This is why they hate everyone who records their operations or equipment. They don't want the public to see what kind of shape This railroad is really in.
Play the video slow and you can see the #4 axle dropped in just before the frog. This is more likely a wide guage issue near the frog rather than picking the switch point. Either way they are living on the edge running six axle power on that track. Of course any upgrade costs money and track work is not cheap. Joys of running a railroad.
Yeah it's going to do something - fall off the tracks! Great catch, Jason. I saw another video where they re-railed cars using cut ties and big crowbars. I had yet another Oak came down at our place from that windstorm.
The idea of a train mystefies me. It seems like you are pushing or pulling a rope. Side force on a curve. Trying to straighten the rope. When I see a string of empty flat cars in the middle of a train, I wonder how they stay down on the rails..
I think you would absolutely love where I live. 4 tracks 50 feet away from my kitchen window. I am so over the lack of sleep as the engines are loud seeing as they just travelled over the Canadian Rockies.
@@ArtsiCraftsi Between 3 and 330 every single morning, it arrives. Shes heavy and loud. BUT I know she's moving food and such so I don't complain too much! I just wish I could go back to sleep...
Uniden "Use to" have high quality professional sounding radios. The audio was robust loud an clear didn't need to have it close to your ear. What they have now reminds me of Radio Shack
@@jasonasselinI'm not in a position to send you anything, I wish I could. Thank you for these videos and your hard work. If you're interested there's Union Pacific through Adams-Friendship in Adams County and a 20 minute drive away is the CPKC Tomah Sub from Chicago to LaCrosse. A lot of fallen flags on freight cars go through there as well as Amtrak. Maybe we could meet! Best Wishes
Awesome video as always Jason and I swear during the video right around the time that the engine drops off the rail, he said something about 506 I never saw 506 on any of your videos that I can remember
The FRA would only come sniffing around if they started having major derailments, at high speed, piling up cars like an accordion, spilling fuel, spilling chemicals, causing death and major destruction. All railroads have these kind of minor (annoyances) derailments. Not worth the FRA's time and effort to come out with guns a-blazin' for little things like this.
Thwy would never have time to leave CSX or NS property if they looked at every little derail that happens. Probably more than we know about on the FNBS and UP too.
"Not allowed on _CN_ track" sounds like an inspection/certification failure. Probably something minor that will be a trivial fix, but will take weeks to schedule and cycle thru the shop.
Looks like only 503 derailed. I was watching a video where CSX (?) was picking up from a industrial siding where only could pull cars at around 5 mph. some days.
Picked the switch. If the adjustment isn't tight, the switch stand moves the two pieces of rail, but if there is slop, the wheel flanges can "pick" and open up the switch rail away from the stock rail. At that point, at least that axle, if not the whole truck and subsequent trucks, will end up seeing the rails go out of gauge (because the stock rail on one side goes that way, while the stock rail on the other side goes the other way, widening apart), leaving nowhere for the axles to go except down onto the ground. In addition to having to send out a crew to re-rail the cars or locos that dropped wheels off the rails, they will want to have the road foreman, or his appointed section foreman (or subordinate) inspect the switch for damage. If no damage, likely it will require adjusting and a servicing (oiling or greasing the slideways where the steel rails are moved sideways when the switch is thrown).
i once had a dear friend who had worked for years on railroads. when it snowed heavily, and they didn't want to go out and sweep the switches, they would derail a car so that the yard would be closed.
@neilrobertson811 The railroad screwed her out of her retirement by working her 30 and 40 days straight as a dispatcher. when a dispatcher makes a mistake, which causes a fatality, they, not the company, are charged with murder. She was forced to quit her job due to fear and exhaustion, and she didn't have the wherewithal to fight the railroad. Go judge yourself.
@@harridan. Everyone has a sob story and I don't care about the train company. How many peoples trips did she screw up through the derailment? How many of her colleagues had to work even more hours to fix what she broke? If you don't like a job then leave, its simple.
I actually wonder why it derailed. First truck passed ok. Nevermind.. “picked a switch” On a side note..train flanges are too small. All it takes is 1” of wheel lift for whatever reason and down goes the wheel.
