@@ChesterTester Legally, it does constitute as theft, since it is copyright infringement. RUclips has an entire system set up to allow copyright holders to remove videos like this. I’m sure you know this.
Jenny: *wears full star wars cosplay, clearly homemade* Some guy: ah yes I must familiarise this person with the basic structure of the star wars franchise
To be fair, that's from a video where she and Bailey went to a Star Wars con feigning complete ignorance of Star Wars for laughs. That clip doesn't really belong here.
Pretty much everybody involved is taking all this shit way too far, her included. That's America... using media to construct a personality... "Consume product, get excited for next product." -Jay Bauman.
@@Virjunior01 you mean that thing she got a career in entertainment out of? gee, what a waste of time... she should be judging people in the RUclips comments instead.
@@petrelli231 nah. It's probably not healthy. After all... watch the video. Money is not worth your health. This is a bad situation. Sure she's doing what she does, but there's still something sad about a person sitting in their room talking to the aether. It may be therapeutic to a degree, but latching onto fandom after fandom to this degree is a bit disturbing when you see it happen over and over again. It's like... your livelihood DEPENDS on consuming media.
Right? I can’t get over it. Like how much of a magnet is she for condescending male geeks that she managed to find one at a niche defunct theme park in the middle of the desert
"To be fair, that's from a video where she and Bailey went to a Star Wars con feigning complete ignorance of Star Wars for laughs. That clip doesn't really belong here." - Rodanguirus
It's funny because Jenny was even a featured panel host at one of the conventions, that's how much she was part of the fandom. Still not enough to not get gatekept. Occupational hazard of being a woman, I guess.
@@ChesterTester 1. I don't know what video this is from but I didn't think this was a pony convention since the dude is dressed up like Obi-Wan. Was Jenny a featured panel host at a star wars convention? I mean good for her but I'm not sure why. 2. Would the guy automatically know each and every host of every panel? 3. Again, *again*, there's nothing here indicating that this is gendered instead of the guy being awkward. Why are you inserting that in? Sure we live ina misogynist world but maybe you should treat this as a "red flag" instead of definite proof? Dude is probably just naturally an awkward dude.
@@yeed2945 Sorry, I thought that was in response to another comment thread on here, about the last guy. We can all agree the first guy is an absolute asshole.
For people who tend to normally complain about woman not being into their hobbies, they sure seem to try really hard to make sure woman who are into their hobbies don't exist in their mind.
It's because if they do meet a woman with the same interest as them, they are faced with the fact that women may actually be equal to them and that you can actually interact with them like they're human beings and not sex objects, and that is too much to handle.
There was a study on this. The guys who are hostile to women are the guys who themselves are insecure about their abilities. The guys of middling ability in games are the one who are really nasty to women newbies. The really good ones actually were nice. Being a jerk is a skill issue.
As someone with an OC, the appropriate response when asked about your character is to word salad their entire lore at the poor sucker who asked Edit: now that you’re all here, let me tell you about my original charact-
As someone who had a friend with Hetalia OCs in highschool, this is absolutely correct. Every lunch she would tell me the chapters she was planning on writing and her characterizations of the US states and other nations’ cities and that NY was dating Moscow and it was very cute (I drew Moscow for her because I thought he was absolutely adorable)
Every single person I've ever met who plays wants to talk about their D&D character, and it always takes a bit of prompting but the word salad eventually comes out. It's so much fun hearing how passionate people are about their creations
I still cant understand how Jenny got mansplained to at bronycon like she wasnt a VERY well known person in the community, she was a PANELIST at one point too. Like how???
I'm a little unsure on the timeline of when she did Friendship is Witchcraft, but that conversation happened at the very first Bronycon? So maybe she wasn't horse famous yet
I really wish she would hit them back like "Oh, you've never heard of me, Jenny Nicholson, who's made hours long essays on the topic?? Fake RUclips fan smh"
@Awawawa CM no it’s still patronizing that’s what op was saying. The dude isn’t being helpful it’s still creepy and misguided. You don’t have to have encyclopedic knowledge of a fandom to be allowed to go to a con If they were reading as conventionally nerdy dudes, they wouldn’t have gotten this treatment. Guy sure is a close talker.
@@Lucifersfursona dude, he looks like hes maybe not the smartest guy and if they were faking not knowing the star wars plot he was just giving them a brief outline innocently. He's just old and weird looking so you assume he's creepy.
Once a guy tried flirting with me by saying he’d “Be the Luke to my Leia before they knew they were siblings” and I just stared at him for a whole second like, “Wow.. She has a whole ass husband but you decided to talk about the incest.” To stay on-theme with the video, this same guy then called me a fake Star Wars fan for saying my favorite movie in the series was Rogue One because heavens forbid anyone likes anything new.
Side note: how is not knowing one specific person’s OC a knock against a person as a fan of a franchise? Lots of people are fans but not heavily involved in fandom, or may even be extremely involved (like Jenny) but the internet is a big place and not everyone is going to know all the little goings on about a fandom. Let’s say even if this guy had a big following in his circle of fandom; why does not being in that circle of fandom mean she’s not a “real fan” of the franchise? Even if we were to accept that there were “fake fans”, not knowing about a fandom element doesn’t make you less of a fan of a franchise. The “logic” of the argument is baffling to me.
Sounds to me like the guy has a hilariously over inflated opinion of himself. So one's a real fan of the franchise if they haven't heard of some random dipshit's OC character? Gimme a break.
