I agree with you on SS being bad as a first item. I always go Ecplise first, but SS second or third, with ingenious hunter, having both item cds on a 4 second cooldown per target is insane, and opens the door for some pretty good fights. As for the rest of your comments and suggestions I’d 100% agree.
@@TeacherKali Typically, yes, usually by 10 minutes, I'll have all five. Because I roam and play make quite often and will coordinate ganks with my team.
Glad to see that you made this. Eclipse OP and I really appreciate you mentioning cleaver second because of how it's so good to help you outplay bruisers. Especially because my preferred play style last season was lethality because of how fun it is. I do appreciate the added sustainability you get from SS, but it really is a little overrated. It's too expensive to be anything more than a third item or maybe second, depending on situations. I'm also planning on trying your boots strat. I know how op Ionians are but I keep going tabis or mercs bc I lack confidence. That said, I don't think you're correct and I just need to fix the confidence issue with more practice.
as chal peak lee main eune, profane hydra full lethality lee works best for me, stomping every game and late game can oneshot 2 or 3 enemies in fight, try profane and your cs per min will double, also dark harvest is a must in this setup
I can 100% confirm this, even when ahead building sundered sky feels bad, its cring., the build path of eclipse and getting eclipse early feels really really nice, you have a garanted 100% to 0% an squishy target, it enables you to force plays and get more ahead, no need to mention that is exactly what you want on lee sin.
Would you consider making a video detailing different strategies and play styles and their viability? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that topic. Obviously every game varies, but a general guide would be good to see.
don't even play Lee but yt recommended this vid and i was interested. you can tell you actually know what you're talking about. really good points about fake stats that don't matter. also very good argument for elixirs and pinks i wouldn't have thought about that but it is true the utility of ward hop far outweighs any component
What are your thoughts on profane hydra? Expensive but brutalizer is an insane first item if you get full clear + first blood. The active is insanely bursty and your farm snowball is unmatched and great for 1v9ing games especially if your support is afk and skirmishing early is losing.
Hey, until i ranked up yesterday i was the best BRONZE lee sin in NA (according to league of graphs). I’ve just gotten back into league this season, and i picked up ur channel from a video you made a few weeks back. I wanted ur eclipse rush guide and it’s give me a 61% winrate with 60 games played. it’s super easy for me to snowball in low elo especially because a lot of lanes troll and chase, that usually let’s me pull up and get free kills. Anyways, i just wanted to say thanks for the help, this is the best i’ve ever played in my life. I’m a big fan and plan on getting to at least gold this season (i started iron 2). i’ll be watching!
Hi bro i tried these days the ingenious hunter build with eclipse sundered sky and mow/ga the ga feels really broken with 3 min cd i feel like you have it have crucial fight
idk about bc second with the nerfs it got in s14. I did some testing with viego and it was always worse than sundered sky on base armor targets even on THIRD item spot. Ofc that changes when enemies build armor but ye I think its probably the same for lee
I mean why would you ever go cleaver if no one is building armor? You’re better off going shojin if it’s all squishies building no armor. 2 or 3 tanks, cleaver
Can go ingenious if they’re full AD (the enemy team) cause you’ll build it third - but taking it prior is kinda sus cause i’d only go sunderer sky second if i was super fed which is uncertain
as always npcs learn that some item is op from their favorite yelling streamer and procceed to play it every time telling you its op item so it works with everyone duh
I'm not sure about the comment about vegans, that seems uncalled for. I personally use sundered sky as my second item over the BC as it gives you massive sustain throughout fights and the damage is only a little bit less than bc (I've tested both and I wasn't impressed with the BC dmg). In general I think BC is a bit overrated, but hey thats my opinion, anything can still change this season
I agree with you on SS being bad as a first item. I always go Ecplise first, but SS second or third, with ingenious hunter, having both item cds on a 4 second cooldown per target is insane, and opens the door for some pretty good fights. As for the rest of your comments and suggestions I’d 100% agree.
that means you get the 5 stacks on ingenious early then?
it only goes down to 4s after 5 stacks, no?
@@TeacherKali Typically, yes, usually by 10 minutes, I'll have all five. Because I roam and play make quite often and will coordinate ganks with my team.
Glad to see that you made this. Eclipse OP and I really appreciate you mentioning cleaver second because of how it's so good to help you outplay bruisers. Especially because my preferred play style last season was lethality because of how fun it is. I do appreciate the added sustainability you get from SS, but it really is a little overrated. It's too expensive to be anything more than a third item or maybe second, depending on situations.
I'm also planning on trying your boots strat. I know how op Ionians are but I keep going tabis or mercs bc I lack confidence. That said, I don't think you're correct and I just need to fix the confidence issue with more practice.
as chal peak lee main eune, profane hydra full lethality lee works best for me, stomping every game and late game can oneshot 2 or 3 enemies in fight, try profane and your cs per min will double, also dark harvest is a must in this setup
LOL i tried profane and it felt so awkward with the combos - do you have an op.gg?
