It's worth mentioning that there IS an XP version of the Wix filter available at O'Reilly for 13.99. I think Wix XP and the Purolator Boss are exceptional filters.
All three filters look very well-made and I especially like that upper bypass valve. Having said that, though, I think the hiflow gets the night as being the best one.
Definitely the Hiflow. All that media and holes in the center tube. I used Hiflow in my bike(cartridge) they're cheaper than k&n and just as good. Great video Pete. Thanks😊
I use HiFlo filters for last 15 years and have no issues at all. Sadly, there are too many fake HiFlo filters in our country. But it's easy to recognize them immediately in the parts shop. Just look in the thread hole - if you see too many glue and curved filter media - it's 100% fake. Oh, and the green color at the box is not very green:) Thank you for this video, nice job, as usual!
Nice comparison..I use the Hiflo on my 3 HD's for the past few years ever since a recommendation from Baxter's Garage in Winder GA. You gave more confirmation in the product!
oh nice! was going to cut open my hi flow after the next oil change on my new to me 2000fxdwg after doing an oil change end of seaons this fall, looks like its good to go, few more on the way!
Good morning Pete, I always look forward to Fridays to watch another filter video of yours. Always cool. I was surprised at the differences in these three. Thanks again and hope you have a good weekend my friend.
I just changed my oil on the Honda Fury. I put a Hi Flo hf 204 on it the last oil change. I cut it opened and was impressed with the build quality of the hi flo. I put on a Fram 6017a this time. In 3000 miles I will compare the Hi flo with the Fram. Great video.
Great comparison! Had no idea that there are so many different oil filters on the market untill I started watching your videos! Thanks for sharing your review with all of us on here! Enjoy this beautiful spring day! 👍😊
I’ve used that exact Harley filter on my ‘95 Road King for almost 30 years and 146,000 miles. Regular oil/filter changes and paying attention to your machine equals longevity.
I would need to know the micron rating and the type of filter media used to make the best evaluation choice here. The HD filter can is thicker walled, but what wall thickness is required in the application to avoid bursting. The # of holes in the baseplate only matters if the total surface area of the holes is smaller and restricts flow; otherwise the baseplate is stronger with fewer perforations. I personally don't care for the leaf spring for pressure control, but they are cost effective. I think if there is room for a longer Wix filter, and if one is available, that would be my pick. I've built and race cars and motorcycles which change filtering priorities. In racing you use a screen type filter to catch shrapnel if something breaks under hard use, as oil flow is the main objective and you change the oil after the race. For street and highway you want to filter the oil only to a point before the filter becomes a restriction itself. Change oil often, use the best you can afford and enjoy the machine.
The Fram has a larger rubber flapper gasket that prevents unfiltered oil from draining back into the engine when the motor is off. It has the bigger spring and bypass and even pleats, and from the break downs I’ve seen, it’s a much better filter than these here. And it’s like $12 dollars. I remember all the negative issues with Fram from years ago but their quality has improved here lately. I’ve never had any failure from a Fram and never had issues with abnormal wear in the engines I’ve used them on. Had a Honda Accord go 287,000 miles using Fram filters from the first oil change and that engine was still very strong when I sold it. Guy who bought it was the salesman at the dealership and he let his daughter use that car for college and when they finally sold it, it had over 450,000 miles on it. Still running great.
I use hiflo filters on my bike love them...found out there are 2 filters for my bike from hiflo....one without the nut on the end and one with the nut...I have used both...but I got a great deal on eBay for buying 8 filters....for about 8 bucks a piece....down to 2 left and about to order more.....
Harley filter is supposed to be 5 micron never heard of oil filter less than 20 micron .good video only missing the fram ph 6065. Jay w case has video comparing old new harley against fram if any harley guys are interested. I've been using the 6065b but I like that hiflo
That nut doesn't always translate into filter removal. I hade one that wouldn't come off. Had to use a strap wrench . Well really just my belt used as a wrench
Thanks, Pete. Harley for the loss. I have not heard anything good about modern Harley filters. The orher two filters would definitely be a better choice. I sell a good number of Amsoil oil change kits for Harley motorcycles. Now, that I have seen the internals on a Harley filter, I can see why.
I can't give you that answer because I dont have the necessary equipment to test these filters, but I think if it was any better than 99% at 20 microns they would be putting that info on the filter box, as that would be a good selling point.