You're reading too much into it, it wasn't supposed to make sense it was literally just him saying whatever to be rude and dismissive, at her expense to make other people laugh.
The way I interpreted it was that he heard Jenny say “who’s this pony?” and assumed she was asking if it’s a character in the show, which would indicate that she didn’t know the show well enough to tell that it was an OC. Obviously he was a douchebag either way, but his response makes a bit more sense that way.
She was also the writer of Friendship is Witchcraft, one of the most popular MLP fan works so the first one is hilarious too... wait, am I gatekeeping being a Jenny Nicholson fan?
Wow, it sucks that gatekeeping is still such a thing. I feel bad that Jenny has had to run into that on so many occasions. That last guy reminds me of the time I went to an anime con and cosplayed as Mikuru from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, only for some dude passing me in the stairway to stop me and criticize my outfit because "I should be wearing my hair in pigtails because the's how she wears it and my boobs need to be bigger to really look like the character." She only wears her hair like that in the first episode while wearing a totally different outfit than the standard school uniform she wears for almost EVERY EPISODE AFTER that I was cosplaying. Also, sorry that I was a flat-chested teenager who could only stuff a D-cup bra so much. I politely nodded and agreed at the time rather than call him out, because I had no idea how to address that sudden weirdness.
I'm so sorry that happened to you! I totally understand why you just kinda brushed it off at the time, and I've definitely done the same thing. If you ever go to cons in future, decent ones should all have very clear anti-harassment policies these days. So hopefully if something similar happens again, you'll feel able to get a better resolution. Dudes like that need to get out of public fandom spaces if they can't stop making them gross for other people.
At my first job when I was 18 one of my middle aged male coworkers was having a conversation in front of my desk and he couldn't remember the name of The Addams Family. I said it to help him and he looked me up and down and said "Yeah have you even watched it? How old are you again? 12? You're 12." Broooo
For that kind of guy, everything is a competition, help is always considered a menace. Especially if you're a woman or younger than them, and you were both.
Yeah that's how I felt too, his explanation reminded me of my autistic friends because it was really matter-of-fact and detailed without a condescending tone
that last guy just strikes me as lonely, like he's been wanting to tell someone this for a long time edit: HOLY FUCKING SHIT the comments under this got so fucking weird. I'm not saying mansplaining doesn't exist, merely that I've had guys talk to me this way and I've seen guys like this so I believe in this specific case, loneliness is likely the primary motivation for this guy to say this stuff. That is literally it. Also to the people acting like mansplaining in this context is some evil misogynistic thing, might I remind you that you have the ability to literally just walk away.
Yeah a lot of people accused of mansplaining are really people who just *really* enjoy explaining things or teaching people things and gender doesn't have much to do with it. Sometimes they explain thigns that people already know because of not really having the best idea of what people do and don't know. I have the same problem. I'll talk your ear off if you're a girl or a guy.
@@seanicus100 I think the issue is the assumption that she wouldn’t know that already. Like, she is there at a Star Wars thing. What about her makes him think she wouldn’t be aware of the surface level story of Star Wars? It very much seems like a gender thing. If not that it can sometimes be a non-neurotypical person who just really likes a thing, so I find it best to not jump the gun on accusations like that until the behavior becomes gatekeepy and harmful.
@@dstinnettmusic So you went from saying this is probably a gender thing to then giving a plausible explanation to his behavior and then admitting you were wrong to assume it was a gender thing. Yeah.
Idk why he would be dying to tell someone this, all he's talking about is how the first two trilogies are ordered. That's pretty basic information, which makes me believe that he was either being purposefully condescending or trying to be "helpful," because clearly girls wouldn't know something so simple about Star Wars.
Whenever a guy tries to mansplain my own hobbies and interests to me, I fully lean into their misogynistic beliefs and play dumb. It's of no consequence to me because they already thought I was dumb but it's fun seeing them get exceedingly frustrated the longer the conversation goes on. "Wow, look at that Zelda cosplayer!" *points at Link*
HAHAH I DO THE SAME THING!!! I LOVE calling vault boy other things like "atomic boy," "nuclear boy," or "fall out boy" just to see misogynistic nerds get more and more angry. It's also just really funny to see they can't tell i'm joking/trolling because I have clear knowledge of whatever I was talking about earlier in the convo so there's no way I wouldn't know vault boy's name, but then I love to play dumb to see their veins bulge out of their foreheads
Does the last one really count? The whole point of the "Con Artists" videos was the two of them getting into character as "fake fans" who knew nothing about the series.
@@ChesterTester mansplaining implies an assumption of a woman not knowing something based off the fact that they're a woman. But if the whole point is her pretending that she doesn't know something, him explaining it to her just makes it seem like he's a really passionate fan who wants to share his interests with someone.
So apparently the concept of the video that came from was them actually pretending to be clueless cosplayers. There wasn't really context given for that scene, but I'm willing to give the guy a pass, considering the premise of the video.
My EX brother in law used to do this all the time with me. I said at passing a theory about gollum...and he fucking called me to explain to me how I was wrong. Then he realized (a hardcore LOTR fans for 20 years) what the tolkien symbol was and came to tell me "what is it?" and I realized eons before, reading it recently...and he got angry. Like really so. A 30 year old bag of hair and fat, still living with his mom, throwing a tantrum over some 17 year old girl knowing something he did not. It was shocking to experience.
