Also - 5% of the people have done an achievement doesn't mean anything if it is really only counting people who paid. Maybe 80% did it, but didnt pay for the trophy
bounties usually keep players, playing. Cuz people like to get them all done- its keeps them playing and maybe buying from the store. BUT having to pay for them is just mental. Anyone who pays for this is just silly.
if thats true thats really nuts, especially when in the dev stream there preview of it showed a wall full of them in a territory. false advertising too?? thinking more than 1 is placeable and maybe there are special ones that only 1 can be placed of. maybe its like 1 of each star or something. regardless THIS SHOULDNT BE PAID!! That also being said new cosmetic system is so right.
"vip 12 everywhere" a gacha player im assuming, or browser game? maybe the new browser game that they have been formatting as mobile games lately? yes charging for something that for years and years has been something thats always been free is a deal breaker. love that its "f2p consumer" but im cool with bi monthly gambling boxes, battlepasses w. 2 versions, meta passes, glass pack, all the other worshop pack, the 20-30$ a peice skins etc. also just wanna point out luxurious battlepass every pass, meta pass every 30 days, planning on paying 50$ for the glass pack myself even tho seems a bit steep but..... i will give them credit for updating it for free so ill deal with 50$ price. just saying tho its not about whether you spend on the game or not, its the principles of paying for achievements and i refuse. in refrence to other games even on p2w in fallout 76 im cool with the p2w in it bcuz they let you earn there permium currency all be it at a limited amount, ya still earn it and ya arnt disadvantaged. id be okay with p2w style items even in this game over paying for achievements. its the base principles of gaming. thanks for assuming im a f2p consumer tho , ill also mention in the last game i gave 10 years too was destiny and it was 100$ a year for new content. not to mention all the microtranscations it also has ( not many p2w, some pay to earn faster tho. its not about someone being f2p complaining about paying for achievments, its about this not being a thing in gaming and allowing ANY Company to charge you for achievements is a big big mistake.
Unpopular opinion: You're paying for a cosmetic item. The checkboxes that come with them are arbitrary. You can totally do those "challenges" without paying a dime. Just write your own achievements on paper. Lol Yes, it's ridiculous. Just don't buy the "DLC".
You say they are milking you and yet you can play the entire game without paying, i havent spent a single dime and I have been in the top of my server if you get milked is because you dont have any selfcontrol, the most rich guy in game has 0 advantage vs a f2p this is the first game I have seen like be 1000% pure ftp. Be thankful of the freaking whales paying so u can play for free @@OGBeastt
i dont play for free tho, i buy a battlepass semi monthly, a meta pass monthly ,and when i want to build with glass to bad ill be spending 50$ on the glass pack. i also wouldnt mind trying a lootbox if i ever get the extra cash and want to scratch a gambling itch. I just can not in anyway justify paid achievements, and they should be free period. its gaming culture, nothing to do with not wanting the game to make money smh. the game has had a huge shift in how they put out content and has went wayyy to the side of monetized content normal, new content very very rarely, (anything non qol or keep you busy updates is slated q3 of 2025.) But you bet your bottom there will be lootboxes every 2 weeks , and a whole heap more monetization to come up between now and q3 25. closer it gets to being a mobile game, the more you will see. im fine with cosmetics, im fine with more monetization. but some systems should never become a part of any games monetization system and one of those systems is achievements. you let them get away with this and who knows what else they will add to the paid list , no cool down for territory limit for 6.99 a month next? (id honestly probably pay that one) im even fine with an optional shop that could boost your progress in game, i would never use it and as long as they dont make it to where not using it hurts players who can spend good time on it, would not be an issue and is less offensive then paid achievments. id even be cool with them charging 3 bucks a pop for 5/5 deviations (as long a they didnt make it a loot box) optional p2w monetization is fine and welcome if it means them not putting core systems like achievements behind paywalls.
yes its milking , you solo leas lab in under 20 minutes, thats a feat, gonna bring them dopamine levels up, then you see its only 5$ and why not , then you see you've completed another , oh this ones 4 why not , and so on. dopamine milking at its finest.
I was literally going to come home after work to make a video on this..But i'm beyond disgusted about monetizing achievements.... This basically lost me...I can not defend this and can not promote a game that would basically say we cant give anything new for almost a year, but here have these things if your willing to pay us for it.
its just a core gamer thing i think is why the paid achievement's piss me off so badly. its not even about this game being money hungry anymore thats like an insult to gaming kind charging for achievements. i thought that was like in the gaming bible to never charge for achievements smh.
