Burke Ramsey - Murder or Mishap? | Body Language Analysis
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The case of JonBenet Ramsey has maintained an err of unsolvable mystery to both law enforcement and to the public. Countless theories swirl across the internet as to who the culprit might be. Some say it was an intruder with motive and pattern. Others claim that it could have been the father John who may have been involved in some distasteful and nefarious circles. Still others think it was neither and that it was the actions of the raging child sibling, Burke. The evidence is messy and points in many directions in such a way that has captivated the morbid curiosity of many. While I have already done videos on both the parents and of Burke’s interview he did as an adult on Dr. Phil, I have been requested to analyze the interviews between his younger self and the psychologists assigned to the case at the time. With the nonverbal information gained during the older footage, the answer will hopefully become more clear.
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A 9 year old child smearing his shit around the house has major mental problems.
Agree, and him spreading it on his sister bed is very disturbing. He killed her and his parents covered it up.
Yea and it can indicate he was being abused
I agree @@tracyshaffer4510
@dropbear4973 poor little boy. It doesn't make him a murderer.
His parents would have totally feared him spilling the beans if it was him. They sent him to stay with someone else quickly... would you honestly send him to another family if you knew he had just brutally murdered his sister?
They are confident in their lies.
And siblings can be pretty rough but not usually killers. I was always bruised from arguments with my brothers. I pelted an apple at my older brother's head and knocked him clean off his stool just for saying mean things to me. My younger brother smashed my room up! (Thankfully my own children have been a lot more loving to each other but there have still been those aggressive moments for sure!) Siblings can be ferocious but murder is a whole different thing!
And if everyone thinks he reacted to her eating his pineapple they are grasping at the wrong thing because the pineapple had travelled too far in her stomach before she was murdered for it to be a reaction. That pineapple was a lure, a treat to bring her downstairs. I think it was her father and then the mother came down and observed an unnatural attraction between her husband and his daughter. It may even have been her who screamed then. Then they would have rowed. It had to be something that triggered this level of anger because a money-driven kidnapper just wouldn't have been so angry violent, and then wrapped her in a blanket. Neither would a little boy.
And a woman under threat of losing her wealth and status can definitely blame the other "woman" rather than her husband! Explains why they both support each other too.
@@tracyshaffer4510on her new Christmas candy too😢he smeared it on his sister's Christmas candy box. He was so wrong....💔
Everyone failed that little girl.
Indeed they did
I lived in Boulder at the time. The cops were as corrupt as hell. And obviously her home life was a mess. But this girl deserved justice and truth.
I saw many videos about this case and it was so scary that so so many creepy men were around her due to her parents show her off.. I don't think they cared Burke that much, either. that parents were so messed up. I feel bad for the kids.
@@gacktist00yes, they would also have big parties with a bunch of rich, yt men. They obviously did not protect either of their kids who were exhibiting trauma behavior. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a coverup and they allowed Burke to do so many interviews knowing he’s socially inept (and definitely autistic) to deflect.
@@JW_Steedtotally agree. Really tragic
Smearing feces on his sisters bed, is just like an animal marking their territory and showing dominance. Burke smiling with Dr. Phil's interview as an adult on a different video shows Burke with a creepy smile most of the time. He was a spoiled boy and he was not getting the attention like his sister. There is something very disturbing about Burke.
I’m not sure that Burke’s atypical emotions and actions mean something disturbing. Some of these actions could also be the result of being autistic. My daughter is autistic and puts on a similar smile when she knows she has to, like for photos and smeared poop on her walls a bed up to age 7.
@meganeemden - autistic or not, i don't know anyone's kid who does gross stuff like this, it is extremely disturbing behaviour, i recon it wasn't just for attention, something clearly hapoened to that boy (like molested or something) because normal kids who crave attention don't smear shit inside the house...
Burke had to have been jealous of JonBenet. Patsy gave all of her attention to JonBenet with the pageants and ignored Burke. The pageants were Patsy’s life. Burke had a bad temper and was eating the pineapple that JonBenet took a piece.
I also wonder if he is medicated with a side of being neurodivergent and inability to distinguish appropriate times to smile.
@@meganeemdenone of my good friends growing up had an autistic brother- he was so violent with his brothers & parents, he had to be put into a group home- it wasn’t his fault but he could’ve ki**ed his brothers because of his temper
To me the smoking gun for it being an inside job has always been the fact that the ransom note said don't call the police or she dies, and they called the police. They never mentioned their concern about that on the phone call, or when the police arrived. They also never mentioned the time limit, and that it passed. Because they knew all along who did it.
Interesting point. Personally I imagine if I got such a note regarding my child, I’m not carefully reading the whole thing before calling the police. Also these are educated people and life isn’t a movie-of course you call the police regardless of threats. The whole case is weird though.
John wrote the note to trick Patsy, as he likely accidentally killed her while abusing her. Strangulation. He wrote about a long delivery to make time to dump the body but her body didn't fit in the briefcase..
I was convinced from the start Burke lashed out, from jealousy. Perhaps he meant only to maim his sister but his anger and jealousy got the best of him. The note in my opinion was written by Patsy as she didn't want to lose her only other child. As the speaker indicated, who writes a ransom note and leaves the deceased child there? What then is the purpose of the ransom note? And the amount of money asked for was the same as dad's bonus. Not a Rounded number like 120g$, but 118g$. Weird. I'm surprised Burke was never found guilty after all these years. Also for him to skirt around the photo of the pineapple which was obvious that's what it was, Burke said it was the photo of the dining room table. That wasn't the focal point. It was the pineapple. Sheesh! Patsy carried this secret to her grave and you can bet father and son will too. How awful for this little girl! I can imagine just how unimportant the boy felt in that family but what a tragic ending!.
How dumb. First thing I would do is call the police.
They had nothing to do with it! This has been shown over and over - AND the DNA left in her underwear ruled out everyone in the family. The Boulder police made a huge mess of this case and people on social media keep this incorrect narrative going.
I am absolutely convinced that Burke accidentally killed Jonbenet and the parents went to the ends of the earth to protect him from being held accountable.
me too
Absolutely agree.
That is why someone confessed, and I don’t think they would SA you dead child to cover up the fact that Burke killed his sister.
But would they go as far as using a garote and strangle her? I just can't see them doing this......
@@MegaREAPER56 Psychopaths have children and families too, you would never know. When an intelligent psychopath wants something enough, this would barely phase them.
If I lost my brother or sister I'd be terrified , crying , sad , confused.. asking questions...he is acting so giddy and up like it didn't happen.. he's disconnected..it's scary . It's as though he's ok it happened.
According to officer Patterson who interrogated Burke within an hour of the discovery of the body, Burke knew only that his sister was missing and that he was extremely upset.
Bingo
I don't think that's the case for all children. I hated my siblings, never had any love for them. My mother was abusive so it's probably a more common behavior in healthy homes.
I accidentally hurt my brother - I pulled the beanbag out from under him as he jumped after our mum had specifically said not to - and he suffered a sprained ankle. He cried out in deep pain and I burst into tears. We didn’t have a support bandage and mum sent me to the chemist to get one. I was a sobbing mess through the twenty minute bike ride there and back. I’d never intended him harm, I just wasn’t aware of the consequences. I owned up immediately as well.
But Burke? He seems to go out of his way to avoid any mention of pineapple and seems to be disconnected from the whole thing. A normal (as in not involved in the incident) child would be expected to be terrified after the kidnapping and murder of a sibling in their own home. I don’t know of any child who’d be feeling safe under those circumstances.
It’s awful but I do think he lashed out, possibly not understanding the consequences of his actions, at his sister and smacked her over the head with the flashlight that was seen in photos on the table. I don’t believe he intended such a serious injury and I do believe his horrified parents then, believing JonBenet to be dead, staged it as a failed kidnapping, inadvertently providing the autopsy report of death by strangulation. I don’t believe JonBenet ever regained consciousness from the blow to the head.
He’s emotionally disconnected from his entire family. I think he suffers from skizoid personality disorder in combination with psychopathic traits. He definately has psychopathic tendencies.
The fact that the children were still having accidents at their age indicates that something may not have been right in that home. The act of smearing feces on objects suggests a lot about his mental state, and the sister being the center of attention likely could have had a significant impact on him. I believe the mother put a lot of pressure on those kids and probably wasn't the perfect mother she portrayed to the world. As for the father's role in the dynamics of the household, who knows? It seems clear that things were not okay in that home. The fact that B had previously injured his sister is very telling. It's not far fetched to conclude that he may have acted out that night. His lack of emotion about what happened doesn’t surprise me, given his detachment from his sister.
