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  • @CasualHistorian
    @CasualHistorian  Год назад +5

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    • @ellemueller
      @ellemueller Год назад

      @CasualHistorian please break your Black Hebrew Israelites video into smaller parts, and update each section with new information, possibly even re-recording the narrated sections where you read Black authors' words because too many people were misinterpreting your tone of voice while you read those sections.
      This subject has become highly relevant in 2022 and later, because of Ye West & K Irving starting problems on Twitter and on the radio which have spread all over the anglosphere and have caused increased antagonism against Jews. Ye himself has more followers than the number of all the Jews on the planet, and people defending Ye and Irving (and the BHI, and the Nation of Islam) means that not only are Black and Jewish people facing increased hatred from white supremacist groups and racism-lite everywhere in the last 10 years, but also a sudden increase in forms of racism and antisemitism from West, Irving, BHI, NOI, their fans, their apologists, and anyone who isn't explicitly speaking up for Jews just as BLM speaks up for Black Lives.
      This is enormously important!
      It is VERY important to include something like ZOOM conversations or in-person conversations with Black Jews who are willing to talk about how their Blackness doesn't cause their jewishness and their Blackness doesn't negate their jewishness.
      Doing so while also talking about how some Jews may be "whited out" from being in Europe for so long is important as long as it is clear that doesn't make them any less Jewish than being redbone or high yellow makes someone less of an African descendant nor less culturally black - because even with the same parents, some children are darker or lighter than others.
      Including voices of Asian Jews and any other kind of Jews that are obviously not "super white" is important in destroying the idea that "white jews" are the main kind (which is enormously eurocentric and amerocentric where Ashkenazic Jews seem to predominate, due to historical events).
      Over 6 Million people were slaughtered in the Holocaust, it seems most of them were the "white" Jews, and that means that although they were very numerous, they are up to only half at most, and that is because pogroms and some random (islamically unapprovable) attempts to force ethnoreligiois assimilation to small isolated groups of Jews through history in Islamic controlled lands which also greatly reduced the numbers of darker skinned Jews and has caused increased genetic ties between the Jewish and non-Jewish peoples of certain areas from India to British Mandate Palestine, which includes reasons that some Palestinians are genetically closer to Jews and Samaritans (to whom the pogroms and forced assimilations also happened).

    • @uganda_mn397
      @uganda_mn397 Год назад

      @@ellemueller hebrew israElites are heretic towards Jesus's teaching and His aposotles

  • @PikeProductions23
    @PikeProductions23 Год назад +24

    Reminds me of one of my favorite Hitchens quotes. "Of course we have free will. We have no choice but to have it."

  • @TheBCCCrew
    @TheBCCCrew Год назад +14

    It's extremely refreshing to have videos from someone else with a Lutheran background, you just don't see it very much unfortunately.
    As always though, great video, always look forward to the next upload!
    -LQ

  • @Frank-ev5fj
    @Frank-ev5fj Год назад +14

    This series is a great idea.👋👋 I'm a German myself and I find it everytime interesting to see Germany from outside.

  • @dunkelheit5055
    @dunkelheit5055 Год назад +4

    Just a minor, unimporant correction about a comment made in the beginning, not even about anything theological. That is, Luthers influence on the German language.
    The wording of "the formation" of the high German language implies that he created written high German for his bible or that he at least had considerable in the creation of said language. That is a very common misconception about this topic.
    The language was relatively new during the reformation, but it was created a few years before it. Not by Luther, but by prior scholars that codified the different dialects of German.
    Theese can be mainly split into two Groups that had some strong differences, high German and low German. There are subdivisions of course, but high- and low German are so entirely different that they couldn't understand each other, while most low Germans could understand other low German subdivisions, same for high Germans.
    Luther was from a Region called Saxony-Anhalt, one that was at the border between thoose two groups and that had a dialect with the reletive unique feature that both groups understood it.
    He went on to use his own dialect, but that dialect was already existent in written language. Because all Germans could understand it, it was a perfect compromise that meant that it would go on to replace the many different scripts before it with one unified version all could use.
    This does not mean Luther acomplished nothing in the field of language. Like i said, with his writings the written language became more uniform and Germans could now understand the texts of other Germans. This had many advantages, for example in trade, cultural exchange/exchange of ideas and administration. Itwould even be useful way later on as a necessary condition for a fostering a National character and a national identity. That means Luthers acomplishments are very culturaly significant in Germany.
    Lastly i wanted to apologize for any bad english, as it is not my first language. Furthermore i wanted to apologize for the rant about a rather small and (at least for the purposes of the video) insignificant point. I was just getting tired of hearing "did you know Luther created German?" so often and just needed to vent. Thanks for reading.

