Why Iryo is Spain's NEW BEST TRAIN / First Class Review from Madrid to Málaga
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Hello and welcome back to Spain where we're going to be checking out a new operator on a recently launched route!
Today we will be taking Iryo, the newest open-access operator on the Iberian peninsular, and one that Renfe should be REALLY worried about. This was filmed on the second day of operations on the Madrid to Málaga route, and I travelled in their highest class, Infinita Bistro... so I hope you enjoy the video!
Date of Filming: 2/4/23
Camera: GoPro Hero 10 Black
Operator: Iryo
Departure: Madrid, Puerta de Atocha, Spain
Arrival: Málaga Mária Zambrano, Spain
Cost: First Class - €44 (£39, $48)
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In November (more or less), you will be able to ride in the new Talgo AVRIL with 5 seats per row in economy class. The route Madrid Barcelona at the beginning
@@jlbuenomeandro 😬😬😬😬😬
@@NonstopEurotrip is It good or bad 😀?. Don't you like 5 seats per row?
@@NonstopEurotripbuild in italy from Ansaldo hitachi, Florence. IRYO is italian ,of the trenitalia FRECCIAROSSA company
@@jlbuenomeandroIryo is italian, TRENITALIA Company FRECCIAROSSA 1000
Took this train from Madrid to Seville and Cordoba last fall. Smooth ride. Clean. Comfortable . Great experience.
Great to hear you enjoy it 😄
Madrid (and its surroundings) are sometimes underrated comparring to other regions of Spain, and even Europe!
Agreed!
Madrid es uno de los centros económicos más desarrollados y pujantes de toda Europa y, hoy por hoy, el motor económico de España, mal que les pese a algunos
One of my favourite European cities. Whenever I go to Spain I always on spending a few days in Madrid to visit the museums, to eat wonderful and varied food offerings and to wander the bustling streets. I would take Madrid over Barcelona any day of the week.
@@harkmi3 same 🙂
@@MrAkamareet Political rallies, in the background to the (extreme) right. Thank you.
Madrid is a wonderful city! I find Madrid so much more relaxing than other cities in Spain. There is a vibe in that city that is very welcoming and calming.
I once took a high-speed AVE train from Madrid to Valladolid but I had to go to Chamartin instead of Atocha.☮️
That's strange!
This is very normal since the high-speed trains that leave from Madrid to the North, leave from Chamartin, as well as those that go to the south, south-east that leave from Atocha, now many trains leave from Chamartin to cities like Alicante because atocha is in an extension work, since it was saturated
@@marcx_flight502Chamartín is also in expansion at the moment
Great video as always! There's actually an Iryo service centre where you can buy tickets on the side of the tropical garden (the room with the lights on below construction that can be seen on the right at 3:40 ) There are also service centres at other stations (easier to find than the Atocha one) 😄😄
Thanks for the info! 😆
Makes British trains look SICK! Adore traveling by train in Spain. Superb. The other fast lines equally great. Until I saw this, which I will definitely try soon, my best experience was Barcelona to Madrid. Same service and speed.
Thank you Patricia 🙂
Cool one! A couple of remarks
- This line is kinda special. I don't really know how iryo has managed to run trains on this route, in fact, as the line doesn't use ERTMS, but an old niche spanish traffic control system called LZB. This is because the line is the oldest dedicated high-speed line in spain. This also means that max speed is 250km/h, not 300 (although in the neigborhood of Madrid tracks could have been improved, I'm not totally sure) so I don't understand why the train display said 270 (update: I actually checked and vmax is 300km in a tiny tiny section near los yébenes, and vmax in the rest of the track is about 270)
- About the 15min stops, I don't think renfe gets more priority. In the last year or so, traffic in atocha has increased and right now ADIF has declared the infrastructure to be over capacity, which could be the reason for the delays. In fact, some levante services are being moved to chamartin station to ease atocha a bit
Also, as you are in spain. The new pajares base tunnel, which will connect Leon and Asturias in under an hour, and 18+ years in the making, is to open within a year. And the old pajares ramp railway is scheduled to close when that happens. It is a most scenic journey which people have compared to the gottard pass, but it is going to close due to high maintenance costs (an unthinkably poor decision if you ask me). This route is also served by one of the most traditional and trustworthy trains that have ever run in spain, renfe series 440, which are also to be swapped by new sets. Maybe you wold be interested in doing this route, as it will be impossible to do in a relatively short time.