I firmly believe the mother wrote that letter. It was over the top, and the details pointed to someone inside the home. Not once after hearing the letter did I feel it was an outsider. She was hidden in the house, and the knot and items used belonged to them. If this had really been planned by an outsider to ransom money from the family, they would have brought their own tools and had a plan. If it was done to hurt the family, then taking the time to write the letter in the mother's notebook (in similar handwriting), using tools from inside the home, and hiding the child in the house makes no sense. The risk of getting caught would be too high. And if the intent was to hurt them, she would have been left where they could easily find the body.
Who would take the time and effort to write that letter and place the body in the room where she was found? This case was mishandled from the start, and that police department should be deeply ashamed.
I think they were SA’ed honestly. I smeared poop on my nursery school bathroom. I later found out I was being molested. 🥺 Kids don’t just do that and it’s also VERY common for kids to have accidents too.
Or her dad was a creep and sold his daughter out to his associates 🤷♀️
Well said, great points
@@Morelove4ever8I’m sorry you went through that
That's exactly the comment I would have written- so I'll just like yours. 👍
Children will also stay quietly in their room if they KNOW they are in big trouble.
@softlysane218 even if they aren't in trouble because the parents have a history of violent behaviour.
That's true too
And if my mother had urgently told me as a child that I absolutely had to stay in that room, I would have understood the seriousness of the situation and listened to her.
You think a 9 yeaar old could murder some one in that fashion. Or write that note
@@Dan-z6b3dNo child wrote that note or used that garrotte . If not for that ridiculous note , then it would be easy to accept an outsider committed this murder .
1. He wasnt scared of a murderer breaking in.
2. He drew a picture leaving johnbenet out of it immediately after her death
3. He didnt getvthe bike for xmas that he wanted
4. He was in fetal position during interview
5. He refers to her as "the body" at one point.
6. He says, "im moving on with my life." Who says that after sister just dies.
7. Shows no sadness
8. He was jealous of her attn like getting a doll lookalike for xmas.
9. He was fatigued that night.
10. He gets happy when attn is placed on him during the interview.
11. At the funeral he was laughing and smiling
Q2. He knew how to make knots from boy scouts and wittle wood with a knife.
Patsy wrote the ransom letter to cover Burkes accident..
@sharonsmith1203 Watched another vid-there was another girl in same dance class as jb who was
attacked in the neighborhood house 9 mos. later. That's suspect...
@@janesantoni9773 then who’s dna is under her fingernails?
Everyone copes and reacts to trauma/death in different ways, i'm not saying he's innocent but people do often joke, play games, etc to forget about the situation.
If you were a judge using those credentials to identify a brutal murderer then there would be many innocent children condemned.
He was told by his parents that everyone would just have to get on with their lives.
A fetal position is showing sadness.
He didn't include her in the picture because she wasn't there and he knew she had been murdered. My son has autism and however cold it can sometimes come across it isn't. It is just very real.
The non-inclusion of her isn't an insult or anything wrong. It is accuracy and possibly even grief.
He was jealous? Not many kids aren't.
He knew how to tie knots etc. Both my brothers did but it didn't make them murderers. There were a lot of garotte style things that would be around though. They never used them on me and I was always being thumped by them (or tied up to the garden post, or shoved etc etc etc...the sibling world us cruel but not usually murderous.)
Shows no sadness? That is in itself sad that he only seemed to know how to wear the pageant smile he had seen his sister being forced to wear.
It just seems pretty awful that everyone who accuses this little boy have only these reasons. There is such strong evidence against. He wasn't retaliating to her eating his pineapple because that could have only been given to her around the time they arrived home despite them strangely denying it. The digestion points to that time whereas the murder was later. So no retaliation.
The kids were both fatigued...they had had an extremely busy and full day ending with a party and apparently being taken straight to bed. I can't see how Burke would be in an energetic mood for violence suddenly.
His parents were not worried in the slightest about sending him to stay with another family after this. If they really knew him to be a brutal killer they would in no way have done that and also incriminated themselves for him..a strange and cold act in itself. Both parents know. Both parents stand by each other. No suspicion of each other. Yet Patsy wrote the note. I can guess her reason for killing her daughter, and I can guess a fairly good reason for the possibility of it being John. Those reasons also have the capacity for both to protect each other. BUT there is no reason for it to be Burke that makes any sense.
I don't think we'll ever know what happened. I think what we can be most confident of is that Patsy wrote the letter, and that there was no random intruder. It was some combination of the actions of the three people in the house.
Exactly! Who had anger issues and needed anger management?
I’ve always believed that the mother was responsible for her death. Sad that we all may never know what happened to her exactly 😔
Exactly this!
I agree 👍
@@vb8801 they were surrounded by people both the night it happened and the next day. They need to look into those people (fleet white jr. And sr.)
Not drawing his sister in the family picture is so telling. He would have drawn her as an Angel but not just leave her out this soon after her death. Very, very odd behavior from a sibling.😢RIP LITTLE LADY🕯🤍🕊
He probably wanted to eliminate her and go back to being an only child. These feelings are so normal that one is never supposed to leave little kids together without supervision. There are other cases where older siblings have killed the younger siblings, to try to restore a time when they were the center of attention.
Burke seems almost gleeful in the interview he gives less than two weeks after his sister‘s death. Mission accomplished.
she ate his pineapple, he lost it and whacked her on the head with the mag flashlight,
the rest was all a cover-up.
I think so
I agree. All points to him and the parents covered it up.
Where did the dna in her panties come from?
@@taradeweever3136
Only depraved demonic reprobates think that Burke murdered JonBenet.
Bingo.
It makes the most sense that burke did it. Everyone keeps saying hes just autistic but autism wouldnt make him intentionally smear feces all over his sisters belongings. I cant see patsy killing her beloved daughter and then strangling her. And i also cant see her covering up the father murdering her. If it was an accident they wouldve taken her to the hospital, not killed her. She was also found with marks on her that matched burkes train set tracks. The only person i can see patsy covering for would be her other child. Burke probably hit her and then panicked and strangled her, then ran and hid in his bed and pretended like he didnt know what happened. He already hit jon benet in the head before in a violent attack so we know hes capable of it. He probably got in trouble for that the last time and didnt want to get in trouble again.
It seems so obvious. You have a son who hates his sister so much that he shits on her bed and smears it on her candy, who has struck her in the head before during an angry attack, who seems elated after her death and isnt scared even a little that a stranger who murdered his sister is still on the loose, and hes the only person on earth i can think of that patsy would cover up the murder for.
@@klopek2033 The housekeeper said he smeared it other places too, so... that kind of takes away any special meaning of him doing it to her things. Also, what if the dad did it but told the mom that her son did it? Same results. And what kid is going to strangle his sister after he hit her because he got scared to get in trouble?? That part makes no sense.
Very good points, I fear you are correct.
@lizajane2971 it makes sense if he's scared that he hurt his sister again in another fit of rage and in his immature kid brain, he thinks he can cover it up by strangling her and hiding and pretending he doesn't k know anything. And we don't know what other places he smeared it - maybe on his parents door when he was angry or on the kitchen table when he didn't like what was for dinner. I don't think it can be discounted at all that he was intentionally smearing it on her bed, walls, and snacks.
@@lizajane2971Just because he did it in other places doesn't mean it isn't meaningful that he did it to her stuff. A child can be angry at multiple things at once...
@@lizajane2971you are assuming that Burke didn’t blame his sister for any of this behaviour. He may have done it, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t lie and blame his sister for it.
"Where did they find her body" is just a strange way to ask this question. I would expect to hear, "Where did they find my sister?" "Where did they find JonBenét?" Or even, "Where did they find her?" Saying "body" is very distancing and cold. Again, we are dealing with a child, but it still seems a bit cold to me. She's just a body.
He heard the adults talking, that’s all. Not every child thinks alike.
@@JudiL-f4v Perhaps. Hopefully it would be other adults who weren't his parents because it would be strange for them to refer to their daughter as a "body." Also, we don't know that he overheard adults talking. He said he asked his dad, "Where did they find her body." That is all we know.
@@JudiL-f4vtrue, that house was flooded with people before they found her
@@Attabasca
And Burke said his father told him "I found IT down in the basement".
@@79bewareofpuppies97 That's AWFUL!😮
It does make sense that they were protecting Burke. Remember, John had lost his daughter Beth less than 5 years earlier. The story of Patsy switching out a sick dog for a healthy dog so Jonbenet would not be upset when the dog died shows they were always protecting those kids from real life consequences.