As a woman, I can confirm this does happen, but it can easily just be squashed by acting assertive. Standing there and listening to them mansplain just boosts their ego and makes them think they’re actually teaching you something.
I can't comprehend the level of narcissism it would require to tell someone they aren't a "real fan" of the thing you like, because they've never heard of a non-canonical character that YOU made up
Whats the name of that webseries where Jenny Nicholson and other girl play a pair of "fake geek girls"? "Con Artists"? I always mix it up with the Alan Tudyk TVshow about a washed up actor from a cancelled scifi show
What strikes me is how absurd most these gatekeeping situations are. Like a lone man at an abandoned Flintstones park, a mysterious brony and his oc, and the hooded man explaining the very basic layout of the star wars chronology. It's like some sort of strange curse.
Something similiar happened to me at Coachella when I wore my Music/Band t-shirt,one of my fellow concert goer's kept on questioning if I knew any song's whatsoever.
I think I’m gonna do a thing where I go to a Star Wars convention as myself, and go the next year as someone where you can’t tell I’m female just to compare the amount of disrespect.
If someone asks you a question, and in response you turn to other people, there are only two acceptable things to say without being a jackass: 1. "Now this person just asked a great question!" (Unsarcastically, then follow up with at least one more compliment to ensure they know you're not being sarcastic) 2. "Holy shit guys I'm tripping balls; is she just in my mind or do you see her too?"
It's genuinely sad that there were adults that acted that way. Like dude, your 500 youtube subscribers, whom 12 of which are your acquaintances are the only people who know your color swapped pinkie pie
lmaooo the last guy explaining the OG trilogy and prequels like it isn't completely common knowledge even for many people who hasn't even seen the movie
I physically stole money directly from Jenny Nicholsons personal savings account and have now assumed her identity. Hello it is me, Jenny Nichols, theme parks am I right?
The star wars and flintstones dudes, ok, shitty but frankly not unexpected behaviour, nerd men being nerd men. But the MLP dude is a whole other level. Like, imagine thinking so highly of yourself just because you have an semi-popular OC based on characters from a show aimed at little girls, enough to talk down an insult a woman and laughing at her with your buddies.
If I ever get to a point in my life where I had somehow “heard of “ someone’s my little pony OC and recognized it on my own, I’ll consider my entire to have been a failure
As someone who grew up with generation 3 and in later years gen 4 as their target audience I would’ve quizzed the guy on gen 3 ponies. Not everyone’s gonna know who your OC is. 🙄
"Mf probably doesn't know the difference between version 1 Starcatcher and version 2 Starcatcher and yet he calls himself a MLP fan 😒" or for even better results, bring up any gen 1 pony that isn't Surprise, Glory, Posey, Twilight, Applejack or Firefly.
Many con attendees (across all cons) are socially awkward individuals and mansplaining, negging, gatekeeping, purity testing, etc. are some's way of interacting and conversing. Seen it so many times. I totally understand people's annoyance at this and I'm not excusing the behavior. At the same time, though, upon encountering one of these individuals, I would caution against immediately assuming malicious intent on their part.
i mean, the intent doesn't really matter. tbh, the nerdy parts of the internet go in the complete opposite direction in my experience, assuming that any shy introverted guy must also be super sweet and nice, despite their words and actions showing otherwise
Intent doesn't matter. The affect is the same. And they know what they're doing to some extent, they are adults. And people never really do this stuff "maliciously", per se, usually just to make themselves feel smart/better at the expense of someone else. Which still applies in this case. People shouldn't be given a pass based on social aptitude, as many of the women they are gatekeeping are usually quite akward and nerdy themselves.
Going to lightly disagree with the responses, intent does matter. If someone is genuinely ignorant of the fact that they are bothering others and didn't intend on it, they are able to change once they are made aware. The original poster even made the point that they aren't in any way excusing their behaviour, but to point out that not everyone doing it is "hopeless". Becoming an adult only guarantees physical maturity, there are plenty of people who are adults that are still working on their emotional/mental maturity. That said, you aren't responsible for anyone's maturity but your own.
Intent is irrelevant. If a man doesn't have the maturity to understand toxic and sexist behaviour and he treats women and others that way, he should be called out. It's not anyone's job to protect his ego or feelings. If he is acting toxic and rude out of ignorance, it means he has been raised in a world that allowed him to have a stupid amount of ignorance about interacting not like an a-hole.
Sometimes people are just too damn old to put up with their weird behavior and lack of social skills. If at the age of 30 you still can't interact with a woman in a casual setting without acting creepy or dismissing her, I don't care if you do it because you're autistic or because you were bullied on high school, I'm gonna shame you anyway
I can't get over this absolute goober seeing a girl wearing a home-made Slave Leia outfit and explaining the order of the names of the movies. I desperately hope that I never do anything as cringe as this at a convention.
with no context i thought the guy in the thumbnail was in a tallis, at shul, and like, that at least is a place where i am familiar with gatekeeping based on knowledge of lore
Why are you stealing Jenny Nichols’ videos and posting them yourself?
@@ChesterTester you should get that wheeze checked out. Could be a symptom of respiratory illness.
Jenny Nichols
This dude 100% has a development disability, and I do not mean that as an insult - I mean it for real, bruh.
@@TeeJayLars just say you're ableist and move on dude
@@ChesterTester Legally, it does constitute as theft, since it is copyright infringement. RUclips has an entire system set up to allow copyright holders to remove videos like this. I’m sure you know this.
