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"What Does The Bible Say About Homosexuality" - Did God Really Say?
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2022
- In this message from September 18th, 2022, Pastor Robby discusses what the Bible says about homosexuality and answers the question, can someone be gay and also be a Christian?
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Thank you for sharing truth! This is the best comprehensive teaching on this subject I’ve ever seen! Thank you for following Jesus so faithfully!
Thank you for standing on Doctrine!
I'm still restling with this as a heterosexual. Why it matters is because we get to go home and have relations with our wives and it not be a sin and they don't. I understand we all have perversions and we have to struggle to not "miss the mark ", but they don't have comfort to love the way we do without it being a miss. This is a really tough one for me.
Maybe those who are divorced and remarried against what the Bible says can relate.
I can see this but what he is preaching is not just for LGBT but also for those who are lusting or having sex outside of marriage. It’s all a sin so if you are not following god or not have his spirit within you then you will lust for whatever sin you desire.
What part of sin is sin is so difficult to grasp? ALL LUST is sinful. Homosexual sin is way less as complex as Heterosexual sin. Heterosexual lust & sin involves everything from lust, infidelity, cheating, adultry, whordom, rape, incest, sexual assault, perversion, masturation, temptation, etc. If you're a "homosexual" sinner none of that applies to you because you're already affirming & living in sin so you're not even able to comprehend the other sins you are hurting yourself with. For example, many "homosexual" sinners abandon & forsake their whole lives, families etcetera all to live in sin & lust with & after another of the same sax but they also complain of cheating & infidelity. Well if you live for lust what do you really expect? So they can't comprehend that it's a sin because they don't even comprehend living in lust is a sin. They *feel that cheating & infidelity is wrong but how really is it wrong if the sin of lust is okay? If forsaking & abandoning God, your family, your friends, your life for sexual lust & immorality is okay then why isn't it okay to forsake your partner or spouse? I mean seriously.
They also seek after having children and they think nothing of inseminating a perfect stranger, even especially someone they know & creepily possibly a sibling. 'Oh nothing wrong with that.' they think nothing wrong with keeping a child away from a rightful mother or father. 'Nope, nothing wrong there.' They see nothing wrong with hiring people or buying human sexual products to create a baby they on their own can't create because of their sin. They think nothing of basically buying a child from a mother or buying strangers sperm to make one, thus inseminating themselves with a strangers biological sexual product, sperm in order to create this child which isn't fully theirs. 'No, what could be wrong with that? That's totally normal.'
Sinners don't comprehend mostly because they don't want to or choose not to & to deny the truth. It's not all just ignorance don't be so naive.
@@JohnDoe003 I think it may be hard to grasp because like you said a lot of gay people don't see it as sin. Perhaps because they aren't constantly having sex 24/7. There's other parts of life that they feel they miss out on having that special companion. I assume they may feel like everything is lumped together with sex as if sex rules. In their minds it may be a thing of I love this person we rarely even have sex, how can it be so sinful when it's something they barely participate in. I don't know. To them it's way more than sex when it appears thats only what the Bible is condemning. Like you said lustful, out of control, sometimes abusive sex of all kinds.
@@jenisebrooks4308 because like you said a lot of gay people don't see it as sin."
That's where the first disconnect seems to be but that's a lie because they know that it's wrong or not normal in some form. As the pastor, I & others can say is they (like no one) don't have to believe in a god or the Bible to know or see the flaws or morally wrong in something. Furthermore, it's more importantly true against them that they don't believe in ANY sin; and the things they say are "wrong" aren't really morally weighed justly & righteously, nor have a good standard to ensure what is "wrong" is universally clearly defined and what is "right" is universal & defended. Thus they're lost.
"Perhaps because they aren't constantly having sex 24/7.
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In their minds it may be a thing of I love this person we rarely even have sex, how can it be so sinful when it's something they barely participate in."
These statements make me question if your joking (b/c this is laughable), where your viewing this subject from, and or that maybe possibly you are/were homosexual or at very least have a very invested view of them.
"To them it's way more than sex when it appears thats only what the Bible is condemning."
But the Bible is not condemning sex it's condemning sin & lust. And again as I said before, them merely not believing in ANY sin or the Bible they know that the Bible is absolutely way more than about pointing out sexual sin, rather sin & lifestyle in general. They're simply denying or pretending not to know what the Bible says while clearly denying it outright. So either they know nothing about the Bible & are blindly judging it, ironically as they say it's doing, OR they know what it says but merely deny & contend with it. There's only one solution to that: that they become tolerant and get educated & enlightened on the issue.
