Faith and Works: Works of the Law in the Dead Sea Scrolls
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2021
- Dr. Bergsma looks at the Qumran community and the Dea Sea Scrolls. What does it reveal to us about the meaning of works of the law as found in the writings of St. Paul? What does this mean for debate about faith and works with regard to salvation?
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So beautiful St. Therese little flower of the Child Jesus pray for us. Amen
The Masoretic Text (MT) was an alteration of significant portions of the Square Hebrew Old Testament that began early (noted by the Talmud and Mishnah showing conflicting texts, contradictions, and multiple, competing rabbis making alterations) though Jews also used the Septuagint (translated from Square Hebrew in the mid third century BC), and older than the MT; The MT are hardly original scriptures and not a BC text; see Jeremiah 8:8 (Septuagint).
Paleo Hebrew, used from the 12th to 6th century BC (around 2,000 years older than the MT), gave way to Square Hebrew (around 1,300 years older than the MT), which then eventually gave way to Greek, as evidenced by the Septuagint, which is around 1,000 years than the MT. The Septuagint predates Christianity, used when Greek became the lingua franca, and its use in synagogues by Jews around the Mediterranean was substantiam.
Paleo Hebrew, Square Hebrew, and the Septuagint (LXX) within the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) preserve the originals, and overwhelmingly disagree with the MT in numerous instances. The Septuagint predates Christianity and scrolls from it are found within the Dead Sea Scrolls. Jesus Christ, St. Paul, and others within the New Testament, almost exclusively quote from the Septuagint.
1.) Exodus 1:5 in the DSS Square Hebrew agrees with the Septuagint against the MT (and KJV) that all the souls from Jacob were 75, not 70.
2.) The older Square Hebrew in the DSS, the Samaritan Pentateuch, Aramaic Targums, etc, agrees with the Septuagint against the MT (and KJV) for Deut. 32:8-9 in using Sons/angels of God and not sons of Israel.
3.) The Square Hebrew in the DSS for Deuteronomy 32:43 lines up with the Septuagint against the MT (and KJV) saying the angels are to worship messiah.
4.) The Septuagint for 1 and 2 Samuel are backed up by 3 DSS and the MT is known among scholars as botching 1 and 2 Samuel badly.
5.) The MT wrongly has Saul becoming king at age one and ruling for two years.
6.) The MT actually left out an entire line from a Psalm that the Square Hebrew and the Septuagint preserved, thus the so-called masters of vowel memorization not only forgot vowels but also consonants.
7.) Psalm 40:6: a messianic proof text for the Incarnation:
The MT (and KJV): Thou hast dug out my ears.
The Septuagint: A body thou hast prepared for me.
8.) Concerning another messianic psalm, Psalm 22:16, the DSS Square Hebrew agree with the Septuagint and KJV against the MT.
9.) *Baruch, Sirach, Tobit, and Psalm 151 are written in Hebrew in the DSS.*
10.) ▪︎The chronologies of Genesis 5, 11 of the Paleo Hebrew and the Septuagint line up against the MT.
▪︎Literary sources before 100 AD that largely agree with the Paleo Hebrew and the Septuagint:
▪︎ 2 Esdras, Josephus and Philo (30/70 AD) did not use the Septuagint to come to their conclusions that lines up with the Septuagint, etc, for the true time span of the Gen. 5 and 11 chronologies but yet largwly agree with the Paleo Hebrew and the Septuagint nonetheless.
▪︎Eupolemus, the Jewish 2nd century BC historian's chronology, comes close to aligning with the Paleo Hebrew and Septuagint and not the MT.
▪︎Jewish Demetrius the Chronicler's (3rd century BC) chronology comes very close to the Paleo Hebrew and Septuagint and against the MT.
Justin Martyr said the Jews in his time period were altering their scriptures.
▪︎biblearchaeology.org/research/biblical-chronologies/4349-mt-sp-or-lxx-deciphering-a-chronological-and-textual-conundrum-in-genesis-5
Since synagogues around the Mediterranean used Septuagint and Square Hebrew, even in Palestine, Greek was the lingua franca, Jesus grew up near Sepphoris where Hebrew and Greek were both spoken and where Joseph could ply his trade, Christ quoted the scriptures, spoke to the Syrophoenician woman, and Mark/Luke were written to Romans/Greeks, some will be hard-pressed to prove Jesus used only Hebrew.
