The Impossible Turn. Still Impossible.

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @GaryNumeroUno
    @GaryNumeroUno 4 часа назад +6

    Have a great Christmas Dan.
    Been great watching your videos throughout the year. Your work with AQP is priceless and saving many lives.
    Best regards for 2025, from Oz.
    Gaz 😊

    • @ProbableCause-DanGryder
      @ProbableCause-DanGryder  3 часа назад +1

      Thank you, we are making some progress now! Our best to you and your family this season. -Dan

  • @jeffleverence4554
    @jeffleverence4554 13 часов назад +41

    Dan is saving lives every day. How many of you know-it-alls criticize him as you sit on the sidelines and think about how perfect you are. How many things have you done lately to save some lives? Happy holidays.

    • @jayjayconcordeconcorde9529
      @jayjayconcordeconcorde9529 10 часов назад +6

      A lot of people don't like to hear the truth. A lot of pilots don't like to hear that they're not the badass Maverick but schmucks. Dan keeps it real and that's why I keep checking in with him.
      Before Dan's videos everybody would just say planes crash that's just what happens let's wait for NTSB to come out with facts on two years. Meanwhile we decorate these dead pilots as fallen heroes rather than holding them and the community accountable for negligence or incompetence. Having an expert like Dan comb through the facts helps to dispell the myths while providing timely meaningful feedback as to why these frequent accidents occur. Dan even holds local governments and massive agencies like EAA and AOPA accountable and that's to do with his law background. Very few are able to do what Dan does and it leaves little space for the schmucks to shine. And that's why he gets criticized by haters. But he's doing something meaningful and positive for the aviation space.

    • @TheUtuber999
      @TheUtuber999 8 часов назад +3

      Guilty until proven innocent, are we?

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 14 часов назад +18

    Congratulations James Barbie. Firefighter of the year is a great honor. The 2 planes hitting is insane. Just land in the grass. I couldn’t believe it.

    • @vgrof2315
      @vgrof2315 13 часов назад +6

      No need to land for the guy until he had a clear runway available. Plane was flying fine.

    • @Eddievoneddie13
      @Eddievoneddie13 8 часов назад +2

      @@vgrof2315 Yup. Engine ignition magnetos function normally after an airframe electrical system failure.

  • @cwgreen1938
    @cwgreen1938 13 часов назад +21

    Dan, this is Clifford Green from Bangs, Texas 76823 wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. I am sure we did better on our GA fatal accidents this year mostly because of your Probable Cause Program.

    • @frisk151
      @frisk151 10 часов назад +1

      Hello fellow Texan... This is off topic.. 53 years here in Texas with lord only knows how many miles on the road and have lived in all 4 big cities plus Junction and Sulphur Springs in East Texas.. I had never heard of Bangs! I'm glad you posted it! You cost me about an hour + researching and looking by way of Google Earth / maps... I had a cousin and family living in Brownwood but I didn't get out there that often.. Bangs looks like a pretty nice "little" (heh) town! Have a Merry Christmas! Shoot.. Now I have to go back and look for landing strips.. Public and private.. You might have one in your back yard.. Take care!!

    • @RambleOn.
      @RambleOn. 2 часа назад

      Agreed!

  • @Eddievoneddie13
    @Eddievoneddie13 8 часов назад +7

    On the C-208 incident in HI: IIRC, as far back as the 1920s, it was stated that if you experience an engine failure or severe reduction in power after takeoff (in a single engine aircraft), that you DO NOT turn back to the airfield/airport. I was taught that you identify and know at least several emergency landing sites on your departure path, prior to the final checklist for departure.

  • @bubbsy2002
    @bubbsy2002 14 часов назад +14

    Live long and prosper Dan and family, thanks for all you have done, St. John’s Canada!

  • @John-xn2of
    @John-xn2of 14 часов назад +13

    Dan from Placentia California. We all LOVE you for your excellent efforts!

  • @tomwilson1006
    @tomwilson1006 14 часов назад +27

    1 Millican = 1/1000 of a can 🥫

    • @retydeere1111
      @retydeere1111 12 часов назад

      In all cases.

    • @scottp.5161
      @scottp.5161 11 часов назад

      Boom! Shacka lacka

    • @MichaelOfRohan
      @MichaelOfRohan 10 часов назад +1

      How original I couldnt imagina a world where people saw something socially relevant and copied it for their own interaction farm.

  • @hoosierplowboy5299
    @hoosierplowboy5299 13 часов назад +5

    Merry Christmas, Dan! Thanks for all you do...😊

  • @vossierebel
    @vossierebel 6 минут назад

    Thanks for all you do to keep fliers and families alive! may you and your family and friends have a wonderful Christmas and restful festive season!

  • @AlvinUselton
    @AlvinUselton 14 часов назад +7

    Merry Christmas to you and yours from Ft Worth

  • @robertlundstrom8061
    @robertlundstrom8061 14 часов назад +7

    Really good job Dan.

  • @drbrown300
    @drbrown300 13 часов назад +4

    Merry Christmas, Dan!
    The plane that iced-up and stalled on landing happened at Felts Field in Spokane, Washington.
    I received my A&P license and learned to fly there. I loved to fly over Mt. Spokane and watch the
    skiers. Good times.

  • @LCafran
    @LCafran 12 часов назад +2

    Dan…Wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Safe and Happy New Year’s. Thank you for all you do to make GA safe. God bless!🙏🇺🇸🛩

  • @david25876
    @david25876 14 часов назад +7

    Merry Christmas from Northern Colorado ❤

  • @christopherfoster3744
    @christopherfoster3744 14 часов назад +6

    Hi ! Merry Christmas from Delaware to everyone !