@@OGBeastt This exactly. And as a core gamer myself, I have seen many games start with little things like this and eventually getting even more greedy and destroying the game play value by initiating content hidden behind paywalls. People need to understand, this is literally a slap in the face. This is not paying for cosmetics by simply going into marketplace and purchasing things. This is tricking you to pay for something that you could of gotten for something you would already normally do. Literally charging for in-game achievements for a trophy you can only place one of. Saddest thing is, they could not even go over it when they discussed it in the live-stream. They made it sound so good like they were giving us something we asked for and failed to mention it was behind a paywall.
@@GurgashGaming no this IS paying for a cosmetic. Why do you care if its paid or not? If you can do the achievement yourself and earned the trophies....great? Good job? Other people who just want to decorate will see it as just that, decoration. Even IRL you can go and buy yourself a trophy and done deal. You see people whining about that?
people whining about people deciding to buy a fake trophy? nah? i mean? nah? why is that even close to comparison to this? this isnt a "fake" trophy, it requires you to actually achieve something. a trophy is a "a cup or other decorative object awarded as a prize for a victory or success." by definition, and awarded by definition is "give or order the giving of (something) as an official payment, compensation, or prize to (someone)." so whys it cool to complete the objective but not get the offical payment, compensation or prize unless you Give the game offical, payment , compensation or prize? This is a trophy system, not a cosmetic system. calling it a cosmetic system is just brain rot defending of a game no matter what actions the game takes.
Even as someone who doesn’t mind spending money, I think it’s getting out of control. Even the new light forge was like $300 that’s double the last two. SMH
Thanks! I didn't realize you had to spend real world dollars for this. I just dismissed it when I saw how insane these were. Do LEA, solo? I've not completed it with my buddy on 5 attempts let alone solo!
💯 with you, this was exactly my thought. Loot crates are predatory and I wont support, but this is beyond that. If this goes through it won't be long until they release special dungeons for 590 ceystogen 🤷♂️
Having to pay to unlock the opportunity to work towards an achievement is disgusting. As much as I enjoy the game, I hope the Devs get some serious flack for this. A note about Way of Winter. I could live with the bugs, at least some of them, but the main thing that turned me off from Winter was the choice to alter how Hard / Pro mods were obtained. Splitting the mods up and in some cases not even offering a chest to be able to pick which set of mods, seems short sighted. In fact, honestly it seems like Way of Winter should be locked behind a requirement of completing Manibus. As Way of Winter feels very much like a scenario you are not meant to create a fresh character on.
pro mode silos and monoliths drop self selection boxes, each silo drops a specific gear or couple gears worth of mods where to farm mods in winter, if your after self selection boxes, youll need to get a pro clerable build up but heres my guide on where to farm mods w. manibus and winter locations : ruclips.net/video/lStTeFDhRqU/видео.html
i don't like the gambling wish machine system much. I also agree the pricing is insane. I men if i enjoy the game I want to buy something but you get so little. Digital outfits are as much as real ones!
It’s a free game…. Micro transactions for optional stuff is OPTIONAL! Want it? Pay for it. Or be strong and DONT! STAR TREK ONLINE and Star Wars the old republic does the same kind of thing, as does games like Conan exiles and others…. And most of them lock away end game content behind a subscription requirement. Whatever…
literally all im saying is dont pay for achievments bcuz no other real game has done this. you listed out a bunch of not so good games to begin with. "star trek online" well duuh bro its star trek there only people playing are star trek mega fans, anyone not a star trek fan sees 1 picture of the quality of that game and says no thanks fam. star wars? oh yea the shit that people will spend literally thousands upon thousand of dollars collecting shit for, so you wonder why a game that is only target audience is a star wars mega fan so much of a fan that they want to play star wars, and want it all the time smh. there are literally normal star wars games you can play ,and most are priced at most 10$ on steam most of the time unless there a really recent release. as for conan exiles.... seeing as how its a playstation and xbox release im sure trophies are where they should be....... in the trophy system built into xbox not being charged for. accepting paid achievments and before we know it steam , xbox, and playstaion gonna have a damn subscription system to unlock achievements......