What the heck does "switched sick dog with a healthy dog" even mean? What did patsy do to the poor sick pup? How heartless to abandon one's own sick pet? The Ramsey's were genuinely horrible HORRIBLE people.
@@kittygirl_thetortie498Presumably they put the old dog to sleep rather than on the road
I used to clean houses in Boulder, around the Ramsey house. Parents are so busy with their careers and making money that kids are usually neglected via nanny's or expensive items/experiences. To me it seems he was dissociated even before JonBenet Ramsey passed away. Because that's how kids cope from the lack of their parents' involvement.
Don't forget that Patsy had just survived Ovarian cancer. I'm not making excuses for anything but there was clearly a lot going on in that household.
Sorry y'all just to make it clear I did not meet them personally but I met several families around the area and this is a general behavior I'm pointing out! The dissociation very much could also be due to the cancer, or any other difficulties, but generally I saw it due to neglect/abscence. I mean for some families its normal to not know what the other one eats due to never being together- maybe thats why he didn't recognize the snack right away. Also yes to the comments of neurodivergency which explain why he would see the tea first (look at studies of eye trajectory in people with autism)
A nanny is neglect?!
@@MilasPuppies I said "neglected via nanny." I feel like only nannies and people who have seen it would understand what I mean. But no not everybody who has a nanny is neglected. But many neglected kids have a nanny.
I used to clean houses as well, although caregiving is my profession. I interviewed with a wealthy, single father home; however, I doubt his actual wealth-I think it was for show. I wanted 150 for a day there, but he only wanted to pay $75 (8 hours). But, he wanted me to work with his son, age 12, who needed extra attention. I had a houseful of children that age and was really good at parenting. This guy was supposed to interview me himself, but when I got there, his secretary was the only one there. Supposedly he had to leave “early” instead. When she showed me this guy’s room, it was fresh and warm from a shower and a spray of cologne. I was going to be working with his son and keeping his house, but he couldn’t take a half hour to meet with me? That rubbed me the wrong way. His son needed an ordinary life with parental guidance, not his being gone all the time and focusing on the next trophy girlfriend. Anyway, he wanted a live-in slave, not a housekeeper. I was not spending all day there, driving the son around, putting up with a bratty teen girl, etc, for $75. He found a Vietnamese immigrant to do it.
Lets be real the parents didn't want to lose both their children so they covered it up. That boy needed help with his anger/aggression and they didn't do enough to protect her and it is so sad
Exactly this.
@@girl.anachronism5639💯💯💯💯💯
i wonder why Burke was so angey , there s always a reason for this behaviour !
either way this whole situation is super sad .
Let's be real we weren't there so sadly we may never know what actually happened. Everything is just speculation without proper evidence or a proper confession.
@@tiffanykim2773 exactly! I am not blaming Burke , im just wondering why his anger issues to the extent of smearing JB s room with 💩
there s obviously something deeper that we dont know 👀✔️
Burke has that empty creepy serial killer look in his eyes that everbody fears...he's guilty as hell.
He does… he sets off a persons natural instincts. I actually think he did it too based on all the evidence and even before I ever saw the Dr Phil interview.
Jon Benets autopsy showed she was raped repeatedly. He didn't do anything to her
@@JeninNH He was at the age entering puberty and they didn’t say if the SA was going on for years or months, just repeatedly. He also made a strange statement after her passing when asked about seeing JonBenet’s beauty pageants about watching her on stage “flaunting everything” and mimics a sexy pose… pretty strange thing to say about your dead sister. In any case her being SA’d in no way exonerates him even if he didn’t do the SA.
@@JadeS-ww7srwhat about the ropes and seminal fluids ?
@@JadeS-ww7sr
The BDI theory is the malignant cancer cell of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case.
He’s just so creepy to me. Always with that sickening little smirky smile on his face.
His mom had that too
@little...
Right??!
Something very off with this kid. You hit the nail on the head; just straight up creepy!😬
That is not evidence.
I agree with you, I get a eerie feeling each time I see his interview with dr. Phil, and it makes me feel even more eerie that dr. Phil defended him and said he just smiled because he was nervous 👀
But surely JonBenet was always being taught to smile, because of the pageants. He could have picked up on that, and that's why he's always smiling.
What child is self-aware of how hard or lightly they sleep? That seems more like an adult observation.
I found that odd too. How does he know how he sleeps if he is asleep?
@@mettajennifer Agree. He probably had his parents say he was sound sleeper
Agreed, it sounds rehearsed
His dad told him to say it. "If they ask you, say you always sleep very deeply and never hear anything." Burke did it, John orchestrated the coverup, and Patsy was dragged into it and made complicit. Absolutely tragic. Burke is free, clear, and rich AF today--do you think he's done it again? Who knows?
Patsy would have done anything to keep the "perfect" image of her family rather than admit a issue with Burke.
She took it to her grave too
It's just sad , some one fess up it's been to long
The whole case is suss. If you were a kidnapper, you wouldn’t leave the body in the house-that is your leverage for collecting the ransom money. And you wouldn’t write a 3page ransom note. “I have your daughter, if you want to see her again I want $X. I’ll call with instructions for payment. Call cops and she’ll die” Simple, to the point.
So this was obviously an inside job. John messed with the crime scene, fudging evidence. Patsy overdid the ransom note. Burke finally got what he wanted. He got rid of his sister that was hogging the attention from his parents. He never killed again cause he didn’t need to. His parents manipulated and covered up what he did. It’s pretty obvious that he didn’t care that she was gone. His smiles aren’t nervousness, they are the smiles of self satisfaction.
well said!
Excellent summary. One of the numerous red flags was that the note warned the parents not to contact police and that Jon Benet would be murdered if they did. They went ahead and phoned police regardless and never mentioned that warning again which strongly suggests they knew full well that she was deceased before police attended. Additionally John Ramsay led police directly to the basement and straight to Jon Benet in a way that indicated he knew she was there. As you mentioned, no kidnapper would stay in a house where they've abducted a child from to take the time to pen a three page ransom note. Burke had a history of resentment and aggressive behaviour towards Jon Benet and he seemed quite happy she was deceased. The parents likely panicked when they discovered Jon Benet deceased and tried to protect Burke with their actions. Had they let LE know what Burke had done he would have likely only spent a few years in a psychiatric facility for juvenile offenders yet their concern about their family's image and reputation took precedence over the truth.
I agree he was jealous of his sister she got all the attention.
I agree with everything said here.
he didn't kill his sister
My mom taught Burke at Lovett in Atlanta when he was in the 5th grade. She has some perspective on his personality and from what I remember she said that he was very quiet and shy. Now that this video has opened up my memories of what she told me at the time, I really want to pick her brain anything’s that she may remember. She’s 84 now.
That information would be so insightful - hope you are able to finish that conversation with your mom.
Plz find that info. This you tuber could analyze and present it to us.
My son knew him from church and the local arcade. He said he was shy, quiet, smart & small( but My son was tall). So much of this is fabrication. People lie especially when they are seeking attention. The housekeeper, for instance said things she thought people wanted to hear.
It would be very interesting to hear her point of view.
@@AllisonLansberry When the police went in, they found feces on Christmas presents. I don't believe that she was seeking attention.
Burke Ramsey and Doug Stine (Burke's best friend) were playing Doctor, and when she screamed one of them hit her too hard and their families covered it up. The boys poked her with the train track (not a stun gun) to wake her up but couldn't. Doug rode the bike home leaving the tracks in the snow explaining why Burke was so adamant he got a bike for Xmas but it wasn't at the house, it's one of the reasons the case is so confusing because it's both an inside job and an outside intruder involved. The parents wiped the Xmas morning video that would have showed the children's presents and even though the Stine's were their closest friends geographically they were the only ones Patsy didn't call up and invite over that morning. The Ramsey's then moved in with the Stines and then both families moved interstate together (the Stines giving up lucrative university jobs) with Glen working for John. Susan Stine was arrested for impersonating the police chief trying to get information on the case and was nicknamed Patsy's Pitbull, all perfectly normal behavior.
Thank you 😔
This makes more sense than any of these simplistic thinkers could wrap their little minds around.
I thought the same. Burke AND Dougie
How do you know about Burkes friend Doug? When did Jon Benet die? Why the garotte etc?
Is it just me or is it weird that a child uses the words; “the body”…in reference to his sister? This is still fresh, too.