I'm pretty sure the LZB system is actually German. It stands for LinienZugBeeinflussung (Linear Train Influencing). It's still in use on significant parts of the German high-speed network too, so equipment for it is probably quite easily available for installation in trains.
@@wasmic5z Is that so? I believe the LZB in madrid-andalucia line is a modification of the ASFA system, but I may very well be wrong. It should explain how did iryo get their hands in the equipment, certainly
@@MocomaminecraftYTOficial Madrid-Córdoba-Sevilla LZB. Córdoba-Málaga LZB and ERTMS.
@@MocomaminecraftYTOficial I've looked it up and it is indeed the German developed system.
Yeah 270 til Córdoba, and then 300 south to Málaga
In relation to the heads that you saw before entering Atocha, those are called "Día" y "Noche" (Day and Night) and were made to represent vigil (during the day) and sleepness (during the night), representing an alegory referring to the passing of time commemorating in some way the events occured in 11M in the same station, as well as in others.
Thanks for the information... Still pretty creepy though! 😬
Comfort , Efficient , Convenient & Systematic .
Absolutely!
Much of Renfe's advance pricing for the summer season has come out way higher than normal, making Iryo look dirt-cheap in comparison-I wonder what Renfe's thinking is on that.
Iryo aren't even meant to be low cost, but they're excellent value 👌🏻
Well, _Iryo_ is a game changer in the sense that it will offer _'more or less'_ the same than they have in Italy with _Trenitalia_ so a high level of quality and service, where _Renfe_ had a monopoly (so no competition on there, except _Ouigo)_ and only the line Madrid-Sevilla had a warranty of arriving late than 5 minutes.
So now, in the _low-cost_ range you can find that _Renfe_ have created the new brand _Avlo_ (which is the acronym of alta velocidad low cost) to try to compete with _Ouigo_ and, I think that Renfe must react fast, because _Iryo_ already have experience in Italy...
I don't think that Iryo is entirely low cost in the sense that is a bit _-expensive-_ well balanced in a close comparison with the plane and even with a bus, in the quality/price/time of travel ratio.
@@juanmcm Iryo is not meant to be low cost. Renfe should be really worried.
Well @@NonstopEurotrip as maybe you have read (I also compare that with bus and plane), I said that isn't low cost because it's a bit expensive and well, why must be a low cost?
Almost any company can create a low cost service, but a business/executive class not really.
Instead positioning in the lower grade _Iryo_ people folks decide (I think very clever and wisely) to enter also in a higher grade and having a competitive prices.
Is expensive? I think yes, but having the _Haizea_ service on board and other things like material of the seats and more that I assume you saw also in _Frecciarossa,_ I think yes it worths.
Maybe Renfe must be worried about, but I think that they must think first on improving the _AVE_ experience on board and then maybe am offer more or less the same than _Iryo_ or other...
@@juanmcm All AVE lines (Renfe) to any city guarantee punctuality and refund the amount of the ticket if the established schedule is not met.
That food looked sooo good! Especially for train food? I'm sold
It was!
Give our train back
You sent it there
@@NonstopEurotrip i am kidding
Madrid - Puerta de Atocha is now called Madrid - Puerta de Atocha - Almudena Grandes, named after a famous Spanish writer, died in late 2021.
Spanish Public TV (TVE) will remember her with an adaption of one of its novels to a TV series called "Los Pacientes del Doctor García"
Well they haven't changed the signs yet 😉
@@NonstopEurotrip Because the only changed sign is at the station's greenhouse that says: "Almudena Grandes"
And it was changed just before you rode on the Iryo train
Hope not.
Atocha será siempre Atocha por mucho que quieran cambiar o agregar un nombre,como Barajas será conocido siempre así y no como Adolfo Suarez. La manía de los políticos de querer cambiar los nombres de las calles,aeropuertos, estaciones de tren etc. solo es por conveniencias políticas y no por que el pueblo,el verdadero pueblo, tenga necesidad de cambiar nada.
