Rules should be simplified and made very clear whereby ALL head to head contact should be red carded, but may need to add review to ascertain intent and potential harm.
Definitely not red no head contact it is pathetic she couldn’t wait to pull the card , just hard impact that’s all but it’s to late she walks away free again after ruining the player and the game
How in the fuck is this a 4-match ban and Sam Cane doesn't even get a yellow? That's my issue with these high tackle laws. The severity of punishment can be so high but the inconsistency is staggering
most ridiculous red I have seen. A yellow was harsh. Now he gets a 4 game suspension. I get head contact but really that was not what hurt the player. The idiots making these decisions have not played rugby or if they did at no real level.They will wreck careers.
Thats what they do its so good that the TMO got that ,just last week colby pushed an IRELAND PLAYER HE PUCHED A IERLAND PLAYER WITH HIS ARM AND THERE ARE MORE THINGS THEY DO IF THE REF IS NOT WATCHING GOOD FOR SA.
Contact with the ground knocked him out, red was bc of injury and the team making the tackle. Switch the two players and it’s not even a yellow… tackling a player without the ball missed as well
The agenda of the english refs, TMO and WRU administration is questionable and it is stuffing up the game. Disparity between Andre’s tackle and O Farrel tackle on Andre is an excellent example
I am just putting it out there, not all officials are unbiased. If you watch games there are a lot of not even 50/50 calls going totally the wrong way. I often watch games where I have no preferred team, just because I love rugby. It is very obvious that from schools through to club, regional and then international level, that some officials make calls with organs other than there brains.
Just ask Sam Cain. Tmo is tough. Tackle too high. Looks worse than it is. André did dip. Small opposition, perhaps Portugal not condotioned to play against is. Its TMO. Thats it. Justified
I'm a big fan of Esterhuizen, but he went in too high. Clear head to head. The Portuguese player was out cold before he hit the ground. It was reckless and dangerous. His technique was all wrong. Red card for sure. No amount of wishful thinking from my side can change that fact.
How was that tackle wrong, it was under the shoulder's and both his arms around him, compare Esterheizen tackels where both arms is used and the tackle is under the shoulder to that prick Farrel that uses his shoulder with clearly no attempt in a tackle(using arms)
Clear red card. Hard to feel sympathy for the South African player. He had every opportunity to tackle low and somehow he went high. The player in possession certainly didn't dip at the last moment. No mitigation whatsoever. Red card was the correct call.
It does not look as if there was any head contact. Perhaps someone can talk to the players and find out. But it looks like the people who place these placements on RUclips are just in it to stir and make a quick buck....Perhaps WR can change the rules and start playing with a round ball. Then we can change the name of the game to netball. Rugby has and will always be a hard game. If you do not want to get injured go swim....and be careful you don't dive to deep and hit your head on the bottom of the pool.
Hardly the same Sam Cane tackled Jees Kriel face-on his head hit Kriel under the chin Andre tackled Portugal-Player around the back Plz explain how the incidents are the same since Ur saying they're the same incident??
The problem is not necessary the ref. I was not her call and she didn't have a bad game. The TMO stopped the game and he decided on the Red Card when he used the Bunker Review. This has all been started by Rugby's new stance on "head contact". As normal, there's no common sense in the decission made and they are simply acting by the letter of the law. I believe Red Cards should only be issued when a player's actions can clearly be seen as deliberate, malicious or reckless. This tackle was none of those, it was simply a "hard tackle" and sadly the Portugal player came off 2nd best.
For the guys that said....clearly no head contact...it's like a cheating wife claiming...it just happened...be real guys... don't be like a certain rugby certain that only complains when he lost a game....No 12 needs 8 weeks suspension and serious training....be REAL....!!!!
The ref should stick to netball. That was a perfectly legal tackle. If that was a Springbok being tackled like that it would have been regarded as a rugby incident. I've had enough of this bull sR! %.
such a backward comment. the fact that it was upgraded to red by the bunker justifies the yellow. why are you not saying the officials in the bunker should go to other sports?
Saying she should stick to netball is bit hash But I don’t disagree with what you saying If it was the boks it would be a non issue Just like RG reversed penalty for hand bags I feel like it justice for what he did to Craig a few weeks earlier as there was no warning or taking about the previous hand bags he had if four wolves But yes the hatred has to stop for the boks it’s clear in every test they play in
Totally agree. Watched it from different angels in slow motion and there were no head-contact. But that's the norm in modern rugby . I'm not a Bok-fan, but that ref,and TMO were absolutely wrong.
Ag hou net op met huil julle het altyd n problem ek is moet daarvoor word Groot Al die springbok supporters sy het dit goed hanteer
TMO needs red card
Rules should be simplified and made very clear whereby ALL head to head contact should be red carded, but may need to add review to ascertain intent and potential harm.
Definitely not red no head contact it is pathetic she couldn’t wait to pull the card , just hard impact that’s all but it’s to late she walks away free again after ruining the player and the game
She didn't give the red card you clown the TMO did.
Nonsense. It was a TMO decision
How in the fuck is this a 4-match ban and Sam Cane doesn't even get a yellow? That's my issue with these high tackle laws. The severity of punishment can be so high but the inconsistency is staggering
most ridiculous red I have seen. A yellow was harsh. Now he gets a 4 game suspension. I get head contact but really that was not what hurt the player. The idiots making these decisions have not played rugby or if they did at no real level.They will wreck careers.
Off cause, the manner how the tackle was executed. Reviewed Sam Can's red carded. Bunkers playing a pivotal role...