@ actually Conan exiles is ported to consoles. It’s a Pc title. And they too have micro transactions for cosmetic trophies, and well as costumes and building parts. But point taken.. I’ll admit I spent money on the game for things I wanted. Mostly cosmetic building parts. And refuse to waste hundreds for some random whatever. The colored boxes, then cosmetic shelves, the few furniture pieces ect…. But I pay a subscription and used what I get each month for that kind of stuff.
i covered this, yes if your in winter, then you will have to go to manibus, in manibus then your forced to go to winter. you will have to play 2 seasons worth of time to get the reward AND PAY FOR IT!
@ ah I missed it, doesn’t it end soon though? Like chapter 5 is in a day and change so it’s pretty dumb to force people to immediately jump into something else when honestly this has gotten pretty stale and boring sadly
Hey Gotcha, I kinda have a slight disagreement here. I just hopped to my third season yesterday, and I am actually enjoying how the devs try to minimize the pay to win element for this game (I said minimize because I feel some people believe that some paid cosmetics made it other players cant see them clearly, major advantage in pvp servers). On their new years live stream I believe that the devs are also committed to create a non-p2w game which is shown in this "pay for achievement" system among other new updates. I believe it is not an issue or a bad thing at all, but I believe the devs are still trying to try some alternatives to generate income FOR the game without making it p2w. I know some attempt -- like this "pay to achieve" system-- still rough on the edges or hard to accept on logic, but all I can see is the devs are trying and their efforts are commendable so far..
Charging For Achievements isn't cool period, the ones who buy loot crates prolly not gonna be the ones clearing lea solo in under 20, etc. so there missing the target audience to begin with. and a reminder lootcreates every 2 weeks, and the whales out there blow as much as it takes to get every skin.
do they force you to pay for it? you know what i do when i dont like the things they add? i ignore it and when things doesnt sound fun and boring for me i leave the game, thats it i dont waste my time crying about something you can just ignore and i know if people hate it they will leave and devs will see it and think what went wrong and do something better steam have an achievement that's enough for me, wouldn't care about ingame achievements
I would not be motivated to do this even if it was free. A trophy in my base doesn't inspire me. Since they are charging for it I definitely will not participate. I have purchased a couple of cosmetics to support the game and I might do so again when we have new content. The way they have been doing the loot crates (I will never purchase one) and now this is really sleazy. They should sell cosmetics for $1 to $2 and earn profit from volume. It seems these Devs are not gamers and do not like gamers. At nearly every step they have been releasing "features" that clearly do not respect the players. The foundation of the game (seasons) does not respect the time and effort players invest. This game had a lot of potential and could have been great from a different studio.
Dude, paid achievements are a new low. And there's actually a way to make this LESS horrible, they could've made the achievements free (maybe the medals too) and charge for the trophies! Is it a perefect solution? No, not by a long shot, BUT it would be less egregious.
Bounties should not be paid for. That's content for players. And isn't the point of bounties is we get rewarded? If you make us pay for them just give it to us as a cosmetic. Such BS
this is confirmed? if so only bcuz of feedback, i wouldnt shut up on the content creator chat either , some guy was like admin waking up to this, devs said they want us to express our feelings on things. So i did
complete something challenging in game? congrats you can now spend 1-5 dollars for an item to place in your territory to feel good about it. you should be proud you get to spend 1-5 dollars.
im a mega whale in the game i own 100% of all lootcrates rewards since day one and 100% of the game shop items money is not an issue for me but paying money for challenge? And then grind my A to get what i paid for? This is nonsence and the biggest scam ive seen so far...... The community should be loud and clear about this stupid update and no one should buy those challenges even if they cost 1 Crystgin
yes exactly, those willing to make excuses for the devs on this dont understand the culture of gaming. you do not pay to achieve anything in a game, especially when you gotta put in hella work for it.
Welcome to Gacha. Whales pay so you can play. This is absolutely unnecessary as far as purchases go. Just don't buy it, if you feel like you need to have it then congratulations, you fit the gacha demographic. I am completely fine not paying a single dime on this game and I can outgun most whales.
thing is ive played and whaled on dozens of gachas, and never in my life, even in gacha.... have i seen ANYONE , even netease themselves. Charge for achievments. if ya dont believe how much ive whalled check out my unlimited ninja vn playlist, tokyo ghoul rebirth, naruto x boruto ninja tribes, dokkan, naruto blazing before it went under, and a whole heap more. This fuels me bcuz in gaming hstory achievements have always been something free, even in gachas.