  • @kaiserteddie9564
    @kaiserteddie9564 Год назад +31

    "luther was basically a 16yth century debate me bro, but instead of competing over twitch clout and underage discord mods, he was competing for the fate of the human soul"
    -historian, casual

    • @str.77
      @str.77 Год назад +2

      He was parading as a "debate me bro" but, when defeated in argument, he rather chose to change the rules. He was the original dishonest "not an argument" bro and developed into an intellectual despot.

    • @HammadiLobbongel
      @HammadiLobbongel Год назад

      @@str.77 defeated in argument being excommunicated?

    • @str.77
      @str.77 Год назад +1

      @@HammadiLobbongel He was defeated in a formal debate at Leipzig in 1519 by Johannes Eck. This prompted him - in the midst of the debate - to invent - Sola Scriptura.
      That was before he was excommunicated.

    • @uganda_mn397
      @uganda_mn397 Год назад

      @@str.77 yeah despite all that and much more, according to Scriptures he was right

    • @str.77
      @str.77 Год назад +1

      @@uganda_mn397 No he wasn't. He had to eliminate some books, manipulate done translations (the 'alone' in 'faith alone' is not present in the Greek original) and reduce all of Church into a means of having a psychological effect.
      He also surrendered the church to governments.

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines Год назад +11

    Neat opening animation! It was almost like 3D!

  • @GonzaloAPH
    @GonzaloAPH Год назад +8

    Didn't expect to find Protestant apologetics in a channel about History.

    • @CasualHistorian
      @CasualHistorian  Год назад +14

      Can you really call it apologetics when it's all historically factual?

  • @sleepyhead8681
    @sleepyhead8681 Год назад +2

    Great video! My dad's long time gf who is Lutheran and we're A secular family.

  • @wizardmadnes8035
    @wizardmadnes8035 Год назад

    5:03 That is really well put and hilarious. Greeting from Sweden just found your channel thanks of the sudan on video, and this video was great.

  • @hanijouda282
    @hanijouda282 Год назад +13

    I don’t usually comment on RUclips , but I have to say it’s really sad that ur channel is so underrated
    Like u upload so much top tier videos which are long and deep at the same time
    And though I’m Palestinian and obviously disagree with some of ur takes on the Pa-Is conflict but still I love watching all ur videos
    Hope to see u get to 100k soon
    And it would be neat to complete this series and maybe do a video about the French wars of religion and England “sorta” wars of religion “HenryVIII till william of orange”
    Anyway great job keep going with the great videos

  • @sidneyadnopoz3427
    @sidneyadnopoz3427 Месяц назад

    I stopped being a Christian a few years back, but I still get mad when people lie about protestantism. It's so common, and rarely challenged

  • @MaryamofShomal
    @MaryamofShomal Год назад

    Wow you’re Lutheran?? I thought you were Jewish this entire time! You’re sooo damn knowledgeable about Israel and the Middle East. As an Iranian-American Christian (UCC - I’m a liberal, so sue me 😋 the old school kind though, not the hippie dippie commies of today), I’ve been devouring your videos nonstop. I can listen to you speak for hours on end (and do!).
    Thank you for your brilliant work ❤️

  • @foundationofBritain
    @foundationofBritain Год назад +3

    Can you do a video on Thomas Cranmer his Anglicanism,(English Fath) and the English Church, (Church of England), please. Great video as always mate.