Nothing wrong; not high, shoulder or late tackle.
And now banned for 4 games!? Proof my point and veiw of officials.
Thats what they do its so good that the TMO got that ,just last week colby pushed an IRELAND PLAYER HE PUCHED A IERLAND PLAYER WITH HIS ARM AND THERE ARE MORE THINGS THEY DO IF THE REF IS NOT WATCHING GOOD FOR SA.
Like most South Africa players, he is dangerous all the time. It was directed contact on the head. Typical South Africa tactic play the injured party
I thought that Ireland were the green and gold
Ref was 100% correct
Contact with the ground knocked him out, red was bc of injury and the team making the tackle. Switch the two players and it’s not even a yellow… tackling a player without the ball missed as well
Why isn't Andre grabbing his head there was no contact at all.
The agenda of the english refs, TMO and WRU administration is questionable and it is stuffing up the game. Disparity between Andre’s tackle and O Farrel tackle on Andre is an excellent example
That's a good tackle maybe a yellow not red but let's not forget that South African rugby team is being targeted 🤷
Hollie best Ref around takes no shit from anyone
This is Bismark du Plessis/Dan Carter all over again.
If you want to play a soft sport go play soccer
No this is outrageous. The ref should be censured. This was never intended to hurt.
I am just putting it out there, not all officials are unbiased. If you watch games there are a lot of not even 50/50 calls going totally the wrong way. I often watch games where I have no preferred team, just because I love rugby. It is very obvious that from schools through to club, regional and then international level, that some officials make calls with organs other than there brains.
That redcard was right, he is abusif and way out aggresive ,and like to chat back, that shows the reffs he needs a redcard
Just ask Sam Cain. Tmo is tough. Tackle too high. Looks worse than it is. André did dip. Small opposition, perhaps Portugal not condotioned to play against is. Its TMO. Thats it. Justified
All black fan here, and there is no head contact. This is a joke of a decision
Its called red but clearly no head to head contact ... biased officials.
If it was not on the head why are the Portugal player still in hospital for a head injury do you think he got it from a low tackle
I don't know about that, the player looks like he is out before he even gets to the ground, meaning there was definitely head on head
I'm a big fan of Esterhuizen, but he went in too high. Clear head to head. The Portuguese player was out cold before he hit the ground. It was reckless and dangerous. His technique was all wrong. Red card for sure. No amount of wishful thinking from my side can change that fact.
How was that tackle wrong, it was under the shoulder's and both his arms around him, compare Esterheizen tackels where both arms is used and the tackle is under the shoulder to that prick Farrel that uses his shoulder with clearly no attempt in a tackle(using arms)
Same as ABs captain in WCup final
Ur talking crazy right now plz explain to me how it's the same??
Shocking decision... worse case scenario, yellow
Clear red card. Hard to feel sympathy for the South African player. He had every opportunity to tackle low and somehow he went high. The player in possession certainly didn't dip at the last moment. No mitigation whatsoever. Red card was the correct call.
It's only red because it's green and gold
Stop complaining one point WC Boks !
It does not look as if there was any head contact. Perhaps someone can talk to the players and find out. But it looks like the people who place these placements on RUclips are just in it to stir and make a quick buck....Perhaps WR can change the rules and start playing with a round ball. Then we can change the name of the game to netball. Rugby has and will always be a hard game. If you do not want to get injured go swim....and be careful you don't dive to deep and hit your head on the bottom of the pool.
Well sam cane got a red card for the same incident so i guess its fair
this is no place for rationality bud
No clear head to head, looks more like he hit his head on the ground
Hardly the same Sam Cane tackled Jees Kriel face-on his head hit Kriel under the chin Andre tackled Portugal-Player around the back Plz explain how the incidents are the same since Ur saying they're the same incident??
The problem is not necessary the ref. I was not her call and she didn't have a bad game. The TMO stopped the game and he decided on the Red Card when he used the Bunker Review. This has all been started by Rugby's new stance on "head contact". As normal, there's no common sense in the decission made and they are simply acting by the letter of the law. I believe Red Cards should only be issued when a player's actions can clearly be seen as deliberate, malicious or reckless. This tackle was none of those, it was simply a "hard tackle" and sadly the Portugal player came off 2nd best.
For the guys that said....clearly no head contact...it's like a cheating wife claiming...it just happened...be real guys... don't be like a certain rugby certain that only complains when he lost a game....No 12 needs 8 weeks suspension and serious training....be REAL....!!!!
Stop crying Bok fans 😂😂😂
Blind supporters.
The ref should stick to netball. That was a perfectly legal tackle. If that was a Springbok being tackled like that it would have been regarded as a rugby incident. I've had enough of this bull sR! %.
It wasn't the ref, it was TMO
such a backward comment. the fact that it was upgraded to red by the bunker justifies the yellow. why are you not saying the officials in the bunker should go to other sports?
Saying she should stick to netball is bit hash
But I don’t disagree with what you saying
If it was the boks it would be a non issue
Just like RG reversed penalty for hand bags
I feel like it justice for what he did to Craig a few weeks earlier as there was no warning or taking about the previous hand bags he had if four wolves
But yes the hatred has to stop for the boks it’s clear in every test they play in
My bra is jy op tik? André het barely gebuk
Totally agree. Watched it from different angels in slow motion and there were no head-contact. But that's the norm in modern rugby . I'm not a Bok-fan, but that ref,and TMO were absolutely wrong.
He must be ban for a year not his first red card the swine
Learn to tackle , good job ref ,
yet another saffa caught doping, what a shock!
World rugby should change to yellow.