Glad harley went to spin on oil filters ! My 81 sturgis takes a cartridge filter and its located in the oil tank under the seat ! But definitely the hi/flo for the win👍
Next up juggling four filters? I've noticed that various filters results in higher and lower oil pressures based on media. I wonder how the HIFLOW would do in that respect.
LOL, Hi Jim, Yep, that's the whole thing how much is too much filtration, the better the micron rating the more restrictive the filter media will be. I would think the Hiflo would be more restrictive but would it matter? I dont know.
@@WhipCityWrencher It really matters on my Cummins 5.9L as the engine runs at a very low RPM. The limits are 10psi at idle, 30psi at operating, and 65psi is the engine's bypass mechanism. I'm constantly having to downshift to keep above the 30psi with some filters. I like the Donaldson, but aFe seems to flow better. Just no idea what the aFe's micron rating is as they don't publish it.
@@mutantryeff I know nothing about diesel engines as I never had one or worked on one. Have you ever tried a Fleetguard? Offhand, I dont know what your filter size would be, but some of them have very good micron ratings. Your Donaldson has one of the best micron ratings out there so probably somewhat restrictive?
@@WhipCityWrencher I have used Fleetguard - both the standard and the extreme versions (don't remember what they call them). It gets even worse for me in the summer when we routinely have 100F+ temps. I run a straight 40W as 15W40 thins out too fast for me. I've tried 50W in the summer and that doesn't help much, so I stick with the 40W. A diesel is unique given its ability to operate at super low RPMs given the high torque.
Harley filter made by Champ Labs. They are the only ones I've seen using that type bypass design. Some M1 used use it. They also make the premium HD "5 micron" synthetic media filter. I put 5um in quotes because they don't give a % with it, so meaningless. I'm going to say one shown cellulose type, at most blended. HiFlo looks ok, too bad not made in USA and no efficiency rating. At least the Wix is an original design with based end bypass piece. But, made in Mexico and 50%@21um. The others have no rating so could be similar. So, of the three on appearance alone, take the "HiFlo". Thanks for vid.
Looks like Harleys base plate is galvanized. I don't like louvers on WIX because of your video on closed holes. I guess Hi Flo is the best because of filter. Too bad u can't take all good & make an excellent one. 😁👍
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To me it looks like the HiFlo filter has too many pleats, too close together, what do you think?
The HIFLOW definitely looks better made than the others.
It's worth mentioning that there IS an XP version of the Wix filter available at O'Reilly for 13.99. I think Wix XP and the Purolator Boss are exceptional filters.
I agree, Thanks for the feedback👍
Hiflow for the win
All three filters look very well-made and I especially like that upper bypass valve. Having said that, though, I think the hiflow gets the night as being the best one.
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the feedback 👍
Definitely the Hiflow. All that media and holes in the center tube. I used Hiflow in my bike(cartridge) they're cheaper than k&n and just as good. Great video Pete. Thanks😊
Hi John,
Thanks for Sharing👍
been using hiflofiltro for years they work great and are cheaper price
I use HiFlo filters for last 15 years and have no issues at all. Sadly, there are too many fake HiFlo filters in our country. But it's easy to recognize them immediately in the parts shop. Just look in the thread hole - if you see too many glue and curved filter media - it's 100% fake. Oh, and the green color at the box is not very green:) Thank you for this video, nice job, as usual!
You're Welcome!
Thank You! and Thanks for Sharing👍
Nice comparison..I use the Hiflo on my 3 HD's for the past few years ever since a recommendation from Baxter's Garage in Winder GA. You gave more confirmation in the product!
Thank You😊
and Thanks for Sharing👍
oh nice! was going to cut open my hi flow after the next oil change on my new to me 2000fxdwg after doing an oil change end of seaons this fall, looks like its good to go, few more on the way!
Good morning Pete, I always look forward to Fridays to watch another filter video of yours. Always cool. I was surprised at the differences in these three. Thanks again and hope you have a good weekend my friend.
Good morning! Thank You Very much, Much Appreciated! and Have a Great weekend also!👍
I love the great info you put out there.
Thank You👍
I just changed my oil on the Honda Fury. I put a Hi Flo hf 204 on it the last oil change. I cut it opened and was impressed with the build quality of the hi flo. I put on a Fram 6017a this time. In 3000 miles I will compare the Hi flo with the Fram. Great video.
Thanks! and Thanks for sharing👍
HiFlo for sure.
