spits and hurricanes ,the merlin sound ,music to my ears but what ive longed for is the sound of a Sabre engine, at 73 a lifelong aviation enthusiast ,I think it would be fantastic to see and hear a Typhoon ,greatly admire the work you have done !
Thank you Mike, with the amount of attention the Sabre is getting (several projects on the go or on hold), I believe the time to hear one will be happening sooner than later. ~Ian
Gorgeous Aircraft, so exciting that you are rebuilding her! I was trained as an engineer, hold my degree and proud of it. But somehow I deviated from the path and moved over to marketing and IT. Still worked for an airline! But this is the real deal. Thankfully I am now part of a team restoring a Catalina to display status. She will not fly again. It putting on the overall and getting my hands dirty again is like returning to my path to passion again!
So I wake up to the start of your video and wow. I'm hooked. Well done. My grandfather build ultralight replica planes for years Always found it amazing the construction that was involved He build everything by and including the equipment to build them. Amazing man. Truly. Well done
That's the best description I've seen about the Typhoon's tail structure woes! I had no idea about that impressive balance weight at the bottom of the stick, either; most of what I've read led me to believe it was in the tail. Thank you!
I hope we are able to add some further description to this issue as the rebuild progresses, visuals will go a long way to show what was really happening. ~Ian
Absolutely great work , I can’t say enough about how wonderful this aircraft was in terms of design adversity and success , budgets are always an issue , I just wish someone with deep pickets would give the project a large injection of currency
Excellent series of videos Ian, very informative and entertaining to watch. I hope when your Typhoon is airworthy you manage to bring it to the UK for us to enjoy. Have you thought about a Beaufighter rebuild as a follow-on project? Good luck with the Typhoon and keep the videos coming, I look forward to them, and thanks for everything you're doing to celebrate the people who made and fought in this marvellous aeroplane.
Very kind Dan, thank you. I would love to see a Beaufighter take to the skies. If I had the time to be involved in such a project, I would do it with great excitement, but I do believe there are a few groups more qualified to take that project on. The Typhoon itself has taken the better part of my lifetime so far, so helping someone who has that type of knowledge on the Beaufighter would be the best role for me. That aside, I think a Tempest V would be a great follow on to a Typhoon!~Ian
Absolutely love the hawker hurricane! And the typhoon? Well it’s the awesome brother! What an incredible machine! I truly wish I could see one flying one day. You truly have the ultimate project going on there. Very jealous and wishing you the very best. Can’t wait to see more progress
I have this funny little game, I play with myself. I say to myself: I'm going to stay alive for X, where X could be anything: birth of a grandchild, a movie-premiere, a new album by a favorite band or anything, basically. Your Typhoon project have made it to my list. I really, really hope I live to see a Typhoon in flight. I'm not dying or anything, but it's good to have something to look forward to. Best of luck..!
Well ! This is fabulous stuff ! By definition you must be an aficionado on this aircraft. I know l can never digest and understand all of the mechanics but this is great . Thankyou.
Just found this channel, I have always been a fan of the typhoon, It was a beast. Shame to think that non made it over the years, a couple of museums have them But none flying, If you are able to get this flying, Would be an amazing feat, and seems you are doing this all on your own. Hat off to you! When I move back home to Canada from northern Europe, I ll have to make a trip to see this :) With my classic British Vehicle Land Rover series 3 :) Which I m also bringing home with me, I have always been a plane Nut LOL, Family was in the RAF during ww2, Spits hurricanes and mustangs.
Interesting things about the Tempest and Typhoon elevators is that the early Typhoon trim tab control was the Hurricane (oyster) type and the later one had the Tempest cylindrical one.
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd I know this is no help but I did have several, but they mostly went on Hurricane restorations. They are very simple animals to recreate if you have a good workshop (as you have). The elevators and trim boxes that are around are mostly from a collection I made from scrapyard that was closing down some years ago, there were enough to serve all the current rebuilds. At first, no one was interested, but I kept all the Tempest ones. They must be around somewhere.
@@tedsinclair4556 It would be really nice to have a chat one of these days, you are one of the original few who made possible what we are doing today! ~Ian
A great project and an informative film. One question: are you using pounds and inches because it's an old British plane or do you use these measurements anyway (as opposed to metric)?
Thank you very much! The original information is indeed in Imperial measurement, but aerospace in North America is also generally all imperial, so it is what I've always used. ~Ian
Fascinating Structure. As I understand T-45 tubing was used by motorcycle custom frame builders such as Harris, Seeley, Dresda by Dave Degans and others. Even today Harris produces a variety of such frames. Most all were bronze welded also. Spondon when in business used British 7020 tubing . Do you know whether either material availabile in Canada ?