@@ImNxiLoL yes my current is l33sln#ndh
@@ImNxiLoL bro was not ready for the background checks 😆
i play lee sin often and u are right on point
I can 100% confirm this, even when ahead building sundered sky feels bad, its cring., the build path of eclipse and getting eclipse early feels really really nice, you have a garanted 100% to 0% an squishy target, it enables you to force plays and get more ahead, no need to mention that is exactly what you want on lee sin.
Thanks dude for the dope guides. Any chance you can make a belveth video?
I’ll probably consider it!
Would you consider making a video detailing different strategies and play styles and their viability? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that topic. Obviously every game varies, but a general guide would be good to see.
Im earning lee, and eclipse is just op, good video
sundered sky with eclipse first and ingenious hunter is so so so powerful its insane.
don't even play Lee but yt recommended this vid and i was interested. you can tell you actually know what you're talking about. really good points about fake stats that don't matter. also very good argument for elixirs and pinks i wouldn't have thought about that but it is true the utility of ward hop far outweighs any component
What are your thoughts on profane hydra? Expensive but brutalizer is an insane first item if you get full clear + first blood. The active is insanely bursty and your farm snowball is unmatched and great for 1v9ing games especially if your support is afk and skirmishing early is losing.
This is why its also great on Xin.
What do you think about building jak'sho on lee sin, like fifth item? It seems pretty strong right now
Hey, until i ranked up yesterday i was the best BRONZE lee sin in NA (according to league of graphs). I’ve just gotten back into league this season, and i picked up ur channel from a video you made a few weeks back. I wanted ur eclipse rush guide and it’s give me a 61% winrate with 60 games played. it’s super easy for me to snowball in low elo especially because a lot of lanes troll and chase, that usually let’s me pull up and get free kills. Anyways, i just wanted to say thanks for the help, this is the best i’ve ever played in my life. I’m a big fan and plan on getting to at least gold this season (i started iron 2). i’ll be watching!
yw bro im live streaming all day right now www.twitch.tv/imnxi
Mic sounds great, not putting an antipop on it is a bad decision
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As the best lee sin low Elo na , I approve this upload
Hi bro i tried these days the ingenious hunter build with eclipse sundered sky and mow/ga the ga feels really broken with 3 min cd i feel like you have it have crucial fight
idk about bc second with the nerfs it got in s14. I did some testing with viego and it was always worse than sundered sky on base armor targets even on THIRD item spot. Ofc that changes when enemies build armor but ye I think its probably the same for lee
What do you think about ignesius hunter second rune eclipse first sundered sky second and after its matcup based?
Damn you real live explained this video well on my momma stamp jih like fr 😂
Love the video as a Lee player myself. Would you consider doing coaching?
great video man
I mean why would you ever go cleaver if no one is building armor? You’re better off going shojin if it’s all squishies building no armor. 2 or 3 tanks, cleaver
Ur the goat for this
i already figured this out weeks ago just by looking at the stats
Do you rush eclipse even when u start from behind?
Podrías subir una builds y runas para jugar Lee Sin en URF?
Profane hydra ever a thing on Lee?
what about sterak?
In the first clip why did u skip gromp?
Seeing a lot of people in low elo building steraks on him
damn look at this guy calling the shift a month in advance
Why no sudden impact
What do u think abt ingenious hunter then building eclipse and sundered 1st and second? In games withoyt that much bc value ofc
Can go ingenious if they’re full AD (the enemy team) cause you’ll build it third - but taking it prior is kinda sus cause i’d only go sunderer sky second if i was super fed which is uncertain
@@ImNxiLoLi excatly understand what you mean
SO what would you do vs high cc comps?
I still go ionian! You just have to keep track of enemy abilities and know when to go in
MAKE MORE VIDEOS BRO!!!
eclipse easy the best first item. Been building it since the season started
Fucking subbed
as always npcs learn that some item is op from their favorite yelling streamer and procceed to play it every time telling you its op item so it works with everyone duh
I went 0-8 trying to learn lee sin. thats 0 wins 8 losses btw
I'm not sure about the comment about vegans, that seems uncalled for. I personally use sundered sky as my second item over the BC as it gives you massive sustain throughout fights and the damage is only a little bit less than bc (I've tested both and I wasn't impressed with the BC dmg). In general I think BC is a bit overrated, but hey thats my opinion, anything can still change this season
I’m vegan and found no problem with it. It’s all perspective so I understand what he’s trying to say.
Imagine getting triggered over the reality that vegans are significantly deprived of nutrients. Ur not tough enough to be a real vegan lmao.