18:00 It sounds like he is saying “dump it” as opposed to stop it. But once it’s on the ground, anything meaning stop is the correct way of saying stop.
dump it is probably the best term to use, its the most clear way to have a sense of urgency without creating panic while getting the message across to dump the air brakes
Good catch Jay. Bad day for E&LS. Ya might wanna get a helmet when chain sawing something that could send the sawyer to ER or worse. Have a great day and Bsafe.
For the first 2 minutes one can hear a clunking sound in the background and apparently that is the shredder chewing up old Automobiles and the like so great sound effects. No doubt once the dust settled they probably were thinking maybe we should have sorted this back in Pembine or Crivitz (but that might have been too crowded at the latter) While luckily they didn't wind up in the mess but having the Hazmat tanker and the center beam flat on that siding did not help they might have even had more gons than the capacity of the siding but it looked like they had a long NOKL gon for the ore service whenever that is supposed to happen
Jason. I believe you mentioned that you have a shop on Etsy for that Yooperlite you harvest up there at the lake. Can you specify the name of your shop so I get the right one? My wife is into that stuff.
What the E & L Inferior Railroad needs to do is completely upgrade their tracks and rail bedding so trains can properly use it. Enough of cars that almost wiggle and wobble off the tracks even at turtle-paced speed. How embarrassing for a railroad to be in such a poor overall condition! The board that oversees railroad safety should shut the entire system down including all sidings until satisfactory improvements are made. What a joke!
That's a huge investment to lay out. With the tracks allowed to fall to the condition they're in presently, the easiest solution is to defer the maintenance, and put a 10 mph restriction on the poor section. The train can still negotiate rough track, and even if something does go wrong at 10 mph, the damage won't be nearly as catastrophic as it would be at 50mph or above. So, rather than pour money that they really don't have available, that is the solution. It takes all day for the train to get around, but they have money in the account to fuel up the locos, pay the employees, keep the lights on, pay the taxes, etc. You would need to sign some heavy-duty contracts guaranteeing a lot of work (and thus a lot of revenue) before the track owners would consider dumping huge sums into upgrading to better road conditions. With a bunch of additional traffic, they would need to to keep the line from becoming congested with creepy-crawling trains, so they might send in the crews to change selected ties, a few sticks of rail here and there, and maybe get the conditions good enough to handle 25 or 30 mph trains. But, this is a small company, slowly shedding customers as time goes by. They only put in the bare minimum needed to keep the trains up on the steel. If ten mph gets the job done, that is all that is needed. It's not a mainline where every 15 minutes some 12,000 ton train needs to blast by doing 55 mph.
Quite the variety of cars in this manifest... Interesting they decided to do the reblocking of the CB at Alter... then again, if they are dropping it at LP mill on way to Channing, why not? LOL.... Crazy how you can see the trailing truck on 503 climb the rails and drop inside the gauge. That happens even at BNSF, UP, NS, CN, etc....
Google earth would show you if there are two tracks back there …. Stay tuned for next episode “did they derail” ?!?!? 🤷♂️ Enjoy tree work, nice cool day to be outside
So many small rail systems like this don't generate enough revenue to maintain their trackage. Considering the trillions of dollars the government throws away on foreign aid it seems like something could be done to help maintain these lines before they disappear. So many lines that were abandoned during the last 40 years are now needed.
The railroads today don't want to stop at the towns that made the railroad. They want to haul 120 cars from point A to point B and never stop. They forgot where they got their start.
You know it doesn't surprise me much when these short-lines RR have derailment. When you don't reinvest money in upgrading the tracks they use, it is only matter of time. Again I can't blame these short-line RR they don't have deep pockets to keep them in tip top shape. With that said there is no reason why big 5 RR don't reinvest money into their miles of lines that criss-cross the Nation. Just saying.
Suggest that those viewers who are critical of ELS operations try managing a railroad first. It's not an easy job, especially considering the constraints of regulation, state law, operating rules, air brake rules, customer needs, budget, etc.
