Accidentally discovered, but Congratulations on your videos, and effectively demistifying the R5 for us. I can see you steadily improving on your candid content creation and soon getting a good following from us lesser mortal clubmen. However, i would also be interested in hearing what you learnt over the ownership of your EVO. Pros and cons, and perhaps what you would say to someone looking to get a Grp-N one. Or any other relevant advise for that matter. As in an earlier video it was scary you likening the running costs of your EVO-6 to the R5! 😢
There are not many Channels who actually show how it is to own and operate a rally car in general, glad I randomly discovered your channel. Learning all those small Details about a proper R5 Car is very interesting. In most channels they never go in depth like that.
Great content as ever Richard! Start procedure a bit like a 6R4- but that was a winding handle on to the pump directly if my memory serves me correctly! Progress, progress! Do you intend to use the car on gravel or are you purely of the tarmac disposition? A set up video re geometry / ride height etc would be fab as / when that’s required? Great video, thanks again for taking the time to post 👍👍
Thanks Ashley. In my escort I did the same really, but had the fuel pumps off to get pressure. I don't have a gravel kit and I am not intending to use the car on gravel, so it will be a tarmac only car; which is my preferred discipline. I will be having corner weighting and set up carried out soon, so will cover this accordingly. Thank you for your comment and for following the channel.
One of my favorite hobbies is tuning, and generally messing about with vintage European mopeds. (Yes, with the pedal cranks. Puch, Kreidler, Peugeot, Motobecane, etc.) I only very recently got a very good deal on a 2017 Fiesta (Just stock non-turbo SE, with the dual clutch automatic trans) I'm quickly becoming obsessed with her... ..And she's not turbo, or manual...or tuned... 😄
@@Richard_Weaver I haven't personally worked with any scooters, but I have a soft spot for some of those small 80's scooters. My best friend is a member of Motor City Riot here in Detroit, and some of those folks have a few cool scooters. The Vision has really cool looking wheels, and plastics. My favorite bike, is the Puch X30 with the speed-holed and dimple-died fuel tank. I've got a 70cc DMP piston port cylinder, Rito crank, japanese bearings, viton seals, 15mm authentic Bing, Jamarcol fire pipe, and this and that else. ..my dream truck? Puch Haflinger, set up as a mini overlander...
@@Richard_Weaver About my SE, btw, I still have to treat it just like every manual, instead of how we typically drive any non DCT automatics, even when I'm not in sport mode, and selecting gears manually. Give her some decent throttle off the line, let off briefly, and continue accelerating, just like is required with all manuals. People complain that they shudder at slow speeds, and think their transmission is messed up....except they don't at all, and it's not..once you understand how they work, and operate them correctly. They behave in most ways, like a manual, even in automatic.
In the series/rallies which you compete, are you allowed to use the Mk7.5 Fiesta WRC (what would now be considered/classed as Rally 1) rear wing? Since they grant you paddle shifters, I am guessing that you could get away with that as well. Of course the strict homologation stickler, Euro rallies will not allow either of the above.
The paddle shift is the WRC M-sport kit. It’s not homologated, so if you go abroad or do international championships then it doesn’t fit into their class system. That’s said, they let you run the car in the rally. I’m not interested in championships and just do rallies ad-hoc, so provided they let you run (which they all do) then it’s not an issue. Everything in the UK is fine anyway. Going abroad means changing to the 32mm restrictor from the 34mm. But that’s easy enough. Glad you’re liking the content. 🙌🏻
@@Richard_Weaver thanks for reply yes why they don’t let rally 1 and rally 2/ 5 have paddle shift I can never understand why it’s a safety item got to be safer with both hands on the wheel.
It was always to keep costs down. The cars were supposed to be around €190,000 inc VAT. The work around for the factories to get the prices up, being of course, the evo kits and upgrades. So if you want to be competitive, you need all that. The real figure is nearer €250,000 or more with the VAT
Another super cool video! What’s it like to do insurance on? I used to go and find the reg of cars for sale and go on compare the market to see what quotes it’d give but it always seemed very confused when finding information about the car 😂
You need to have dedicated competition insurance for these vehicles. I use David Auden Associates. However there are other like Ryan Motorsport Insurance and REIS. My insurance is nearly a grand, but that’s due to the value in part. I also have international road section cover for using the car on rallies with liaison mileage on open public highway. That also bumps it up.
