed individual. But clearly, England 🏴 were not the bad guys in WW2, and countries like North Korea are still far worse today.
Has to also have an anti-authoritarian streak, while also queuing and silently damning people who push in front but being too polite to say it. Not the open sexuality of France but our postcard humour and carry on movies which are sarcastic and ironic. A country where freedom was more important than anything, where slavery and oppression was fought constantly, if not successfully either in our country or in others. Also that technology, hard work, discipline and commerce would make the world better (it has or did in a lot of countries) and so impressed it on other countries 'sometimes a little by force'.
Robert Tombs is a national treasure. He won't like that. I remember former MP Alan Duncan (Son of a wing commander) said "Brexit was a working class tantrum" What a pompous little man he is. I had a Scottish mother and an Irish Great Grandfather,but feel very English and quite British. Great interview,Winston!
The Anglican sect was invented by the narcissistic Henry VIII. The title of 'Defender of the Faith' was gifted to him by the pope for his defence of the Catholic Faith not for the Anglican heresy. Anglicans walked away from the faith and the faithful in 1532 and became infideles. They have been so ever since.
Christianity needs to be reformed and militant again. The pope is an antipope, they've appeared before historically. And archbishop of Canterbury isn't Christian. In my country many have gone back to roots. Meeting in private houses, reading the Bible, applying it to modern politics, and forming community with like minded people.
The English need to wake up before it's to late and _make their country love them again_ - if that makes sense in this context. You still are the majority.
The Christians should start to uphold their values. Church of England has stopped defending but deviating from the biblical teachings.This country is becoming a motherless child.
In ‘Dominion’ Tom Holland argued convincingly that the very concept of the ‘secular’ is bequeathed to our culture by Christianity. So even the category that some take to argue we’re not a ‘Christian nation’ might actually posit that yes, we are.
They are on RUclips, for now, and not on the BBC...the best brains seem to be in commentary (or industry) rather than in politics. We need commentary (or industrialist) folk to transition to political leadership roles if we are to move out this mess.
@@golfbulldogand that won't happen until you pay politicians adequately AND provide a degree of protection from media scrutiny in to their private lives. We treat politicians like celebrities, instead of professional businessmen, but offer few of the benefits celebrities garner (adulation, money, freebies). Of course the current lot do not warrant such benefits.
@@sye601 Exactly. Pay, media and privacy. You hit the nail on the head. In 1831, the 1st Lord of the Treasury and the Chancellor of the Exchequer both had a salary of £5000, now the inflation adjusted equivalent would be over £400,000. That is getting closer to the mark. The issue of media scrutiny would require media to act in the interests of the nation and not their paymasters, often foreign.
@@golfbulldog yeah the media issue is a difficult one. It’s one of those things that needs to be adapted via trial and error as has happened with much of our legal systems. Doing nothing is not an option, we need to be prepared to implement something that doesn’t really work / is draconian and let it develop accordingly.
Robert is one of the world's great historians. His book "The English and their history" is terrific. I've read it twice and will soon revisit it again soon
@@chrisreeves9764 He may well be a great historian, but this inflationary talk of "one of the world's great historians" would only be substantiated if he had received accolades from anywhere but England and France, which seems not to be the case.
A very similar case of historical editing is going on here in Canada (Toronto specifically) to undermine western culture. The current mayor of Toronto Olivia Chow (a non-western refugee to Canada and widow of former far left NDP party) has decided that the financially broke city should spend $12 million tax dollars to change the name of a major street in Toronto (Dundas Street). Polls have shown to be overwhelmingly against this, yet the need to feed the anti-colonial narrative by politicians is too great. Toronto's "diversity" is why this is not more rigorously fought against, as the city is dominated by first generation, non-western immigrants. The idea is clearly stupid and unwarranted on its face, but historical facts are inconvenient and must be changed. To this end, the Mayor of Toronto stood at a podium speaking to the public and covered by multiple media outlets, and justified her decision by calling Henry Dundas a "slave owner". This is of course laughably false, yet Olivia got away with it. We all know Dundas was a devoted abolishonist and instrumental in the British almost single handedly eradicating global slavery. He also was responsible for commissioning another life long abolushionist John Graves Simcoe to be Upper Canada’s first lieutenant-governor, in September 1791. Upon arrival in Canada in the spring of 1792, one of Simcoe’s first acts was to propose the immediate abolition of slavery. The Legislative Assembly of Upper Canada, then dominated by slave owners and their friends, defeated his efforts. In 1793, Simcoe tried again, and this time persuaded the Assembly to accept a plan for gradual abolition. Upper Canada became the first British territory to adopt legislation to abolish slavery. Thus proving that Dundas's approach to abolishing slavery was the wise choice. Do they teach this important history of Ontario (Upper Canada) in Canadian schools? Of course not (a huge segment of Toronto’s population was never schooled in Canada anyway). They prefer to devout limited curriculum and budgets to have drag queen reading period and indoctrination of marxist ideology. Toronto (and all of Canada for that matter) is probably doomed at this point....all these cautionary tales had better put the rest of Western Civilization on high alert....or face the same fate.
I stopped attending an Episcopal church (American version of the Anglican church) several years ago when I read about the Anglican Church’s support of reparations in Douglas Murray’s book. I went on the churches own website and read the entire report they had published which essentially pushed critical race theory. Never went back
They also bought new korans and electric scooters for migrants in 2022. I'm sure Christians in poverty who have been here longer & are more deserving, imho.
You need to go back - speak your mind unequivocally - and refuse to leave… The Anglican Church belongs to real Britons - not these liars. Do not desert you Church, for the love of God! Show some backbone
@@matthewstokes1608 I agree with you and everyone who attended the church were lovely people and I doubt any of them were aware of that report, but the Archbishop of Canterbury isn’t going to change anything based on what a tiny Episcopal church in rural New England thinks. It made more sense to go where my views were shared, rather than try to make global change within the Anglican Church. And in New England every little rural town has at least one old church so there are plenty of options. I still love the Anglican Church and everything it used to do, but I can’t follow their new woke mindset
The 'Windrush' myth is a demonstrable rewriting of what actually happened; there was no 'call' to come to the UK, yet this is now believed by many to be fact. Surprised that Prof. Tombs allowed that to go unsaid.