  • @bigiron9334
    @bigiron9334 Год назад +3

    Also I have to say you look fantastic. Your are showing amazing progress. Keep it up!

  • @Embracehistoria
    @Embracehistoria Год назад +4

    Looking good my dude.

  • @Tymbus
    @Tymbus Год назад +6

    I really enjoyed this. Calvin next?

    • @CasualHistorian
      @CasualHistorian  Год назад +6

      Actually, I already have a video about Calvin. ruclips.net/video/vRyEM5HQej0/видео.html

    • @Tymbus
      @Tymbus Год назад

      @@CasualHistorian cheers for the link

  • @cerealbowl7038
    @cerealbowl7038 Год назад +20

    Martin Luther was not a prophet.

    • @mrcocoloco7200
      @mrcocoloco7200 Год назад +1

      No Shit.

    • @billgatesfauciouchie1696
      @billgatesfauciouchie1696 8 месяцев назад

      No but he changed the world for the better , giving the vatican the finger and starting the protestant movement

    • @scottparker1741
      @scottparker1741 5 месяцев назад

      Yes as much as the HRE was holy, roman or an empire

  • @ConnorLundeen
    @ConnorLundeen Год назад +2

    8:40 prefect opportunity for "What does this mean?" and you fumbled it

  • @MrDaAsif
    @MrDaAsif Год назад +10

    Also a Lutheran, definitely an interesting denomination

    • @uganda_mn397
      @uganda_mn397 Год назад +1

      what is the diference between a baptist and that?

  • @tylerklatt8427
    @tylerklatt8427 Год назад

    Went to a WELS parochial school, and our principal got fired for hitting a kid with a Bible. Went to the traveling Martin Luther 5th century anniversary exhibit at the Minneapolis art museum it was petty sweet. Crazy how Peter the Great signed his door, and then 5 centuries later, they brought it to over the see for a quick exhibit. History is insane.

  • @stevearchtoe7039
    @stevearchtoe7039 Год назад +4

    Congrats on your weight loss! Also good video.

  • @pixeldunevisualization7458
    @pixeldunevisualization7458 Год назад +2

    Great video again!

  • @michakoodziej5741
    @michakoodziej5741 Год назад

    For me the differences between the Lutheran and Catholic doctrine reflect very much the mentality of the people these doctrines were produced by and meant for: the Germanic people (Lutherans) and Romance people (Catholic). There is noting objectively right or wrong here, the Lutheran flavour is simply more fitting for the Germanic people and Catholic for the Romance people…

  • @rjodcsp
    @rjodcsp Год назад +2

    Indulgences were not a remission of sin but of punishment due to sin but were often presented and taken as if they were.

  • @maxschreck4095
    @maxschreck4095 Год назад +2

    Interesting video. But one question I always wanted to ask - isn´t it disastrous for society when good works don´t get you into heaven, only faith alone?

    • @uganda_mn397
      @uganda_mn397 Год назад +2

      If i may anwser
      No, all men are saved only after repenting from our sins, realizing God is perfectly Just to let us be in His sinless presence.
      Those who turn to Jesus and then we are changed as promised in ezekiel 36,26 that God changes our hearts so we would desire to walk in His ways.
      Therefore we walk by His Guidance, our gratitude and His supernatural change of our hearts
      Here is a Scripture that may explain it for you
      Ephesians 2:8-10
      For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them

    • @enzsquid3462
      @enzsquid3462 Год назад +2

      To oversimplify the traditional Protestant view: good works are a consequence and sign of faith, but only faith leads to salvation

    • @maxschreck4095
      @maxschreck4095 Год назад +1

      @@enzsquid3462 If that were true the faithful would do a lot more good works.