Jenny: *wears full star wars cosplay, clearly homemade*
Some guy: ah yes I must familiarise this person with the basic structure of the star wars franchise
To be fair, that's from a video where she and Bailey went to a Star Wars con feigning complete ignorance of Star Wars for laughs. That clip doesn't really belong here.
@@Rodanguirus wow, that’s actually extremely fucking dishonest of this person to put that in this video then, damn
@@HugoGojibiter why does this reply make it sound like an end of the world thing djevsjsuv
@@Rodanguirus it does, they were pretending to be fake fans. Also, of course she knows star wars if she is in full blown star wars costume.
@@Ghilannugs I assure you that if this was somehow a world ending offence my reaction would be a bit harsher than just “how dishonest”
Full growned up adult gatekeeping my little pony from women
Pretty much everybody involved is taking all this shit way too far, her included.
That's America... using media to construct a personality...
"Consume product, get excited for next product." -Jay Bauman.
Ah.. a full circle.
@@Virjunior01 “Society is when you like things”
-Bubba the Love Sponge
@@Virjunior01 you mean that thing she got a career in entertainment out of? gee, what a waste of time... she should be judging people in the RUclips comments instead.
@@petrelli231 nah. It's probably not healthy. After all... watch the video.
Money is not worth your health. This is a bad situation. Sure she's doing what she does, but there's still something sad about a person sitting in their room talking to the aether. It may be therapeutic to a degree, but latching onto fandom after fandom to this degree is a bit disturbing when you see it happen over and over again. It's like... your livelihood DEPENDS on consuming media.
I’m sorry but gatekeeping the flintstones is so funny to me. Idk why it’s just such an un-gatekeepable franchise. It’s like gatekeeping I Love Lucy
Or Murder She Wrote. Scratch that i would kinda wanna see a Murder She Wrote superfan
@@3Demon100 sorry, my mom is dead.
ILL doesn't need to be gatekept. Icons have that advantage.
@@3Demon100 Angela lansbury is safekeeping murder she wrote. It's kinda funny she is personally stopping any attempt for spinoffs.
@@3Demon100 The closest I've seen on RUclips is PushingUpRoses
I CANNOT believe that Jenny got gatekept at an abandoned Flintstones themepark. Like, who even was that guy?
I think about that sometimes
He’s been there since the park opened as the resident gatekeeper
Hey man show some respect, He is the flinstonian archivist.
Right? I can’t get over it. Like how much of a magnet is she for condescending male geeks that she managed to find one at a niche defunct theme park in the middle of the desert
@@westernhemlock that's any woman in fandom. if you haven't experienced it, you're male. congrats lol
@@mistydayremainsofthejudgment I believe you
Fucking explaining the absolute bare bones basics of Star Wars at a Star Wars convention has me fucking dead
let's be fair. the man is probably a nice guy who is very much on the spectrum.
@@Laroling let's be real, probably not
@@alexbennet4195 oh come on, dude's clearly got something going on
"To be fair, that's from a video where she and Bailey went to a Star Wars con feigning complete ignorance of Star Wars for laughs. That clip doesn't really belong here." - Rodanguirus
@@ThatGuy-eu2vt I figured this was what was going on. There's no reason someone would start doing that otherwise
That first guy is so cool. He's right that Jenny is totally a loser fake-pony fan if she hadn't heard of this complete chad's sigma pony creation.
It's funny because Jenny was even a featured panel host at one of the conventions, that's how much she was part of the fandom. Still not enough to not get gatekept. Occupational hazard of being a woman, I guess.
@@ChesterTester 1. I don't know what video this is from but I didn't think this was a pony convention since the dude is dressed up like Obi-Wan. Was Jenny a featured panel host at a star wars convention? I mean good for her but I'm not sure why.
2. Would the guy automatically know each and every host of every panel?
3. Again, *again*, there's nothing here indicating that this is gendered instead of the guy being awkward. Why are you inserting that in? Sure we live ina misogynist world but maybe you should treat this as a "red flag" instead of definite proof? Dude is probably just naturally an awkward dude.
@@seanicus100 He's talking about the bronycon conventions, not the star wars cons. There's three separate clips in this video
@@yeed2945 Sorry, I thought that was in response to another comment thread on here, about the last guy. We can all agree the first guy is an absolute asshole.
Was going to upvote until a saw the number count. Consider this #667.
For people who tend to normally complain about woman not being into their hobbies, they sure seem to try really hard to make sure woman who are into their hobbies don't exist in their mind.
Those kinds of people will find faults with women no matter what they do, contradictions be damned
Yea those types of dudes don’t want real women- they want a fantasy woman who will just smile and agree with everything they say 😐
It's because if they do meet a woman with the same interest as them, they are faced with the fact that women may actually be equal to them and that you can actually interact with them like they're human beings and not sex objects, and that is too much to handle.
There was a study on this. The guys who are hostile to women are the guys who themselves are insecure about their abilities. The guys of middling ability in games are the one who are really nasty to women newbies. The really good ones actually were nice.
Being a jerk is a skill issue.