i know i mentioned blazings, shutdown but half the gachas i listed have all shutdown as well , watched there monetary practice to the ends, even in failing gachas they never stooped so low to charge for achievements, this is a pure greed thing on the companys part (probably netease breathing down devs neck about moar money)
It's both amusing and pathetic that players from first-world countries, where people earn much more than anywhere else, complain about a free-to-play game needing to make a profit. Even people from third-world countries don't have an issue with spending on in-game purchases. Get a better job and stop whining about it.
i mean.... i buy luxurious battlepass bi monthly, meta pass monthly, plan on paying 50$ for a glass pack, dont mind the loot creates but...... I CAN NOT STAND FOR PAID ACHIEVMENTS ITS PURELY A GAMING CULTURE THING, ACHIEVEMENTS AND TROPHYS ARE NEVER SOMETHING TO BE CHARGED FOR!
its sad and pathetic that even tho since the beginning of gaming history , achievements/ trophies have never been charged for. people have decided they are okay with paying for even achievement's.
take your "first world country" bs out of here, we got a damn orange in office starting the beginning of the year , we bout to be the most in debt country out here, paying more for everything, the rich will get richer ,and the middle class will slide closer and closer to the lower class. no one said in game transactions, this is about paid achievments.... which i mean seriusly? ya spend 200 hours in game to get something achieved AND have to pay for it? even goes against the definition of what a trophy is.
im not done with the game, just refusing to pay for achievments in literally any game on the planet,ever. i will start taking peices of paper and when i clear something challenging ill draw myself up a trophy and post it on my fridge before i spend a dime on achievments.
pay for trophies ,do me a favor and message steam, microsoft and sony and tell them you would love a subscription fee monthly for your achievements page to be viewable......
you understand that they too need to make money and they definitely dont make enough off there current subscriptions, or console sales, accesories, games etc. wake up sheep
@@OGBeastt Its simple, dont like it? Dont play it. Crying about it wont change anything. Most people dont seem to mind and liked the update in general.
the devs are willing to change some things, this isnt about whole update ,its about 1 single decision that they can change. its simple, make them not paid..... if no one buys them then they WILL MAKE CHANGES! They Have A very active feedback system where they monitor it constant for a good reason.
the dont like something the devs have done, quit the game argument is so ridiculous especially when even the devs say we value your feedback, they literally posted all there feedback forms etc. up in there discord today as an announcement that they value feedback and will change things when enough players complain..... why they have made the lootboxes slightly less pure gambly and claim to plan on making them a bit more affordable due to players feedback about the paid lootboxes. (not sure that was what they said, im betting its gonna be a diffrent garuntee to get after x draws system modify not a price drop) tbh im thinking they promised to make the items in lootboxes also purchasable for a set price in the shop and thats what changes are coming to lootbox , which im super for, id love to just go buy the tv blueprint in shop.
your acting like there isnt a whole ass shop, loot creates, monthly meta pass, bi monthly battlepass w. 2 editions, 50$ for glass walls, 50$ for neon stuff, etc. also id like to mention the loot crates are bi monthly aka every 2 weeks another one. This isnt make money somehow, this is make money every little way they can "aka" squeezing every drop of dollars out of every and all players, not just the whales.
i have high hopes for the vision wheel system, bloodmoon sounds pretty cool and will be intersting to see what other spins they throw on it on the seasons coming forward of the vision wheel. also the morphed deviations sounding cool.
Also - 5% of the people have done an achievement doesn't mean anything if it is really only counting people who paid. Maybe 80% did it, but didnt pay for the trophy
bounties usually keep players, playing. Cuz people like to get them all done- its keeps them playing and maybe buying from the store. BUT having to pay for them is just mental. Anyone who pays for this is just silly.
not only that - If I read it right - even if you pay for these, you can only place one in your territory at a time
if thats true thats really nuts, especially when in the dev stream there preview of it showed a wall full of them in a territory. false advertising too?? thinking more than 1 is placeable and maybe there are special ones that only 1 can be placed of. maybe its like 1 of each star or something. regardless THIS SHOULDNT BE PAID!! That also being said new cosmetic system is so right.
@@OGBeastt You can place multiple achievement trophies. But only 1 of each achievement.
@@GurgashGaming this^ pretty sure u can share these between characters? thats probably why
At leasts they dont add up to your decorations limit its the single good part about it...
@@OGBeastt Yah - I was just basing my comment on the in-game description
there's literally pay to win pay to progress and vip12 everywhere amd this is the deal breaker?
f2p consumers, ladies and gentlemen.