  • @str.77
    @str.77 Год назад +2

    Whether Luther's ideas amounted to revolution.
    Basically: there is a fundemental difference between Luther before and after 1518.
    A very informative study is Paul Hacker's "Faith in Luther: Martin Luther and the Origin of Anthropocentric Religion", finally available in an English translation.

  • @michakoodziej5741
    @michakoodziej5741 Год назад +1

    An absolute fascinating story, I can relate to many points in my spiritual life. I had also some interesting experiencing for I was living for many years with some french (from Romance culture) and Germans - I think the Luthers struggle within the Catholic Church is also based on the difference in the Germanic and roman understanding of the law. The Germans need less laws and more general rules, but the follow them diligently. The romans needs many rules and very specified but they don’t follow them strictly. So the laws made in Rome drive the Germans to insanity, because they tray to follow all the rules, but its too much.

  • @gagegarlinghouse258
    @gagegarlinghouse258 Год назад

    Charles Porterfield Krauth is proud of your title.

  • @thebatmanwholaughs7877
    @thebatmanwholaughs7877 Год назад

    Day 1 of asking casual historian for a personal library review

  • @65gtotrips
    @65gtotrips Год назад

    The Rapture is in the Bible in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. Christ comes in the air for his Body, the Bride, the Church, then after the Tribulation He will actually touch the earth on the Mount of Olives. The Latin Vulgate, the 1st translation from the Greek word ‘harpazō’ has the word ‘rapio’ or ‘rapier’ in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 meaning the ‘catching away’ aka ‘to be caught up’ aka ‘to seize’.

  • @str.77
    @str.77 Год назад +1

    10:34 Yes, the meaning of the passage changes if you insert "alone". It might not seem much of a difference if you look at this chapter alone (but then you are already misunderstanding Paul) but it makes a huge difference if you do not, as Luther did, look at Paul in isolation and ignore what a certain James and a certain Jesus had to say on the matter.
    The other misunderstanding of course is that "Works of the Laws" is not the same a works in general.
    PS. The complaint about Luther mistranslating has nothing to do with the Vulgate. The translation is wrong based on the Greek text as well.

  • @MrBlack-wt5er
    @MrBlack-wt5er Год назад +1

    He wrote a really good book, I think (E Micheal Jones) wants to be the new age Martin Lutheran! Anyway I think he was truly a memorable figure throughout history...

  • @str.77
    @str.77 Год назад

    Of course, the Scala Santa has nothing to do with the sale of indulgences. One should never make the mistake of believing stories Luther told about himself.

  • @groovinhooves
    @groovinhooves Год назад

    Depending on the nation or region and who was in power, Christendom also didn't care if someone of Jewish ancestry had converted (however many generations previous) or not, either, and the claim you are making here is therefore either disingenuous or academically lazy.

  • @str.77
    @str.77 Год назад +1

    13:18 "This gets the timeline wrong... at the time, these seven books were not part of the canon ... of the actual bible"
    That's absolutely false. The canon, as we have it, was already defined by councils around 400 in Carthage and Rome and the seven books were unquestionably part of the Bible all throughout the middle ages. The only one holding a different opinion was Jerome in the 4th century but he submitted when Pope Damasus told him to translate all books.
    The canon including the deuterocanonical books was part of decision of the Council of Florence in the middle of the 15th century.
    Yes, that Canon was dogmatically defined at Trent after Luther but a) was this in response to Luther raising the question again and b) does that not mean that it didn't exist before (as I just explained). That same logic would mean that before 325 Jesus wasn't God in the Christian faith. Dogmatic Definitions do not introduce a new doctrine but make an already existing doctrine definite.
    Given that the Church never adhered to Sola Scriptura before Luther, the question of whether these seven books were on the same plane as Genesis, Isaiah or Matthew was not that important. Luther with his innovation made the matter much more pressing.
    Finally, Luther did not only remove seven books from the Old Testament but also some from the New Testament. Only that this never stuck even in the Lutheran church.