Yeah like those guys who keep insisting women don't play video games or watch Marvel movies
like dude
As someone with an OC, the appropriate response when asked about your character is to word salad their entire lore at the poor sucker who asked
Edit: now that you’re all here, let me tell you about my original charact-
I'm certain the was the exact response Jenny was expecting
As someone who had a friend with Hetalia OCs in highschool, this is absolutely correct. Every lunch she would tell me the chapters she was planning on writing and her characterizations of the US states and other nations’ cities and that NY was dating Moscow and it was very cute (I drew Moscow for her because I thought he was absolutely adorable)
Every single person I've ever met who plays wants to talk about their D&D character, and it always takes a bit of prompting but the word salad eventually comes out. It's so much fun hearing how passionate people are about their creations
This is the way.
OC? Original character/content?
I still cant understand how Jenny got mansplained to at bronycon like she wasnt a VERY well known person in the community, she was a PANELIST at one point too. Like how???
I'm a little unsure on the timeline of when she did Friendship is Witchcraft, but that conversation happened at the very first Bronycon? So maybe she wasn't horse famous yet
They probably didn't recognize her-she was mostly famous for her voice acting after all
@@brookeworley5140 why would she fly in just to go to bronycon if she wasn't a panelist
@@rattyeely ...bcuz she was a fan of MLP???
@@rattyeely She does voice acting?
I really wish she would hit them back like "Oh, you've never heard of me, Jenny Nicholson, who's made hours long essays on the topic?? Fake RUclips fan smh"
Or in the first one "I'm literally running a panel here because I do most of the voices in Friendship is Witchcraft."
Yeah, or made fun of his blatant misunderstanding of sarcasm. Maybe said he must live under a rock AKA his mom's basement or something. 😂
With the brony fans she was pony famous she could have litterly told them I am the one of the creators of Friendship is Witchcraft and owned them.
HER FRIEND’S FACE AT THE END
HER EYES
Incredible. Absolutely slaughtering this ignorant stranger
Her friend was just like SAVE US
@Awawawa CM Yes, a normal thing to do, not at all patronising.
@Awawawa CM no it’s still patronizing that’s what op was saying. The dude isn’t being helpful it’s still creepy and misguided. You don’t have to have encyclopedic knowledge of a fandom to be allowed to go to a con
If they were reading as conventionally nerdy dudes, they wouldn’t have gotten this treatment. Guy sure is a close talker.
@@Lucifersfursona dude, he looks like hes maybe not the smartest guy and if they were faking not knowing the star wars plot he was just giving them a brief outline innocently. He's just old and weird looking so you assume he's creepy.
My headcanon on the english language is that slaughter rhymes with laughter. Nobody gatekeeps my linguistics!
“At yes. This woman at this Star Wars conversation clearly doesn’t know anything about Star Wars. I must be the one to explain it to her”
Wait, Anakin TRANSITIONED??? Good for him!
*her
@@zenithquasar9623 Dammit, I was going to comment that
@@endaburns2121 me too
No no wait, i think that last guy wanted to explain why Anakin is a trans icon
I'm skeptic but willing to listen.
Continue
I would listen to this lecture.
We stan the space Jesus queen
Once a guy tried flirting with me by saying he’d “Be the Luke to my Leia before they knew they were siblings” and I just stared at him for a whole second like, “Wow.. She has a whole ass husband but you decided to talk about the incest.”
To stay on-theme with the video, this same guy then called me a fake Star Wars fan for saying my favorite movie in the series was Rogue One because heavens forbid anyone likes anything new.
Rogue One is your favorite movie? Is it the only one you watched? 😂
@@PB-qe6ce let me guess, yours is Revenge of the Sith
WHY WOULD ANYONE AS AN ESTEEMED STAR WARS FAN SAY THAT TO A WOMAN
Maybe Rogue One is their favourite one because the entire Star Wars series only has, at best, three decent movie and RO is one of them.
Side note: how is not knowing one specific person’s OC a knock against a person as a fan of a franchise? Lots of people are fans but not heavily involved in fandom, or may even be extremely involved (like Jenny) but the internet is a big place and not everyone is going to know all the little goings on about a fandom. Let’s say even if this guy had a big following in his circle of fandom; why does not being in that circle of fandom mean she’s not a “real fan” of the franchise? Even if we were to accept that there were “fake fans”, not knowing about a fandom element doesn’t make you less of a fan of a franchise. The “logic” of the argument is baffling to me.
Sounds to me like the guy has a hilariously over inflated opinion of himself. So one's a real fan of the franchise if they haven't heard of some random dipshit's OC character? Gimme a break.
You're reading too much into it, it wasn't supposed to make sense it was literally just him saying whatever to be rude and dismissive, at her expense to make other people laugh.
The Brony fandom was something else-fan works we're almost more popular than the main canon
I am guessing the guy was just trying to be sarcastic.
The way I interpreted it was that he heard Jenny say “who’s this pony?” and assumed she was asking if it’s a character in the show, which would indicate that she didn’t know the show well enough to tell that it was an OC. Obviously he was a douchebag either way, but his response makes a bit more sense that way.
the last one is the funniest considering Jenny was the host of a whole ass Star Wars centered talk show
She was also the writer of Friendship is Witchcraft, one of the most popular MLP fan works so the first one is hilarious too... wait, am I gatekeeping being a Jenny Nicholson fan?
@@camipco nah. You’re too self aware.