I've not heard of 7020 tubing, but I do know that some use the T.45 spec tubing in lieu of T.50 when the testing overlaps specifications. All of this material gets imported into Canada though, nothing produced to that spec. here. ~Ian
Very interesting! The large alloy lugs to the rear of the cockpit section which are broken on your example I imagine were alloy forgings, will you attempt to have these forged for your rebuild, or can they be machined from billet and heat treated? Good luck with this wonderful project! Chris B.
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd Yes Ian, These look like forged components, and I know this process is quite involved now without a volume production order, the Vincent motorcycle has forged alloy fork legs, these were made originally by the Bristol Aeroplane company, and to produce new ones we have had to resort to billet machined components heat treated, the process works, and for a single batch is posibly viable for a stressed item, the "lugs" on your example look like they have been torn apart in a crash. Chris B.
Pilot must use oxygen at all times to avoid potential carbon monoxide black out. Longer ejector stubs were installed but persistent problem was never completely eliminated. Some found the high rev drone pitch of the Napier Sabre fatigue inducing. But not nearly so of she checked out in flight. A four blade De Havilland Air Screw Hydromatic taking advantage of over 2,000 horsepower. She could torque severely with sudden throttle application.
Quite possibly a dumb question, but did the entire tail section fall away in the accidents prior to the modifications being made? Video very well done btw.
Yes it did. Vibration caused elevator flutter, and the flutter caused stresses that the transport joint could not handle. The rear monocoque came off just forward of the transport joint. Great question! ~Ian
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd Thanks for replying. A very belt and braces approach. I'm a big fan of the Typhoon too although I sometimes think that it would never have been proceeded with if the need for it hadn't been so urgent. The only Typhoon projects I've been involved in are building 1/72 plastic kits. I built the old Airfix kit decades ago but more recently I tackled the mid 1970s FROG kit, which for many years was the only 1/72 Typhoon featuring the "car door" cockpit set up. I have one of the new 1/72 Airfix kits to build. As a matter of interest, I often drive through Langley on the way to visit one of my clients and I drive right past what used to be Hawker's old Hurricane and Typhoon factory. The road is called "Hurricane Way" (typical that they ignored the Typhoon - yet again).
Great project Ian and another very interesting video, I subscribed a while ago and I'm certainly not regretting it. One quick question, are you going to use a Napier Sabre? Very rare engine with something of a dubious reliability record, is it's bad reputation deserved??
Thank you very much, great to hear! We are intending to use a Napier Sabre in the finished aircraft. The Sabre had many teething problems (as you can imagine for a new type of engine being pressed into service). With time, it became quite reliable; partly due to identification and rectification of weaknesses, but also better training of ground personnel. It's going to be a massive task to bring one back to life!
I am in awe of your expertise and just loving this. I did a large part of my fitting and turning apprenticeship at Napier’s before Rolls Royce took us over in the early sixties. The Sabre was a bit of a legend even then!
@@malcolmmartin2554 It really was the ultimate development of piston engines, sadly, the Sabre VII was not well covered despite being spectacular! Great to have you with us! ~Ian
I m insane...if i had the space to re produce or at least build a 1 on 2 scale model ....i would like to do this....but im also interested if al components and materials are fully aluminium or could be remade in our present day by other materials considering our present possibility of technology....
I'm sure more modern materials could be used, but in doing so the aircraft would not be as designed by Hawker and would fall into the replica category. ~Ian
Very interesting, thinking that I knew about this aircraft I've never come across this larger tailplane. Judging from your inability to say words with "out" in them, I presume that you are Canadian. Despite all of this, thank you for a good video, just work on your accent.And good luck, you deserve it.
This project is incredible, and this series will probably be the best source of Typhoon technical information out there.
Thank you very much! I hope that everyone watching will get the "Typhoon Bug" too!
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd Praise indeed eh !
spits and hurricanes ,the merlin sound ,music to my ears but what ive longed for is the sound of a Sabre engine, at 73 a lifelong aviation enthusiast ,I think it would be fantastic to see and hear a Typhoon ,greatly admire the work you have done !
Thank you Mike, with the amount of attention the Sabre is getting (several projects on the go or on hold), I believe the time to hear one will be happening sooner than later. ~Ian
Gorgeous Aircraft, so exciting that you are rebuilding her! I was trained as an engineer, hold my degree and proud of it. But somehow I deviated from the path and moved over to marketing and IT. Still worked for an airline! But this is the real deal. Thankfully I am now part of a team restoring a Catalina to display status. She will not fly again. It putting on the overall and getting my hands dirty again is like returning to my path to passion again!