I don’t think he said they were asked to come, just the fact they did. They got jobs that were open (not sure why the British couldn’t have done them but there were jobs there (maybe because we’d lost so many young men in the war) but we are open society as long as you integrate, which most of those did). The scandal was the trying to send them back, not that they came. Weve seen the videos of them coming because there was no work in Jamaica but it doesn’t mean they invaded or shouldn’t have come, unlike what’s happening now.
@@ginojaco the call for help was earlier wasn't it. With British men at war in Europe Britain needed workers in Britain. Jamaicans worked logging in Scotland to supply the army. You notice that many who came worked on the railways.
I’m not surprised he didn’t pick up on it. Anyone who questions the Windrush myth is immediately set upon by the usual crowd. He’d be forced to leave Cambridge at the very least.
The "Brexit" vote comprised many people voting for the status quo, on the grounds that things weren't so bad and any change might be worse. Also many who voted to "remain" we in the pay of the EU and wanted to continue getting their lucre. Those who voted to leave were the people who wanted those with power over them to be answerable to them.
Woke and stupid enough to remain so dogmatic in his own revisionism. Imo . Furthermore , I still find his appointment to the position of Cantaur , ratified , authorised and welcomed by the late Queen , to be utterly bewildering . And even now - so clearly endorsed by The King . Has The Monarchy lost sight of its essential remit ?
The latest academia seems to have adopted the view that if they can extinguish the brightest lights of our greatest people in history simply to make their own dull glow look bright.
It’s such an easy question. What is it to be English? To be English is to be a native of the nation of England and to have a deep ancestral connection to the history and culture of that place. Rishi Sunak is not an Englishman, he is a British citizen but he is not English. Just as an Englishman living in the USA may be an American citizen but he is not Cherokee or Iroquois because these are ethnicities like how English is an ethnicity.
I'm British, mostly Anglo-Welsh blood, but with Scots-Irish blood too; NOTHING has diminished my pride in our country and nothing the current idiocy put out by the woke-infected media / academia can or will. The last thing I want to see here is serious unrest, yet if the will of the majority continues to be ignored, and its very essence attacked, it is hard to see any other result.
I am convinced all of this is about and due to one thing: The Birth Control Pill. Anglo’s used to have (after WWII) tons of children. I am one of seven siblings. Everyone I grew up with had at the very least 4 children. Children used to be everywhere. We’d play in the street, build forts, go fishing, anything and told to everything was there to be explored, and we could go anywhere. There were no metal detectors or cellphones. We were told to get out of theat 9:am and don’t be late for dinner (at6:pm). I believe a lot of the Tortola place back in the 160’s and 70’s. We tore everything down that was beautiful. We did more damage to our perspective Nations in destruction to and of our heritage than Adolf Hitler ever did in the blitz. New Castle was simply gutted of its 19th century architecture. Birmingham is the worst. Soo believe we did this to ourselves. We stopped having children and nature abhors a vacuum.
It is the best thing for women who were sick to death of being pregnant & giving birth most of their adult lives. Women's lives needed that freedom. Plus large families are difficult.
It's better for women's health. Women were sick of constant pregnancies and childbirth for most of their adult lives. Children are expensive and time consuming and both parents need to work to provide for them. That's further pressure on women. If one parent is working it's stress on the one caring for multiple children.
How disgusting about the Whistler picture. If i remember correctly there issue taken was with a 2 inch sized teenie tiny section of this huge picture where a woman is leading a black person by a leash. The man gave his life to art, the picture was almost destroyed during a flood and the poor man was killed after a few days in Normandy. To "interrogate" with no right of reply is grotesque, but then thats the whole idea with all of this attack dog attitude of the social activist class.
Bad faith argument is intrinsic to Wokeism: that little scene clearly alludes to the ever-presence of evil. They have deliberately suppressed that truth.
Islam needs to go in west, the Quicker people realise this the better and back to the status quo... Also all of those from vastly different cultures who have no intention into intergrating into thay lifestyle..
Professor Tombs is absolutely correct that history should be taught primarily from the British perspective in Britain, as the culture of a country includes the history of that country. At the same time, individuals who are from immigrant families will have their own histories and that should be taught by their parents and relatives from that culture. There is also no reason why the education system couldn't include occasional different perspectives, such as saying while this was happening in Britain and Europe, pick a different culture and write something about what was happening contemporaneously in another part of the world.
One of the reasons for teaching British/English history to all, is to help people understand why they came to our country...and why they now have the traditions, liberties and culture that the natives crafted over many, many centuries.
33:06 Turning the other cheek is not the same as backing down or running away. Turning the other cheek actually requires one to hold one's ground if it is to have any significance. Turning the other cheek is not slinking away with your tail between your legs. We have forgotten what this phrase really means.
Turning the other cheek is tolerating a bit of pushyness & trying to understand the other side. But when civility & gentleness is seen as weakness, then clearly standing strong & speaking from ethical principles is necessary. The same basic rule as for bullies in the playground.... 2 chances & 3rd time stand your ground, speak up loud & clear. ( The Church leadership seems to have got lost themselves, don't they know story of Jesus getting angry at the synagogue? Btw Im not Christian )
For the last 2 years I have traced my ancestry back to english , Scottish,pict and Anglo Saxon royalty, at 60, most of my life is done and I no longer feel this my home , I am the end of the line and have no descendants to have to endure a future here thank god 😢
If someone hates British history, why bother to come here? People who come to this country should adopt everything about british. We are heading backward.
They come because they think they'll be better here than their own countries but are never asked to recognise the people who made it better, instead their own cultural bias is reinforced by a dominant narrative of how wicked the English were to their ancestors. Or they simply subscribe to a imperial religion.
William Gladstone is a hero in Bulgaria. The central street in my city of Plovdiv is proudly named after him. Had he been a PM in 1878, the Islamic Khaliphat would be completely crushed, and there would be a Christian rule in Constantinople. Unfortunately, in 1878 the PM was a man called d' Israeli... I'm studying WOKE to present it in Bulgaria where they don't know what it is. Subscribed
Under UK law, compensation should put the offended party in the position it would have been in had the offence not committed. The descendants of the slaves now find themselves living in the likes of the UK and the USA rather than living in places like Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea, or the Congo... the places they'd be in their ancestors had not been transported across the Atlantic. So each descendant of a slave should have their average wealth assessed, while the residents of Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea and the Congo should have their average wealth assessed, and the descendants of the slaves pay the difference to the state in order to put them in the position they'd have been in if the offence of transporting the enslaved Africans across the Atlantic had never happened.