Awesome! Agreed, and thank you for your courage!
We need more of this in the church's
"Sin is a monster of such awful mein.
that to be hated needs but to be seen.
but seen too oft familiar of face.
we first endure, then pity, then embrace."
-Alexander Pope
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I truly enjoyed your service and teaching on this!! I completely understand everything you said on something I've been so confused on!! Thank you
What are you confused on??
Wow I love this brother
I can’t understand how this has on got 95 likes he is speaking in love and truth this topic triggers so many people now days we are living in the last days for sure where evil is good and good is evil
We sure are when the pastor is from the start pacifying the issue & the truth, and basically affirming the sinners & Satan by speaking the evil language & terms they prefer you to use. Even the wise, enlightened & "well intentioned" are compromising with evil or falling for it's traps. The enemy comes to steal, kill & destroy and will use every tactic to do so. The enemy will even use the leaders of the church & cause them to unintentionally lead people astray even if just in the slightest. All it takes is an inch for the enemy to take a yard & gain a foot hold. That is why every individual follow must be vigilant & prepared with the word & armor of God. We must be armed & dangerous!
Whatever is wrong is disguised as being right. People are rewarded to deceive and manipulate. Turn away from evil. God will do the rest.
“Those who have been forgiven much, Love much.” ❤️ “What is outside of God’s design is not outside of God’s redemption.” 🙏
And who exaclty is out of Gods Design?
"rebuke evil", "Judge thy neighbour righteously", "the unrighteous will not inherent the kingdom of heaven"
How simple-minded to quote and interpret the Bible laterally-- anyone can say the Bible is exactly what God says instead of what certain people, rulers and church said back then
So is divorced. Perhaps more folks would have empathy especially divorcees if they followed the bible regarding this . Knowing they should not remarry unless the initial spouse dies. God HATES divorce.
God hates ALL sin, lust & infidelity equally, justly & perfectly righteously!
I’m gay and celibate and this is making sense to me very well explained
There is no “homosexual lifestyle” anymore than there is a “heterosexual lifestyle”! Your use of such a stereotypical expression speaks volumes. I can’t believe people accept such-hook, line, and sinker.
Is he applying to be the senior pastor at Westboro Baptist?
Don't hate the messenger, hate the truth!
@JohnDoe003 I don't hate anyone but I wish he would stop distorting the truth.
@@randymar3852 Nah, you hate the messenger & the truth. If not then go ahead and tell us the truth and provide evidence.
@@JohnDoe003 Genesis 2:18 and 1 Corinthians 7:9...you think these verses apply only to those who are opposite-sex attracted?
@@randymar3852 It's right there in black & white just read the chapter not a verse you foolish mocker! Genesis 2:22.
But if you feel so inclined God ironically has a hilarious truth for you in the next verse right after in Genesis 2:10 God gave them beasts & fowls. So they maybe ought get a dog or a bird & be greatful.
In 1 Corinthians 7:10 as well as all versus before put your mockery to shame. 1 Corinthians 7 literally says quote, "Let every man have a wife, and every woman have a husband". It says nothing about those who forsake God for lust of a person of the same sex, that would be Romans 1.
1 Corinthians 7:9 tells you in the surrounding verses it's talking about "unmarried & widows" whom again "Let every man a wife & every woman a husband". No where in the Bible does it ever say, Let a man have a husband or a woman have a wife, or let a man have 1 husband & 1 wife, a woman have 2 husband's & a wife etc. Nor does the Bible ever say, He, a man that findeth a husband findeth a good thing. Nope, the Bible says, "He that findeth a wife findeth a good thing".
You have no evidence or support. You are mocking the word of God. "You lose! Good day sir!"