That's too long. Atocha is and will be Atocha
The Iryo high speed trains are so beautiful and Spain does have the best railway in Europe.
They have their great points, but some of the MD/LD services still leave a lot to be desired with service frequency and price
Greetings I took Iryo from Madrid to Valencia and a week later took it from Barcelona to Madrid and I have to say that it's a great experience. Recommended it 💯 percent
Completely agree 👍🏻
Just travelled return trip between Barcelona & Zaragoza, outbound trip was with Renfe AVE, return leg was with Iryo, - Iryo was by far the superior service, in both quality of train, ticket pricing etc etc, they will be my first port of call on all future bookings.
Completely agree 💯
Iryo is a treat compared to renfe's aging fleet. Madrid is one of my favorite cities in Europe. I prefer it to Barcelona which is also nice to visit.
Completely agree 💯
Only a few things:
Not all high speed services are in Puerta de Atocha right now; some are diverted to Chamartin until the new not dead-end station sector is built.
The stop outside Atocha at these time of the day I would assume is some kind of delayed overnight engineering works.
I've rode this last winter; they had an impressive acceleration (10' early arrival) very good ride but for me Velaro is still a bit higher in comfort (for cabin pressurizing). Lounges in Madrid and Barcelona are very basic; only a coffe or chocolate is included. And for tickets it's possible to use the "Casa Iryo" at the stations served. In Puerta de Atocha is near the tropical garden, under the shelter before passing security.
There's no Iryo lounge inside Atocha.
@@NonstopEurotrip The "Casa Iryo" aren't lounges, are some kind of travel center for the company. Sorry if was misunderstood
I'm happy there is more competition, last time I was in Spain. I wanted to go from Murcia to Madrid, but even booking more than 1 week prior, the price was ridiculous. I ended up taking a bus with Alsa, which to be fair is great, but I like trains better.
Yeah, unfortunately the routes without competition are still quite overpriced. I've used alsa before too, and they're good!
Build in italy, softpower italy,
Los precios en clase Singular me parecieron muy economicos, viendo la comodidad de los asientos la distancia y el tiempo, encuentro la relacion costo beneficio muy favorable. Ojala se pueda mantener la competencia entre los tres operadores asi el beneficiario es el pasajero, donde tambien seamos justos "Todos" deben ganar. Gracias por el viaje 🇺🇾
Thanks! Yes, it is great value!
I’m going to Spain in October and taking the train from Madrid to Barcelona in first class. The only thing that kept me from booking with Iryo was the overly complex booking system I could not understand. Went with Renfe instead.
Renfe's really isn't that much better 😂
What ??
@@quirky-smooths You can choose passport or ID for other countries. I did last night and booked with no issues.
Hay un comentario que dice que desde el tren se ve los montes de Málaga pues no es cierto ya que estan a la izquierda pasado el tunel de Abdalajis que no se ve en el video. Lo que se ve es el macizo del Hacho.
Great video !!
Thanks!
Despite the original dirty windows, it was a great review of the train in Spain! I've never ridden any high-speed train, only the slower trains in Holland and Germany. Here in Florida, USA, we've just started high-speed train service from Miami to Orlando, but it's not as fast as those in Europe. I think the fastest speed is about 135mph.
Thanks for sharing ☺️
En España están limitados a 300 o 310 km/h unas 190 millas/hora, pero ese en teoría alcanza mas de 380 km/h, 236 millas/hora, lo mejor de esos trenes son las ofertas comprando con antelación se puede conseguir un Madrid Barcelona a 7€ con AVLO, 9€ con OUIGO y unos 10€ con IRYO, claro si es temporada alta donde todo va lleno, es mas difícil, pero en temporada normal y comprando con 3 semanas de antelación si se consiguen precios increíbles.
How was the ride quality and noise level other than passengers talking in the background?
They're excellent tbh
Nice video. I love European trains so I am glad I found your channel!