Excellent interview. Marshall allowed Tombs plenty of space to say what he had to say. Tombs' evaluation of current affairs is thought provoking. And, to an extent, hopeful.
Mr Tombs knows precious little about true English God-fearing Christians. He conflates the perversion of the controllers of our Church with the real deal - meaning those of us who actually believe the Bible was and is the living light - the word of God as strongly now as our better ancestors did.
I would have thought the uk culture is: do no harm, cause no injury and an assurance of a fair go. This used to be what Australian culture was based on. Govt encroachment into, and taxes/regulations on, every nook and cranny of our lives, coupled with a growing authoritarianism is smothering the Australian way of life. And yes, centralised govt is the vehicle that ideologues are driving to achieve this change from the top down. It most certainly is not a grassroots movement. Edit: small govt with limited powers.
Robert Tombs is refreshingly sensible and well spoken. He makes a cogent argument for liberalism. Within the posters below there are a large number of people who do not get what he is actually saying or arguing for. There is a mutual cause against liberalism by both those, as Robert puts it, within and without. The forces of insular intolerance.
As a church attender it is now about climate change, refugees, diversity, Ukraine and Gaza. Most Sundays the sermons are on these subjects with the prayers asking for us to be more tolerant. Not a lot about Jesus. I refuse to be pushed out. Also as a woman I will say that the church has become to feminine. There are so few men. We rarely have a male vicar. We need to also hear mens interpretation from the pulpit. Although the ones who visit like to drone on about diversity. Less softness and more strength in our Christian beliefs. It is so bad I often think of the biblical warnings about false prophets.
Think biggest bad mistake by UK government was to "devolve" back into Wales, Scotland, England, and Northern Ireland. Now you don't have a British identity. You have a divided and divisive England between London and the rest, a Scotland that has fundamentally different values (with staying in Europe), and then Brexit and Johnson was the ultimate screw up. And that's after all the immigration of immigrants that have had very little common shared cultural, religious values with Brits.
Unfortunately, the first minister we are forced to tolerate is incredibly racist and brought in hate laws to stop free speech and prevent criticism on islam. It's disgraceful.
Academia has played its part in what is unfolding in front of our eyes , and that is the distruction of our culture . Acadmia has since the 1950's slowly but surely poisoned the minds of future leaders , bezmenov explains how this has been done and you only have to step back and take in the state of things to see that it is so .
We wouldnt have all this inner turmoil in the country if we hadn't begun importing it in the 1950's. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you pff Enoch Powell was bang on the money.
The Soldier BY RUPERT BROOKE If I should die, think only this of me: That there’s some corner of a foreign field That is for ever England. There shall be In that rich earth a richer dust concealed; A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware, Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam; A body of England’s, breathing English air, Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home. And think, this heart, all evil shed away, A pulse in the eternal mind, no less Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given; Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day; And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness, In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.
I haven't finished listening yet but i just want to say that i LOVE history and i owe so much to my history teacher ,Miss Gadd, she told us the story from 1066 chronologically through 4 years, i got to the Georgians , leaving at 15 as we could then . It has been such a valuable part of my live and given me the basis to study further. It truly saddens me that children miss out on that today. So Professor Tomb, i am afraid you are wrong , it was taught systematically by Miss Gadd in the 1960s
Who cut down the Iconic tree at Hadrian's wall? Where was Robin of Loxley returning from in that scene filmed at Hadrian's wall? Who would bare a grudge about the crusades? Who are infamous for destroying religious and cultural landmarks ?
It does need to be taught in school. I went to school in the 90s and I was taught about the N@zis but not about Communism. I fear it would be even worse now, do they even teach anything about WWI or WWII?
Sooooo now that we understand that Africans sold their brothers……is the reparations being demanded from Africa? Because it started there. AND should Northern (yanks) America and the Brit’s demand reparations for freeing them? Fee for service type of thing.?
In having English grandparents on both sides of my family, and my father in the airforce during the war , we cosidered ourselves English, although the family lives in South Africa. Harold Wilson put an end to all that. We have 11 national languages, but Koi, the language of the original language of this area is, strangely, excluded . The official language of tuition is, however, English , but as I am fluent in Zulu, the Swazis call me " the Zulu!". This is an interesting situation to say the least. I thank Mr Tomes for participating in a most interesting and incisive discussion, and it is unfortunate that he does not live amongst us in this inclusively interesting part of the world. Great stuff though!
Winston does a great job of interviewing this important historian and didn't go to University, as far as I am aware. I think also of the quality of Matt Walsh's critiques. Creators like those two and many more show that University is not synonymous with being educated enough to make compelling thoughtful content like this.
Speaking of "progressive nihilism", post-modernism tenets: 1) an elevation of text and language as the fundamental phenomena of existence, (social media and print as the battleground) 2) the application of literary analysis to all “phenomena”, (weapons are qualitative opinions, new/old words, censorship, cancel culture, name calling). Negates quantitative (such as votes ) 3) a questioning of reality and representation (there is no truth, it's all fake news), 4) a critique of “metanarratives”(all history, literature, religion is wrong/biased) 5) an argument against method and evaluation (fundamentally anti- Enlightenment) 6) a focus upon power relations and hegemony, (regularly rebranded as “structuralism”, “post structuralism) 7) a general critique of Western institutions and knowledge. A critique of liberalism. (Kuznar 2008:78).
Very interesting discussion. I wasn't familiar with Robert Tombs before seeing this video but I just ordered a copy of his book The English And Their History.
I hunt big game as a hobby , but due to the sparsity of elephant on the White Cliffs of Dover - the Goons have seen a few - I'm forced to stay in Africa. I love England in particular , and if I weren't 86 years old , would emmigrate there at the drop of a hat, in a rubber dingy via Calai and Dover.
Great interview, very interesting. Couple of areas which need to be challenged but far more to take away. I think those areas to challenge come from people trying to define English to fit them and their heritage while ignoring that while they insert themselves in they in effect dilute the concept of being English for those who's heritage is wholly English.
The idea of 'wholly English' is a good one because others (including me) are less English but may be more English than any other ethnicity or cultural belonging. To the extent we are other ethnicities as well, we are less English.