I’m 65, and I’d still say; “Where did they find her?”
I was about to comment the same thing.Super weird
The Ramsey’s use distancing language too like ‘this child’ etc which was so striking to me as a parent.
Yes… this child, that child… that’s YOUR child and YOUR sister! That’s jonbenet!! Everyone in that family BUT sweet little jonbenet gives me the creeps 😖
They found her in the Basement.
It's definitely repetition of a phrase he has heard
He reminds me of my uncle. My mom was younger than him and she told me that he used to randomly beat her up as a child and then he SA'd their younger cousin. He did all of this while he was still a child. Not saying Burke did it, but i do feel that there was a lot of abuse in that house.
1- Patsy was wearing the same clothes in the morning that she has on the night before when police arrives. She has not slept at all.
2- The Pineapple
3- John and Patsy were not at all comforting each other.
4- John
goes missing for 15 min or so and come back looking very distraught ) He had discovered the body in the cellar)
5- When the detective tells John to search the house Top to Bottom he makes a b-line to the bottom (cellar)
6- The ransom note was written by Patsy
I believe Burke hit her and the whole staging took place by Patsy while John
was sleeping
I believe he woke up to the nightmare and while he was reading the note and recognizing Patsy’s writing he still didn’t know what’s going on
7-in their interview with CNN he said most important thing is to find out WHY this happened
Not WHO did it
But why
Leaving feces around is a VERY bad sign.
Claiming Burke left feces around is something a demonic reprobate would do.
Not just leaving - it's the smearing on her walls and Christmas presents that got me.
The parents had to be upset about that not to mention JonBenet
That had to smell horrific too
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"Not just leaving - it's the smearing on her walls and Christmas presents that got me."
BDIs (like yourself) are never mentally capable enough to provide proof of this by posting a link to a forensic lab report.
@@kathyorourke9273 yeah that’s completely disgusting. I can’t imagine how much you have to hate your sibling to smear your feces in their bed and on their chocolates yuck
@@79bewareofpuppies97what’s wrong with you?? It was mentioned in the video!
Patsy's phone call to 911 was hysterical until she thought she had hung up. To go from wildly upset to normal sure seemed like she was faking her fear of kidnappers. Burke was normalized by Ramsey pal Dr Phil who excused every bizarre movement & comment Burke made in his 'interviews'. Allegedly, Jonbenet had medical history of problems that would indicate frequent sexual abuse. Still disturbing the killer has not paid for the crime.
Yes that is the worst thing about this case. No investigation or recrimination for the SA.
Yes, Dr. Phil acted like there was NO WAY Burke could have done anything wrong, which I found odd, since it seemed VERY LIKELY that Burke did something wrong!
If SA was suspected some Dr dropped the ball, even if it’s suspected Dr. are mandatory reporters’
I believe that medical history was bogus. It would never have played out that way unless both Jon and Patsy were doing it together. That's silly, imo. And Burke was too young for those impulses, at least for them to be developed to that level. There doesn't need to be an sa component, it's sibling rivalry.
It's obvious it was Burke, that's why the cops had nowhere else to look. He hated her, he was the prodigal son, but she as the starlet. To him mom loved her more, the feminine connection kept them close, she was the new baby first, then the runway star, she kept eclipsing him, and getting his attention, his delinquent behavior and animosity kept growing, in a perfect curve. Objective observers would have seen it coming, predict it, ffs. Then add all the obvious bs holes in their story, I mean....
I think he can do those interviews, bc he is a psychopath, and is still happy, and feel justified e did it. Why not, his parents immediately saved him, and he was #1 again. It worked.
peace
Where are the older kids of John? We need some feedback from them
i worked with kids in a residential treatment center for behavioral and mental health issues, all of them in a very similar age range. there was a SURPRISINGLY high amount of kids that had issues with feces and smearing it. Those kids also were very touchy and could snap at something so random. a lot of them had hurt their siblings or someone else before coming there. its very telling to me that burke is exactly like one of the many boys i have worked with. unfortunately i can picture a lot of them doing something like this especially when triggered.
WOW.
I’ve worked in dual diagnosis and work with children with disabilities and high behaviours and I completely agree.
I have always said it was Burke
My concern is that he had any reaction to the pineapple at all. If he had nothing to do with his sisters murder then the question about the pineapple is a nothing question. Something to easily answer and move on from. His reaction says a lot to me.
To everyone who didn't think a child could hurt their sibling... stop and think about how day in and day out he saw his mom doting on Jon Benet... bragging about her to friends and family constantly... telling him "no! That's for your sister only!" or "jon benet earned that with her hard work and she gets this special thing now" etc... and lets be honest Burke is a little weird. He probably creeped his own mom out a bit and friends and family would've most definitely noticed his strange behavior especially in contrast to Jon benet out going loveable demeanor.... why wouldn't that kid get deadly angry when one of the few things his mom does just for him (setting out pineapple to eat) jon benet comes over and starts to eat off his plate... like all little brothers and sisters... i mean, it makes complete sense to me.
Perfectly explained
Did anyone notice how weird it is that the father is named John Bennett Ramsey has a daughter named JonBenét Ramsey? He didn't name his son Burke, John Jr. That screams favoritism to me.
@@uptonogood1893The name "John" wasn't available when Burke was born because John Ramsey already had a son named John from his first marriage.
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He and his first wife Lucinda named their first son John.
@@uptonogood1893the father is named John. Middle name isn’t Bennett lol. Patsy just liked the name jonbenet. Talked about it in an interview long ago
Nothing this kid says makes sense, or sounds like something a child would say. This kid was coached by the parents, period.
I've always thought from day one. That the brother unalive her accidentally, used the train track to poke at her hence the marks & out of curiosity/jealousy, assaulted her with a paintbrush. (JonBenet was over sexualized by her mother, even a 9 year old could see that. Maybe not truly understand it) Mom wrote The ransom note (hence the handwriting analysis matching Patsy) & Dad made it look worse than it was with the with a garrrote around her neck. Sometimes parents will do the unthinkable to save one child when they've lost another.
It's amazing what money and power can do to help cover things up.
"This is my opinion and alleged"
Wow. You've added another factor in my equation. The over-sexualization of Jon Benet. Burke, in addition to being jealous of her and angry that she got more attention, could have been sexually attracted to her. Whether that's true or not, I believe he raped her with an object after bashing her head in to show his power over her. He had been marking his territory over the years without success. This, in addition to the neglect and possible abuse by one or both parents (I don't know what kind) came to a head when she got that bicycle. I also feel in my gut that Patsy was involved. Maybe she had become disenchanted with Jon Benet as she was getting older. Maybe Jon Benet didn't want to perform anymore. Either way, Burke is a carbon copy of Patsy. Regarding John, I don't think he gave a shit about either child and just went along with Patsy's story.
People have struggled with Burkes motivation.
I'll tell you it's far simpler than speculation. It's in the interviews. The statements. But you need to understand the context of the evidence.
The N64 was released in Sept 96. It was the present of the season. It was insanely hard to get. Burke would have been begging for it. Burke had an old NES and never got the 32 bit GameCube. He started playing it on the Big TV downstairs on Christmas day because it was so special, and John took out the flashlight so he could see behind the big set and connect it. Burke won't be isolated in his room on Christmas morning as John and Patsy make breakfast.
Kids come over and play Nintendo after breakfast on the Big TV. JonBenet is playing with a jewelry set she opened that morning. Patsy says this took place in Burkes room. The kids leave and the Ramsey's get ready for an evening with the Whites and leave about 3pm. Burke brings the N64. Nobody knows if they play it at the Whites. The family returns home and never mention the N64 again. The next time we know about its exact whereabouts is when Burke leaves with it tucked under his arm at around 7am before detectives arrive.
they said the marks didn’t come from no train but instead a taser ???!
He didn’t tase his sister.
She was alive when strangled with the garrote too.
There was something very,very wrong in that household.
Makes you go all "spidey" doesn't it?
And possibly the neighbors as well, or just there.
Burke is creepy to me whether he is guilty or not
Even the loss of a pet is traumatic for small children. I can't believe Burke's response...unusual to say the least.
Pretty sure he’s on the spectrum so oftentimes a typical response from him would be wildly different than a typical response from a neurotypical kid.
The loss of a companion animal is terribly traumatic for all of us. 😢
@@SueP-D Autistic or Neurodivergent children are still capable of feeling basic sadness for their sibling being harmed 😊 Autism isn't an excuse. Sorry. He already had anger problems which caused him to hit his sister with a golf club before, because of his anger, so it isn't wrong to say that if she had taken a piece of his pineapple, he would get angry and hit her like he had done in the past. It's obvious, but y'all wanna protect him just because he's a kid.