I have not tried Iryo, but I hope to get back to Spain in a few years and visit Málaga and other parts of the south. I’ll keep the company in mind! Looks like a great value!
I’ve only been on Renfe AVE from Madrid to Barcelona back in 16. It was fine but my one experience with an “alternative” competitor was Ítalo in Italy the following year and I found that to be a great experience!
Thank you! Be sure to watch my other videos! Iryo are my go to now 👌🏻
unbelievable cheap with such a great service! how is it possible.
Station look so amazing like an airport 😮
Doesn't it just!
it's called Italian quality exported out of Italy, thank you Spain!
Like olive oil?. 😂😂😂
@@pablofernandez3284 maybe... or like Ferrari, Maserati, Ducati, and many, many other Real and ONLY Italian Things.. 😉😉
@Seran But the train was made by hitachi in italy.
@Seran Yes Hitachi is Japanese, but before the company was Ansaldo breda, then hitachi changed the name. However the first trains are made by Ansaldo. So it's an Italian train.
@@Filippo.E464 hitachi is italian, is the most popular railways manufacturer of italia, like alstom in france, siemens, bombardier in germany, and caf, talgo and stadler in spain
Look forward to riding on an Iryo train. Have ridden Ouigo and Ave multiple times. Also can’t wait for the Barajas/Atocha line to be built. Transferring from Barajas to Atocha is annoying unless you take a 35 euro cab. Also, the Valencia trains depart from Chamartin
You can take a Cercanías train (free if you are taking an AVE) which connect to Chamartin and Atocha in 15-20 minutes. But yeah, taking the HSR to the airport will be a huge step forward.
It's no pain using the metro or cercanías to get from the airport, and it's quite cheap.
do you get Cercanías train if you take Iryo? If not then whats the best and cheapest way to transfer from Atocha to Chamartin
@@deepbhansali7673 Yes, you do!
@@NonstopEurotrip can you please help where will I get this Cercanias ticket? I have already purchased Iryo ticket from Omio website.. and 2nd question is I understand that as per Iryo policy baggage allowance is 25 kg but if the weight of the total luggage is 30 kg then will I be allowed? And I checked iryo website also there is no option to add extra luggage.. can you please help me with the same?
Wow this is a great video. We had planned this trip I think 2 years ago but it was canceled because of the pandemic 😷. Now after seeing this video I would love to give another try but this time on this great train. Maybe even a stop in Cordoba, who knows. I was once in Seville and took the high speed train to Cordoba and loved it. Thanks for posting mate.
Sorry to hear that, but yes I hope you can do it again soon 😁
Voice in 05:16 : «No se graba, caballero» ("No recording, sir.") 😂
I heard him 😂
When you were boarding the train I saw the front of the train and thought they really needed to run it through a car wash before each trip. Regards Chris from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺
Definitely needs a train wash 😁
For a departure of 6:55A.M. that has dirty windows, there is NO EXCUSE because it’s probably coming in from the yards where it can pass through a train wash. 🤔. Seat looked comfortable ✅. Ability to pre order meal ✅. Meal looked great (albeit not my choice since I don’t eat seafood) ✅. Fare seemed reasonable ✅. And if the booking site seems complicated, I’d stop in at the ticket office a day or two ahead of my trip if I got frustrated with the booking process. 😉
Unfortunately you need to book online early to get the best prices. But I know you Rob, first class only so just choose the most expensive one 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip … I book in advance whenever possible but if it becomes complicated and I get frustrated that’s when I head to the ticket office. As far as first class goes, at this stage of life (I’m starting my 7th decade) it’s COMFORT and SERVICE that are the priorities. At least a decade ago I saw a little sign on my Virtuoso Travel Agents desk … “if you don’t fly first class today, your beneficiaries will tomorrow”. 😉👍🏻
I agree. I tried Renfe, Ouigo, and Iryo. Iryo was by far the best value.
And the best train 😉
Enjoyed that video, thanks for sharing.
I’ve travelled with all three companies on the ZGZ-MAD and ZGZ-BCN routes and enjoyed my trip with Iryo. However, I did notice, their trains rocked a lot more than OUIGO. My orange juice just wanted to paint the floor! Renfe’s rock a little but less than Iryo. I’ve read that the lines between ZGZ-BCN are the fault. However, it’s definitely more noticeable on the Iryo train.