I dont think the challenge comes from Russia, China or Iran or combination of those for the simple reason if that had been so they would have followed a completely different system and which would have already brought them in conflict with west. In fact i strongly feel they act as perfect counterfoil to gaps and lacunas in the western system which is normal for any system created by human beings and thats a healthy challenge i think should motivate the west to plug in those gaps and go forward towards the next challenge. The real challenge for the west and the world and for any order are disruptive cultures who are more bent on destruction of any kind of order without having any plan or any alternative solution to provide and thats usually the nature of destructive forces throughout history. P.S: And that potential dusruption is usually effective when there exists internal disruption reasons and I feel there are some reasons for such generating from within western societies particularly in the americas and the possible effect of that inside europe.
It's time for the rank and file Christians to clean house and remove these false teachers in the cofe clergy!!! The book of Jude is your mandate for God to do this.
Just wonderful Winston. Really look forward to hearing your conversations. You are the new grown-up, intellectual Michael Parkinson (no disrespect to Parkie who I really enjoyed back in the day).
We need to stop peeping through our net curtains and gossoping about the state of things......its time to stand up people......our dads and Grandads must be spinning in their graves.....REFORM U.K.🇬🇧
Let’s stop this utter nonsense now. No more. Let’s be proud of our nation and our history. We are a great nation because our history is built on Christianity.
When people have not had to fight for what they have, they dont identify or understand what they have. People forget very easily and daily focus is on day to day matters. Such people are easily played. When our leaders are also so uninformed as to how to read the zeitgeist and are self serving to party or ideology and fearful....the structural cohesion evaporates rapidly. The current situation of post modern speculation should in time reinvigorate self examination more broafly again, as the attack is the first pre position of enquiry, which requires a reply. This is underway. This creates a renewal of refreshed engagement with values of the past that renews them contextually via the implicit being forced to become explicit in engagement. This is how progress occurs, and how advancement is a perpetual process of past remeeting present in battle. Transcending and including all the way.
This is sad to watch from Australia. The UK is suffocated by the self-loathing of colonial guilt. Buck up. Britain did great things and nothing worse than what were the global norms of the time. Compared to a lot of the non-Western world it conducted itself much more morally.
Winston's definition of English is shocking. I am not English according to him. I don't drink tea, I am disinterested in sport. I will eat cake put before me but I never purchase it. Yet my family on both sides may well have been here before the Romans and I spent 23 years in HM forces. If you have been here enough generations to have lost track of any other nation, you're English. Perhaps you could have a French name but say when we beat the French at Cressey or Agincourt or Waterloo wholeheartedly (even if it is possible one of your ancestors was on the French side) then you are English. If you can not say this, you are not English. If you have any member of your immediate family who can not say this, then you should not be an MP.
So many points to pick up in this deeply stimulating conversation. I feel rather more pessimistic about our nation’s future though.Time for a Sunday afternoon pint to celebrate the prospect of a fat cheque from the CofE!
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”
― George Orwell, 1984
The ministry of truth is hard at work
"Never give a sucker an even break." -Phineas Taylor Barnum
I thought Rage Against The Machine wrote that.
To my embarrassment.
The Islamisation of our country gathers pace at an alarming rate
I was amused when the question of 'what it means to be English' was put to Tombs. He hesitated, mused and considered before coming to a tentative conclusion. What had greatly amused me was that if you were to search for an archetypical Englishman then it has to be Tombs himself...measured, restrained, subtle humour, humble in his opinions, gentle in his criticism of others and, importantly, an internationalist. All in all...a good egg. Great interview, by the way.
I beg to differ. As an Anglican I believe in original sin, so would argue that if you look for dirt on someone you will find it, sooner or later. So even the seeming good eggs were/are flawed. #NoelCoward for example- great songs, deeply flawed individual. But clearly, England 🏴 were not the bad guys in WW2, and countries like North Korea are still far worse today.
Great comment. Gentlemanly is the quintessential English characteristic. Sadly, it is disappearing.
@@tatianehodson4538 I’m not sure we ever were all that gentlemanly, most of us. For every #Darcy there’s a #BillSykes.
@@aclark903 Quite right. But the truth is that it's perception not facts that count in this day and age.
Has to also have an anti-authoritarian streak, while also queuing and silently damning people who push in front but being too polite to say it. Not the open sexuality of France but our postcard humour and carry on movies which are sarcastic and ironic. A country where freedom was more important than anything, where slavery and oppression was fought constantly, if not successfully either in our country or in others. Also that technology, hard work, discipline and commerce would make the world better (it has or did in a lot of countries) and so impressed it on other countries 'sometimes a little by force'.
Robert Tombs is a national treasure.
He won't like that.
I remember former MP Alan Duncan (Son of a wing commander) said "Brexit was a working class tantrum"
What a pompous little man he is.
I had a Scottish mother and an Irish Great Grandfather,but feel very English and quite British.
Great interview,Winston!
we are absolutely being insulted every day and sickened by this grotesque attacks of racism - there are more important things to worry about
The Anglican Church has become a sellout, a dismal failure to defend the Faith and Faithful, who have thus walked away from it in disdain
The Anglican sect was invented by the narcissistic Henry VIII. The title of 'Defender of the Faith' was gifted to him by the pope for his defence of the Catholic Faith not for the Anglican heresy. Anglicans walked away from the faith and the faithful in 1532 and became infideles. They have been so ever since.
Very much diverting from the biblical teachings.
Christianity needs to be reformed and militant again. The pope is an antipope, they've appeared before historically. And archbishop of Canterbury isn't Christian. In my country many have gone back to roots. Meeting in private houses, reading the Bible, applying it to modern politics, and forming community with like minded people.
I tried to comment. Religious censorship of history and how to restore religion.
@@jobirbatti6713I've tried to reply 😕
I love my country of England, but my country no longer loves me.
Wow very profound
We need to start forming English groups, but be clever about it.
The English need to wake up before it's to late and _make their country love them again_ - if that makes sense in this context. You still are the majority.
You mean the establishment elite no longer love you.
The four nations need to unite against this insanity.
The Christians should start to uphold their values. Church of England has stopped defending but deviating from the biblical teachings.This country is becoming a motherless child.
One word, Welby
Exactly
Zionism
In ‘Dominion’ Tom Holland argued convincingly that the very concept of the ‘secular’ is bequeathed to our culture by Christianity. So even the category that some take to argue we’re not a ‘Christian nation’ might actually posit that yes, we are.