"vip 12 everywhere" a gacha player im assuming, or browser game? maybe the new browser game that they have been formatting as mobile games lately? yes charging for something that for years and years has been something thats always been free is a deal breaker. love that its "f2p consumer" but im cool with bi monthly gambling boxes, battlepasses w. 2 versions, meta passes, glass pack, all the other worshop pack, the 20-30$ a peice skins etc. also just wanna point out luxurious battlepass every pass, meta pass every 30 days, planning on paying 50$ for the glass pack myself even tho seems a bit steep but..... i will give them credit for updating it for free so ill deal with 50$ price. just saying tho its not about whether you spend on the game or not, its the principles of paying for achievements and i refuse. in refrence to other games even on p2w in fallout 76 im cool with the p2w in it bcuz they let you earn there permium currency all be it at a limited amount, ya still earn it and ya arnt disadvantaged. id be okay with p2w style items even in this game over paying for achievements. its the base principles of gaming. thanks for assuming im a f2p consumer tho , ill also mention in the last game i gave 10 years too was destiny and it was 100$ a year for new content. not to mention all the microtranscations it also has ( not many p2w, some pay to earn faster tho. its not about someone being f2p complaining about paying for achievments, its about this not being a thing in gaming and allowing ANY Company to charge you for achievements is a big big mistake.
Unpopular opinion: You're paying for a cosmetic item. The checkboxes that come with them are arbitrary. You can totally do those "challenges" without paying a dime. Just write your own achievements on paper. Lol
Yes, it's ridiculous. Just don't buy the "DLC".
correct, boycott at all cost.
You say they are milking you and yet you can play the entire game without paying, i havent spent a single dime and I have been in the top of my server if you get milked is because you dont have any selfcontrol, the most rich guy in game has 0 advantage vs a f2p this is the first game I have seen like be 1000% pure ftp. Be thankful of the freaking whales paying so u can play for free @@OGBeastt
i dont play for free tho, i buy a battlepass semi monthly, a meta pass monthly ,and when i want to build with glass to bad ill be spending 50$ on the glass pack. i also wouldnt mind trying a lootbox if i ever get the extra cash and want to scratch a gambling itch. I just can not in anyway justify paid achievements, and they should be free period. its gaming culture, nothing to do with not wanting the game to make money smh. the game has had a huge shift in how they put out content and has went wayyy to the side of monetized content normal, new content very very rarely, (anything non qol or keep you busy updates is slated q3 of 2025.) But you bet your bottom there will be lootboxes every 2 weeks , and a whole heap more monetization to come up between now and q3 25. closer it gets to being a mobile game, the more you will see. im fine with cosmetics, im fine with more monetization. but some systems should never become a part of any games monetization system and one of those systems is achievements. you let them get away with this and who knows what else they will add to the paid list , no cool down for territory limit for 6.99 a month next? (id honestly probably pay that one) im even fine with an optional shop that could boost your progress in game, i would never use it and as long as they dont make it to where not using it hurts players who can spend good time on it, would not be an issue and is less offensive then paid achievments. id even be cool with them charging 3 bucks a pop for 5/5 deviations (as long a they didnt make it a loot box) optional p2w monetization is fine and welcome if it means them not putting core systems like achievements behind paywalls.
yes its milking , you solo leas lab in under 20 minutes, thats a feat, gonna bring them dopamine levels up, then you see its only 5$ and why not , then you see you've completed another , oh this ones 4 why not , and so on. dopamine milking at its finest.
Lol u deleted my comment? Lmao 😂😂😂
Feels like defeating the end game boss then being told to deposit five bucks to get your loot.
lmao imagine if they remove controllers and make them a controller subscription
I was literally going to come home after work to make a video on this..But i'm beyond disgusted about monetizing achievements.... This basically lost me...I can not defend this and can not promote a game that would basically say we cant give anything new for almost a year, but here have these things if your willing to pay us for it.
have nothing if your willing to pay for it outside of a trophy for things you could have done since launch of scenario 2 ,yes.
its just a core gamer thing i think is why the paid achievement's piss me off so badly. its not even about this game being money hungry anymore thats like an insult to gaming kind charging for achievements. i thought that was like in the gaming bible to never charge for achievements smh.
@@OGBeastt This exactly. And as a core gamer myself, I have seen many games start with little things like this and eventually getting even more greedy and destroying the game play value by initiating content hidden behind paywalls. People need to understand, this is literally a slap in the face. This is not paying for cosmetics by simply going into marketplace and purchasing things. This is tricking you to pay for something that you could of gotten for something you would already normally do. Literally charging for in-game achievements for a trophy you can only place one of.