Concerning key messianic scriptures, Catholics, Copts, Orthodox, and Protestants see that the leaven of the rabbis and then the Masoretes seemed to target scriptures that point to Jesus Christ. (Matthew 16:6).
The Paleo Hebrew, Square Hebrew, and the Septuagint all agree with each other against the MT far more than they disagree, thus the starting point is to sideline the MT.
There are dozens and dozens of instances where the Paleo Hebrew, Square Hebrew, and the Septuagint agree against the MT: By the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses let every word be established. Deut. 19:15; 2 Cor. 13:1.
Given that Septuagint scrolls were found with Paleo Hebrew and Square Hebrew scrolls in the DSS, one would again be hard-pressed to prove that Christians composed the Septuagint and, as well, the Torah was translated into Greek from 283-246 BC under Ptolemy II Philadelphus and the prophets and writings within the next 100 years.
Septuagint fragments found at Qumran (Lev.), the Nahal Hever (Habbakuk, near Ein Gedi), dated 50 BC, Deut. fragments dates 2nd century BC.
Prosuche (forerunner to the synagogue) foundation stones in Egypt are dated 120 to 240 BC. If you gather in a church or synagogue, its origins are found in Hellenistic Egypt as they are foreign to temple-only thought. The synagogue ultimately spread to Israel along with the Septuagint (Theodotus inscription, in Greek, a synagogue in Jerusalem, 1st century AD).
Ultimately, the Septuagint flows back to Square Hebrew, and that to Paleo Hebrew, and concerning the Gen. 5 and 11 chronologies, these things were declared before the Septuagint ever came into being.
For me, it's either the Douay-Rheims and/or the Greek New Testament/Septuagint, the Peshitta, never the MT/KJV/NASB/NIV.
I really love especially the end.
Faith without works is DEAD. Jesus said " Not everyone who calls me Lord Lord, will saved...but he that DOES ( action verb ) the work of God "
Thank you for making that so clear..and understandable. I always learn so much from you at the St Pauls centre and i am thankful for teaching us also what was contained in the dead sea scrolls
The Masoretic Text (MT) was an alteration of significant portions of the Square Hebrew Old Testament that began early (noted by the Talmud and Mishnah showing conflicting texts, contradictions, and multiple, competing rabbis making alterations) though Jews also used the Septuagint (translated from Square Hebrew in the mid third century BC), and older than the MT; The MT are hardly original scriptures and not a BC text; see Jeremiah 8:8 (Septuagint).
Paleo Hebrew, used from the 12th to 6th century BC (around 2,000 years older than the MT), gave way to Square Hebrew (around 1,300 years older than the MT), which then eventually gave way to Greek, as evidenced by the Septuagint, which is around 1,000 years than the MT. The Septuagint predates Christianity, used when Greek became the lingua franca, and its use in synagogues by Jews around the Mediterranean was substantiam.
Paleo Hebrew, Square Hebrew, and the Septuagint (LXX) within the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) preserve the originals, and overwhelmingly disagree with the MT in numerous instances. The Septuagint predates Christianity and scrolls from it are found within the Dead Sea Scrolls. Jesus Christ, St. Paul, and others within the New Testament, almost exclusively quote from the Septuagint.
1.) Exodus 1:5 in the DSS Square Hebrew agrees with the Septuagint against the MT (and KJV) that all the souls from Jacob were 75, not 70.
2.) The older Square Hebrew in the DSS, the Samaritan Pentateuch, Aramaic Targums, etc, agrees with the Septuagint against the MT (and KJV) for Deut. 32:8-9 in using Sons/angels of God and not sons of Israel.
3.) The Square Hebrew in the DSS for Deuteronomy 32:43 lines up with the Septuagint against the MT (and KJV) saying the angels are to worship messiah.
4.) The Septuagint for 1 and 2 Samuel are backed up by 3 DSS and the MT is known among scholars as botching 1 and 2 Samuel badly.
5.) The MT wrongly has Saul becoming king at age one and ruling for two years.
6.) The MT actually left out an entire line from a Psalm that the Square Hebrew and the Septuagint preserved, thus the so-called masters of vowel memorization not only forgot vowels but also consonants.
7.) Psalm 40:6: a messianic proof text for the Incarnation:
The MT (and KJV): Thou hast dug out my ears.
The Septuagint: A body thou hast prepared for me.
8.) Concerning another messianic psalm, Psalm 22:16, the DSS Square Hebrew agree with the Septuagint and KJV against the MT.
