Stan Kenton - Minor Booze 1972 (1)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Stan Kenton and his Orchestra recorded London, 6 February 1972. Does the original BBC recording exist for DVD release?
Stan Kenton, Mike Vax, Dennis Noday, Jay Saunders, Ray Brown, Joe Marcinkiewicz, Dick Shearer, Mike Jamieson, Fred Carter, Mike Wallace, Phil Herring, Quin Davis, Richard Torres, Kim Frizell, Willie Maiden, Chuck Carter, Ramon Lopez, John Worster, John Von Ohlen
Hi, I was and still am a big fan of his music. Any time he and his band appeared at the Bird Land in NYC, I was there.
Maybe the best 'bone section of any big band ever, led by the amazing Dick Shearer.
Very tight indeed
Except they couldn’t swing
@@russellziske7385 They could if they played any, but they don't.
Hey, if you're ever in Cincinnati, Von Ohlen leads a big band on Wednesday nights at the Blue Wisp in downtown Cincy. 7-8 dollar cover charge. Best 8 bucks you'll spend. He's still kicking it.
Such powerful music!
You're right. This may be one of Kenton's best bands. John Von Ohlen's style was perfect for the Kenton Orchestra. Still one of the finest big band drummers living today.
I saw him with Peter Erskine around this time, Erskine is pretty friggin good too!!!
Wow. I've been listening to Von Ohlen for over 20 years since discovering 'Live in London' when I was 14. This is the first time I've ever seen him play, though. He's 100 times cooler than I even thought he'd be. Wow, what a monster. I can see why Jeff Hamilton's always talking about him.
Soooooo gooooood!!! Where has that tune been all my life? Thought I’d heard ‘em all since I’ve been a Kenton disciple for 50 years! Minor Booze? Great discovery = great day!! Opening with a walking bass? Oh-oh, you know it’s going to be good! Playing in Kenton’s band would keep a musicians skills sharp Couldn’t let down or allow yourself to get sloppy (unlike other bands that I will not name).
I led a night kicks band in San Diego for over twenty years and one of my Bone played with the Kenton Band. And I got to produce his band in 1974
That's got to be my favorite Stan Kenton tune. Willie Maiden wrote it and it COOKS. Have played it several times and I love playing it as much as I love listening to it.
hey man kenton is kick ass i grew up listening to this! My father was a jazz trombonist in Dayton and he dreamed of playing 1st chair for Kenton!!
Wow
This 'era' of the Kenton band doesn't get enough credit in my view. I believe, due largely to their later work with odd time signatures and instrumentation, that people often forget that they could flat out SWING with the best of them. This particular chart is a great example and remains one of my favorite Kenton band tunes.
That's a very good observation. I first heard the Kenton band in person back about 1955 and was HUGELY impressed. Heard them again about 5 years later, same Fort Ord Soldier's Club, and could easily hear the difference. And then, through the different recordings through the years, the changes were clearly distinguishable. All good but when a band swings, all the players giving their best, there is nothing like it except perhaps a steam locomotive going full speed.
@@nemo227 True! it gets NOWHERE near enough
@@nemo227
The only kenton band member on the Blue Wisp Big Band currently is John Von Ohlen himself. Tim Hagens who was a member of the kenton band was on the Blue Wisp Big Band in the early 80s, however he left for New York in about 1984 . Those are the only two ever that were on Stan Kentons band, and now theres only one, Von Ohlen.
I've listened to about six versions of this tune and I think this group knows how to play the tune. Of course, I AM a Stan Kenton band fan (since 1955).
Just a note: Ray Brown stopped playing due to surge in his recording studio headphones rupturing his inner ear, not because of a lip injury. In addition to teaching, he continues to be a brilliant arranger for big band and studio orchestra.
He teaches at my college. One of the greatest Jazz educators of our time.
Hes a really funny and wonderful guy too.
Who wouldn't have liked to play in this band back in 1972?