Required reading.
Britain paid compensation for the slave trade by being the first country to end it. Slavery still takes place in Africa today.
We still give billions away to the developing world & we raise billions for them through charity. That's too much reality for some people, however.
The Arabs and Africans engaged in slave trading 100 times prior to Europeans.
China and Noth Korea
Billions of pounds of stolen Scottish money@@Camille_Anderson
One epic Eric paid compensation to slave traders more like
Where are our leaders ? Why aren’t they protecting British History ?
They are on RUclips, for now, and not on the BBC...the best brains seem to be in commentary (or industry) rather than in politics. We need commentary (or industrialist) folk to transition to political leadership roles if we are to move out this mess.
@@golfbulldogand that won't happen until you pay politicians adequately AND provide a degree of protection from media scrutiny in to their private lives. We treat politicians like celebrities, instead of professional businessmen, but offer few of the benefits celebrities garner (adulation, money, freebies). Of course the current lot do not warrant such benefits.
@@sye601 Exactly. Pay, media and privacy. You hit the nail on the head. In 1831, the 1st Lord of the Treasury and the Chancellor of the Exchequer both had a salary of £5000, now the inflation adjusted equivalent would be over £400,000. That is getting closer to the mark.
The issue of media scrutiny would require media to act in the interests of the nation and not their paymasters, often foreign.
@@golfbulldog yeah the media issue is a difficult one. It’s one of those things that needs to be adapted via trial and error as has happened with much of our legal systems. Doing nothing is not an option, we need to be prepared to implement something that doesn’t really work / is draconian and let it develop accordingly.
Deliqutment in paradise you mean bullshit British history
Robert is one of the world's great historians. His book "The English and their history" is terrific. I've read it twice and will soon revisit it again soon
Chris reeves the English and their bullshit history
Really? I bet he is not known much outside England and maybe France.
@@alicemilne1444 That doesn't mean he's not a great historian. It could be the rest of the world are ignorant
@@chrisreeves9764 He may well be a great historian, but this inflationary talk of "one of the world's great historians" would only be substantiated if he had received accolades from anywhere but England and France, which seems not to be the case.
@@alicemilne1444 That's my opinion but I forgot you're not allowed to have those these days. Let me guess you're either a lefty or a celt.
What a superb conversation! I’m watching live and reminded of lectures and seminars during my undergraduate years in Oxford.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Stop dancing around the "islamist" versus "muslim" differences. Antisemitism is in-built into the Quran and the hadiths.
A very similar case of historical editing is going on here in Canada (Toronto specifically) to undermine western culture.
The current mayor of Toronto Olivia Chow (a non-western refugee to Canada and widow of former far left NDP party) has decided that the financially broke city should spend $12 million tax dollars to change the name of a major street in Toronto (Dundas Street). Polls have shown to be overwhelmingly against this, yet the need to feed the anti-colonial narrative by politicians is too great. Toronto's "diversity" is why this is not more rigorously fought against, as the city is dominated by first generation, non-western immigrants.
The idea is clearly stupid and unwarranted on its face, but historical facts are inconvenient and must be changed.
To this end, the Mayor of Toronto stood at a podium speaking to the public and covered by multiple media outlets, and justified her decision by calling Henry Dundas a "slave owner".
This is of course laughably false, yet Olivia got away with it. We all know Dundas was a devoted abolishonist and instrumental in the British almost single handedly eradicating global slavery.
He also was responsible for commissioning another life long abolushionist John Graves Simcoe to be Upper Canada’s first lieutenant-governor, in September 1791.
Upon arrival in Canada in the spring of 1792, one of Simcoe’s first acts was to propose the immediate abolition of slavery. The Legislative Assembly of Upper Canada, then dominated by slave owners and their friends, defeated his efforts. In 1793, Simcoe tried again, and this time persuaded the Assembly to accept a plan for gradual abolition. Upper Canada became the first British territory to adopt legislation to abolish slavery.
Thus proving that Dundas's approach to abolishing slavery was the wise choice.
Do they teach this important history of Ontario (Upper Canada) in Canadian schools? Of course not (a huge segment of Toronto’s population was never schooled in Canada anyway). They prefer to devout limited curriculum and budgets to have drag queen reading period and indoctrination of marxist ideology.
Toronto (and all of Canada for that matter) is probably doomed at this point....all these cautionary tales had better put the rest of Western Civilization on high alert....or face the same fate.
Finally a voice of sanity make this man prime minister.
I stopped attending an Episcopal church (American version of the Anglican church) several years ago when I read about the Anglican Church’s support of reparations in Douglas Murray’s book. I went on the churches own website and read the entire report they had published which essentially pushed critical race theory. Never went back
They also bought new korans and electric scooters for migrants in 2022. I'm sure Christians in poverty who have been here longer & are more deserving, imho.
You need to go back - speak your mind unequivocally - and refuse to leave… The Anglican Church belongs to real Britons - not these liars. Do not desert you Church, for the love of God!
Show some backbone
Why not speak up and change your church?
The worst part is there are homeless people in the UK and that £100 million could have built houses.
@@matthewstokes1608 I agree with you and everyone who attended the church were lovely people and I doubt any of them were aware of that report, but the Archbishop of Canterbury isn’t going to change anything based on what a tiny Episcopal church in rural New England thinks. It made more sense to go where my views were shared, rather than try to make global change within the Anglican Church. And in New England every little rural town has at least one old church so there are plenty of options. I still love the Anglican Church and everything it used to do, but I can’t follow their new woke mindset
The 'Windrush' myth is a demonstrable rewriting of what actually happened; there was no 'call' to come to the UK, yet this is now believed by many to be fact. Surprised that Prof. Tombs allowed that to go unsaid.
I don’t think he said they were asked to come, just the fact they did. They got jobs that were open (not sure why the British couldn’t have done them but there were jobs there (maybe because we’d lost so many young men in the war) but we are open society as long as you integrate, which most of those did). The scandal was the trying to send them back, not that they came. Weve seen the videos of them coming because there was no work in Jamaica but it doesn’t mean they invaded or shouldn’t have come, unlike what’s happening now.
@@msbecks7004 hmm... you're leaving an awful lot out.
@@ginojaco the call for help was earlier wasn't it. With British men at war in Europe Britain needed workers in Britain. Jamaicans worked logging in Scotland to supply the army. You notice that many who came worked on the railways.