_Stop it. Stop it._ What the heck is that? The uniformly accepted command used to tell an engineer to stop is *"That'll do!"* not "Stop it." This must be a _very_ inexperienced crew.
I guess only train experts watch this channel. You assume your audience knows something about what is going on. 6 minutes into it and I’m still trying to figure it out.
I guess most of there rail service customers in iron mountain and kingsford must use the bridge in quinesec verses following us 2 into iron mountain as I never see that section of rail used for a while now.
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Happens all the time on my railroad, I usually just reach down pick up the locomotive and set it back on the rails 😂. Nice catch!
It’s always something…which is what makes your vids interesting.
GOOD ONE ELS!, thats what we all have been waiting for🤣🤣😸😸❗
ELS is the Keystone Cops of American railroading
And the Penn Central jr 2.0 lol 😅
This is why they hate everyone who records their operations or equipment. They don't want the public to see what kind of shape This railroad is really in.
Wait..... They REALLY dont want people to record? That is absolutely INSANE!! @@robertmoore254
Lol
If Homer Simpson ran a railway, ELS would be it.
Doh!
😅😅😅😅😅😅
Lol ELS aka Penn Central jr 2.0😅
Run by a demacrat
However, there’s a reason a welfare state remains a state.
Play the video slow and you can see the #4 axle dropped in just before the frog. This is more likely a wide guage issue near the frog rather than picking the switch point. Either way they are living on the edge running six axle power on that track. Of course any upgrade costs money and track work is not cheap. Joys of running a railroad.
I retired as a Conductor for Southern Pacific 28 years ago. I don't miss it one bit...
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Looks like someone's got a burnt out ditch light.
He said, dump it! dump it! dump it!
1221 and 502 went to GB on Wednesday
Yeah it's going to do something - fall off the tracks! Great catch, Jason. I saw another video where they re-railed cars using cut ties and big crowbars. I had yet another Oak came down at our place from that windstorm.
Yep! Rear truck of 503 went on the ground! Bummer!
Good morning I enjoyed the video👍👍
503 ended up on the ground the rear truck on 503 wow man another derailment.
WOW 501 AND 503!
I am so excited to watch the video 😊
Track maintenance aisle 2 great video thanks Jason
The idea of a train mystefies me. It seems like you are pushing or pulling a rope. Side force on a curve. Trying to straighten the rope. When I see a string of empty flat cars in the middle of a train, I wonder how they stay down on the rails..
I think you would absolutely love where I live. 4 tracks 50 feet away from my kitchen window. I am so over the lack of sleep as the engines are loud seeing as they just travelled over the Canadian Rockies.
Luckyyyyyy
@@ArtsiCraftsi Between 3 and 330 every single morning, it arrives. Shes heavy and loud. BUT I know she's moving food and such so I don't complain too much! I just wish I could go back to sleep...
GEE--- a derailment on ELS! I am shocked!!! Say it isnt so!!!!
Uniden "Use to" have high quality professional sounding radios. The audio was robust loud an clear didn't need to have it close to your ear. What they have now reminds me of Radio Shack
Radio Shack did better than this...
Thanks!
No problem! Thank you!
@jasonasselin Enjoy your vids a lot from down south in Arkansas
@@jasonasselinI'm not in a position to send you anything, I wish I could. Thank you for these videos and your hard work. If you're interested there's Union Pacific through Adams-Friendship in Adams County and a 20 minute drive away is the CPKC Tomah Sub from Chicago to LaCrosse. A lot of fallen flags on freight cars go through there as well as Amtrak. Maybe we could meet! Best Wishes
Awesome video as always Jason and I swear during the video right around the time that the engine drops off the rail, he said something about 506 I never saw 506 on any of your videos that I can remember
E&LS does not have a 506. 500-503 are the 4 SD40 series locos E&LS possess. 500 is in the deadline in Wells.
What a cantankerous collection of a consist. The Harris train.
Little surprised the FRA is not looking in to the safety deal with this railroad as many problems that they have
The FRA would only come sniffing around if they started having major derailments, at high speed, piling up cars like an accordion, spilling fuel, spilling chemicals, causing death and major destruction. All railroads have these kind of minor (annoyances) derailments. Not worth the FRA's time and effort to come out with guns a-blazin' for little things like this.