Saddest thing is, they could not even go over it when they discussed it in the live-stream. They made it sound so good like they were giving us something we asked for and failed to mention it was behind a paywall.
@@GurgashGaming no this IS paying for a cosmetic. Why do you care if its paid or not? If you can do the achievement yourself and earned the trophies....great? Good job? Other people who just want to decorate will see it as just that, decoration.
Even IRL you can go and buy yourself a trophy and done deal. You see people whining about that?
people whining about people deciding to buy a fake trophy? nah? i mean? nah? why is that even close to comparison to this? this isnt a "fake" trophy, it requires you to actually achieve something. a trophy is a "a cup or other decorative object awarded as a prize for a victory or success." by definition, and awarded by definition is "give or order the giving of (something) as an official payment, compensation, or prize to (someone)." so whys it cool to complete the objective but not get the offical payment, compensation or prize unless you Give the game offical, payment , compensation or prize? This is a trophy system, not a cosmetic system. calling it a cosmetic system is just brain rot defending of a game no matter what actions the game takes.
Even as someone who doesn’t mind spending money, I think it’s getting out of control. Even the new light forge was like $300 that’s double the last two. SMH
Yea, i like this game as well.. but when I realized that the trophies are for sale.. its a big NAH for the trophies..😂 I'll still play though..
Thanks! I didn't realize you had to spend real world dollars for this. I just dismissed it when I saw how insane these were. Do LEA, solo? I've not completed it with my buddy on 5 attempts let alone solo!
I would love to toss some money at the game. It's a really great game. However I'm not a skins or achievements player.
💯 with you, this was exactly my thought.
Loot crates are predatory and I wont support, but this is beyond that. If this goes through it won't be long until they release special dungeons for 590 ceystogen 🤷♂️
Having to pay to unlock the opportunity to work towards an achievement is disgusting. As much as I enjoy the game, I hope the Devs get some serious flack for this.
A note about Way of Winter. I could live with the bugs, at least some of them, but the main thing that turned me off from Winter was the choice to alter how Hard / Pro mods were obtained. Splitting the mods up and in some cases not even offering a chest to be able to pick which set of mods, seems short sighted.
In fact, honestly it seems like Way of Winter should be locked behind a requirement of completing Manibus. As Way of Winter feels very much like a scenario you are not meant to create a fresh character on.
pro mode silos and monoliths drop self selection boxes, each silo drops a specific gear or couple gears worth of mods where to farm mods in winter, if your after self selection boxes, youll need to get a pro clerable build up but heres my guide on where to farm mods w. manibus and winter locations : ruclips.net/video/lStTeFDhRqU/видео.html
Money simply makes the world go around
i don't like the gambling wish machine system much. I also agree the pricing is insane. I men if i enjoy the game I want to buy something but you get so little. Digital outfits are as much as real ones!
It’s a free game…. Micro transactions for optional stuff is OPTIONAL! Want it? Pay for it. Or be strong and DONT! STAR TREK ONLINE and Star Wars the old republic does the same kind of thing, as does games like Conan exiles and others…. And most of them lock away end game content behind a subscription requirement. Whatever…
literally all im saying is dont pay for achievments bcuz no other real game has done this. you listed out a bunch of not so good games to begin with. "star trek online" well duuh bro its star trek there only people playing are star trek mega fans, anyone not a star trek fan sees 1 picture of the quality of that game and says no thanks fam. star wars? oh yea the shit that people will spend literally thousands upon thousand of dollars collecting shit for, so you wonder why a game that is only target audience is a star wars mega fan so much of a fan that they want to play star wars, and want it all the time smh. there are literally normal star wars games you can play ,and most are priced at most 10$ on steam most of the time unless there a really recent release. as for conan exiles.... seeing as how its a playstation and xbox release im sure trophies are where they should be....... in the trophy system built into xbox not being charged for. accepting paid achievments and before we know it steam , xbox, and playstaion gonna have a damn subscription system to unlock achievements......
@ actually Conan exiles is ported to consoles. It’s a Pc title. And they too have micro transactions for cosmetic trophies, and well as costumes and building parts. But point taken.. I’ll admit I spent money on the game for things I wanted. Mostly cosmetic building parts. And refuse to waste hundreds for some random whatever. The colored boxes, then cosmetic shelves, the few furniture pieces ect…. But I pay a subscription and used what I get each month for that kind of stuff.