I’m not surprised he didn’t pick up on it. Anyone who questions the Windrush myth is immediately set upon by the usual crowd. He’d be forced to leave Cambridge at the very least.
The "Brexit" vote comprised many people voting for the status quo, on the grounds that things weren't so bad and any change might be worse. Also many who voted to "remain" we in the pay of the EU and wanted to continue getting their lucre.
Those who voted to leave were the people who wanted those with power over them to be answerable to them.
The COE has been self-immolating for centuries....sad.
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Justin Welby is woke and a blind guide, he's been given much and will be judged accordingly. Disgrace to his position of leadership.
Woke and stupid enough to remain so dogmatic in his own revisionism. Imo . Furthermore , I still find his appointment to the position of Cantaur , ratified , authorised and welcomed by the late Queen , to be utterly bewildering . And even now - so clearly endorsed by The King . Has The Monarchy lost sight of its essential remit ?
@@alexandradane3672 The monarchy deserves the measure of loyalty from the English that it gives the English.
Did not ask any Parish if they wanted to donate £100 million to Africa.
Winston's version of "what is England" is literally "bread and circuses" or "Tea and football". To be English is far more than that!
The poor boy is middle class. Please make an exception.
Australians also like tea, football, and beer, but our culture is broader than that.
Winston is a moron who’s views don’t reflect reality.
I agree. If you have to ask what is English culture. You’re either not English or a spiteful mutant
The latest academia seems to have adopted the view that if they can extinguish the brightest lights of our greatest people in history simply to make their own dull glow look bright.
Beautifully put!
The Professor has nailed it!
It’s such an easy question. What is it to be English? To be English is to be a native of the nation of England and to have a deep ancestral connection to the history and culture of that place. Rishi Sunak is not an Englishman, he is a British citizen but he is not English. Just as an Englishman living in the USA may be an American citizen but he is not Cherokee or Iroquois because these are ethnicities like how English is an ethnicity.
I'm British, mostly Anglo-Welsh blood, but with Scots-Irish blood too; NOTHING has diminished my pride in our country and nothing the current idiocy put out by the woke-infected media / academia can or will. The last thing I want to see here is serious unrest, yet if the will of the majority continues to be ignored, and its very essence attacked, it is hard to see any other result.
An organised minority will defeat a disorganised majority.
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I am convinced all of this is about and due to one thing: The Birth Control Pill. Anglo’s used to have (after WWII) tons of children. I am one of seven siblings. Everyone I grew up with had at the very least 4 children. Children used to be everywhere. We’d play in the street, build forts, go fishing, anything and told to everything was there to be explored, and we could go anywhere. There were no metal detectors or cellphones. We were told to get out of theat 9:am and don’t be late for dinner (at6:pm).
I believe a lot of the Tortola place back in the 160’s and 70’s. We tore everything down that was beautiful. We did more damage to our perspective Nations in destruction to and of our heritage than Adolf Hitler ever did in the blitz. New Castle was simply gutted of its 19th century architecture. Birmingham is the worst. Soo believe we did this to ourselves. We stopped having children and nature abhors a vacuum.
Spot on. Add in no fault divorce and legalisation of abortion. And there you go. It’s devastating 😢
It is the best thing for women who were sick to death of being pregnant & giving birth most of their adult lives. Women's lives needed that freedom. Plus large families are difficult.
It's better for women's health. Women were sick of constant pregnancies and childbirth for most of their adult lives. Children are expensive and time consuming and both parents need to work to provide for them. That's further pressure on women. If one parent is working it's stress on the one caring for multiple children.
How disgusting about the Whistler picture. If i remember correctly there issue taken was with a 2 inch sized teenie tiny section of this huge picture where a woman is leading a black person by a leash.
The man gave his life to art, the picture was almost destroyed during a flood and the poor man was killed after a few days in Normandy.
To "interrogate" with no right of reply is grotesque, but then thats the whole idea with all of this attack dog attitude of the social activist class.
Bad faith argument is intrinsic to Wokeism: that little scene clearly alludes to the ever-presence of evil.
They have deliberately suppressed that truth.
Islam is not going to let anyone fix the "problems" in the Gaza.
Islam needs to go in west, the Quicker people realise this the better and back to the status quo... Also all of those from vastly different cultures who have no intention into intergrating into thay lifestyle..
Professor Tombs is absolutely correct that history should be taught primarily from the British perspective in Britain, as the culture of a country includes the history of that country.
At the same time, individuals who are from immigrant families will have their own histories and that should be taught by their parents and relatives from that culture. There is also no reason why the education system couldn't include occasional different perspectives, such as saying while this was happening in Britain and Europe, pick a different culture and write something about what was happening contemporaneously in another part of the world.
The Church of England has become the Church of Engladesh!
One of the reasons for teaching British/English history to all, is to help people understand why they came to our country...and why they now have the traditions, liberties and culture that the natives crafted over many, many centuries.
33:06 Turning the other cheek is not the same as backing down or running away. Turning the other cheek actually requires one to hold one's ground if it is to have any significance. Turning the other cheek is not slinking away with your tail between your legs. We have forgotten what this phrase really means.
Turning the other cheek is tolerating a bit of pushyness & trying to understand the other side.
But when civility & gentleness is seen as weakness, then clearly standing strong & speaking from ethical principles is necessary. The same basic rule as for bullies in the playground.... 2 chances & 3rd time stand your ground, speak up loud & clear.
( The Church leadership seems to have got lost themselves, don't they know story of Jesus getting angry at the synagogue? Btw Im not Christian )
For the last 2 years I have traced my ancestry back to english , Scottish,pict and Anglo Saxon royalty, at 60, most of my life is done and I no longer feel this my home , I am the end of the line and have no descendants to have to endure a future here thank god 😢
You’re 60, you might have another 40 years. Don’t give up 😊
Unfortunately I have 3 - God help them!
@samgold3216 so because you don’t have kids you should die? Get some friends!
If someone hates British history, why bother to come here? People who come to this country should adopt everything about british.
We are heading backward.
To trample and diminish it.
They come because they think they'll be better here than their own countries but are never asked to recognise the people who made it better, instead their own cultural bias is reinforced by a dominant narrative of how wicked the English were to their ancestors. Or they simply subscribe to a imperial religion.