Great comparison! Had no idea that there are so many different oil filters on the market untill I started watching your videos! Thanks for sharing your review with all of us on here! Enjoy this beautiful spring day! 👍😊
Hi Ella,
Yep, there are a lot of them. Have a great weekend👍
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks! 😊
Why are the manufacturers so secretive on the efficiency and micron rating? What are they hiding? Great job Pete as usual 👍
I know, I wish they would publish more info on their filters as well.
Thanks, Dwayne👍
😏 Because it is really not important.
Great video! Now I know why my Harley friends don't use the OEM filter. Some even use a AC Delco filter, anything but a HD.
Thanks👍
Harley makes money every time you bring the bike in. They don’t care about selling you the best oil or filter.
Best filter review ever
Thank You sr 👌🏽
You're Welcome 👍I appreciate the compliment, Thanks!😊
I’ve used that exact Harley filter on my ‘95 Road King for almost 30 years and 146,000 miles. Regular oil/filter changes and paying attention to your machine equals longevity.
Thanks for Sharing👍
I would need to know the micron rating and the type of filter media used to make the best evaluation choice here. The HD filter can is thicker walled, but what wall thickness is required in the application to avoid bursting. The # of holes in the baseplate only matters if the total surface area of the holes is smaller and restricts flow; otherwise the baseplate is stronger with fewer perforations. I personally don't care for the leaf spring for pressure control, but they are cost effective. I think if there is room for a longer Wix filter, and if one is available, that would be my pick. I've built and race cars and motorcycles which change filtering priorities. In racing you use a screen type filter to catch shrapnel if something breaks under hard use, as oil flow is the main objective and you change the oil after the race. For street and highway you want to filter the oil only to a point before the filter becomes a restriction itself. Change oil often, use the best you can afford and enjoy the machine.
Thanks👍
Here from Christina’s channel 👍
Hi bo,
Thanks for stopping by👍
The Fram has a larger rubber flapper gasket that prevents unfiltered oil from draining back into the engine when the motor is off. It has the bigger spring and bypass and even pleats, and from the break downs I’ve seen, it’s a much better filter than these here. And it’s like $12 dollars. I remember all the negative issues with Fram from years ago but their quality has improved here lately. I’ve never had any failure from a Fram and never had issues with abnormal wear in the engines I’ve used them on. Had a Honda Accord go 287,000 miles using Fram filters from the first oil change and that engine was still very strong when I sold it. Guy who bought it was the salesman at the dealership and he let his daughter use that car for college and when they finally sold it, it had over 450,000 miles on it. Still running great.
Wouldn't it be great if you knew how many microns each filter material was rated?
Ran HD filter it collapsed and caused trouble.
Been running Hiflo for about 20k km now, not one problem.
Dont know the 3rd brand.
Thanks for Sharing👍
Hi here from Christina’s channel 👍
Hello, thanks for stopping by👍
Hi flo bypass valve will allow the filter to flow both directions, no important unless the oil lines are backwards, don’t ask me how I know….
Things I never new. Thanks friend 👍
Hi Christina, Thanks.
Have a Great weekend👍
I use hiflo filters on my bike love them...found out there are 2 filters for my bike from hiflo....one without the nut on the end and one with the nut...I have used both...but I got a great deal on eBay for buying 8 filters....for about 8 bucks a piece....down to 2 left and about to order more.....
Thanks for Sharing👍
Harley filter is supposed to be 5 micron never heard of oil filter less than 20 micron .good video only missing the fram ph 6065. Jay w case has video comparing old new harley against fram if any harley guys are interested. I've been using the 6065b but I like that hiflo
Thank you for your videos !!!
Thanks, Jensen
You're Welcome👍
Can you convert the number of holes by their diameter to do a comparison of how much area the holes occupy? thanks,
Sorry no,
I wouldn't know where to start, but I'm sure the area of the inlet holes match or exceeds the area of the outlet hole.
Thanks👍
Been using a K&N. I like it because of the built in nut on the filter
K&N + Amsoil gives me wonderful peace of mind.👍
That nut doesn't always translate into filter removal. I hade one that wouldn't come off. Had to use a strap wrench . Well really just my belt used as a wrench
Thanks, Pete.
Harley for the loss. I have not heard anything good about modern Harley filters. The orher two filters would definitely be a better choice. I sell a good number of Amsoil oil change kits for Harley motorcycles. Now, that I have seen the internals on a Harley filter, I can see why.