@@diminie_chimket Thank you. You have some good points there. Anger, impulse control, lashing out are common symptoms of kiddos with ASD. When these children get diagnosed early and get consistent, appropriate services, many of them can do really well. To me it is very clear this young man does have ASD. But hey - I could be wrong 🤷🏼♀️. Have a wonderful day.
If theres a movie made about Burke, elijah wood should play him
Great call!
JonBenet's mother failed her by creating her daughter as an adult looking child and the unbelievable neglect (emotional, psychological) of her son. Their father is also extremely culpable for doing absolutely nothing.
What makes no sense to me is how they go to extreme lengths to protect Burke from the media , police, spotlight. Meanwhile… they did nothing to protect their daughter by creating her into what they did
I fully believe it was someone in the house. Which one I’m unsure. My issue with Burke hitting her on the head and accidentally killing her is that 1- jonbenet was sexually assaulted with the paintbrush and 2- the garrotte went deep into her neck. If Burke hit her on the head, this means the parents did that to their dead child’s body just to cover it up, and that is unimaginable to me. I just can’t make the Burke scenario fully make sense
I've thought a lot about this too. I think desperate people will do desperate things though. It may have been a horrifying choice for them to make. But the other option was losing BOTH of their children.
@@sewistnotsewerregardless, they should’ve just told the truth. The family seems really strange at the least.
@@sewistnotsewer…so they sexually assaulted their child with a paintbrush? That doesn’t make any fucking sense.
@@LeoGoddess30 I believe that no matter who killed her, even if it was an outsider, there was definitely abuse going on in the house and the parents covered up the murder in hopes of not having the abuse uncovered. Imo, Burke was most likely another victim rather than the perp.
@@lizajane2971 I actually agree!
I'm surprised the parents allowed Burke to answer these questions. If they knew Burke killed JonBenet, why take a chance on Burke confessing to it.
Because they coached him
They knew Burke cunning and would protect himself. All they did was to protect themselves and status. Curious about how he behaved, family dynamics after they relocated. No school mates have come forward that I know of.
Decades later if you asked me about class mates I could give you thumbnail assessment..the bully,the one in mischief, the beauty queen, the jock..shy,
And the weird one
I never believed he did it, still don’t. I think it was the dad.
This is what makes me think it wasn’t Burke, it was the father.
You could coach a child not to say anything, but a child isn’t that smart to work through all of what he should hide. In other words, long term, that’s not going to work!
There’s no doubt someone in the house did this. There is a question of whether there was a guest who did this, but not having evidence of that, were forced to think it was one of the 3 family members.
@@sonofhibbs4425like the registered neighbor, that could be the reason for the pattern of it. She evidently spent a lot of time over there with their poodle.
Psychopaths have no remorse foe their actions ! And Burke had no emotions for the death of sister !!
I believe he's on spectrum. That family hiding anything that would be different than a perfect family with perfect kids just doesn't sound like someone who would seek help for him. Plus, it was much harder to get diagnosis those days, we all had the 'weird' uncle or neighbour that would now be diagnosed as on spectrum....
Absolutely.
This!! I like Burke and don’t think he did it. Period!
Yes he is on the spectrum it was stated in his interview with Dr Phil
Probably had tons of vaxx jabs
I'm only 1
He looks like he would smear poop all over the house. He probably still does. He's certifiably insane.
Burke never said “ MY SISTER”.
He just totally refuses to say that its a bowl of pineapple?? His favorite snack, thats a sort of denial.
Leaving feces is a sign of severe trauma and usually sa was he being abused to
Yep. Both of them, imo. Cult family.
Too. Not to.
Huh? You talking code?
It *can* be a sign of trauma, but it can be associated with other things as well. Some reasons are more benign, like aggressive attention-seeking/anger… I believe it’s also linked with psychopathy, but applying that diagnosis to Burke is just my theory.
All their pictures where they are all smiling., not buying it. there were bad things going on behind the scenes, feces smearing, bed wetting, not normal behavior. I don’t care how much they tried to project normal
happy family. It obviously wasn’t.
Burke’s not a normal kid he’s a psychopath. Should have been put in therapy when his sister was born. Oh and he did it! Parents set the “crime scene” afterwards. The End
I’ve never seen someone so afraid of pineapple
I would have loved to see his reaction if that first psychologist who provided snacks had provided a bowl of pineapple...
Indeed! I think she took some of it & he snapped.
I have always believed Burke did it and Patsy was protecting him!
Or she did it and Burke is protecting his mom he saw it
@@Jannett-ik5lh I keep wondering this too! I remember them mentioning that Patsy was sick-the tumor on her brain. John said she wasn’t herself. I wonder if JonBenét “lost” a pageant or something and Patsy’s tumor may have cause her to rage at JonBenét…
I had an older brother who abused me, including SA. I no longer speak with him because of the abuse. But he used to smile or even avoid eye contact with me when I contracted him of his actions, or let alone be at the same family events as him. In therapy, my therapist told me day one that what my so called older brother did was wrong, I needed to keep in mind that he was, too, possibly abused himself. Sadly, I had an addict father who was super cruel and abusive. I admitted to my therapist that I would not be surprise if my so called dad abused, including SA, my so called brother. I bring this up because, Burke comes across as someone who had a lot of wrong done to him. The parents, especially Patsy, did the typical “turning the cheek” when it came to trauma, let alone her own daughter’s death. My own mother until this day tells me to stay silent on the trauma that my older brother did. Overall point - there are many parents who will sweep things under the carpet and never get the help they need themselves.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I wish your mother could be stronger for you. You didn’t deserve this and you did the right thing by speaking up. ❤
I understand many claiming we need to account for Burke Ramsey being neurodivergent in the sense of being on the ASD. However, I work with children on the spectrum, and showing no emotion in response to an upsetting experience is not commonplace; at least not as a result of having autism. They get sad and emote just like any other kid…
Ummmm. No they don’t. Have a masters in psych and used to work with kids. The fact he’s got ASD makes it more likely he’d behave this way. Whether he murdered her or he didn’t. Smearing his feces. Inability to control outbursts. Totally within realm of possibility he killed her. Children with ASD were often the ones most likely to have dangerous outbursts that required special training even.
Sometimes more… thank you for saying this.
True except they would have presented during questioning eventually in a far more obvious way. That didn’t happen. I found that interesting. I also work teaching kids and we never would have made it 6 hours. Even one hour…. Not a thing with the stress level.
Before u come at me in the comments, you're Literally on "Body Language Analysis" so get on wit ya bad self 🤣🙏Why has noone thought or brought up the thought that Burke is a Sociopath? The way he said "we where at someones house, one of their friends, everyone was all Sad and everything" sarcastically saying sad... EVERYONE is guilty until proven innocent. he was uncomfortable with his sadness and thats why he was smiling and laughing thru her entire funeral? Hes a 9yo boy and Couldnt have done this, that explains why he never talks about her, asks about her, doesn't even draw her in photos after her passing? A grieving child is going to MISS their sibling, especially how close in age they where. Also, if a child has a seemingly good life with little to no abuse or neglect- ISNT going to hide in their room and Go Back To Sleep when he hears mom frantically looking for sister and her and dad are being basket cases running thru the entire house including his room, he's going to go see what's wrong and ask. After finding her, when John went to go tell burke, he didn't ask "did they find her? Is she ok? Where is she? Who took her? What happened?" He said "Where did they find her body"... thats HIGHLY unlikely ans suspicious for a 9yo Child to be saying to an adult. Wake up ⏰️
Good point!
You're more psychologically comfortable with blaming JonBenet's murder on a child than you are with blaming it on an adult like yourself.
@@79bewareofpuppies97 That's stupid why would anyone be more comfortable with a child murder over an adult murderer.
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Because then they wouldn't have to think that someone like them could ever do such a thing. Burke is nothing more than a scapegoat to BDIs.
Shame on you , making up bs about an innocent child .
The importance of the pineapple is that her parents denied she had pineapple that night and even when the autopsy showed pineapple eaten within a couple hours of death at least patsy tried to suggest it might not be pineapple. They claimed Jonbenet was carried to bed asleep from the car and could not have eaten pineapple. Combine that with the bowel of pineapple in the kitchen and there is objective evidence that something more happened that night with the family members than they are revealing.