Money.
Does not make sense. Would you also say that Britishers who do not adopt everything British should be deported or put in jail?
@@johnlove2954 no one mentioned deportation or jail. Read before writing.
Cake on Sundays? Tea? If you feel shivers listening to certain passages of Elgar, Holst, Vaughn Williams...you're British.
William Gladstone is a hero in Bulgaria. The central street in my city of Plovdiv is proudly named after him. Had he been a PM in 1878, the Islamic Khaliphat would be completely crushed, and there would be a Christian rule in Constantinople.
Unfortunately, in 1878 the PM was a man called d' Israeli...
I'm studying WOKE to present it in Bulgaria where they don't know what it is.
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Great interview, it was extremely informative, I really enjoyed it. Thank you both for your time, expertise and knowledge.
Absolutely English,Scottish,Welsh. N/Irish.Not British that prefix is for foriegners.who are granted permission to live here.
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I would extend to the Whyte's from Australia, NZ and Canada.
Nope. They're not stealing that from me.
I'm British AND English.
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An informed, intelligent conversation. Who woulda thunk it? 👍
Rishi Sunak had a green card, he doesn’t feel this as his home
Under UK law, compensation should put the offended party in the position it would have been in had the offence not committed.
The descendants of the slaves now find themselves living in the likes of the UK and the USA rather than living in places like Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea, or the Congo... the places they'd be in their ancestors had not been transported across the Atlantic.
So each descendant of a slave should have their average wealth assessed, while the residents of Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea and the Congo should have their average wealth assessed, and the descendants of the slaves pay the difference to the state in order to put them in the position they'd have been in if the offence of transporting the enslaved Africans across the Atlantic had never happened.
Excellent interview. Marshall allowed Tombs plenty of space to say what he had to say. Tombs' evaluation of current affairs is thought provoking. And, to an extent, hopeful.
We must become wise enough to stop anyone who tries to use divisionary tactics to divide people.
IM PROUD WESTERNER AND COLONIALIST ❤. WE WERENT PERFECT BUT WE WERE THE BEST
And I'm happy to live in colony, however our British culture has now been actively replaced 😔
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Mr Tombs knows precious little about true English God-fearing Christians. He conflates the perversion of the controllers of our Church with the real deal - meaning those of us who actually believe the Bible was and is the living light - the word of God as strongly now as our better ancestors did.
I would have thought the uk culture is: do no harm, cause no injury and an assurance of a fair go. This used to be what Australian culture was based on. Govt encroachment into, and taxes/regulations on, every nook and cranny of our lives, coupled with a growing authoritarianism is smothering the Australian way of life. And yes, centralised govt is the vehicle that ideologues are driving to achieve this change from the top down. It most certainly is not a grassroots movement.
Edit: small govt with limited powers.
Great interview, he speaks with such clarity
Robert Tombs is refreshingly sensible and well spoken. He makes a cogent argument for liberalism.
Within the posters below there are a large number of people who do not get what he is actually saying or arguing for. There is a mutual cause against liberalism by both those, as Robert puts it, within and without. The forces of insular intolerance.
I really appreciate your content. So good to now know COE never Participate in the slave trade. keep up the good work
I learned a lot with this interview
The CofE is weak these days. They used to be great evangelists around the world. Now, it's about coffee and cupcakes.
As a church attender it is now about climate change, refugees, diversity, Ukraine and Gaza. Most Sundays the sermons are on these subjects with the prayers asking for us to be more tolerant. Not a lot about Jesus. I refuse to be pushed out. Also as a woman I will say that the church has become to feminine. There are so few men. We rarely have a male vicar. We need to also hear mens interpretation from the pulpit. Although the ones who visit like to drone on about diversity. Less softness and more strength in our Christian beliefs. It is so bad I often think of the biblical warnings about false prophets.
Think biggest bad mistake by UK government was to "devolve" back into Wales, Scotland, England, and Northern Ireland. Now you don't have a British identity. You have a divided and divisive England between London and the rest, a Scotland that has fundamentally different values (with staying in Europe), and then Brexit and Johnson was the ultimate screw up. And that's after all the immigration of immigrants that have had very little common shared cultural, religious values with Brits.
Unfortunately, the first minister we are forced to tolerate is incredibly racist and brought in hate laws to stop free speech and prevent criticism on islam. It's disgraceful.
T paine Britain is not a country muppet
@@mmcc5846yes it is muppet its a island, the 3 thats in it are nations muppet..
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Academia has played its part in what is unfolding in front of our eyes , and that is the distruction of our culture . Acadmia has since the 1950's slowly but surely poisoned the minds of future leaders , bezmenov explains how this has been done and you only have to step back and take in the state of things to see that it is so .
We wouldnt have all this inner turmoil in the country if we hadn't begun importing it in the 1950's.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you pff
Enoch Powell was bang on the money.
The Soldier
BY RUPERT BROOKE
If I should die, think only this of me:
That there’s some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam;
A body of England’s, breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.
And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.
😢 so beautiful
The more at home we feel here, the more content we are with travel abroad. We always say we've 'come back home'!
You can remake history if you own the media and have no opposition
Black Mafia is still mafia.
I haven't finished listening yet but i just want to say that i LOVE history and i owe so much to my history teacher ,Miss Gadd, she told us the story from 1066 chronologically through 4 years, i got to the Georgians , leaving at 15 as we could then . It has been such a valuable part of my live and given me the basis to study further. It truly saddens me that children miss out on that today.
So Professor Tomb, i am afraid you are wrong , it was taught systematically by Miss Gadd in the 1960s
The Church believes it is acting as a sacrificial lamb for the sins of the many .....
Who cut down the Iconic tree at Hadrian's wall? Where was Robin of Loxley returning from in that scene filmed at Hadrian's wall? Who would bare a grudge about the crusades? Who are infamous for destroying religious and cultural landmarks ?
It does need to be taught in school. I went to school in the 90s and I was taught about the N@zis but not about Communism. I fear it would be even worse now, do they even teach anything about WWI or WWII?
For the ordinary man on the street democracy means absolutely nothing human greed amongst politicians has seen to that. Blair is a prime example.
Thank you for this fantastic and refreshing discussion. I'll have to listen to it again to take everything in.
What a great interview, really fascinating and well balanced!
Fantastic interview. I’ll be buying the book. Thank you Winston.