The last one was most likely fake since the whole video was a sketch
Bailey's face at the end is killing me
Wow, it sucks that gatekeeping is still such a thing. I feel bad that Jenny has had to run into that on so many occasions. That last guy reminds me of the time I went to an anime con and cosplayed as Mikuru from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, only for some dude passing me in the stairway to stop me and criticize my outfit because "I should be wearing my hair in pigtails because the's how she wears it and my boobs need to be bigger to really look like the character." She only wears her hair like that in the first episode while wearing a totally different outfit than the standard school uniform she wears for almost EVERY EPISODE AFTER that I was cosplaying. Also, sorry that I was a flat-chested teenager who could only stuff a D-cup bra so much. I politely nodded and agreed at the time rather than call him out, because I had no idea how to address that sudden weirdness.
that guy managed to be rude, incorrect and creepy all at once! impressive!
I'm so sorry that happened to you! I totally understand why you just kinda brushed it off at the time, and I've definitely done the same thing. If you ever go to cons in future, decent ones should all have very clear anti-harassment policies these days. So hopefully if something similar happens again, you'll feel able to get a better resolution. Dudes like that need to get out of public fandom spaces if they can't stop making them gross for other people.
I wouldn't know what to say either. I'd just feel so icky. That's awful.
Wow, a gatekeeper and a creep. They’re evolving
bro im just here to say that im glad i randomly found someone who loves TMOHS and Mikuru like i do!! i bet you looked cute, fuck that guy
The guy gatekeeping My Little Pony to Jenny Nicholson reminds of that dude that tried to explain The Punisher to Gail fuckin' Simone.
Bailey standing next to the portrait of Leia is art.
jenny's "I did.." to the flintstones guy im in tears
At my first job when I was 18 one of my middle aged male coworkers was having a conversation in front of my desk and he couldn't remember the name of The Addams Family. I said it to help him and he looked me up and down and said "Yeah have you even watched it? How old are you again? 12? You're 12." Broooo
For that kind of guy, everything is a competition, help is always considered a menace. Especially if you're a woman or younger than them, and you were both.
Now me personally? I wouldnt let that slide.
To be fair I think the last guy might just be really awkward. I accidentally over explain things because I’m autistic and I’m a woman.
I felt that too, he didn't seem to be down-talking to them, he probably just really likes Star Wars & loves talking about it.
Yeah his mannerisms and speech patterns really read autistic to me
Yeah that's how I felt too, his explanation reminded me of my autistic friends because it was really matter-of-fact and detailed without a condescending tone
another comment explained that they went to the con intentionally acting oblivious to star wars.
I thought so too.
that last guy just strikes me as lonely, like he's been wanting to tell someone this for a long time
edit: HOLY FUCKING SHIT the comments under this got so fucking weird.
I'm not saying mansplaining doesn't exist, merely that I've had guys talk to me this way and I've seen guys like this so I believe in this specific case, loneliness is likely the primary motivation for this guy to say this stuff. That is literally it. Also to the people acting like mansplaining in this context is some evil misogynistic thing, might I remind you that you have the ability to literally just walk away.
I think he wants Jenny Nicholson. I bet he thought mansplaining was gonna win her over.
Yeah a lot of people accused of mansplaining are really people who just *really* enjoy explaining things or teaching people things and gender doesn't have much to do with it. Sometimes they explain thigns that people already know because of not really having the best idea of what people do and don't know.
I have the same problem. I'll talk your ear off if you're a girl or a guy.
@@seanicus100 I think the issue is the assumption that she wouldn’t know that already. Like, she is there at a Star Wars thing. What about her makes him think she wouldn’t be aware of the surface level story of Star Wars? It very much seems like a gender thing. If not that it can sometimes be a non-neurotypical person who just really likes a thing, so I find it best to not jump the gun on accusations like that until the behavior becomes gatekeepy and harmful.
@@dstinnettmusic So you went from saying this is probably a gender thing to then giving a plausible explanation to his behavior and then admitting you were wrong to assume it was a gender thing.
Yeah.
Idk why he would be dying to tell someone this, all he's talking about is how the first two trilogies are ordered. That's pretty basic information, which makes me believe that he was either being purposefully condescending or trying to be "helpful," because clearly girls wouldn't know something so simple about Star Wars.
Whenever a guy tries to mansplain my own hobbies and interests to me, I fully lean into their misogynistic beliefs and play dumb. It's of no consequence to me because they already thought I was dumb but it's fun seeing them get exceedingly frustrated the longer the conversation goes on.
"Wow, look at that Zelda cosplayer!"
*points at Link*
HAHAH I DO THE SAME THING!!! I LOVE calling vault boy other things like "atomic boy," "nuclear boy," or "fall out boy" just to see misogynistic nerds get more and more angry. It's also just really funny to see they can't tell i'm joking/trolling because I have clear knowledge of whatever I was talking about earlier in the convo so there's no way I wouldn't know vault boy's name, but then I love to play dumb to see their veins bulge out of their foreheads
Imagine thinking your OC is this important
Does the last one really count? The whole point of the "Con Artists" videos was the two of them getting into character as "fake fans" who knew nothing about the series.
Wait, what video is this? I've never seen anything like this on Jenny's channel.
@@harrietpotter649 Replying so I can find the answer as well.
Yeah, that's a fair point. But he just oozes mansplaining and superciliousness in my opinion.
@@harrietpotter649 It's on a channel called Terrible Snakedog.
@@ChesterTester mansplaining implies an assumption of a woman not knowing something based off the fact that they're a woman. But if the whole point is her pretending that she doesn't know something, him explaining it to her just makes it seem like he's a really passionate fan who wants to share his interests with someone.