That's a feeling that is hard to beat! If you need Catalina information, please get hold of me through our website. typhoonlegacy.com ~Ian
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd Thank you very much! I will if required.
Never thought I’d see something like this! Kudos to you boys for tackling it.
Thank you Mike! ~Ian
So I wake up to the start of your video and wow. I'm hooked.
Well done.
My grandfather build ultralight replica planes for years
Always found it amazing the construction that was involved
He build everything by and including the equipment to build them.
Amazing man. Truly. Well done
Thank you very much, and great to have you following along! ~Ian
This series is very talky but the science behind the talk is incredible.
Just came across this today. Utterly Fantastic!!! Thank you, such craftsmanship integrating modern design technology! Best content on RUclips...
Thank you so much! ~Ian
That's the best description I've seen about the Typhoon's tail structure woes! I had no idea about that impressive balance weight at the bottom of the stick, either; most of what I've read led me to believe it was in the tail. Thank you!
I hope we are able to add some further description to this issue as the rebuild progresses, visuals will go a long way to show what was really happening. ~Ian
This is so good watching all your work and with the immense amount description of the details in your build.
Thank you Brian!
Absolutely great work , I can’t say enough about how wonderful this aircraft was in terms of design adversity and success , budgets are always an issue , I just wish someone with deep pickets would give the project a large injection of currency
Excellent as always
super informative edition, thank you
I'm very glad you enjoyed it! ~Ian
Excellent series of videos Ian, very informative and entertaining to watch. I hope when your Typhoon is airworthy you manage to bring it to the UK for us to enjoy. Have you thought about a Beaufighter rebuild as a follow-on project? Good luck with the Typhoon and keep the videos coming, I look forward to them, and thanks for everything you're doing to celebrate the people who made and fought in this marvellous aeroplane.
Very kind Dan, thank you. I would love to see a Beaufighter take to the skies. If I had the time to be involved in such a project, I would do it with great excitement, but I do believe there are a few groups more qualified to take that project on. The Typhoon itself has taken the better part of my lifetime so far, so helping someone who has that type of knowledge on the Beaufighter would be the best role for me. That aside, I think a Tempest V would be a great follow on to a Typhoon!~Ian
Love all this info Ian, and the cad drawings were great, nice to see what I'm building looks about right! TFS, GB :)
Absolutely love the hawker hurricane! And the typhoon? Well it’s the awesome brother! What an incredible machine! I truly wish I could see one flying one day. You truly have the ultimate project going on there. Very jealous and wishing you the very best. Can’t wait to see more progress
Thank you Don, we will do our best to make that happen!
This just gets better, well done.
I have this funny little game, I play with myself. I say to myself: I'm going to stay alive for X, where X could be anything: birth of a grandchild, a movie-premiere, a new album by a favorite band or anything, basically. Your Typhoon project have made it to my list. I really, really hope I live to see a Typhoon in flight. I'm not dying or anything, but it's good to have something to look forward to. Best of luck..!
Very happy to have made the list, there is much more work ahead, but progress over the last year has been great!
Excellent informative video with fluent presenter. Other restorers would do well to follow.
That is very kind of you to say, thank you Richard. ~Ian
Well ! This is fabulous stuff ! By definition you must be an aficionado on this aircraft. I know l can never digest and understand all of the mechanics but this is great . Thankyou.
Just found this channel, I have always been a fan of the typhoon, It was a beast. Shame to think that non made it over the years, a couple of museums have them But none flying, If you are able to get this flying, Would be an amazing feat, and seems you are doing this all on your own. Hat off to you! When I move back home to Canada from northern Europe, I ll have to make a trip to see this :) With my classic British Vehicle Land Rover series 3 :) Which I m also bringing home with me, I have always been a plane Nut LOL, Family was in the RAF during ww2, Spits hurricanes and mustangs.
The British loved complex manufacturing.
Interesting things about the Tempest and Typhoon elevators is that the early Typhoon trim tab control was the Hurricane (oyster) type and the later one had the Tempest cylindrical one.
Very true, we're actually still looking for one of the early elevator trim control boxes at the moment. ~Ian
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd I know this is no help but I did have several, but they mostly went on Hurricane restorations. They are very simple animals to recreate if you have a good workshop (as you have). The elevators and trim boxes that are around are mostly from a collection I made from scrapyard that was closing down some years ago, there were enough to serve all the current rebuilds. At first, no one was interested, but I kept all the Tempest ones. They must be around somewhere.
@@tedsinclair4556 It would be really nice to have a chat one of these days, you are one of the original few who made possible what we are doing today! ~Ian
A great project and an informative film.
One question: are you using pounds and inches because it's an old British plane or do you use these measurements anyway (as opposed to metric)?