You can get the bounties without paying, you need to look at how you can get them I just got one from the BP upgrade system.
what bounty then? cuz im at lvl 70 on collection and no magical free bounties.
correction, the limited time events bounties are free. probably bcuz not many would pay for them during an events time.
they will add a full map version of the game in 2025 for 29,99$ :P
watch it or they will pull a fallout 76 and make custom servers a monthly subscription, meta-human+
aren't one of the silos and bosses only on WoW? so if you're on Manibus, how do you complete them??
i covered this, yes if your in winter, then you will have to go to manibus, in manibus then your forced to go to winter. you will have to play 2 seasons worth of time to get the reward AND PAY FOR IT!
@ ah I missed it, doesn’t it end soon though? Like chapter 5 is in a day and change so it’s pretty dumb to force people to immediately jump into something else when honestly this has gotten pretty stale and boring sadly
Hey Gotcha, I kinda have a slight disagreement here. I just hopped to my third season yesterday, and I am actually enjoying how the devs try to minimize the pay to win element for this game (I said minimize because I feel some people believe that some paid cosmetics made it other players cant see them clearly, major advantage in pvp servers). On their new years live stream I believe that the devs are also committed to create a non-p2w game which is shown in this "pay for achievement" system among other new updates. I believe it is not an issue or a bad thing at all, but I believe the devs are still trying to try some alternatives to generate income FOR the game without making it p2w. I know some attempt -- like this "pay to achieve" system-- still rough on the edges or hard to accept on logic, but all I can see is the devs are trying and their efforts are commendable so far..
Charging For Achievements isn't cool period, the ones who buy loot crates prolly not gonna be the ones clearing lea solo in under 20, etc. so there missing the target audience to begin with. and a reminder lootcreates every 2 weeks, and the whales out there blow as much as it takes to get every skin.
@@OGBeastt LOL you don't have to be solo to get the lea! I did it in less them 20mins some 1 ran me thru
do they force you to pay for it? you know what i do when i dont like the things they add? i ignore it and when things doesnt sound fun and boring for me i leave the game, thats it i dont waste my time crying about something you can just ignore and i know if people hate it they will leave and devs will see it and think what went wrong and do something better
steam have an achievement that's enough for me, wouldn't care about ingame achievements
steam doesnt have an achievment tho, and devs tell players to give feedback on things so....
amen brother.
I would not be motivated to do this even if it was free. A trophy in my base doesn't inspire me. Since they are charging for it I definitely will not participate. I have purchased a couple of cosmetics to support the game and I might do so again when we have new content. The way they have been doing the loot crates (I will never purchase one) and now this is really sleazy. They should sell cosmetics for $1 to $2 and earn profit from volume. It seems these Devs are not gamers and do not like gamers. At nearly every step they have been releasing "features" that clearly do not respect the players. The foundation of the game (seasons) does not respect the time and effort players invest. This game had a lot of potential and could have been great from a different studio.
Dude, paid achievements are a new low.
And there's actually a way to make this LESS horrible, they could've made the achievements free (maybe the medals too) and charge for the trophies! Is it a perefect solution? No, not by a long shot, BUT it would be less egregious.
Bounties should not be paid for. That's content for players.
And isn't the point of bounties is we get rewarded? If you make us pay for them just give it to us as a cosmetic. Such BS
Preach it!
Relax these Achievements will be soon free
this is confirmed? if so only bcuz of feedback, i wouldnt shut up on the content creator chat either , some guy was like admin waking up to this, devs said they want us to express our feelings on things. So i did
Selling you achivement 🙃
wow, didn't realized you have to pay cash for the achievement reward. so what is the points of us doing it?? so lame....
try hard and pay for it? idk just straight doesnt make sense i cant believe they thought people would like this.
complete something challenging in game? congrats you can now spend 1-5 dollars for an item to place in your territory to feel good about it. you should be proud you get to spend 1-5 dollars.
im a mega whale in the game i own 100% of all lootcrates rewards since day one and 100% of the game shop items money is not an issue for me but paying money for challenge? And then grind my A to get what i paid for? This is nonsence and the biggest scam ive seen so far...... The community should be loud and clear about this stupid update and no one should buy those challenges even if they cost 1 Crystgin
yes exactly, those willing to make excuses for the devs on this dont understand the culture of gaming. you do not pay to achieve anything in a game, especially when you gotta put in hella work for it.