What is so sad about this whole preaching is here you have a guy, whos never been gay, whos probably never even had gay friends, but all of the sudden he is an expert on it. Then he spits out that more people are gay now than before. Thats because things have gotten more safe for people than before. No one is passing laws to put people in Jail anymore. No one is banning places because its gay. And all people realize now, its not the boogy man you make us out to be. Sir, if your going to talk about this subject do it from a position of LOVE, do it with members of the rainbow nation there. And have a discourse with them infront of your audience. If being gay was agianst nature, and immoral, then God would have wiped us out, like he did the Giants and other evil civilizations. But no, we compliment the family, we are part of Gods design for we fill the gap when our brothers and sisters cant take care of their kids financially. With more people on earth than ever before, wouldnt it make sense to have gay people to control the population. Tell me how its sexually immoral if it doesnt hurt anyone? NO ONE...adultery, hurts people, rape hurts people, fornication hurts people, incest hurts people. being gay hurts no one because according to you, we cant marry, so therefore we cant commit adultery, fornication, incest, etc. Why is it then when an Angel appears on earth they are always male? Brother, God creates in a spectrum, and the spectrum is the rainbow, and the rainbow cannot exist without light. Put that in your sermon next time and send me a message so I can watch it.
It's not God's desire that any of us should perish and that's why He hasn't wiped us out. If it deviates from God's word it is displeasure to God and in this case an abomination. If your against His word then don't serve Him. Many think they serve Him cause they are in the Bible and profess His word but the devil is so crafty and deceives many. If it were at all possible even the most elect would be deceived. I've been deceived and am willing to admit this and turn away. God's been knocking on the door of my heart to tell me that my ways are wrong and warning comes before destruction. Choose as you please. Your not serving the God of the Bible. Many think they are depart from me you worker of iniquity I never knew you. I desire for Him to know me. He's preaching from the word and that's all I need to be convinced especially if I call myself Christian
@@AKLogistics-lk1pv you're not being specific about what God sees as displeasure in this situation? and by your words, you seem to suggest that somehow the members of the rainbow nation will perish. and don't tell me I am not serving the God of the bible when you vote and worship a false idol who is orange. and pays pornstars. who is now a felon. let go of your pride, that's one of the seven deadly sins. being gay is not one of them. I don't know what bible you are reading but the one I read doesn't condemn us. If anything it affirms us. Read Matthew, "For there are Eunuchs who are born from their mother's womb" The first ever recorded Christian in the bible was an EUNUCH. You're like the modern-day pharisee who is stuck in tradition and what other men tell you to think rather than reading the word for what it is.
@AKLogistics-lk1pv my God put me together in my mother's womb and made me just the way I am, your problem is not really with me, but with our creator, IF HE HAS MADE ME WORTHY, WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT IM NOT! NO ONE!
As a Christian, if your child comes out as transgender, do you honor their wishes and treat them and refer to them as the gender they identify by?
We honor GOD in HIS Glory in how HE created our children. That wasn't based on our kids feelings.
Do u follow what God says or what the word teaches 🤔⁉️
No, you are the parent. If you are a true follower of Christ then you seek HIS answer & HIS will. And Christ knew your children before they were born. The Lord knew you & your child might struggle with this but that HE would lead you to the answer which is to follow HIM. HE has never made a mistake. He did not put people in the wrong body. People were born the gender they were born as for a reason. They were not born to mutilate or manipulate their body to recreate God's design. That is not of God that is of evil. God wants parents & children to love & understand each other but they can do this by understanding the will of God. God doesn't want suffering or conflict with your child but rather a parental & unconditional love that only God is perfect at. God has never nor will ever call you of a different name or gender than you were born as, or as HE created you as. Besides it's not about your child's will it's about God's. And the Lord & the Holy spirit are specifically here to enlighten you of those truths. All you have to do is seek the truth in the Bible & pray and ask for guidance. Leave it up to HIM and follow HIS truth & answers for you & your family. May the Lord bless & guide your family.
God says not to have pleasure in it. I don't think He meant to disown child tho but Moreno help them to overcome and walk in deliverance
@69Fabulosity The Holy spirit teaches what is written. You need no man to teach you anything but His spirit will lead you into all truth
The "deserve to die" part doesn't fit well with me...
Help those who are troubled, not saying they should die, that's not helpful..
"All who are sinners are worthy of death" "the wages of sin is death"
You are spiritually dead & die when you sin and become of sin all humans are worthy of mortal death which is why none escape it. We all 'deserve to die' for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ but thankfully through His grace & sacrifice we can be saved, repent & be redeemed through Him when we accept His will & truth and follow only Him!
Your neurotic and bigoted religion is the real problem @@JohnDoe003
Its okay its wrong just accept it. Live and love no sex
The bible says homosexuality Can't enter the kingdom of God in 1 Corinthian 6:9-10 NIV .Really God say that through his disciples .