Sooooo now that we understand that Africans sold their brothers……is the reparations being demanded from Africa? Because it started there. AND should Northern (yanks) America and the Brit’s demand reparations for freeing them? Fee for service type of thing.?
Great points...
The Irish too, suffered enslavement.
Africans have to actually stop the practice of slavery first. They still practice it.
In having English grandparents on both sides of my family, and my father in the airforce during the war , we cosidered ourselves English, although the family lives in South Africa. Harold Wilson put an end to all that. We have 11 national languages, but Koi, the language of the original language of this area is, strangely, excluded . The official language of tuition is, however, English , but as I am fluent in Zulu, the Swazis call me " the Zulu!". This is an interesting situation to say the least. I thank Mr Tomes for participating in a most interesting and incisive discussion, and it is unfortunate that he does not live amongst us in this inclusively interesting part of the world. Great stuff though!
I am truly proud that England is America's mother country. What makes America great is what we learn from the mother country
Winston does a great job of interviewing this important historian and didn't go to University, as far as I am aware. I think also of the quality of Matt Walsh's critiques. Creators like those two and many more show that University is not synonymous with being educated enough to make compelling thoughtful content like this.
Speaking of "progressive nihilism", post-modernism tenets:
1) an elevation of text and language as the fundamental phenomena of existence, (social media and print as the battleground)
2) the application of literary analysis to all “phenomena”, (weapons are qualitative opinions, new/old words, censorship, cancel culture, name calling). Negates quantitative (such as votes )
3) a questioning of reality and representation (there is no truth, it's all fake news),
4) a critique of “metanarratives”(all history, literature, religion is wrong/biased)
5) an argument against method and evaluation (fundamentally anti- Enlightenment)
6) a focus upon power relations and hegemony, (regularly rebranded as “structuralism”, “post structuralism)
7) a general critique of Western institutions and knowledge. A critique of liberalism. (Kuznar 2008:78).
What a decent chap Robert Tombs is. Why hasn’t he been cancelled yet?
Stand fast, England.
I am curious at how recent migrants from Hong Kong view the colonial narrative.
Very interesting discussion.
I wasn't familiar with Robert Tombs before seeing this video but I just ordered a copy of his book The English And Their History.
Great conversation! Thank you
Well done, Winston!
I hunt big game as a hobby , but due to the sparsity of elephant on the White Cliffs of Dover - the Goons have seen a few - I'm forced to stay in Africa. I love England in particular , and if I weren't 86 years old , would emmigrate there at the drop of a hat, in a rubber dingy via Calai and Dover.
Brilliant interview!
Great interview, very interesting. Couple of areas which need to be challenged but far more to take away. I think those areas to challenge come from people trying to define English to fit them and their heritage while ignoring that while they insert themselves in they in effect dilute the concept of being English for those who's heritage is wholly English.
The idea of 'wholly English' is a good one because others (including me) are less English but may be more English than any other ethnicity or cultural belonging. To the extent we are other ethnicities as well, we are less English.
I dont think the challenge comes from Russia, China or Iran or combination of those for the simple reason if that had been so they would have followed a completely different system and which would have already brought them in conflict with west.
In fact i strongly feel they act as perfect counterfoil to gaps and lacunas in the western system which is normal for any system created by human beings and thats a healthy challenge i think should motivate the west to plug in those gaps and go forward towards the next challenge.
The real challenge for the west and the world and for any order are disruptive cultures who are more bent on destruction of any kind of order without having any plan or any alternative solution to provide and thats usually the nature of destructive forces throughout history.
P.S: And that potential dusruption is usually effective when there exists internal disruption reasons and I feel there are some reasons for such generating from within western societies particularly in the americas and the possible effect of that inside europe.
Superb discussion.
Enjoyable discussion.
It's time for the rank and file Christians to clean house and remove these false teachers in the cofe clergy!!!
The book of Jude is your mandate for God to do this.
When the Springboks won the rugby world cup; suddenly everyone in my country became South African .
I am a British Passport holder. My ancestry is Canadian & Irish.
Great interview Winston.
This is one of a million reasons why I became a catholic
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Just wonderful Winston. Really look forward to hearing your conversations. You are the new grown-up, intellectual Michael Parkinson (no disrespect to Parkie who I really enjoyed back in the day).
We need to stop peeping through our net curtains and gossoping about the state of things......its time to stand up people......our dads and Grandads must be spinning in their graves.....REFORM U.K.🇬🇧
Let’s stop this utter nonsense now. No more. Let’s be proud of our nation and our history. We are a great nation because our history is built on Christianity.
When people have not had to fight for what they have, they dont identify or understand what they have. People forget very easily and daily focus is on day to day matters. Such people are easily played. When our leaders are also so uninformed as to how to read the zeitgeist and are self serving to party or ideology and fearful....the structural cohesion evaporates rapidly.
The current situation of post modern speculation should in time reinvigorate self examination more broafly again, as the attack is the first pre position of enquiry, which requires a reply. This is underway. This creates a renewal of refreshed engagement with values of the past that renews them contextually via the implicit being forced to become explicit in engagement. This is how progress occurs, and how advancement is a perpetual process of past remeeting present in battle. Transcending and including all the way.
This is sad to watch from Australia. The UK is suffocated by the self-loathing of colonial guilt. Buck up. Britain did great things and nothing worse than what were the global norms of the time. Compared to a lot of the non-Western world it conducted itself much more morally.
Hindu Indonesia was not Islamic until the 1527 conquest. Then, Hindu Java became islamic Jakarta. Hindu society, culture & history were rewritten.
Winston's definition of English is shocking. I am not English according to him. I don't drink tea, I am disinterested in sport. I will eat cake put before me but I never purchase it. Yet my family on both sides may well have been here before the Romans and I spent 23 years in HM forces. If you have been here enough generations to have lost track of any other nation, you're English. Perhaps you could have a French name but say when we beat the French at Cressey or Agincourt or Waterloo wholeheartedly (even if it is possible one of your ancestors was on the French side) then you are English. If you can not say this, you are not English. If you have any member of your immediate family who can not say this, then you should not be an MP.
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So many points to pick up in this deeply stimulating conversation. I feel rather more pessimistic about our nation’s future though.Time for a Sunday afternoon pint to celebrate the prospect of a fat cheque from the CofE!
When did John Huston give up directing and become an oxford don.