You're Welcome Jonathan
Thanks!👍
Two of the filters have my preference of a coil spring and two of filters have my preference of a base end bypass valve.
K&N?
IMHO. K&N are less restrictive but have poorer filtration.
Idk why but I always ended buying Hiflo back in the day
Is there a point where a filter can be too restrictive? That’s my question about the hiflo. Not knowing this answer I might pick the wix
I can't give you that answer because I dont have the necessary equipment to test these filters, but I think if it was any better than 99% at 20 microns they would be putting that info on the filter box, as that would be a good selling point.
@@WhipCityWrencher thank you for your thoughts
Hiflo is defiantly the best looking plus much more media. Sloppy glue on the Harley would be my last choice
Glad harley went to spin on oil filters ! My 81 sturgis takes a cartridge filter and its located in the oil tank under the seat ! But definitely the hi/flo for the win👍
Hi Scotty,
They had spin-ons back then too. I had an 83 Sportster 1000 back in the 80's and it had a spin on, oil filter. I miss that bike. Thanks👍
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Next up juggling four filters? I've noticed that various filters results in higher and lower oil pressures based on media. I wonder how the HIFLOW would do in that respect.
LOL,
Hi Jim,
Yep, that's the whole thing how much is too much filtration, the better the micron rating the more restrictive the filter media will be. I would think the Hiflo would be more restrictive but would it matter? I dont know.
@@WhipCityWrencher It really matters on my Cummins 5.9L as the engine runs at a very low RPM. The limits are 10psi at idle, 30psi at operating, and 65psi is the engine's bypass mechanism. I'm constantly having to downshift to keep above the 30psi with some filters. I like the Donaldson, but aFe seems to flow better. Just no idea what the aFe's micron rating is as they don't publish it.
@@mutantryeff I know nothing about diesel engines as I never had one or worked on one. Have you ever tried a Fleetguard? Offhand, I dont know what your filter size would be, but some of them have very good micron ratings. Your Donaldson has one of the best micron ratings out there so probably somewhat restrictive?
@@WhipCityWrencher I have used Fleetguard - both the standard and the extreme versions (don't remember what they call them). It gets even worse for me in the summer when we routinely have 100F+ temps. I run a straight 40W as 15W40 thins out too fast for me. I've tried 50W in the summer and that doesn't help much, so I stick with the 40W. A diesel is unique given its ability to operate at super low RPMs given the high torque.
Harley filter made by Champ Labs. They are the only ones I've seen using that type bypass design. Some M1 used use it. They also make the premium HD "5 micron" synthetic media filter. I put 5um in quotes because they don't give a % with it, so meaningless. I'm going to say one shown cellulose type, at most blended. HiFlo looks ok, too bad not made in USA and no efficiency rating. At least the Wix is an original design with based end bypass piece. But, made in Mexico and 50%@21um. The others have no rating so could be similar. So, of the three on appearance alone, take the "HiFlo". Thanks for vid.
You're Welcome faxmen09,
Thanks for your feedback👍👍
@@WhipCityWrencher 👍
I use to like wix filters but when they changed too Mann and Hummel there quality has gone down
Hiflo is all I use for my bikes, they are cheaper than most on Amazon, they are very robust, never had one let me down.
Hi Cody,
Thanks for sharing👍
Thanks for another great video Whip👍
Awesome comparison Pete! Oil filter Friday rocks! 👍 TFS Merri :)
Thanks, Merri
Have a great weekend, I think the sun is supposed to come out, lol😊
Definitely the HiFlo ,the Harley filter has so many holes in it that it probably leaks thru as much as a actual Harley leaks oil on the ground 😂
🤣LOL, Hey Mark I used to own a Harley, mine had no leaks. Good one. lol👍
One of the reasons we harley owners change oil at 2,500 is due to that crappy filter. A shame whoever make them does not do better.
Air cooled runs much hotter also.
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Hiflo.k n both same makers....hiflo are normally decent
Looks like Harleys base plate is galvanized. I don't like louvers on WIX because of your video on closed holes. I guess Hi Flo is the best because of filter. Too bad u can't take all good & make an excellent one. 😁👍
Ah the perfect oil filter, I don't think they make one LOL😊👍
I'm pretty sure the Harley filter is a Fram
First
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All this oil stuff has been beaten to death, you're just after views.
Cry some more 😭😢