With the exception of the AVE Velaro, these trains ride the best in Spain, I guess it must be the track!
Astonishing
You had me at "at seat meal service" to be fair. Is there a water ban preventing the cleaning the train before it enters service for the day? Cordoba is a city on my "to visit" list.. I like Malaga station. Spent a few hours there once after having flown to Malaga waiting for a (non high speed) train to Seville..
No idea about the train cleaning, I've never had an AVE this dirty!
I recently did this trip expeirence was awesome
nice video have done the Renfe Valencia to Madrid just before the pandemic , great train and service better than flying
Yes, you are right 👍🏻
In Madrid middle of June and a good friend (runs restaurants) organises food festivals in Barcelona. Randomly booked Inicial early Friday morning and Infinita Bistro for way back Same day for €75 which is pretty decent for a Fridy not too far in the future.
Great value!
well, Iryo is the best!!!
Awesome video, hoping to do this trip next week myself, but from Malaga to Madrid 😀
Hope you enjoy it!
Looks a nice train, however I would miss executive class after travelling on it earlier this week as it was amazing!
It doesn't need it tbh
Cordobá is one of my Europe dream destinations that I haven't been to yet. I think this train video would be a convincing factor to finally go visit.
Btw, slightly off-topic. Following the full implementation of Brexit, how do British train vloggers like you cope with having to limit yourselves to the "90 within 180 days" rule whenever travelling to mainland Europe?
You should definitely try and go, it's stunning! The 90/180 days is not an issue for me, I'm never in the EU that much anyway, I'm usually in Asia 4/5 months of the year
The baby heads were made by Antonio López a famous Spanish sculptor and painter
But why....
It's really weird 😂
@@paulthiel5145 I think it was based in his grandson head, there are a few of them around Spain
Why 😆😆😆
Hi, Excellant Video !!! Thank you very much for sharing. Please do more train videos of Indian Railways !!!!
More to come very soon!
With a 15-minute delay, Renfe would have reimbursed you 50% of the ticket.
Indeed, yes!
Great trip. Finally another new route of Iryo. Ah unfortunately, same situation like before, lounge isn't open until 9.00 am, Iryo should be updated it on their website. Overall nice journey.
Absolutely yes, glad you enjoyed 😃
Renfe with their Pato offers a better ride at high speed. I took IRYO twice ( Barcelone-Madrid and Valencia-Madrid), I must admit that it felt a bit unstable compared to the Pato.
the frecciarossa 1000 is without any doubt the best train in europe…
@@MultiGamingOfficial I am afraid that is not true. At least in Spain, the Talgo Pato offers a better ride than the Frecciarossa 1000. The Pato is state-of-the-art. Its stability is unmatched. It is my opinion.
@@MultiGamingOfficial 😂😂😂. The patriot feeling. Yeah. Whatever you want. Whatever you say. You can sleep quietly.
@@pablofernandez3284 it’s a fact.. just look at some videos in this account or do a research on the web. it’s really the best in europe
This is far superior to the AVE S102/112 in every possible way 😄
Isn't that just a Frecciarossa 1000 but without Executive class and iryo branding?
Yes
Pretty much 😂
Madrid Atocha seems to be a very beautiful railway station.
Yes, some of the statues, especially the baby heads do seem creepy.
It is! Except the creepy babies lol
You know what would be cool ? Measure the level of noise in the train. Find a decibel app on your phone to tell you that. That would be a nice point of comparison for different trainsets.
I won't be doing that any time soon, sorry!
The ETR 400 is noisy inside
@@klausbriesma9050 Is it ? Funny thing it seems to be very silent outside, unlike high speed trains in general.
@@Desi365 it really is
I made this journey last week and I agree that Iryo is an absolutely first class service. Superior to RENFE.
I was disappointed in the 'departure lounge ' at Atocha which has hardly any seats for use whilst waiting to board. This tends to drive passengers into the cafés etc where the prices are such that I frankly refused to buy anything.