9.) *Baruch, Sirach, Tobit, and Psalm 151 are written in Hebrew in the DSS.*
10.) ▪︎The chronologies of Genesis 5, 11 of the Paleo Hebrew and the Septuagint line up against the MT.
▪︎Literary sources before 100 AD that largely agree with the Paleo Hebrew and the Septuagint:
▪︎ 2 Esdras, Josephus and Philo (30/70 AD) did not use the Septuagint to come to their conclusions that lines up with the Septuagint, etc, for the true time span of the Gen. 5 and 11 chronologies but yet largwly agree with the Paleo Hebrew and the Septuagint nonetheless.
▪︎Eupolemus, the Jewish 2nd century BC historian's chronology, comes close to aligning with the Paleo Hebrew and Septuagint and not the MT.
▪︎Jewish Demetrius the Chronicler's (3rd century BC) chronology comes very close to the Paleo Hebrew and Septuagint and against the MT.
Justin Martyr said the Jews in his time period were altering their scriptures.
▪︎biblearchaeology.org/research/biblical-chronologies/4349-mt-sp-or-lxx-deciphering-a-chronological-and-textual-conundrum-in-genesis-5
Since synagogues around the Mediterranean used Septuagint and Square Hebrew, even in Palestine, Greek was the lingua franca, Jesus grew up near Sepphoris where Hebrew and Greek were both spoken and where Joseph could ply his trade, Christ quoted the scriptures, spoke to the Syrophoenician woman, and Mark/Luke were written to Romans/Greeks, some will be hard-pressed to prove Jesus used only Hebrew.
Concerning key messianic scriptures, Catholics, Copts, Orthodox, and Protestants see that the leaven of the rabbis and then the Masoretes seemed to target scriptures that point to Jesus Christ. (Matthew 16:6).
The Paleo Hebrew, Square Hebrew, and the Septuagint all agree with each other against the MT far more than they disagree, thus the starting point is to sideline the MT.
There are dozens and dozens of instances where the Paleo Hebrew, Square Hebrew, and the Septuagint agree against the MT: By the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses let every word be established. Deut. 19:15; 2 Cor. 13:1.
Given that Septuagint scrolls were found with Paleo Hebrew and Square Hebrew scrolls in the DSS, one would again be hard-pressed to prove that Christians composed the Septuagint and, as well, the Torah was translated into Greek from 283-246 BC under Ptolemy II Philadelphus and the prophets and writings within the next 100 years.
Septuagint fragments found at Qumran (Lev.), the Nahal Hever (Habbakuk, near Ein Gedi), dated 50 BC, Deut. fragments dates 2nd century BC.
Prosuche (forerunner to the synagogue) foundation stones in Egypt are dated 120 to 240 BC. If you gather in a church or synagogue, its origins are found in Hellenistic Egypt as they are foreign to temple-only thought. The synagogue ultimately spread to Israel along with the Septuagint (Theodotus inscription, in Greek, a synagogue in Jerusalem, 1st century AD).
Ultimately, the Septuagint flows back to Square Hebrew, and that to Paleo Hebrew, and concerning the Gen. 5 and 11 chronologies, these things were declared before the Septuagint ever came into being.
For me, it's either the Douay-Rheims and/or the Greek New Testament/Septuagint, the Peshitta, never the MT/KJV/NASB/NIV.
Great teaching. Thank you.
Very nice, thanks.
How doesn't this have more views?
How can it be that all these great Catholic Production videos don't have far more views? People waste their time, but they would get so much more benefit from insights like these. Just one each day is enough for excellent learning of the Faith.
Thanks you! A very important issue!
That was beautiful was that fr St. Therese... 🙏🏻🙌🏻👍🏻
Great lecture. Thank you!
Good video
Wow. 🙏🏼
Most non-Christian religions, when you look into them, ARE Pelagian. Eastern religions are especially concerned with people achieving what they consider to be blessedness by means of works and self-mastery. But Catholicism has never been like this; it's always been about working with God's grace and through His sacraments.
Wowwwwwe..crystal
What was the Sacrifice of the Old Covenant?
I have been trying to look up the word but I am not sure how to spell it. You stated that Essene is a corruption of the word "osseme" How do you spell "osseme" correctly.
How difficult it is for us to simply accept Christ into our hearts. We all have faith but even our actions are stumbling blocks to salvation. We should be better than this and depend solely on Christ.
solely on Christ means no importance of the church nor sacraments nor liturgy nor the authority of the patristic tradition -
I need h__p . Brother's and sister in Christ. I am new catholic first i was a Muslim
Welcome home❤
How can we help you Abdur C
Congrats, it’s going to be difficult but worth it!