    • @JesusProtects
      @JesusProtects Год назад

      WHO told them to translate ALL the books? Oh, yes, the Man of Sin himself. And is not even a 100% true translation, there are a few slipped verses here and there to make catholic tradition look more biblical. And you believe they are all inspired... Wow.
      Nestle Aland, buddy. 28th edition. When will the bible be complete and perfect? On the 30th edition? 40th? 100th?

  • @peterszeug308
    @peterszeug308 Год назад

    5:16 ... and with these 95 feces XD

  • @sleepy0
    @sleepy0 Год назад

    Thomas Müntzer was the based face of the movement. Screw Luther, that antisemitic maniac.

  • @desperado8605
    @desperado8605 Год назад +1

    Rapture not in the Bible? Elaborate please

    • @ZacharyTLawson
      @ZacharyTLawson Год назад

      These are helpful overviews
      ruclips.net/video/cg8lRGqtMHc/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/d_cVXdr8mVs/видео.html

  • @oolooo
    @oolooo Год назад +2

    Its standing on an irrelevant and meaningless political chart is not important .We should remember it for what it is: one of the worst events in Human History .

  • @blokefrommalaya
    @blokefrommalaya Год назад

    James 2:14-26
    Faith Without Works Is Dead
    14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
    18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [f]your works, and I will show you my faith by [g]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [h]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [i]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [j]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only
    25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
    26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

  • @johnbeechy
    @johnbeechy Год назад

    myop Marty did the right thing to GIVE the reps some shit they were putting their souls into jeopardy and God sent Marty to recon them 'greedy bastards'. /

  • @johnbeechy
    @johnbeechy Год назад

    16:38// from the low brow low class slave perspective Marty L was a rebel Because slaves do not rise Up. that really only happens a few times in real life, vs the many times in the movies/ slaves hate the THEM that decide to make the fate they wish upon Martin Luther would have made a Great Judge Dredd

  • @johnbeechy
    @johnbeechy Год назад

    10:53// U can have Faith in yourself and in your abilities, prior to ever having to pass a test of that Faith.
    eg: i have Faith i will be guided to study the contents that will be on the test. said one student to himself /
    Faith in (say Jesus) God to Guide (cap on the G) the person with Faith for when there is a challenge in life, and there is no reason/rational or other wise for such a challenge. May faith allow for the time to pass with patience, and an allowance for the slaves that Hold up the master(s). small M

  • @johnbeechy
    @johnbeechy Год назад

    9:32// Paul/saul as i know him, did not believe in the words of Jesus saul eventually Bumped into Jesus, while in the desert. saul made it out like he had been blinded, but given No one that had been crossed had ever walked away from a crossing. EX: Jesus //
    this is a known known due to Thomas the doubter believing //
    IF someone without Faith in their own decision-making ability were to have Faith in 'what Jesus would do'. there may be a chance God Itself may Guide the person in quest, or provide a nice weather (that will be reported: eg: battle of the Bulge a Preacher writes a weather prayer for Patton. Patton recites the words, and the next day the 'weather is perfect'.//
    It was a different time without consumerism and without American Greed // Luther would have LOST it just watching the last season of LOST. how can someone Produce all that folk lore and myth, only to end the show with such a let down.
    well, considering how saul/paul, and peter, went out. neither scored the exit strategy Jesus did.
    Jesus said to peter, 'u shall be the rock'. while Jesus' Acts of walking out of town proved to be the RT Path // was that Free Will? or just common sense?

  • @johnbeechy
    @johnbeechy Год назад

    After all to have Faith IN Jesus is to repeat His words, His Acts and that should include Leaving when the time is right. RT after every one thinks u be dead, u walk out // tv streaming show reference: HBO's new Game of Thrones'// there is a gay dude that is NOT killed, but thought to be. and he leaves with his bF rt after all believe he has died/

  • @johnnielawson5013
    @johnnielawson5013 Год назад

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