Did you try the lounge across the road?
@@NonstopEurotrip No because I only arrived at Atocha an hour or so before the departure time.
Creepy baby heads are supposed to be an homage to the victims of the terrorist attack “11-M” that happened on that station on the 11 of may 2004, 175 people died was very tragic
Thanks for the info 🙏🏻
It was on the 11th March 2004.
Very nice views🤩🤩🤩🤩
😍😍😍
Of course, the best train for rich people. It's better Avlo from Renfe, cheaper and confortable to travel. Same speed.
Regards
It's not expensive, but obviously there are cheaper options!
@@NonstopEurotrip it's not expensive now. Wait
The only thing I don't like about this trains is the livery, they dind't change anything, only a couple of stickers with the new brand, however the colour and the "Frecciarossa" brand are still in the train, even the italian flag!
If it ain't broke...
I don't see how the fare structure is complicated, most travelers know if they are business or second class so here there is one between with a split for each of the 3 fare types. Looks very similar to most airline booking fare structures as they are now
There's too many options. I'm used to dealing with these things and even found it confusing.
Nice music 🎶🎵
Thank you for sharing. We have done Barcelona to Paris on Renfe and enjoyed it. In July we will be traveling on Iryo found trip from Madrid to Málaga. We will actually be staying in Marbella for 3 weeks. Do you have any tips on transportation from Málaga to marbella? Thank you.
You can get the train as far as fuengirola, the. It's a bus I'm afraid!
@@NonstopEurotrip Thank you.
You forgot to link the menu
Correct, thanks!
Here it is: iryo.eu/en/travel/haizea-gastronomy
When is OUIGO going to start this route? When that happens, that really will be a game changer.
Hardly 😂
184-86 Miles Hr 😂🎉
No food service into the First Class seats ?
There is, as shown in the video.
So they serve you the food in your seat like in other trains in first class, included in the price of the ticket ?
@@NonstopEurotrip
The lounge didn’t open until 0900 yet what Sporades to be their last departure of the morning departed at 0916ish. That’s rubbish
Yep 😬😬😬
@@NonstopEurotrip who’s Sporades ? 😂😂
They represent “Day” (Día) and “Night” (Noche).
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Anything that has a connection to Trenitalia is simply the BEST 🇮🇹 ❤ 🚄
Please start putting the habit of sharing ticket fares in Rupees as well.
Sorry, I have to draw the line somewhere
How does the background noise of people talking get into the video? I hear that a lot on RUclips train videos.
What do you mean?
This noise can shadow the the noise of this train. Its very annoying
@@NonstopEurotrip I guess you don't hear it on your end but passengers talking in the background is on almost all the travel videos.
Vmax 300 km/h or 290 km/h?
300
Have you ever been Tage a Rede with the Lappland Presse?
I don't know what that means, sorry.
Renfe AVE usually has more confortable seats, less shaky trains and with a 15min delay they already give you back 50% of the price ticket. That being said, Iryo is usually cheaper than AVE
They both have good and bad points!
This train is more stylish but more noisy ass well than Talgo
Amezing review!. May I suggest you next time you pass in Spain to try to review the Talgo VII ( It's the Intercity from Valencia to Barcelona don't be confused with the other one that comes from Murcia ) It's Spain rarest train and has a intresting interior ( Really similar to DB Ice trains in my opinion) these Talgo VII are really special because they used to be Night trains.( Right now most of the Talgo VII are being converted to series 107 High Speed train). So it's pretty rare to see that set of Talgo with a proper locomotive.
Do these still operate Madrid to Almería too? I plan to try them soon 😀
@@NonstopEurotrip I'm sorry to inform that no. That Talgo would be the Talgo VI which is a Older generation of Talgo coaches (That the more comun Talgo coach on the Renfe network) and it operates the routes from
Madrid to Algeciras (On the HS lines until Antequera Santa Ana)
Madrid to Badajoz
Madrid to Almería
Barcelona to Valencia to Alicante to Murcia.
The Talgos VI are really fun to ride.
@@Cepia120 perfect thanks for your help 🙏🏻
Thank you very much for the video how much is it the ticket
All the information is in the video
The last thing transport corporations want is competition , the number of competitors is inversely proportionate to the amount of profit.