Thwy would never have time to leave CSX or NS property if they looked at every little derail that happens. Probably more than we know about on the FNBS and UP too.
@ 17:57...
leading trucks went through fine... trailing trucks on the ground...
railroading does have its' mysteries
Oh damn
'Picked the switch', Looks like I just learned something new.
Identifies as a locksmith..
Don't ever do industry work with six axle engines. I did "once" and the trucks ripped the frog right out of the ties. Spikes and all.
Similar thing happened here in NJ a few months back. NS brought one of their monster GE engines down a customer siding. Derailed.
Cool video
Your video caught the rear truck of 503 hitting the ground.
Els 502 and 1221 are going to green bay
"Not allowed on _CN_ track" sounds like an inspection/certification failure. Probably something minor that will be a trivial fix, but will take weeks to schedule and cycle thru the shop.
Damn I just watch your other video recently derailed in the snow at the intersection….that line must be old
OH BOY!!!! Investigation!!!!
Looks like only 503 derailed. I was watching a video where CSX (?) was picking up from a industrial siding where only could pull cars at around 5 mph. some days.
As Gomer Pyle would say SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE.. Good to see 501 & 503
Homer lyle
Tom is gay
Need to quit running 3 axles on that sub standard track
I think it is time for ELS to get some money from the state to do some rehabilating the line. New rails and ties would be a huge plus!
As always, ELS needs to replace many problematic defects or possibly add cwr to increase track speeds and help with track conditions.
I think they said it “split the switch”. Sometimes that happens when the switch handle isn’t hard over and locked
Picked the switch. If the adjustment isn't tight, the switch stand moves the two pieces of rail, but if there is slop, the wheel flanges can "pick" and open up the switch rail away from the stock rail. At that point, at least that axle, if not the whole truck and subsequent trucks, will end up seeing the rails go out of gauge (because the stock rail on one side goes that way, while the stock rail on the other side goes the other way, widening apart), leaving nowhere for the axles to go except down onto the ground.
In addition to having to send out a crew to re-rail the cars or locos that dropped wheels off the rails, they will want to have the road foreman, or his appointed section foreman (or subordinate) inspect the switch for damage. If no damage, likely it will require adjusting and a servicing (oiling or greasing the slideways where the steel rails are moved sideways when the switch is thrown).
It's usually a qualified track inspector who would look at any track issue to determine if the switch repair is necessary.
good train video
Thank you very much!
Everything Leaking & Shoddy
Ah, the struggles of a Class 3 railroad
A derailment on the ELS who would have thought
Wonderful video, as for #1221 I saw posted on Facebook it was in an Exchange yard I thought in Wisconsin, about two days ago! ?a CN yard?
Correct, CN North Green Bay yard. E&LS interchanges there regularly.
Pulling out 5 cars with 2 engines. Seemed a little overboard. lol
No track maintenance whatsoever.
lol conductor tying hand brakes making sure everything perfect before management comes out 🤣🤣🤣
"The points were not right, it came off with a fright, and a hand had to spend some time putting it back on the rails again".
A third world railroad right here.
In the third world countries they tear up the tracks and sell them for scrap. Just look at S. Africa after their 'restructuring'
i once had a dear friend who had worked for years on railroads. when it snowed heavily, and they didn't want to go out and sweep the switches, they would derail a car so that the yard would be closed.
So much for a work ethic. I despise people like your friend making work for others so they can rest their own lazy backsides.
@neilrobertson811 The railroad screwed her out of her retirement by working her 30 and 40 days straight as a dispatcher. when a dispatcher makes a mistake, which causes a fatality, they, not the company, are charged with murder. She was forced to quit her job due to fear and exhaustion, and she didn't have the wherewithal to fight the railroad. Go judge yourself.
@@harridan. Everyone has a sob story and I don't care about the train company. How many peoples trips did she screw up through the derailment? How many of her colleagues had to work even more hours to fix what she broke? If you don't like a job then leave, its simple.
The fun and games are over now! Gov. Waltz has just vowed to “turn the dial” on rampant fraud.