Hi Richard so I have many questions 😂 Who looks after the Mechanical side of things? Because I guess it’s not as if you can pop down the road for an Oil filter etc! What fuel do you run and how do you re fill? as don’t they have to weird connections in the boot?! Do you have many spares? Who do you take with the knowledge on Service crew? Grown up with Rallying and would absolutely love an R5 Car amongst many other things 😂
Hi mate. We do some of the mechanical ourselves. Oil is 10/60w fully synthetic. The oil filter is a Mercedes road car item; available from the factors. I have a few spares like shafts and brake discs/pads. Fuel is covered in the video at about 7:50. Service crew, I use a few people and it often depends on who is already going to the event. I’ve used SW Motorsport, Rallyworld, Major Motorsport, Neil Weaver (no relation) and in Belgium Andes Motorsport and ASD. Some of the preparation I get done by the UK guys too👍🏻
So nice when local DOT approves even motorsport/rally car... As opposed to my country... A weld in cage for group N rally car would fail inspection and deemed illegal for road use car/mot.. 🤣🤣🤣
@@Richard_Weaver nice. 💪 Also abit sad that my local rally event pretty much dead since a couple years ago. Before covid even.. Still looking for the right time and budget to revive my group N proton satria rally car... Or maybe looking into buying s1600 spec satria from uk and bring it back here... 😹
Yes. They do. I am good friends with a guy who has a hydraulics firm; very experienced and been in the game a long time. We’ve been through it all and there is no way of getting them any cheaper as they are a special fitting. So you have to cough up. Annoying!!
@@KiG1208 I'd question the value of the wing, in terms of performance, at his level of motorsport, and I would sooner put the money towards the upkeep of the car. They look cool, but I don't think it would help me to go faster. I could however be quire wrong!
Out of interest do they have to go through the exact same mot test as normal car or is there a competition mot for them. Obviously no airbag, standard belts ect. Converting a civic at the moment to rally car and is one of my first jobs to do
Yes. They go through the same test. I’m never 100% sure what the exact regulations are, but I think you just have to take it to the right MOT stations so you don’t get hassle. I’ve always had good contact with the motor trade. The cars are perfectly road legal, but some MOT stations do not understand them in the same way as others. My suggestion would be to ask rally people local to you where they take their cars. It would be worth going out of your way to find a sympathetic tester.
@@Richard_Weaver hope I don’t have any hassle. Also have good relationship with mot station as mechanic in a garage myself. Just things like emissions I know it will not pass. Everything else shouldn’t really be an issue. You doing any circuit rallies over the winter?
Airbags are a construction and use requirement, for mass produced vehicles, and an MOT basically only checks the airbag warning light on those. I think low production vehicles either have less strict regulations that don’t require airbags, or go through an IVA test for their registration, which has no requirement for an airbag to be fitted.
Accidentally discovered, but Congratulations on your videos, and effectively demistifying the R5 for us. I can see you steadily improving on your candid content creation and soon getting a good following from us lesser mortal clubmen. However, i would also be interested in hearing what you learnt over the ownership of your EVO. Pros and cons, and perhaps what you would say to someone looking to get a Grp-N one. Or any other relevant advise for that matter. As in an earlier video it was scary you likening the running costs of your EVO-6 to the R5! 😢
That’s a great topic. I’ll try to cover that one. Neither are cheap!
Also, I’m just a ordinary clubman like all the field 👍🏻 shout out to the guys and girls who make up the entire field from front to back. 👌🏻
There are not many Channels who actually show how it is to own and operate a rally car in general, glad I randomly discovered your channel.
Learning all those small Details about a proper R5 Car is very interesting. In most channels they never go in depth like that.
Thanks. That is pretty much exactly what I want to achieve with the channel 👍🏻👍🏻
Richard , thanks for this channel, watching from NZ, fascinating insight to R5 costs/fun! Keep up the great work, cheers
Big thanks. Will do. Keep ‘er lit down under 🙌🏻
Keep this sort of content coming on how to use the R5 etc.... Ive seen loads of people shared the running costs video on facebook etc
Oh blimey! That’s good of them. Glad people are enjoying the content. Thanks
Excellent video. Enjoyable and informative insight in to running an R5 Fiesta. Great car and content.
Jolly kind of you. Thanks 🙏🏻
Would love to hear the sound of the original horn! 🤣 Keep up the good work, really enjoying these videos.
In the bin!!
more 1st gear engagement clunks PLEASE......love this vlog, you rarely ever get to see a R5/WRC car in this manner, keep it up
Thanks so much. I’ll definitely keep it up! 🙌🏻 Have to agree, 1st gear clunks are 👌🏻😎
Great content as ever Richard! Start procedure a bit like a 6R4- but that was a winding handle on to the pump directly if my memory serves me correctly!
Progress, progress!