Jenny literally predicted the ending of Star Wars and this is how she gets treated 😔
My dude really though he needed to explain the most basic layout of Star Wars to someone clearly in a star wars costume
So apparently the concept of the video that came from was them actually pretending to be clueless cosplayers. There wasn't really context given for that scene, but I'm willing to give the guy a pass, considering the premise of the video.
Jenny just sucks that power in and becomes even stronger
My EX brother in law used to do this all the time with me. I said at passing a theory about gollum...and he fucking called me to explain to me how I was wrong. Then he realized (a hardcore LOTR fans for 20 years) what the tolkien symbol was and came to tell me "what is it?" and I realized eons before, reading it recently...and he got angry. Like really so. A 30 year old bag of hair and fat, still living with his mom, throwing a tantrum over some 17 year old girl knowing something he did not. It was shocking to experience.
I'm intrigued can you tell me the theory?
@@ChaosTsuki no
When adults gatekeep for kids stuff is especially hilarious and sad
As a woman, I can confirm this does happen, but it can easily just be squashed by acting assertive. Standing there and listening to them mansplain just boosts their ego and makes them think they’re actually teaching you something.
Sure, but if you let them go on forever you can laugh about it later because of how ridiculous it was.
Who hasn't been Gatekept in a nerd fandom though lol. Like...nerd dudes love to do that shit.
It's not just nerds either. Music fandoms are fucking ridiculously gate-keepy too.
@@PhyreI3ird wow you think music fandoms are gate-keepy? the REAL gatekeepers are liberal-leaning podcast fans
@@lafrasjohanuys Really..? Tell me more! I'm interested as a liberal-leaning podcast listener who is completely unaware of fandoms around podcasts...
@@user-lj5wy9hz2y nah mate I was just carrying on with the gatekeeping bit and used the most weird hyper-specific thing I could think of, sorry
I can't comprehend the level of narcissism it would require to tell someone they aren't a "real fan" of the thing you like, because they've never heard of a non-canonical character that YOU made up
What kind of flex is 'you didn't watch Flinstones'?
No, but I'm a big fan of the vitamins??
Whats the name of that webseries where Jenny Nicholson and other girl play a pair of "fake geek girls"? "Con Artists"? I always mix it up with the Alan Tudyk TVshow about a washed up actor from a cancelled scifi show
The other woman is Bailey Meyers and she's super funny as well! Such emotive eyes, and her style of humour mashes so well with Jenny's.
@@ChesterTester great! Thanks!
What strikes me is how absurd most these gatekeeping situations are. Like a lone man at an abandoned Flintstones park, a mysterious brony and his oc, and the hooded man explaining the very basic layout of the star wars chronology. It's like some sort of strange curse.
Something similiar happened to me at Coachella when I wore my Music/Band t-shirt,one of my fellow concert goer's kept on questioning if I knew any song's whatsoever.
dead ass, if the guy with the pony oc plushie said that to me i would burst out laughing
i cant believe someone explained the basic premise of star wars to someone who was in a complete cosplay of leia
She stays girlbossing 🥰
I think I’m gonna do a thing where I go to a Star Wars convention as myself, and go the next year as someone where you can’t tell I’m female just to compare the amount of disrespect.
If someone asks you a question, and in response you turn to other people, there are only two acceptable things to say without being a jackass:
1. "Now this person just asked a great question!" (Unsarcastically, then follow up with at least one more compliment to ensure they know you're not being sarcastic)
2. "Holy shit guys I'm tripping balls; is she just in my mind or do you see her too?"
You like the Flintstones? Name every Dinosaur.
Dude if the first guy did that to me I'd bust out laughing right there, there is no part of that that isn't hilarious 😂
It's genuinely sad that there were adults that acted that way. Like dude, your 500 youtube subscribers, whom 12 of which are your acquaintances are the only people who know your color swapped pinkie pie
MANipulate MANsplain #BoyBoss
Based
The fact that she was the voice of a my little pony video series and was called a noob >.>
Jocks: deal physical damage.
Nerds: deal mental and emotional damage.
imo, it's popular girls who deal the most mental and emotional damage.
Nerds induce status effects, like SLEEP and POISON and CONFUSION.
explains to someone in a homemade cosplay the most well known triology structure in movie history...my dude, get a life
lmaooo the last guy explaining the OG trilogy and prequels like it isn't completely common knowledge even for many people who hasn't even seen the movie
jenny and bailey’s faces at the end are absolutely killing me
I love that a one-minute compilation of clearly edited clips is being labeled as stealing and copyright infringement, like ???
I physically stole money directly from Jenny Nicholsons personal savings account and have now assumed her identity. Hello it is me, Jenny Nichols, theme parks am I right?
Geek culture in a nutshell
I thought that the title said "Jack Nicholson" instead of "Jenny Nicholson" and I was thoroughly confused
WoW. She hasn't heard of my OC. Y'know, there's REAL fans, and then there's THIS.🙄🤷♂
The star wars and flintstones dudes, ok, shitty but frankly not unexpected behaviour, nerd men being nerd men.