Ya
Y🎉503/501 🎉🎉
I actually wonder why it derailed. First truck passed ok. Nevermind.. “picked a switch”
On a side note..train flanges are too small. All it takes is 1” of wheel lift for whatever reason and down goes the wheel.
Why isnt 1221. Allowed on CN trackage?or south of Crivitz?
Per comments from RR employees past and present. They lost their trust with facts. lol
It's to old per CN rules and class 1 regulations.
Ex-Milw Rd SD40-2 in the lead.
18:00 It sounds like he is saying “dump it” as opposed to stop it.
But once it’s on the ground, anything meaning stop is the correct way of saying stop.
dump it is probably the best term to use, its the most clear way to have a sense of urgency without creating panic while getting the message across to dump the air brakes
Wonder if 1221 & 502 are due for their 92-day inspections.
They only grabbed 5 cars in Green Bay.
Good catch Jay. Bad day for E&LS. Ya might wanna get a helmet when chain sawing something that could send the sawyer to ER or worse. Have a great day and Bsafe.
We're all volunteers.
For the first 2 minutes one can hear a clunking sound in the background and apparently that is the shredder chewing up old Automobiles and the like so great sound effects. No doubt once the dust settled they probably were thinking maybe we should have sorted this back in Pembine or Crivitz (but that might have been too crowded at the latter) While luckily they didn't wind up in the mess but having the Hazmat tanker and the center beam flat on that siding did not help they might have even had more gons than the capacity of the siding but it looked like they had a long NOKL gon for the ore service whenever that is supposed to happen
Did they get 503 rerailed, and the switch fixed yet? Not offen you get a derailment, while filming a train.
Nah this is ELS, happens all the time on this railroad.
Whoopsy.
why's it weird? are the other engines regular ones that show up every day? SO many questions!
They should've cleared the switch when they had a chance
Why is it when i watch this i hear benny hills theme song. Lmao
sharpen the chain on that saw
If it were mine. lol
Just found and subscribed to hyour channel.
Really cool hearing the radio chatter.
Welcome aboard!
Oh wow it derailed at the scrap yard. Was that Tuesday train?
Jason. I believe you mentioned that you have a shop on Etsy for that Yooperlite you harvest up there at the lake. Can you specify the name of your shop so I get the right one? My wife is into that stuff.
Search for "LakeShoreEmberlites" - one word.
odd they don't check their trains before heading out.. headlights burned out should have been replaced due to safety.
What the E & L Inferior Railroad needs to do is completely upgrade their tracks and rail bedding so trains can properly use it. Enough of cars that almost wiggle and wobble off the tracks even at turtle-paced speed. How embarrassing for a railroad to be in such a poor overall condition! The board that oversees railroad safety should shut the entire system down including all sidings until satisfactory improvements are made. What a joke!
Been saying that for a while now. As busy as this line is it would be a lot better overall to rework all the trackage and beds.
You’re talking about millions of dollars.
Hundreds of millions possibly billions@@denisberger9657
That's a huge investment to lay out. With the tracks allowed to fall to the condition they're in presently, the easiest solution is to defer the maintenance, and put a 10 mph restriction on the poor section. The train can still negotiate rough track, and even if something does go wrong at 10 mph, the damage won't be nearly as catastrophic as it would be at 50mph or above. So, rather than pour money that they really don't have available, that is the solution. It takes all day for the train to get around, but they have money in the account to fuel up the locos, pay the employees, keep the lights on, pay the taxes, etc. You would need to sign some heavy-duty contracts guaranteeing a lot of work (and thus a lot of revenue) before the track owners would consider dumping huge sums into upgrading to better road conditions. With a bunch of additional traffic, they would need to to keep the line from becoming congested with creepy-crawling trains, so they might send in the crews to change selected ties, a few sticks of rail here and there, and maybe get the conditions good enough to handle 25 or 30 mph trains. But, this is a small company, slowly shedding customers as time goes by. They only put in the bare minimum needed to keep the trains up on the steel. If ten mph gets the job done, that is all that is needed. It's not a mainline where every 15 minutes some 12,000 ton train needs to blast by doing 55 mph.