The Kenton band proving it could get into the groove
Many of the marching bands use them. They are called "marching baritones" or "marching horns". In the early 70's we used to borrow mellophoniums from the UC Berkeley Cal Band and play Kenton charts with them. We wern't the only area band doing it either. UC was doing a tidy little business renting them out
i'm playing this song for my school on 1st Trombone! it's badass and it's a killer!!!
the best 5 minutes of big band jazz, ever.
The trombones are AWESOME!
We need more bands like this!
This song was on the Redlands album too
Awesome!! I love this tune!
Willie Maiden’s creation...great chart!
Oh, man!! What an exciting band! Thanks for so much for sharing.
I was long gone by '75. Very possible you saw YVHS and one of the girls was probably Nancy Fettig, Kenton saxohonist Mary Fettig's younger sister.
For Stan's london cruise he got together a great bunch of top guys, who would show us Brits that the homegrown American jazz was the finest in the world - and didn't he just prove it!!
Ted Heath was called the Stan Kenton of England
Ken Swan Ted was the best of British Pretty good in many ways - but never compare English with the real thing.
I still treasure my Ted Heath big band records.
@@MrJazzologist1 Ted Heath had the best big band England ever had and for sheer musical virtuosity, it could outplay the majority of American big bands of that era!
Nice
there are those trombones again wow heavy shit!
It's Ray Brown on flugelhorn. I learned the basics of improv from him at Cabrillo College. Ray is an amazing musician and a great guy! He's introduced so many to improvisation. The man has really made a mark in the world of jazz education. Like this arrangement? There's a good chance Ray put the chart together, as he was also arranging for Stan Kenton at the time. Ray also has an awesome jazz arranging course he offers at Cabrillo College. I will forever regret not taking that course and learning how to put a chart together before I moved out of state!
Didn't Cabrillo College have a band leader with the same name as another famous jazz musician? Maybe it Ray Brown is the one I'm thinking of but I seem to remember another "duplicate" name from about 20+ years ago.
Ray Brown is also the name of a well-known jazz bassist. To make matters even stranger, they played together for a time. I wonder how they worked around that?
Dude, there are dynamics galore here. The szforzandos are almost oversttated, actually. I get that the overall attitude of this arrangement is "big", but that's the point. And I personally love it, and I personally understand why one might not like it (I guess), but please - this arrangement builds as masterfully as any other in terms of shape and dynamics.
Imagine standing in front of that band rather than being in the audience...a SUPER THRILL. I did!
I'm pretty sure its a flugel because the lead pipe goes directly into the valves. In a mello, the lead pipe connects with the valves like a trumpet. I do agree that it sometimes sounds more like a mello than a flugel, but that could be the player's choice in mouthpiece or simply how he chose to play.
I did not go to El Camino, but I remember that band and their director, Warren C. Heckman. He was a SF State Grad and really got hooked on SK in the late 60's. He was among the first in the bay area to jump on it when the charts were first published. Also Pacific HS in San Leandro and Mt. Diablo HS in Concord were a couple of others I recall.
I went to Ygnacio Valley in Concord.
El Camino had a mellophonium section at that time. Late 60's, early 70's I think. They were pictured in the Daly City Times.
Kenton Classic
выдающийся оркестр ,который ,я слушал в подростковом возрасте.особенно обалдел от композизиции " в т емпе"
The Rebel Stan & His Band ...........The Best bad boy band EVER.......Ohhhhyeah
Love Minor Booze!!!
Flugelhorn solo is by Ray Brown. Ray was with Kenton for a couple of years and now lives and works in the SF Bay area. His brother Steve is a fine guitarist who taught at Ithaca College for years. They are a very musical family.
Hyslop65 Ray taught me how to play piano in a big band!
Jonny Watts Ray is a talented guy. The entire family of Brown's are fine musicians
Has anyone else noticed the similarity between Willie Maiden's 'Where's Teddy" from Maynard's 'Dancing Sessions' LP, and Willie Maiden's 'A Little Minor Booze"? A startling likeness. Love them both x
Maynard played with Kenton. May have something to do with it.
