i still can't believe they remove the 50% atk buff for the sake of dmg % scale and flag sign buff (also with ridiculous 60sec cd) at least do something with her concentrate passive, like make full of concentrate to get buff like flag sign, rather than keep it for insta poking beehive and remove flag sign mech (tf i miss my flag sign exploding my after-image skill) what make the ava deal tons of dmg more than other path ? her CM1 and ice spear effect to fatal stinger take look at poking beehive, it has the longest cooldown for 2nd spec in lancea (same as plaga, but hey the dps skill of VP was CM3 right?) while it was the main dps skill of SB underdog SB, it's really good time for me to be a casual player
SB has a lot of potential rather than removing flag sign mech and increase % dmg take a look at spear hand it has a lot of potential, ED should make that skill usable like after casting skill make a circular gush that stay for 2-3sec, or keep it like spear hand's old days that throwing her spear dent blow also need some works, it has potential to be casted like halfmoon slash (moonlord) or make the action speed more faster when casting it fling-fling also got potential with the skill jade, why make it same like without jade ? ED should make flingfling VDJ throwable vertically (like bmj version extreme twister of ava, which is horizontally)
Best Lancea got buffed, Best girl, its pink, its cute, but most importantly it is Pink Lancea. I mean its different from many others. Who doesnt like pink and sparking skill effect on cute and best girl.
Meh, flag sign cooldown become 60 second. I thought it stay or at least go to 6 second cd. Reading patchnote, i thought PB instant will rise after 1 flag sign instant gain 20 bubble. Just like Flurry with RS instant in 5-6 sec cd. But meh 60 sec, pffft what a lame. At least piercing spike ex rise up from 50% to 400% and explode faster now. Still kinda salty knowing flag sign cooldown thought.
@@Celicia-2128 is it? it seems like a dps buff overall. piercing spike got 60% increased damage (so still 10% more than with the 50% damage increase pre-buff) and the explosion damage got buffed as well, not to mention its easier to use since you dont need flag sign to make it explode. and eventhough poking beehive lost a little damage you can cast the instant version more often now with the 20 energy you get from flag sign, which should make up for the % lost it seems like overall it will be a buff damage wise after all.
@@meloneenbaum its still a dps loss.. Just simple computation proves it. The dmg of your skills highly depends on your matk considering you cap crt and cdm.. Even with high skill dmg % if your matk is low then of course your dps is low. SB before this upcoming rework have increased 50% total matk buff from that instant poking which you can easiy keep/maintain all throughout your run with proper rot. Perhaps on low lab you may feel like your dps improve but once you try it to higher labs like stg24 up then you will feel that dps loss..
As others also pointed out in some comments. Even if the use of flag sign gives instant poking, flag sign have 60sec cd which you can only use 5x max in stg. You lucky if you really use those 5instant poking too since both flag sign and poking have cast animation even if you try to cancel that cast animation with other skills
@@recklessboi-qs8yx but DDJ is the best Skill Jade for SB, why not use it? Literally the dev didn't even play their game. They make the flag sign skill super redundant if you want to maximize DPS. The other use is to explode the awakening skill that has a 60s cd lmao.
@@histoiria7714 I used bmj and ddj for my Sting Breezer too. But before I got my DDJ i was able to utilize the flag sign / 2x piercing spike combo in mid-air with a follow-up Fling Fling. Flag sign also works on Angelic Sper too. But you have to be fast in doing it. I don't use Dent Impact these days if you're talking about that Awakening Skill that has 60sec CD. I'd rather use the Ancient Skill.
DDJ is good for SB. You can add more damage if you have BMJ too. ADJ is good too but I don't have it at the moment so I use both DDJ and BMJ to maximize my damage. If you want you can look for me in ch16 on the left side stairwell with a cafe.