Do you intend to use the car on gravel or are you purely of the tarmac disposition?
A set up video re geometry / ride height etc would be fab as / when that’s required?
Great video, thanks again for taking the time to post 👍👍
Thanks Ashley. In my escort I did the same really, but had the fuel pumps off to get pressure. I don't have a gravel kit and I am not intending to use the car on gravel, so it will be a tarmac only car; which is my preferred discipline. I will be having corner weighting and set up carried out soon, so will cover this accordingly. Thank you for your comment and for following the channel.
Can we please have some Anti lag.....
A drive through McDonalds maybe with Anti lag.😮😂😂😂
Antilag yes. McDonald’s, not so sure…lol
@@Richard_Weaver maybe waitrose car park then.....😂😂🙏🙏
@@Richard_Weaver ps.
Love watching your videos!!!
Super! Thanks very much.
I second McDonalds😂
One of my favorite hobbies is tuning, and generally messing about with vintage European mopeds. (Yes, with the pedal cranks. Puch, Kreidler, Peugeot, Motobecane, etc.) I only very recently got a very good deal on a 2017 Fiesta (Just stock non-turbo SE, with the dual clutch automatic trans) I'm quickly becoming obsessed with her... ..And she's not turbo, or manual...or tuned... 😄
You like the 1989 Honda Vision? No pedals, sadly…
@@Richard_Weaver I haven't personally worked with any scooters, but I have a soft spot for some of those small 80's scooters. My best friend is a member of Motor City Riot here in Detroit, and some of those folks have a few cool scooters. The Vision has really cool looking wheels, and plastics. My favorite bike, is the Puch X30 with the speed-holed and dimple-died fuel tank. I've got a 70cc DMP piston port cylinder, Rito crank, japanese bearings, viton seals, 15mm authentic Bing, Jamarcol fire pipe, and this and that else. ..my dream truck? Puch Haflinger, set up as a mini overlander...
@@Richard_Weaver About my SE, btw, I still have to treat it just like every manual, instead of how we typically drive any non DCT automatics, even when I'm not in sport mode, and selecting gears manually. Give her some decent throttle off the line, let off briefly, and continue accelerating, just like is required with all manuals. People complain that they shudder at slow speeds, and think their transmission is messed up....except they don't at all, and it's not..once you understand how they work, and operate them correctly. They behave in most ways, like a manual, even in automatic.
In the series/rallies which you compete, are you allowed to use the Mk7.5 Fiesta WRC (what would now be considered/classed as Rally 1) rear wing?
Since they grant you paddle shifters, I am guessing that you could get away with that as well.
Of course the strict homologation stickler, Euro rallies will not allow either of the above.
I think I’d be ok with the WRC wing, but I don’t know.
I see you have paddle shift did you fit it what class do you run it in .really like your channel great deal of interesting content ❤
The paddle shift is the WRC M-sport kit. It’s not homologated, so if you go abroad or do international championships then it doesn’t fit into their class system. That’s said, they let you run the car in the rally. I’m not interested in championships and just do rallies ad-hoc, so provided they let you run (which they all do) then it’s not an issue. Everything in the UK is fine anyway. Going abroad means changing to the 32mm restrictor from the 34mm. But that’s easy enough.
Glad you’re liking the content. 🙌🏻
@@Richard_Weaver thanks for reply yes why they don’t let rally 1 and rally 2/ 5 have paddle shift I can never understand why it’s a safety item got to be safer with both hands on the wheel.
It was always to keep costs down. The cars were supposed to be around €190,000 inc VAT. The work around for the factories to get the prices up, being of course, the evo kits and upgrades. So if you want to be competitive, you need all that. The real figure is nearer €250,000 or more with the VAT
Another super cool video! What’s it like to do insurance on? I used to go and find the reg of cars for sale and go on compare the market to see what quotes it’d give but it always seemed very confused when finding information about the car 😂
You need to have dedicated competition insurance for these vehicles. I use David Auden Associates. However there are other like Ryan Motorsport Insurance and REIS. My insurance is nearly a grand, but that’s due to the value in part. I also have international road section cover for using the car on rallies with liaison mileage on open public highway. That also bumps it up.
@@Richard_Weaver mine is nearly a grand for a 1L ecoboost Fiesta road car, dread to think what it’d be for an R5 😂
I’m old mate 🤣🤣
@@Richard_Weaver 😂 at 25 I expected it to go down a bit but apparently not 😂
The rigours of youth.
Hi Richard so I have many questions 😂
Who looks after the Mechanical side of things? Because I guess it’s not as if you can pop down the road for an Oil filter etc!