The Ramseys were not officially interviewed until over a month after the incident. Their lawyers were trying to negotiate with police to schedule a meeting at the home instead of the police station and during the day vs late hours of the night. The Ramseys lawyer thought the police were trying to grill them and was fighting to set up a comfortable interview setting which took time for everyone to agree to the same terms. Therefore, some discrepancies in stories may simply be due to the passage of time. Just to make sure we have the whole picture.
@@morganadvantures of course the police were going to grill them. Their child was found murdered in their home under incredibly suspicious circumstances. The fact they got to run from and avoid being questioned for so long is horrendous. Theres not a single appropriate excuse for it. They were even doing tv interviews in that time saying how much they want to cooperate with and speak to the police to solve this, yet literally took their private jet to fly to another state when they knew the police had just travelled to meet with them
Thank you for covering this. I have ALWAYS thought this interview and his reaction to the pineapple picture was beyond strange. I teach fourth grade.
I teach 4th grade, too. That kid is odd. I don't diagnose, I don't teach special ed but teachers see kids everyday, all kinds of kids, all kinds of home lives---that is an odd kid.
@@melissasw64 he reminds me of my odd cousin that tried to kill me with a knife when we were like 9 💀
@@Ginnyb6402 OMG how creepy! What ended up happening to your cousin?
@@melissasw64 definitely grew up to be a toxic antisocial man, nothing big yet!
@@Ginnyb6402Oh my god tell us more! What happened to him?
I always thought this was an inside job - a family member. Makes total sense it was Burke. He seemed to me to be a very disturbed youngster. No reason to remove him from the house for fear - all their friends were called in. NO ONE should have been allowed to leave before the police interviewed them. And NO ONE should have been allowed in the house for the same reason. He was removed so he wouldn't spill the beans on what happened. He probably hit her (again), got scared, went to bed - or went outside, which would explain why the suitcase was near the window - he needed a boost to be tall enough to get out. It also explains the footprint they found in the snow that matched Burke's boots. Maybe Patsy heard all the commotion, got up and found him outside, made him come in the house, sent him to bed and immediately went into cover up mode. I'd bet a lot of "accidents" in that house were covered up. I see a boy who does things and then disassociated his actions and has Patsy make excuses for it. I bet she stayed up all night doing everything to make it look like someone else did it. Patsy clearly wrote the note....come on, it was on HER paper with HER pen. And 3 pages??? What kidnapper, or murderer is going to know the details of the money Mr. Ramsey recently got? The tone of the letter was in her style. Did you catch the use of the word, "hence" that was used? Burke also used that word in the Dr. Phil interview. Who uses that word anymore? Burke smearing his feces throughout the house is also a sign of a mental issue. I'm not a cop, a shrink, or a crime investigator, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's right in front of you. The police fumbled the case from the start. The dad just happened to know where to go to look for his daughter??? Get real. My younger son used to hide from me and go outside and to the neighbors yard all of the time. I did an exhaustive search high and low to find him. I think Mr. Ramsey was forced by Patsy to go along with the cover up story. If most parents found their kid's body, they would immediately start crying or screaming for help, not just bring the body upstairs and then put their child on the floor. Most would put her on the couch. Botched....botched....botched investigation all because these people had money!!! The biggest thing for me was Burke's total lack of concern, and how he knew she was probably hit on the head. No one knew that right away. He did. Also, one of my brothers was horribly murdered when I was 14. Mom had 10 of us - the age range at the time of George's death was 26 (George) down to 1 or 2 years of age. Every one of my siblings from the age of 5 or 6 and upwards were deeply disturbed and upset by this. We still are. No one dismissed it, ignored it, or "moved on with" their lives as though nothing happened. We are all still scarred to this day. This happened in 1974 and we never found out who did it. The police botched my brother's investigation as well. Burke did not give a fat rat's a$$ that his sister was murdered. This story clearly has impacted not only me, but thousands of others since we are still talking about it. I can't for the life of me understand why trained professionals couldn't figure this out when us "general public" figured it out from the start!
Oh, I think trained professionals knew, but some were paid off and others threatened. The officer who was there with the family quit the force and sort of side-spoke of corruption without actually saying it. She also inferred it was the father…my opinion, not hers. She refused to say, but the inference was something more horrid (and wrongfully protected) was going on there. I may be remembering this wrong but it was that officer who told Mr. Ramsey to put her down on the floor? I think she did this because she could tell she was dead (rigamortis/other signs).
We had a home break-in when I was about 13. No one was home, and obviously the goal was theft so one was killed, but even that created a massive amount of anxiety for me at that age and for years after about it happening. It is disturbing and telling that Burke didn’t seem at all bothered by the fact not only was his sister murdered, but that it was supposedly a stranger who broke in. He is either a sociopath/psychopath or he was already a child living with and coping with the possibility of great harm all the time. Both are likely scenarios here.
lot of money.
John immediately runs downstairs after being told to search the house. Possibly because it gave an opportunity to deflect attention from the crime scene. That was a gift to John. The crime scene was super important to him. The evidence left behind was the greatest vulnerability for John, Patsy, and Burke.
Showing favoritism with children is so very Hurtful. Hurts that last a lifetime
I’m very much on the side that Jon Benet took a piece of her brother’s pineapple, and in a quick retaliation he hit her over the head with the flashlight and freaked out when she just dropped. He probably ran to his parents room, told them what happened, and the parents had to quickly make up a crime scene because they simply didn’t want to lose another child that night. Which I feel like makes sense with him crying when he was told that his sister went to heaven, because he probably didn’t realize that he had killed her in his fit of rage.
Yep!!
Hey! As a sleep tech that has done a ton of sleep studies on kids his age and I can tell you that all of them sleep super hard and spend a long time in N3 or deep sleep. I have gone into the sleep room, turned on the lights, and had a full volume conversation with the parent/cargiver. Most kids didn't wake up at all while the lights were on and we were talking mere feet from their bed. Most not until the first piece of tape came off 😂😂(parents would remove it if they were still asleep). All that to say it's ABSOLUTELY possible he didn't hear anything.
Burke sounds to me like he was coached, and didn’t know how to deal with forbidden topics. And, that remark about sleeping soundly is very much like something John said - sleeping soundly due to sleeping pills. Except melatonin doesn’t knock you out or keep you asleep, just makes you drowsy, like eating turkey does. As a product of a dysfunctional family and with multiple indicators of SA, I never behaved “normally”, didn’t have normal reactions to things. And was adept at reading what others expected of me, it was a survival trait. I’ve got my own opinion about what happened, and it’s too radical to talk about here. Just pointing out, if Burke were psychologically damaged by the family dynamic, then conclusions based on what is “typical” may not necessarily be sound. I found an interview of the first (and only for quite a while) police officer on the scene to be very interesting. Law enforcement in general made lots of fumbles, but this woman was rock solid. I hope the truth comes out one day.
I would love to hear your opinion, no matter how radical. Agree or disagree, you have my word I'll keep things respectful.
I would like to hear it as well. I've heard some crazy theories so I've probably heard it before.
@@thelastmoonchild. I’m reluctant to get into too much detail, I just don’t know if this is the forum. Don’t want to bring heat onto the channel or go too far off topic. I’ll just say, I think there were people involved outside the family. I mean, a family member plus others invited to participate. I think enough people were involved from multiple sectors that they were able to act in tandem to obscure what happened. I don’t think it was a series of mishaps that people were left unattended, crime scene was tainted, all the ways the investigation was impeded. I think bad things were going on for a while. Possibly of a religious or cultish nature, or simply deviant behavior. In short, SA or SRA. And others reluctant to speak out for fear of retribution. I just think this was bigger than one person, both in the crime and afterward.
@@adriennetochter6873 Reading between the proverbial lines are you thinking that s_x trafficking was occurring and that Jon Benet was being sold by her family? If that's what you think occurred do you also think LE was involved in the SA which is possibly why the investigation was obstructed from beginning to end?
I have the same feeling. I think you are right @@adriennetochter6873
Linda Arndt, after visiting Patsy before she passed away, described her as a woman "imprisoned by secrets".
Like a game of Clue: Burke in the kitchen with a flashlight.
To smear poop on a siblings items is a deep level of hate
I have always believed he did it, and the parents covered it up to avoid losing both children. There are just too many red flags to believe that an intruder perpetrated this crime. He is a creep and a murderer and got away with it because he was a child of a "rich and famous" couple.
Translation: I, rokasrerroca7399, am so elated Burke exists. Otherwise I'd have to think that an adult like myself killed JonBenet.