The Lord Jesus The Christ lead you and bless you my brother!
@@loganw1232 it is deficult brother. Can you help me ( small donation)
I agree, except the little phrase at the end about keeping the sacraments, which somehow seems to counter everything you just said. But right on when it comes to works of the law. That’s why Paul also shares with us the works of the spirit. Walk in the Spirit, and you will not satisfy the desires of the flesh.
BTW, best description I’ve heard from either side of the fence. 🙏🏻
It's important to remember that the sacraments are the manner in which graces are mediated to us. The old testament law meant to transform the person from the outside in. But the new testament sacraments actually bring the graces they signify. So they are not just symbolic but efficacious.
And, also, remember that the Sacraments are of the NEW COVENANT,
The New Covenant which is Jesus Christ. It is He that gave us the Sacraments. The Sacraments are not to be confused with the ceremonial rituals of the old covenant/works of the law.
The old ceremonial laws were mostly means of purification to make one's self able to present/offer to God
Faith and obedience. This strict mindset of the adherence to such laws had good and also bad factors.
How can one love thy neighbor when so wrapped up in cleanliness that they are afraid to serve the poor, tend to the sick, care for the widows and orphans?
Being so wrapped up in these trappings ultimately causes a mindset of selfishness, and, thus the lack of concern for those in need.
Ceremonial law should never override moral law.
It is within the Sacraments that we are infused with the GRACE
needed to open our eyes to the love and welfare for others so that we "do" unto others, as you would have them do unto you/us.
Jesus says ,for what you do for the least of my brothers, you do unto me.
We are not doing good deeds for our ultimate salvation, but we are doing good for our neighbor in need so that they see the love of Jesus Himself, and hold on to whatever strength and courage and faith they have in order to persevere, and as Saint
Paul says, run the race.
Feed amd clothe the poor,
Help care for the widows/elderly, care for the orphans, care for the sick, visit the imprisoned and pray for all of these and share the Gospel.
But how do you show your love to Christ? Its keeping the sacraments that shows your devotion to him.
@@takmaps I don't know if I agree with that. The sacraments are not an outward pledge of allegiance to God. They are the tools we need in order recieve grace from God to combat sin
The sacraments are a way to honor the Lord and they are all biblical. They are all prayers. They in no way take away from Jesus.
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The presentation to Emperor Charles did not go well. Charles responded by telling the reformers to back down. In the Apology of the Augsburg Confession the reformers wrote: “.....the Law cannot be kept without Christ and the Holy Spirit. We profess that the work of the Law must be begun in us, and that it must be kept continually more and more. At the same time we also speak about both spiritual movements and outward good works. Therefore, the adversaries falsely charge that our theologians do not teach good works. They not only require good works, but they also show how they can be done.”
Essenes held Herod as their anointed. SOME pharisees, the pagan Sadducees, and their deceitful scribes/ ciphers /sephardics did not accept the Truth, Light, Word, Our Lord.
i didnt know Christopher Walken is Catholic
pffffft
Ahahah
95 feces if you ask me
ahah it's funny because Martin Luther had a fascination with these things
@@lonelyberg1316 Yes, indeed, he was a scatologist
@@deusimperator 😂
I’m not Catholic. I came from Southern Baptist theology, which is littered with Dispensationalism these days. I now have left all institutional churches to follow Jesus because none of them follow Him, including and especially the RCC. That appears to be a mixing of pagan religion with the commandments of Yah - creating a “luke warm” mixture.
Nonetheless, I agree with much of what this man says.
4QMMT is the works of the law - which is simply the rules of the Essenes and Pharisees - both of which disregarded the work of Messiah on the stake.
What audience was the NT written for?
Our Lord never mentions any yah/baal. That's not HIS Father, that's the ieudomites' father.
Essenes held Herod as their anointed. SOME pharisees, the pagan Sadducees, and their deceitful scribes/ ciphers /sephardics did not accept the Truth, Light, Word, Our Lord.
Its faith that works not faith and works.. christ died to fulfill the law not to add to it. We are saved by grace not of works ephesians 2 read luke 18
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Faith alone? Where is that in the bible?
Yes, we are saved by grace and not due to the works we do. That's the catholic teaching. If we want to get into heaven, we need to work for it though.
. James 2:24