@@zein5770this update is very bad for SB. And especially if you are PvP player. PvP SB is bad enough now they destroy her even more with flag sign nerf. PvE SB does not change much. It's buffing and at the same time nerfing so its balancing. Damage wise, it's good Gameplay wise, it's bad
i still can't believe they remove the 50% atk buff for the sake of dmg % scale and flag sign buff (also with ridiculous 60sec cd)
at least do something with her concentrate passive, like make full of concentrate to get buff like flag sign, rather than keep it for insta poking beehive and remove flag sign mech (tf i miss my flag sign exploding my after-image skill)
what make the ava deal tons of dmg more than other path ? her CM1 and ice spear effect to fatal stinger
take look at poking beehive, it has the longest cooldown for 2nd spec in lancea (same as plaga, but hey the dps skill of VP was CM3 right?) while it was the main dps skill of SB
underdog SB, it's really good time for me to be a casual player
SB has a lot of potential rather than removing flag sign mech and increase % dmg
take a look at spear hand it has a lot of potential, ED should make that skill usable like after casting skill make a circular gush that stay for 2-3sec, or keep it like spear hand's old days that throwing her spear
dent blow also need some works, it has potential to be casted like halfmoon slash (moonlord) or make the action speed more faster when casting it
fling-fling also got potential with the skill jade, why make it same like without jade ? ED should make flingfling VDJ throwable vertically (like bmj version extreme twister of ava, which is horizontally)
Flag sign be like "Im gonna expose my panty instead of skill"
this comment killed me 😂
Wow , what a buff
I forgot this class exist
Best Lancea got buffed, Best girl, its pink, its cute, but most importantly it is Pink Lancea. I mean its different from many others.
Who doesnt like pink and sparking skill effect on cute and best girl.
flag sign cooldown change to 60s, is it bug? there is no written in patchnote about the cooldown change to 60s
Meh, flag sign cooldown become 60 second. I thought it stay or at least go to 6 second cd.
Reading patchnote, i thought PB instant will rise after 1 flag sign instant gain 20 bubble. Just like Flurry with RS instant in 5-6 sec cd. But meh 60 sec, pffft what a lame.
At least piercing spike ex rise up from 50% to 400% and explode faster now. Still kinda salty knowing flag sign cooldown thought.
well SB mechanic is easier now, but her DPS will improve ?
no, big dps loss without the 50% dmg increase from the concentration buff
They made her more comfortable to playing and less dependent from your ms. Bur as dude said above its a dps loss
@@Celicia-2128 is it? it seems like a dps buff overall. piercing spike got 60% increased damage (so still 10% more than with the 50% damage increase pre-buff) and the explosion damage got buffed as well, not to mention its easier to use since you dont need flag sign to make it explode. and eventhough poking beehive lost a little damage you can cast the instant version more often now with the 20 energy you get from flag sign, which should make up for the % lost
it seems like overall it will be a buff damage wise after all.
@@meloneenbaum its still a dps loss.. Just simple computation proves it. The dmg of your skills highly depends on your matk considering you cap crt and cdm.. Even with high skill dmg % if your matk is low then of course your dps is low. SB before this upcoming rework have increased 50% total matk buff from that instant poking which you can easiy keep/maintain all throughout your run with proper rot. Perhaps on low lab you may feel like your dps improve but once you try it to higher labs like stg24 up then you will feel that dps loss..
As others also pointed out in some comments. Even if the use of flag sign gives instant poking, flag sign have 60sec cd which you can only use 5x max in stg. You lucky if you really use those 5instant poking too since both flag sign and poking have cast animation even if you try to cancel that cast animation with other skills
When the assassin got skill boost ? Especially abyss walker😂
The flag sign was so useless before that I never use it in dungeon or nest
if you dont read the skill specifications or use DDJ then yeah its useless
Try using it after using piercing spike..
Without the DDJ
@@recklessboi-qs8yx but DDJ is the best Skill Jade for SB, why not use it? Literally the dev didn't even play their game. They make the flag sign skill super redundant if you want to maximize DPS. The other use is to explode the awakening skill that has a 60s cd lmao.
@@histoiria7714 I used bmj and ddj for my Sting Breezer too.
But before I got my DDJ i was able to utilize the flag sign / 2x piercing spike combo in mid-air with a follow-up Fling Fling.
Flag sign also works on Angelic Sper too. But you have to be fast in doing it. I don't use Dent Impact these days if you're talking about that Awakening Skill that has 60sec CD.
I'd rather use the Ancient Skill.
DDJ is good for SB. You can add more damage if you have BMJ too.
ADJ is good too but I don't have it at the moment so I use both DDJ and BMJ to maximize my damage.
If you want you can look for me in ch16 on the left side stairwell with a cafe.
Flag Sign 60s cd
50 Atk boost dmg removed
GG Sting
is it worse than now?
@@zein5770this update is very bad for SB. And especially if you are PvP player. PvP SB is bad enough now they destroy her even more with flag sign nerf.
PvE SB does not change much. It's buffing and at the same time nerfing so its balancing.
Damage wise, it's good
Gameplay wise, it's bad
any spoil balancing class next month ?????
Eh? It's underwhelming so sad..
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