Well thats your first problem right there...your reading the from the LAZY BOOK, the Nearly inspired version. In the original greek text the word "homosexual" did not exist. It was added, just like other verses.
Mark 16:9-20:
In the KJV, these verses contain stories of Jesus' appearances after His resurrection.
Many modern translations, including the NIV, note that these verses are not present in the earliest and most reliable manuscripts, suggesting that they were likely added later.
John 7:53-8:11 (The Woman Caught in Adultery):
This passage, where Jesus forgives a woman caught in adultery, is included in the KJV but is absent or bracketed in many modern translations due to manuscript variations.
1 John 5:7-8 (The Johannine Comma):
The KJV includes a passage about the Trinity that is not found in most Greek manuscripts. Modern translations omit this passage.
Acts 9:6-7:
In the KJV, Saul (later known as the apostle Paul) asks, "What wilt thou have me to do?" In the NIV, it's rendered as "What do you want me to do?"
Those that are too lazy to read the bible for what it truly says are doomed to not understand anything. Hence, go back and learn what it really says regarding this topic. You can start by first discovering when the WORD HOMOSEXUAL was invented, and then when it was added to the modern bible like yours. After that, read your own false bible and what it says are the punishments for ADDING TO GODS WORD!
@@pv8340 God created Male and Female and commanded them to multiply.Homosexuality are
weird and immoral.
@@pv8340Now I’m hearing some real truths! Well said.
If it's in the word and you profess to love God and live by His word then it applies to you and me. I renounce homosexuality right now from my life and pray for forgiveness from God. I pray that the person I was involved with recognizes the error of their ways as well and repent. Sin is pleasurable for a moment. I desire to live according to the righteousness of God and aim for perfection. Don't work to live by some word but strive to live on every word that proceeded out the mouth of the Most High God. Keep me lifted up in prayer. Blessings.
We are all sinners only.God is without sin. We all fall short of Gods graces in one way or another so do not judge less not be judged. Not to mean being gay is a sin but sinners can't judge look in the mirror.
God sinned. He flooded the earth, killed people, favored people, caused confusion, and many other evil acts. There are many other sins. And, Jesus sinned. Cursing and kicking pigs, getting angry, destroying property, magic, turning fishes into loaves, not condemning homosexuality. Jesus didn't wash his hand before eating. You know that "cleanliness is next to Godliness". Not washing one's hands was a sin.
Even within your own Bible, it gives examples of God doing evil things, and Jesus doing bad things.
Christianity will pass. Homosexuality remains forever.
Well, I don't know about you, but I've always thought that sensuality, love, sweetness and affection between men was completely natural and normal for some men. Following a recent revelation, I'm absolutely sure that Jesus too was gay - the one that Jesus loved in the garden of Gethsemane and the young man running away naked and all that. The absolute bottom line for my gay and bisexual readers has to be that you have complete freedom of thought and freedom of conscience to make up your own mind on these issues and so don't be led astray by homophobic bishops, priests, clergy, ministers, pastors, imams, Caliphas, rabbis and all the rest of it whose only concern is to direct you into unwanted celibate life! Your relationship with God/Allah/Yahweh and the Divine is yours alone and so take it and enjoy it and develop it in your own way and leave the religious homophobes to stew in their own juice! They're not spiritual people anyway and they don't want to grow so just walk away with your spirit and your dignity intact and leave them exactly where they are!
“Those who have been forgiven much, Love much.” ❤️ “What is outside of God’s design is not outside of God’s redemption.” 🙏
" I'm absolutely sure that Jesus too was gay", repent and be very careful what you lay at the feet of the Lord. you seems to be a very rebellious person.
Omg, I would ask you to ask for forgiveness but I see you already far gone
@End of days that person is a lost cause, I'm shock he even writes that
Thank you sincerely.
You can be LGBT and Christian 👬
Where can I find that in scripture, The word of GOD?!?!
Yes but you won't get into heaven
@@godzshadow9001 the purpose of the Bible is to prove that you're not up to its standards and so you should return and do what God commanded from the beginning which is to trust him and not eat from the Tree of knowledge then you can eat from the Tree of life. This is the gospel.
@@Chris-qi5kn Are you concerned with your Self-Preservation or loving someone else? I say you're already in the same sex relationship; a lover of yourself. If you're concerned with your Eternal Preservation, you're only thinking of yourself. That's who you're in a relationship with. Not God.
@@dansaber4427 You didn't answer my question