@@79bewareofpuppies97 interesting the way you put that. Kinda rough, but it gets through.
I’ve caught myself wanting to think this way because it was more difficult (as in I didn’t want to believe) that more heinous vile things were going on in that household. To blame Burke (a child) is almost a relief rather than considering one of the parents was sexually abusing and or pimping out their daughter. A child we can excuse, we can see making the mistake, but an adult..it’s too uncomfortable to think about. And that’s precisely why so many pedos get away with their crime. The disgust, the shame and the fear of it.
I remember, as a child, telling an adult of what another adult male was trying to do to me inappropriately and I was met with excuses and rebranding of his behavior, simply because it upset the psyche and this the status quo of the adult I told. I’ve seen and heard of it a thousand times with abused children…and more often than not the adults will blame the child or will hold resentment towards them for hearing the uncomfortable truth. …Or they will plain, conveniently ‘forget’ about it, never to be mentioned again.
What If he saw his parents did it. & He saw it & got threatened there's a lot of questions
My thoughts all lead me to ask just a few questions....
1. Who had ACCESS to JBR on Christmas Day & the day after ?
2. OTHER than the ransome note, is there any hard evidence that there was an intruder ?
3. How many times in the case of a kidnapping is the kidnapped individual found in the home? Ideally that means there was no kidnapping 😮...right ? At least by definition. JBR was only taken from her bedroom to the basement where she lived.
4. How many intruders are going to pen such ransom note INSIDE the home of the abducted child all while both parents and her brother are home ? Lets not forget this intruder not onky used paper and a pen from insude the home, but was so nice to put it back in its place...oh and a few practice notes too...guess PRESENTATION was important.
I could go and on, but i also know fir everything that ive asked, there has been already a rebuttal. So that leaves this case where its been all these years. UNSOLVED.
I think it was an intruder. Basement window was broken. Intruder probably watched the Ramseys leave and knew he would have time to write a ransom note. Burke wasn't strong enough to do it. There was a detective who agreed it was an intruder. He's now deceased.
@@billiesnyder6805 .. No criminal breaks into a house and takes a half hour to write a ransom note, inside that house. (before you even have kidnapped someone). You are inside someone else house, so that is always a danger.
Just write that note at home, or in a hotel, a gas station, a library or whatever.
Next. A kidnapping can go wrong of course. In case of a small little girl that is less likely. An adult can just pick up the child and walk out the front door.
Let's say it did went wrong and the supposed kidnapper accidentally killed the girl (but the strangling was no accident, that was done at purpose). Still, okay he kills the child by accident, why not just walk out with the girl? Since that was the plan from the start. Then you walk out with a body, the parents don't know in that scenario the child is dead.
And the thing can just go on as was planned.
Why hide the child inside the house? Why not in a car outside or a shed or garden house, or bushes close by?
No person with a brain would do all that, what the supposed burglar/kidnapper did.
@@chinamoon6175 the parents weren't home. They were at a Christmas party. I think an intruder was in the house hiding before they left.
@@petervermeer.4904 you make some good points! Guess we'll never know the truth. Patsy is deceased. Lou Smit the detective is also deceased. He believed it was an intruder. He even went through the basement window to show how it could have been done.
Fathers more suspicious than Burke
This
Yeah, I feel like Burke's behaviors are a result of abuse. Those kids were facing some type of abuse in that home.
@@lovelynngonzales5441 It sounds like it to me too.
I totally agree 100%. If you want a rabbit hole to go down… Ive seen a verrrry convincing theory the parents were part of a p*do ring. The parents, their friends, and police all worked together to cover it up.
Exactly, if Burke did it...I do believe it was an accident do to his neuro divergense,, Patsy wrote the letter but dad had to be the one staging the body...imo, that's scary.
Her parents should be ashamed of themselves dressing her up like a grown woman, poor little girl, may she rip
I've been saying for years that Burke killed his sister (on accident) but ment to hurt her. The parents covered it up. The evidence was obvious. We know Burke killed her why are police so stupid?
Burke has some disassociative disorder. The parents not only did Jon Bennett wrong they also did wrong by not getting Burke help by covering it up. John Ramsey also seemed very divoid of emotion during the whole case. Never shed a tear.
Or he seen who did it. Think of that
The mother was at fault. She should have been charged with sexual and emotional abuse. What mother would dress their daughter in sexual outfits to parade in front of the world?
She was SICK!
Yes that whole pageant thing is inappropriate.
Many mothers do it many . These pagents for kids are everywhere
Many mothers dress there kids provocatively just because they think it's cute and has nothing to do with pagents. I see ALL the time everytime i go to the stores any store kids dressed skimpily it's disgusting but it's the world we live in now
Hey, I get what you’re saying, it’s an unpopular thing these days, but back then it wasn’t thought of as ‘’sick’’. You’re forgetting a whole lot of other mothers were doing the same thing with their daughters. It was and still is a thing.
I’d hardly call the outfits ‘’sexual’’.? I think it’s weird of you to insinuate that the outfits were ‘sexual’. I’d ask for you to point out exactly what was ‘sexual’ about them, but I don’t want to know.
Patsy herself competed in pagents and enjoyed doing so. It’s not a far cry to enroll your daughter in something you yourself enjoyed when young. I don’t think it’s right to paint the whole pageantry thing with one gigantic brush of emotional and sexual abuse. And no, I’ve never participated in any of that, but I remember my sisters and I as kids would watch the miss USA, miss America, miss universe pagents on tv in the 80’s and enjoyed them. Beauty doesn’t have to be thought of as ‘sexual’. It’s sad to me others denigrate and see it as such. Kinda really gross.
I think the problem with pageantry today is we know more about the sickos that get attracted to that type of thing and have realized it isn’t all that wise to parade people like that. It may also be psychologically harmful to the participant as well.
. . . at six years old!
I didsagree, as not about losing another child, it was not wanting embarasement..as their all about how they look publically..
@@lmarie4021 Please tell me you're joking
Having watched more than a few episodes of "Criminal Minds" I'm reminded of one where a boy unalived his younger brother and his parents staged the scene. Turned out the little kid had broken the brother's model and he got mad. The kid was a psychopath and had to be institutionalized.
Exactly! Season 4 episode 21. I knew immediately that it was based on this case.
@NK. The lack of internal bleeding and tissue trauma and swelling indicates Jonbenet was already dying or had just died. A head injury like that would cause huge internal damage and brain swelling. It was a closed injury, so no external signs or bleeding. Jonbenet fought against the cord round her neck. She could not have done that following such a severe head injury. I believe she was dropped from a height or caught her head on a hard object as whoever had suspended her realised the cord was killing her. John had over 100 videos of children brought back from Amsterdam business trips, removed from the house. When you know that it suddenly makes what happened a bit more sense.
Even John Meyer said the head injury & strangulation could have happened simultaneously. She was hit over the head accidentally & strangled herself with the garotte around her neck. She was clutching it when she died. That's why the parents covered each other. Burke was upstairs in bed, but he said he heard his mother scream( in one of the interviews. He called her psycho.
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Do you mean when she was found she hadn't been dead long? I heard that rigor had set in.
@ibdalia69 yes. That takes at least an hour. If death is a shock( accident) rigor is usually quicker.
@@AllisonLansberry TY
@@AllisonLansberry Would the cold dellay rigor?
In Colorado, the minimum age for criminal prosecution is 10 years old. Children under 10 cannot be found guilty of any offense.
Burke was 9 when JonBenet was killed.
Burke's parents would not have known about any law protecting murderers under 10 yrs old. So they covered it up for him. Because they didn't know and to lessen the bad publicity.
A month from 10 yrs. old
He might not have been criminally prosecuted, but the family would definitely have societal shame thrown their way, regardless…..which they faced anyway with this.
Still would have destroyed the family job wise etc, also whose to say it wouldn’t have led to charges of child neglect on the parents part etc etc etc
He might not be criminally charged but he could well have wound up in juvenile psychiatric hospital
Burke is "disturbed" and parents covered up imo. These are very twisted people 5:24 😊
I knew he did it the minute I heard the 911 call with Patsy screaming in the background “Burke noooo, what did you do!”
Around 30+ min in: that child therapist really missed a bonding opportunity. After, "is pineapple your fave?" [Yeah.] "Oh see, that's cool. I'm a cantaloupe guy myself. But i like watermelon, too."
Burke is clearly hesitant to explore pineapple, so deviate by connecting.
You can later redirect. You're the adult, but don't make that so obvious.
He's kind of questioning Burke like he's a special needs adult, not a gifted child.