What fuel do you run and how do you re fill? as don’t they have to weird connections in the boot?!
Do you have many spares?
Who do you take with the knowledge on Service crew?
Grown up with Rallying and would absolutely love an R5 Car amongst many other things 😂
Hi mate. We do some of the mechanical ourselves. Oil is 10/60w fully synthetic. The oil filter is a Mercedes road car item; available from the factors. I have a few spares like shafts and brake discs/pads.
Fuel is covered in the video at about 7:50. Service crew, I use a few people and it often depends on who is already going to the event. I’ve used SW Motorsport, Rallyworld, Major Motorsport, Neil Weaver (no relation) and in Belgium Andes Motorsport and ASD. Some of the preparation I get done by the UK guys too👍🏻
@@Richard_WeaverWhat Belgian rallies are you going to do next season?
Hi Michiel, I don’t know to be honest. I might have a look at Monteberg
@@Richard_Weaver Dry sumps are disallowed in R5/Rally 2, correct?
@LS1conehead that’s correct as far as I know.
Would you do a proper walk round of the car?
Sure. I’ll get to that and ping it as a short perhaps.
@@Richard_Weaver Awesome
Very interesting video's
Glad you think so!
So nice when local DOT approves even motorsport/rally car...
As opposed to my country... A weld in cage for group N rally car would fail inspection and deemed illegal for road use car/mot.. 🤣🤣🤣
We are lucky here - we can pretty much do what we like. Cars over 40 years don't even need an MOT now!
@@Richard_Weaver nice. 💪
Also abit sad that my local rally event pretty much dead since a couple years ago. Before covid even..
Still looking for the right time and budget to revive my group N proton satria rally car...
Or maybe looking into buying s1600 spec satria from uk and bring it back here... 😹
@@AmirPomen whereabouts are you?
Those fittings look very suspiciously like the £30 fittings on the back of a tractor.
Yes. They do. I am good friends with a guy who has a hydraulics firm; very experienced and been in the game a long time. We’ve been through it all and there is no way of getting them any cheaper as they are a special fitting. So you have to cough up. Annoying!!
Since you are running the R5 plus kit, why not the wrc wing?
An unnecessary expense! They do look super cool however.
@@Richard_Weaver Ok, you think the WRC wing doesn't give much performance gains for its price?
@@KiG1208 I'd question the value of the wing, in terms of performance, at his level of motorsport, and I would sooner put the money towards the upkeep of the car. They look cool, but I don't think it would help me to go faster. I could however be quire wrong!
@@Richard_Weaver ahh ok Gotchya!
What cats on it?
It’s a cat in the tail pipe of the exhaust. I don’t know what exactly, but it’s specific to M-sport
Out of interest do they have to go through the exact same mot test as normal car or is there a competition mot for them. Obviously no airbag, standard belts ect. Converting a civic at the moment to rally car and is one of my first jobs to do
Yes. They go through the same test. I’m never 100% sure what the exact regulations are, but I think you just have to take it to the right MOT stations so you don’t get hassle. I’ve always had good contact with the motor trade. The cars are perfectly road legal, but some MOT stations do not understand them in the same way as others. My suggestion would be to ask rally people local to you where they take their cars. It would be worth going out of your way to find a sympathetic tester.
@@Richard_Weaver hope I don’t have any hassle. Also have good relationship with mot station as mechanic in a garage myself. Just things like emissions I know it will not pass. Everything else shouldn’t really be an issue. You doing any circuit rallies over the winter?
I’ll do Brands Hatch mate. Find me on Facebook and drop me a message 👍🏻
@@Richard_Weaver cheers bud, will do
Airbags are a construction and use requirement, for mass produced vehicles, and an MOT basically only checks the airbag warning light on those.
I think low production vehicles either have less strict regulations that don’t require airbags, or go through an IVA test for their registration, which has no requirement for an airbag to be fitted.
Must surprise people who assume it’s just a Max Powered fezza.
If you know, you know! I actually hate driving the thing on the road partly for that reason.
14:06 lmaoo
The crushing reality.
@@Richard_Weaver What matters is finishing 🏁
Yes. I quite agree!!
Can I ask which rally you did as car 1
I’ve been car 1 a few times.
2 x Southdowns stages
1 x Bovington
1 x Abingdon
@@Richard_Weaver cool I'm going to have a watch. Mk1 looks good can you do a walk round of that?
I can do, but is in Scotland at the moment 😂
@@Richard_Weaver does Andrew Sanky co drive for you?
No. I haven’t had a regular Co-driver for a while now.
I know PX14HUY all to well if I’m honest
lol. That doesn’t sound very positive! 😂