Welcome to Gacha. Whales pay so you can play. This is absolutely unnecessary as far as purchases go. Just don't buy it, if you feel like you need to have it then congratulations, you fit the gacha demographic. I am completely fine not paying a single dime on this game and I can outgun most whales.
thing is ive played and whaled on dozens of gachas, and never in my life, even in gacha.... have i seen ANYONE , even netease themselves. Charge for achievments. if ya dont believe how much ive whalled check out my unlimited ninja vn playlist, tokyo ghoul rebirth, naruto x boruto ninja tribes, dokkan, naruto blazing before it went under, and a whole heap more. This fuels me bcuz in gaming hstory achievements have always been something free, even in gachas.
i know i mentioned blazings, shutdown but half the gachas i listed have all shutdown as well , watched there monetary practice to the ends, even in failing gachas they never stooped so low to charge for achievements, this is a pure greed thing on the companys part (probably netease breathing down devs neck about moar money)
Player base has been on a steady decline so doesn't surprise me they're tryna milk as hard as possible
It's both amusing and pathetic that players from first-world countries, where people earn much more than anywhere else, complain about a free-to-play game needing to make a profit. Even people from third-world countries don't have an issue with spending on in-game purchases. Get a better job and stop whining about it.
i mean.... i buy luxurious battlepass bi monthly, meta pass monthly, plan on paying 50$ for a glass pack, dont mind the loot creates but...... I CAN NOT STAND FOR PAID ACHIEVMENTS ITS PURELY A GAMING CULTURE THING, ACHIEVEMENTS AND TROPHYS ARE NEVER SOMETHING TO BE CHARGED FOR!
its sad and pathetic that even tho since the beginning of gaming history , achievements/ trophies have never been charged for. people have decided they are okay with paying for even achievement's.
take your "first world country" bs out of here, we got a damn orange in office starting the beginning of the year , we bout to be the most in debt country out here, paying more for everything, the rich will get richer ,and the middle class will slide closer and closer to the lower class. no one said in game transactions, this is about paid achievments.... which i mean seriusly? ya spend 200 hours in game to get something achieved AND have to pay for it? even goes against the definition of what a trophy is.
i think im done with once human
im not done with the game, just refusing to pay for achievments in literally any game on the planet,ever. i will start taking peices of paper and when i clear something challenging ill draw myself up a trophy and post it on my fridge before i spend a dime on achievments.
i dint like this achievement system
hahahahaha
Cry harder, its a ftp game.
pay for trophies ,do me a favor and message steam, microsoft and sony and tell them you would love a subscription fee monthly for your achievements page to be viewable......
you understand that they too need to make money and they definitely dont make enough off there current subscriptions, or console sales, accesories, games etc. wake up sheep
@@OGBeastt Its simple, dont like it? Dont play it. Crying about it wont change anything. Most people dont seem to mind and liked the update in general.
the devs are willing to change some things, this isnt about whole update ,its about 1 single decision that they can change. its simple, make them not paid..... if no one buys them then they WILL MAKE CHANGES! They Have A very active feedback system where they monitor it constant for a good reason.
the dont like something the devs have done, quit the game argument is so ridiculous especially when even the devs say we value your feedback, they literally posted all there feedback forms etc. up in there discord today as an announcement that they value feedback and will change things when enough players complain..... why they have made the lootboxes slightly less pure gambly and claim to plan on making them a bit more affordable due to players feedback about the paid lootboxes. (not sure that was what they said, im betting its gonna be a diffrent garuntee to get after x draws system modify not a price drop) tbh im thinking they promised to make the items in lootboxes also purchasable for a set price in the shop and thats what changes are coming to lootbox , which im super for, id love to just go buy the tv blueprint in shop.
Yeah your 100% right. Shouldn’t have to pay for achieves.
Its a free game, they have to make money somehow
your acting like there isnt a whole ass shop, loot creates, monthly meta pass, bi monthly battlepass w. 2 editions, 50$ for glass walls, 50$ for neon stuff, etc. also id like to mention the loot crates are bi monthly aka every 2 weeks another one.
This isnt make money somehow, this is make money every little way they can "aka" squeezing every drop of dollars out of every and all players, not just the whales.
Whats ur discord sir?
Games one reset away from obsolete
i have high hopes for the vision wheel system, bloodmoon sounds pretty cool and will be intersting to see what other spins they throw on it on the seasons coming forward of the vision wheel. also the morphed deviations sounding cool.