We'd have a lot better intel if the interviewer was better skilled at interacting clever kids.
It's really not difficult to talk to a child of this intellect.
Gifted child?? He looks more special needs than Gifted. What on earth made you think he was smart? He isn't even good at lying
I think that whoever put the little girl as she was found is the sick one.
I feel Jon Ramsey definitely had something to do with that
if Burke was involved, there's no way in hell the parents would've allowed him to be interviewed..Nope, wouldn't happen!!
Yeah it seems to be on purpose to deflect, in my opinion.
Right. Even if the parents had coached him on what to say and not say, he could have ended up telling the truth under the right questioning. The Ramseys' high powered lawyers would have advised them on it.
You’re absolutely wrong. It’s not a police interview, it’s a paediatric psychological assessment. The police have asked the doctor to find out the things they want to know, and it’s handled in a way that was done carefully by the doctor. And they wouldn’t have had a choice on the matter because it’s highly likely that he went under the care of services while his parents were being questioned- he is then under the responsibility of child services who actually have parental responsibility by law and can request this kind of assessment. They likely did this because he has disturbing behavioural issues, smearing walls and such.
They didn’t allow Burke to be interviewed by the police. And that speaks volumes to me.
@@mrsrock7641 It doesn't matter what it was, interview, assessment or counseling. Burke could have told what he knew to any of them. Although the police did come and question Burke on the 12/27/1996, at the White's house. The Ramseys didn't know about it in advance. Just the fact that J&P left Burke alone with another family says they weren't worried about what he might say. He could have even told the Whites what he knew if he knew anything. The Ramseys weren't worried about that either. They also weren't worried about a predator on the loose finding him there.
There was zero chance that Burke would be put "under the care of services" (wording not used in the US) while his parents were questioned/interviewed by the police, which happened on May 1, 1997. Any parents being questioned by the police who have any friends or family nearby would simply have their children stay with any of them.
It doesn't matter whether or not the parents allow it, in the state of Colorado it's legal to interrogate a child without their parents present as long as the child has a public defender with them. I don't know why you think the parents get a choice in the matter in a *murder investigation,* you watch too many movies lol
No mistake this was murder, he hated her. Bad seed we all know some kids are evil, and exceptly to his sister.
Thank you for this video. The behaviour at the service in Boulder was odd and the interviews after the murder were extremely odd and the dr Phil interview was also extremely odd
That Dr Phil ep felt like a cover up. It was odd.
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Parents should of at least been charged with wrongful death. Failure to protect her!
Let's be honest. If Burke had been an adult when interrogated, and he displayed the same atypical behavior, and 'we' witnessed it, we would all think he was responsible and not give a second thought regarding his culpability in her murder. For those who claim "He's just or was a child." If Burke was still a child, would you ever allow him to babysit your child?
As an adult, would you be willing to date him, or at least feel comfortable knowing he was dating someone you cared about and knew was vulnerable, especially after observing his behavior for two decades? Would you allow your animals around him?
I would not turn my back on him for a second.
There’s no doubt that Patsy wrote that Note.
….but Burke swung that flashlight in a rage over that ‘stealing of his beloved Pineapple’!
You don't know that
But she was choked before that. Or hung Make that make sense
@at7915 people that pay attention to the evidence do. Burke did it, it's so simple that it's unbelievable how anyone could think otherwise. Ffs
@@phuckyu-12 it’s what I believe most likely happened, but I still don’t know that it happened
@@phuckyu-12 It’s what I believe most likely to have happened, but I don’t know
During the initial 911 call between 5:30 a.m. and 6:00 a.m., Patsy Ramsey called 911 to report that Jon Benet was missing. But what happened was, after Patsy had completed her conversation with the 911 dispatcher, and she thought the call disconnected, the 911 call center continued to record sound from the inside of the Ramsey home. After Patsy had stopped talking to the 911 dispatcher, either she or John said, "We're not talking to you" to a third person in the room--this had to have been Burke. Burke did not wake up later on the morning of December 26th, 1996--he was wide awake prior to 6:00 a.m. This does not prove that Burke did it, but it does prove that there is a big hole in the story about Burke being awakened when the police arrived. Whoever said that Burke woke up later, when the police arrived, LIED!
Is that call available to the public?
Burke hated his sister and was extrealy jealous of her. That's one reason(not the only reason) he smeared feces on her bed(multiple times). That goes way beyond typical sibling rivalry. Smearing feces points towards MAJOR mental issues. He was also glad she was gone. He practically said as much in the interview with the psychiatrist. JBR was a chronic bed wetter, also. Kids don't wet their beds and smear feces because everything is great in their lives. It was all a show, put on by John and Patsy. There must have been some very sick things going on in that house. Burke likely killed her. John and Patsy covered it up. Patsy also wrote that ridiculous ransom note This case is solved to anyone that actually knows all the in's and out's. The Ramsey's got away with this BS because they are rich. It's as simple as that. Anyone else would be sitting in prison right now. The whole "Intruder theory" is just a smoke screen. The Boulder Police being totally incompetent just helped them along. Nobody will ever pay for this. It's beyind disgraceful.
It’s interesting that he used the exact same phrase word for word years apart.
Are you referring to "Where did they find the body"?
Kids having wetting accidents at that age is often a sign of abuse...that's so sad. No one knew what to look for back then.
We seem to have forgotten the police interview he had as a child where he physically demonstrated how to break a skull.
He could have seen it happened though
My gut tells me Burke is not the person who killed her, but he definitely witnessed something. Maybe revolving around JonBenets father.
No the boy did it
Your gut is right
I think he hit her on the head and the father did the garroting.
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Only demonic reprobates are BDIs.
I don't think he killed her either..I think it was john jonbenet's father I think he was a psychopath..
They covered up for him and all this time a murderer is free.
He was definitely COACHED.
To be fair, it's harder to tell that it is pineapple in the black and white photo that he was shown.
After years of reading and watching things about this case, I’m leaning towards Burke as well. He did have therapy for years. Everyone thinks he is on the spectrum. But my theory is he might be schizophrenic. When a person with this condition has a psychotic episode, they might not remember it. Some can’t tell if what they remember is actually the truth or it’s in their imagination. I’m starting to think he did this during a psychotic episode. And he doesn’t remember if he really did it or if he is imagining it. I believe the parents are covering it up. To protect him. And maybe even told him that he didn’t kill his sister he is just imagining it maybe. We don’t k ow any of these personal details unfortunately.
Patsy said two things during various interviews. One: whoever wrote the ransom note killed JonBenet on Larry Kimg and two: the ransom letter was written before the murder and that authorities told her so and that’s why she believes it was written before the murder.
I believe she is doing this to deviate the attention elsewhere on purpose. Because she wrote the note but didn’t kill her daughter. And she wrote it after the fact because she was trying to protect Burke.
Unfortunately, i cannot move past the creepy vibes that i get from Burke. On the Dr. PHIL SHOW, his affect was so off. I might even go as far as bizarre. He demonstrated aggression toward his sister, hitting her with a golf club. I think he hated Jonbenet, and that he indeed killed her.
Berko punished & brutally eliminated his competition & possibly sa'd her in the process (probably had done in the past, hence ramseys dictionary open on the word INCEST.showing a parent worried about his behaviour) then is rewarded with all the benefits & extra love & attention of an only child & victim. Hes extremely happy with himself and the outcome, laughing and dancing at her funeral & cant wipe that smile off his creepy face. Zero sadness and grieving, in his twisted head he won!
100% psyco
I said the same exact thing about that dictionary and what about John's oldest son there was sperm DNA inside the suitcase on a blanket that was found underneath the window that the intruder supposedly broke into. That whole family are guilty of something
I also saw him at the funeral smirking and laughing my stomach dropped
The perpetrator came from inside of that home. As it often does. The ransom note and body in the basement are clumsy efforts to cover it up.
I still believe that something happened the night they came home. Burke was eating pineapple and cream and his sister grabbed a piece of pineapple and he got mad. I believe he was always jealous of her because she became the princess. I think he hit her and Pasty and John covered it up. ALWAYS BELIEVED THIS
Yes, I agree.
Every video, no matter how serious, I end up dancing to that little bop at the intro.
It’s the best opener of any video series I’ve ever seen.
😂same!!!
20:27 I thought he was saying that his FATHER burst into tears after telling him that JonBenet was in heaven now…
He did
Pineapple with milk? Yeah reminds me of that scene in Get Out with the girl eating her cereal separate from the milk. Mentally disturbed.