Thank you very much! The original information is indeed in Imperial measurement, but aerospace in North America is also generally all imperial, so it is what I've always used. ~Ian
Fascinating Structure. As I understand T-45 tubing was used by motorcycle custom frame builders such as Harris, Seeley, Dresda by Dave Degans and others. Even today Harris produces a variety of such frames. Most all were bronze welded also. Spondon when in business used British 7020 tubing . Do you know whether either material availabile in Canada ?
I've not heard of 7020 tubing, but I do know that some use the T.45 spec tubing in lieu of T.50 when the testing overlaps specifications. All of this material gets imported into Canada though, nothing produced to that spec. here. ~Ian
Very interesting! The large alloy lugs to the rear of the cockpit section which are broken on your example I imagine were alloy forgings, will you attempt to have these forged for your rebuild, or can they be machined from billet and heat treated? Good luck with this wonderful project! Chris B.
Hi Chris, are you referring to the alloy forgings which attach the cockpit to the integrating structure (four positions)? ~Ian
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd Yes Ian, These look like forged components, and I know this process is quite involved now without a volume production order, the Vincent motorcycle has forged alloy fork legs, these were made originally by the Bristol Aeroplane company, and to produce new ones we have had to resort to billet machined components heat treated, the process works, and for a single batch is posibly viable for a stressed item, the "lugs" on your example look like they have been torn apart in a crash. Chris B.
Pilot must use oxygen at all times to avoid potential carbon monoxide black out. Longer ejector stubs were installed but persistent problem was never completely eliminated.
Some found the high rev drone pitch of the Napier Sabre fatigue inducing. But not nearly so of she checked out in flight.
A four blade De Havilland Air Screw Hydromatic taking advantage of over 2,000 horsepower.
She could torque severely with sudden throttle application.
Quite possibly a dumb question, but did the entire tail section fall away in the accidents prior to the modifications being made? Video very well done btw.
Yes it did. Vibration caused elevator flutter, and the flutter caused stresses that the transport joint could not handle. The rear monocoque came off just forward of the transport joint. Great question! ~Ian
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd Will your's feature the fishplates?
@@EricIrl It will for sure, but will also include the Tempest transport joint. ~Ian
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd Thanks for replying.
A very belt and braces approach.
I'm a big fan of the Typhoon too although I sometimes think that it would never have been proceeded with if the need for it hadn't been so urgent.
The only Typhoon projects I've been involved in are building 1/72 plastic kits. I built the old Airfix kit decades ago but more recently I tackled the mid 1970s FROG kit, which for many years was the only 1/72 Typhoon featuring the "car door" cockpit set up.
I have one of the new 1/72 Airfix kits to build.
As a matter of interest, I often drive through Langley on the way to visit one of my clients and I drive right past what used to be Hawker's old Hurricane and Typhoon factory. The road is called "Hurricane Way" (typical that they ignored the Typhoon - yet again).
Great project Ian and another very interesting video, I subscribed a while ago and I'm certainly not regretting it. One quick question, are you going to use a Napier Sabre? Very rare engine with something of a dubious reliability record, is it's bad reputation deserved??
Thank you very much, great to hear! We are intending to use a Napier Sabre in the finished aircraft. The Sabre had many teething problems (as you can imagine for a new type of engine being pressed into service). With time, it became quite reliable; partly due to identification and rectification of weaknesses, but also better training of ground personnel. It's going to be a massive task to bring one back to life!
I am in awe of your expertise and just loving this. I did a large part of my fitting and turning apprenticeship at Napier’s before Rolls Royce took us over in the early sixties. The Sabre was a bit of a legend even then!
@@malcolmmartin2554 It really was the ultimate development of piston engines, sadly, the Sabre VII was not well covered despite being spectacular! Great to have you with us! ~Ian
Nice poster! :)
Ha! Just wait until the next episode Jiri, there is a seek peek over on Instagram though @typhoonlegacy
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd You are having fun! :)
My uncle Harry HardyF/l flew the hawker typhoon ,sgn.440 Hollande.
Harry was a wonderful man, we were honored to have him visit the project. ~Ian
I m insane...if i had the space to re produce or at least build a 1 on 2 scale model ....i would like to do this....but im also interested if al components and materials are fully aluminium or could be remade in our present day by other materials considering our present possibility of technology....
I'm sure more modern materials could be used, but in doing so the aircraft would not be as designed by Hawker and would fall into the replica category. ~Ian
Very interesting, thinking that I knew about this aircraft I've never come across this larger tailplane. Judging from your inability to say words with "out" in them, I presume that you are Canadian. Despite all of this, thank you for a good video, just work on your accent.And good luck, you deserve it.
it lost its tail..........because it was a tadpole.