It's just a matter of time until there's deals done followed by a duopoly with exactly the same fares.
There are measures in place to avoid that, including a competition overwatch body. Italy's Trenitalia and Italo have been at it for quite a while now and it has worked wonders.
Competition is here to stay
El Mejor tren de España y de Europa y ( del mundo )
El Talgo Avril,
Talgo ICE - L y el CAF Oaris,
Iryo son 3 empresas : 1 italiana y 2 españolas,
El tren es Bombardier.
Talgo anything cannot be the best train in the world. Don't get me wrong, I like them, but there's many better trains!
Have you tried a Talgo Avril?
@@klausbriesma9050 Seeing that they're not in service because it's taking ages to get them certified... Best train the in the world *giggles*
Dammit! And now I'm looking at Santander-Madrid options to then go on to Cordoba or Sevilla.
Sorry ✌🏻😂
whats that fancy western movie song?
All the music information is always in the video description
I am from Spain, and all I can say is that after having tried Iryo, I am not going back to Renfe, even if I have to pay more.
Completely agree.
You will have to pay more. These prices see just for the first introduction into the market
@@klausbriesma9050 not true.
@@NonstopEurotrip we will see
@@klausbriesma9050 I will have no problem with that as the service is WAY BETTER than renfe :)
Unfortunaly your sponsers message was over written by youtube adverts. Tried to watch again same as.. lol.😮
Changed it, thanks. They're automatic
Los que hemos probado suficientemente la alta velocidad con diversos trenes..... sabemos que los trenes de iryo están bien pero no son los mejores. Será cuestión de gustos.
AGV and Velaro D are very comparable imo
@@NonstopEurotrip AGV are not comparable
@@klausbriesma9050 clearly they are 😂😂😂
So why is there no executive class on these particular Frecciarossas?
I couldn't find an answer to that!
I do wonder up to what point it's economically beneficial to run them even in Italy. As in, maybe if it were converted to a normal first class coach you'd earn more money with the extra capacity. But who knows.
@@CityWhisperer I actually booked Frecciarossa executive class later this year precisely because of the availability of the product. I really like the premium option it offers and would like to see other operators offering similar products as well.
I mean I gotta visit all those La Liga cities 😂
Bom dia muito lindo da madrid
Renfe were too comfortable for far too long in the south of Spain - their ticket prices are extortionate - viva Iryo!
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One s and two ps in disappointment! Check your captions!
I bet you have to spell your surname to people 😆
@@NonstopEurotrip its a nickname since school!
@@KerbeygripThere's an apostrophe in it's, sorry!
@@NonstopEurotrip 🤣🤣🤣
@@Kerbeygrip oh, and please tell me how on earth you got that nickname 🙃
ouigo is also a great train, I enjoyed the trip a lot when i went there
Good, but not great!
What an awful music!!! Great video.
Thanks for the view 😊
Se ven imagenes de la ciudad de Toledo que nada tiene que ver con Madrid.
It looks like most European high speed trains are eliminating bistro cars with tables and seats. I hate that with a purple passion.
@Paseos por Madrid I'm referring to cafe or bar cars, not full service dining cars. Even our Amtrak which is famous for lousy services usually runs cafe cars on all trains.
Some are, some aren't. Depends on a space and length of journey, but notably DB Re sticking with them!
The Span Iryo is better than Italy Frecciarossa 1000. What do you think?
It's literally the same train...
Technically the Italian one is better because it has executive class, but the food is better on Iryo.
@@NonstopEurotrip lo pensi tu
Allora nn hai capito niente di cibo 😂😂
@@linanicoletti6297 I love Spanish food. The best one for me
¡con cuatro compañías ferroviarias (privadas) esto conducirá indudablemente a la bancarrota! por cierto, un tren hermoso y rápido! And besides, it seems to mee too cheap for such a class/ride!
They're all super busy!
@@NonstopEurotrip Gracias! OK, do hope so!!
Cheap now. We will see
È Italia freccia rossa!