But the MLP dude is a whole other level. Like, imagine thinking so highly of yourself just because you have an semi-popular OC based on characters from a show aimed at little girls, enough to talk down an insult a woman and laughing at her with your buddies.
which video is the star wars clip from
Mixed together footage from this (ruclips.net/video/S6mLj3A2z8A/видео.html ) and this (ruclips.net/video/Ok0oaarN0qQ/видео.html ).
i never even seen star wars and i already knew all the stuff that guy was saying
If I ever get to a point in my life where I had somehow “heard of “ someone’s my little pony OC and recognized it on my own, I’ll consider my entire to have been a failure
Why are they so insufferable
the last guy seemed pretty chill
by that I mean he seemed like he didn’t mean offence
That's what Rantasmo is doing instead of Need More Gay? Boiiiiii
This comment reminded me of Needs More Gay and how much I love Rantasmo
@@KariTalks is his channel still a thing? I liked his videos but I unsuscribed because he stopped uploading for a while.
what video is the last clip from
I have made the exact same face her friend and her were making before while listening to a man x-x
Scared to say that I only recognise one of the three clips, and be called a fake Jenny fan
i like patrick nagel style starwars portraits lol
Imagine mansplaining *ponies* to **Jenny**
Holy first-world problems!
Anakin transitioned :)
what videos are the flintstone guy and the star wars guy from?
The flinstones guy is in her spiderquest video. Not sure about the star wars guy tho
@@artisanaltoast9085 thank you ^^
Lord give me her strength
Please tell me what the last video is I'm begging
It's from the series "Con Artists": ruclips.net/video/S6mLj3A2z8A/видео.html
There's gotta be some girlbossing and gaslighting out there.
As someone who grew up with generation 3 and in later years gen 4 as their target audience I would’ve quizzed the guy on gen 3 ponies. Not everyone’s gonna know who your OC is. 🙄
"Mf probably doesn't know the difference between version 1 Starcatcher and version 2 Starcatcher and yet he calls himself a MLP fan 😒" or for even better results, bring up any gen 1 pony that isn't Surprise, Glory, Posey, Twilight, Applejack or Firefly.
Many con attendees (across all cons) are socially awkward individuals and mansplaining, negging, gatekeeping, purity testing, etc. are some's way of interacting and conversing. Seen it so many times. I totally understand people's annoyance at this and I'm not excusing the behavior. At the same time, though, upon encountering one of these individuals, I would caution against immediately assuming malicious intent on their part.
i mean, the intent doesn't really matter. tbh, the nerdy parts of the internet go in the complete opposite direction in my experience, assuming that any shy introverted guy must also be super sweet and nice, despite their words and actions showing otherwise
Intent doesn't matter. The affect is the same. And they know what they're doing to some extent, they are adults.
And people never really do this stuff "maliciously", per se, usually just to make themselves feel smart/better at the expense of someone else. Which still applies in this case. People shouldn't be given a pass based on social aptitude, as many of the women they are gatekeeping are usually quite akward and nerdy themselves.
Going to lightly disagree with the responses, intent does matter. If someone is genuinely ignorant of the fact that they are bothering others and didn't intend on it, they are able to change once they are made aware. The original poster even made the point that they aren't in any way excusing their behaviour, but to point out that not everyone doing it is "hopeless".
Becoming an adult only guarantees physical maturity, there are plenty of people who are adults that are still working on their emotional/mental maturity.
That said, you aren't responsible for anyone's maturity but your own.
Intent is irrelevant. If a man doesn't have the maturity to understand toxic and sexist behaviour and he treats women and others that way, he should be called out. It's not anyone's job to protect his ego or feelings. If he is acting toxic and rude out of ignorance, it means he has been raised in a world that allowed him to have a stupid amount of ignorance about interacting not like an a-hole.
Sometimes people are just too damn old to put up with their weird behavior and lack of social skills. If at the age of 30 you still can't interact with a woman in a casual setting without acting creepy or dismissing her, I don't care if you do it because you're autistic or because you were bullied on high school, I'm gonna shame you anyway
I’m literally laughing my ass off with this comments
Does anybody know who the first guy’s pony oc was? Does anyone have any ideas as to who this giga chad actually was because i have no clue
The shit we deal with as female fans
what vid is the Flintstone clip from?
The Spiderquest one: ruclips.net/video/-CRXUeTmNtE/видео.html
@@ChesterTester thank you!
Sorry. We're working on it. Loooooong way to go. Thanks for your patience.
God they’re so funny, I adore Jenny. I don’t know how she puts up with this stuff.
How dare she not know some random brony’s OC!
Gatekeeping is bad for all of us. 😁
Jenny is amazing.
Gatekeeping is so stupid. Can't you just like something and enjoy it for what it is?
I can't get over this absolute goober seeing a girl wearing a home-made Slave Leia outfit and explaining the order of the names of the movies.
I desperately hope that I never do anything as cringe as this at a convention.
The hazards of being a woman who likes practically anything
imagine gatekeeping the fucking flinstones of all things lmao
first one is so funny to me bc just imagine going after someone like that just for them to be the creator of friendship is witchcraft
Not even a real flintstones fan smh
Jenny as Leia is amazing! That's all.
It's a great video and this part was my favourite.
Her face in the third clip kills me
I also listen to every word when being mansplained. I hate it here
That final frame says it all
Wtf, there's an episode 1, 2 and 3?!
sorry but this is clearly someone making a joke, i dont blame jenny for getting flustered and leaving tough
with no context i thought the guy in the thumbnail was in a tallis, at shul, and like, that at least is a place where i am familiar with gatekeeping based on knowledge of lore