Are you going to donate the money?
Quite the variety of cars in this manifest...
Interesting they decided to do the reblocking of the CB at Alter... then again, if they are dropping it at LP mill on way to Channing, why not? LOL....
Crazy how you can see the trailing truck on 503 climb the rails and drop inside the gauge. That happens even at BNSF, UP, NS, CN, etc....
Google earth would show you if there are two tracks back there …. Stay tuned for next episode “did they derail” ?!?!? 🤷♂️
Enjoy tree work, nice cool day to be outside
Just one as of the photo date of 2024
So many small rail systems like this don't generate enough revenue to maintain their trackage. Considering the trillions of dollars the government throws away on foreign aid it seems like something could be done to help maintain these lines before they disappear. So many lines that were abandoned during the last 40 years are now needed.
The railroads today don't want to stop at the towns that made the railroad. They want to haul 120 cars from point A to point B and never stop. They forgot where they got their start.
Right... foreign aid... Look at you laying down for your corporate masters.
LOL. $63 billion in foreign aid last year, around 1% of the federal budget.
12/21 is next month...
Do you have a Defect Detector❓
And it said Stop it
no
they sure have issues with the tracks up there. Wasn't there a derail not long ago not far from there?
If you are referring to the derailment near Pound, WI in August?
@@BudmanPackfan that is the one
18:00.the get down
You know it doesn't surprise me much when these short-lines RR have derailment. When you don't reinvest money in upgrading the tracks they use, it is only matter of time. Again I can't blame these short-line RR they don't have deep pockets to keep them in tip top shape. With that said there is no reason why big 5 RR don't reinvest money into their miles of lines that criss-cross the Nation. Just saying.
Split Switch - rail track is 3rd world!
It picked the switch.
Did sabashtan young play with the switches
That means the switch was not hard over!
Are you saying the rail road had the nerve to swap out locomotives, without consulting you first.
Tell me you're an idiot with out saying it.
Suggest that those viewers who are critical of ELS operations try managing a railroad first. It's not an easy job, especially considering the constraints of regulation, state law, operating rules, air brake rules, customer needs, budget, etc.
SO before commenting about a locomotive dropping onto the ground, people MUST manage a RR first? LMFAO
You forgot costs $!
That’s apart of railroading
Where was that at
Attack Dr crossin
State St crossing, Kingsford.
Jason are you still on strike against remington?lol
LMAO
Just teasing I'm on strike from Mon through fri.enjoy your vids bro.👍🙏
You can see the derailment when it happens in the video. It looked like it was 503, yet he checked 501 as he went by it.
Yes, It was at 18:00, it looks like the orange one derailed.
I guarantee if something bad happens your going to say just about anything to stop what is going on.
Sounds like they picked the switch…..
DE N2JYG
Oops…
MOUTH BREATHERS JUMPED THE SWITCH…. 😂😂
ELS joke of a railroad
I'd love to help monetize your channel, but I can't find it in me to sit through fifteen minute ads.
I know you will understand.
lmao
Wasn't 1221 in greenbay??cn yard??
Yes
Timber!
Hey Jason !! Wasn't 503 that derailed there B/4 ???? Thanks for the video & Stay Warm !!!
ON, NOT awn
It fell of the rails.No big deal.Fix it
_Stop it. Stop it._ What the heck is that?
The uniformly accepted command used to tell an engineer to stop is *"That'll do!"* not "Stop it." This must be a _very_ inexperienced crew.
at 5:23 did I hear the engineer acknowledge with a "10-4?" Most roads the response is "Roger."
Plug it in emergency or plug er
In an emergency you'd use different terms.
different in an emergency situation, you don't say "that'll do" when you have a derailment.
@@HannibalXoner Yes, you do…if you keep your cool, remain professional, and don’t panic.
I guess only train experts watch this channel. You assume your audience knows something about what is going on. 6 minutes into it and I’m still trying to figure it out.
I guess most of there rail service customers in iron mountain and kingsford must use the bridge in quinesec verses following us 2 into iron mountain as I never see that section of rail used for a while now.