That breakfast menu at the station includes a coffee, a croissant and a orange juice for.. 7,50€? No thanks! I'd rather bring something from the hotel and buy a espresso from a vending machine.
It's really not that outrageous for capital city train station
Has a lot of things in spain...takes along time coming, due to the local mayors being kept 'happy' for them to approve, to not having enough money for the project ...or the project money 'mysteriously' going 'missing'.
An example of this would be to the west of Madrid in a place called 'Caceres'. I remember travelling on from Madrid to Caceres 22 years ago (on a 'choo-choo' train that traveled at walking pace!). Train took 4 hours to arrive!.
Outside Caceres station there was a massive roadside billboard boasting about the 'soon' to be high speed train from Caceres to Madrid. Yep!..you guessed it, that railway line and high speed train to date still hasn't materialised.
Furthermore, On the forever popular 'tourist rich coastline of the Costa del Sol, 'local' trains only run from Malaga down the coast before they 'run out' of train line at Fuengirola, and there it ends.
Now you would have thought that on one of the country's most popular and visited (money rich) coastlines in Europe, that the Costa Del Sol, with all of its foreign and tourist investment that of course they would have extended the lines beyond to like Mijas Costa, Calahonda and Marbella to name just a few (Yes!, no train line or station at Marbella!???!).
But no, 60 years on from the mass influx of tourist boom to spain....ain't happened to date!. In one of the most visited country in Europe!.
This bad example is either a product of bad planning and lack of responsibility (heads in the sand syndrome!), money 'disappearing' or just the complacency of well "it doesn't matter the tourist and the foreign investors will still continue to visit even if we don't plough the money into the transport infrastructure etc"....!????!
In stark contrast you have spanish islands like Majorca and Ibiza who in half this time have invested a high proportion of foreign financial investment and tourist cash back into their islands infrastructure and public resources. Something that mainland spain needs to think about (along with their 'many municipality mayors'). Such a poor opportunity missed by an otherwise beautiful country.
Thanks for the umm.... Essay 😆
@@NonstopEurotrip Thanks for umm...taking time out of your day for reading it.
Horrible customer service. This people don't know how to treat a person. If you value your time and money travel with Renfe; otherwise travel with iryo and if you are lucky you won't have to deal with their customer service. Although customer service isn't great in Spain overall, they could do so much better everywhere but iryo takes the cake here; I gave them multiple chances to make it right but they refused to.
First I've heard. What happened?
Perchè è Italiano.
@Erulluvatar come no?
@Erulluvatar idiota quel treno è stato costruito prima che hitachi comprasse l'ansaldo breda che ha costruito quei treni insieme a bombardier , è dal 2015 che sono in funzione nell' AV Italiana , Iryo non è altro che un consorzio tra una ditta spagnola e Trenitalia che ne detiene il 45% , e comunque Hitachi Rail Italy è un azienda Italiana con sede in Italia, per farti capire è la stessa cosa di VW nei confronti di SEAT
Italians do it better.
Lo unico de italiano qie tiene es el libro de estilo y la empresa y supongo que algun directivo es como si yo digo por ejemplo que Inditex ( zara; etc) en Italia y considero que todos los trabajadores son Españoles alli; es ridiculo saludos
Sorry, the food is better here!
@@NonstopEurotrip the food on board Iryo is supposed to be Basque influenced, with the Brand Haizea, meaning Wind, and a luxe pintxo bar inspo!!
You know what would be most helpful? If you took your trips in regular class, something almost all of your viewers will take, if they take a trip on a train. The only reason you keep taking first class is for your own comfort and to feel cool. Make these videos for your viewers, not for yourself.
Over half my trips are in 'regular' class as you call it
@@NonstopEurotrip No, I call it coach class and others call it second or tourist class. I was using a generic term. So you mostly take second class? *Except* in Spain, Austria, Italy, France, Belgium, Germany, India, Sweden, Finland, Georgia, Armenia, Greece, Turkey, Switzerland, Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Thailand, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, UK, and the USA, it seems. Face it, you are traveling for fun and money, while not being helpful to anyone who might want to take the same trip - people who will NOT spend the extra money you do to enjoy yourself.