@@bobbyjurgeleit4549 The Maynard connection is probably not so pertinent. The fact that Willie Maiden played in and wrote for both bands is more relevant. It just goes to show that ain't nothing new under the sun! :)
I saw Willie with the SK band. That was before the tune was renamed to a Little Minor BLUES. I'll leave the rest for imagination.
Ok really liking this tune ;-) Smokin'!
This song is the best(:
Von Ohlen kicks ass
Monster Chart!!!
Why are bones playing the moving eight notes so straight in the opener, when everything else is swinging like crazy? Conscious decision to be different?
oh man those shakes are kick-ass. thats a monstrous flugel- looks like a euphonium minus 8 feet of tubing
To answer Hepcat's question as to no jazz bone in 72 video..
I can say partially that I guess that I was one of the few musicians EVER to turn down an offer to play jazz bone in his band.This was a face to face confrontation on the band bus ride from N. Jersey back to Manhattan in 67.Dick Shearer never spoke to me again.It turned out to be a smart move on my part because a year later I began a very successful period as a busy studio trombonist/composer-arranger in Holland!
Our band plays this.
Lucky bastard. That must've been a great time....
Minor と、つく曲に駄曲なし‼ そして、Stan Kenton はいつの時代も輝いていた‼
Ray Brown on Flugelhorn!
... was für ein starker Posaunensatz.
Da knazt's aber gewaltig im Gebälk,
dass es einem vom Stuhl zieht.
Kenton 72 ist super-moderner den je.
War er aber auch schon ende der 40er.
So loud and tight
Ray Brown
niiice. How different is it from other mello's?
Wow I found Ray Brown teaches at cabrillo a great teacher
Stan is calling out Quinn Davis on alto & Warren Dale on ( trumpet ) but on this version looks to be flugelhorn
I know. It's almost worth making a trip over there! I'm in Seattle but if I ever find an excuse to swing out there I'll definitely be there.
Ray Brown needed a shampoo!
Everybody taking about John Von Ohlen and Peter Erskine. No One said a word about Jerry Lestock McKenzie. I think Jerry really kick the band just list to Adventure in jazz, Adventure in blues and Adventure in time
Who's the Alto saxophone soloist?
Yeah if you need another example check out Chuck Mangione.
John Worster on bass!
Debbie, aren't we glad that until recently there were no bass "guiters"?
Ken Swan Bass guitars destroy the harmonics of orchestrations. Like an intrusive show-off at a good party.
+Ken Swan well considering he still has a bass "guiter" on a stand next to him.... and you also really can't play funk on an upright. Well I mean, you could try but my fingers would probably fall off.
And Jez from 3 Inf Div Post Coiteliers
Herb 8th Armoured Ateliers
The Durham Light Infantry
10th/11th Hussars (Cherry Pickers)
Kev 3rd Carboniers (Princess Diana's Own)
615 SMPS (Queen's Bodyguard Royal Military Police)
And innumerable British army regiments formed before the U.S.A was even discovered also say hello.
That tom harrell on the flugel solo?
I think it's ray brown
It's Ray Brown. I learned the basics of improv from him at Cabrillo College. Ray is an amazing musician and a great guy!
@@johnsouthern3692 heck yeah! Did you take the intermediate or beggining improv class? Or both? I'm taking his jazz/pop music theory class right now and it's awesome
That's great. Nobody better to learn jazz theory from than Ray Brown. I took the whole improv sequence. I then transferred into UCSC and played guitar for two years in their jazz studies program. Ray's classes were a very big part of me landing that coveted spot.
@kingkoeller
Quinn Davis
Dickus! 2:37
Ignorance, most likely. It's common amongst the fashionable :-D
Drummistic,
It's grammar unless you meant Grammer as in Kelsey! Did you ever study spelling? Or anything else!
KENTON VALE POCO, MA HA SEMPRE SOLISTI DI
CLASSE ! (TRIESTE ITALIA).
This sounds like bad sound track to a B movie of the fifties. Dreary, directionless, loud, lacking in dynamics. A poor imitation of a great band.
rlneesam Yup. There’s one in every crowd. Idiot!!