  • @SWright1978
    @SWright1978 8 часов назад +2

    Dan’s plan: idiots stop flying for a couple of weeks!

  • @DeereX748
    @DeereX748 10 часов назад +2

    Dan, the plane that rear-ended the 172 on the runway was a Grumman that lost its electrical system. The pilot apparently thought he'd lost engine power as well, didn't know the magnetos don't need an electrical system to work. Juan Brown did a nice piece on it the other day.

  • @blueheelerfriend8450
    @blueheelerfriend8450 12 часов назад +2

    Have a Merry Christmas Dan!!! God bless and keep you safe!

  • @23aviatorguy
    @23aviatorguy 8 часов назад +2

    You are one of the rare pilots who crashed and can talk about it. You don't know how lucky you are!!

  • @paulputnam2305
    @paulputnam2305 8 часов назад +1

    Thank YOU and Merry Christmas to you and all your family and friends. Much Respect, Love, and Hugs.
    “Woof Woof”

  • @lessharratt8719
    @lessharratt8719 13 часов назад +4

    Merry Christmas DGPC.

  • @JaymesEaston
    @JaymesEaston 13 часов назад +6

    I'm not a pilot, but I am an old guy- 77 and clicking. i believe the expression for an "impossible turn" is GRAVEYARD STALL. The stall comes first and then the spin. Right?

  • @H2R5GSXR
    @H2R5GSXR 10 часов назад

    Merry Christmas Dan. This is ex-PFE Tom in Alaska. Sure happy you recovered and are still educating pilots on how to stay alive. You are indeed amazing.

  • @mauricehrolfe4466
    @mauricehrolfe4466 12 часов назад +1

    Merry Christmas and a very happy new year to you and yours Dan. From Yackandandah Australia.

  • @frisk151
    @frisk151 9 часов назад +1

    Part of my previous post was trying to be humorous at first.. I fail at that 50/50.. ;). I too want to show APPRECIATION to you for all you have done to help other, and especially AND educating people like me online . I don't want to die doing what I love! Accident analysis became my thing the 'deeper' into cave and technical deep wreck diving I went.. I've always had a love of aviation and I consider my PPL a learners permit until I really have the time to run up the training and experience.. I'm 53.. It is amateur flying.. Like accident analysis with diving (not open water - technical).. I watch everyone of your videos.. Juan and Hoover as well... You all share much more than most instructors teach at the puppy mills = schools, in a lot of cases.. So, all that appreciation I was talking about in the previous post to EMT's, Nurses and Doctors... None of them are needed outside of confirmation your lawn darting adventure ended with no pulse.. IF you aren't a rorschach slouch at best.. Apologies for the long posts.. Just explaining my appreciation... Bill me! ;)

  • @Doc-BTW
    @Doc-BTW 9 часов назад

    Merry Christmas DAN & Probable Cause family -- Thank you for everything you do

  • @Ranchhand323
    @Ranchhand323 14 часов назад +4

    Alabama , Merry Christmas !

  • @SCOTT.RITTER.ARGENTINA.
    @SCOTT.RITTER.ARGENTINA. 8 часов назад +2

    Feliz Navidad, te deceo buena salud.

  • @russellriggins3893
    @russellriggins3893 29 минут назад

    Another great video Dan, thank you. You and others, Scott Purdue come to mind, talk always about a gear up > gear down for off field landings. I 100% agree. Someone needs to do a basic video explaining 'why'. The short of it is friction. Your plane has a lot more friction with the ground when it's gear up - the belly, the wings, all of it. This decelerates the plane more in shorter space (off field). Gear down may extend your distance which could risk putting your plane into more solid objects, like trees or buildings, which will gladly stop your plane for you very quickly. Land off field Gear Up to increase your friction with the ground and get your plane stopped. Merry Christmas!

  • @AquaMarine1000
    @AquaMarine1000 13 часов назад +3

    Hi Dan, as we say downunder " You are a funny bugger", wear that like a honour. Cheers

    • @TheUtuber999
      @TheUtuber999 8 часов назад +1

      They say the same thing up above (in England). 😁

    • @phatcy
      @phatcy Час назад

      ​@TheUtuber999 but up above you ARE the bugger, not the buggee!

  • @SteveFletcher-d2i
    @SteveFletcher-d2i 13 часов назад +1

    Merry Christmas to you and your boys Dan. Merry Christmas to all the viewers.

  • @SteveFletcher-d2i
    @SteveFletcher-d2i 12 часов назад +2

    I am from Spokane our weather has been prime for icing conditions all of December.

  • @randyc1421
    @randyc1421 13 часов назад +1

    Merry Christmas, Dan and friends and family! 🙋

  • @WillaHerrera
    @WillaHerrera 12 часов назад

    Thank you for your honesty and sharing your invaluable knowledge and experience.
    You are undoubtedly saving lives every day.

  • @AaronWbirdman
    @AaronWbirdman 11 часов назад +1

    Hey Dan wishing you and the boys a very Merry Xmas and a healthy and happy New Year. Aaron from Venice

  • @christianhenry4324
    @christianhenry4324 13 часов назад +5

    Hey Dan I passed my CFI initial!

    • @Dane3804
      @Dane3804 10 часов назад

      Congratulations 🎉

  • @gregbroburg7351
    @gregbroburg7351 15 часов назад +4

    Greetings from Minneapolis

  • @dorothylewis1207
    @dorothylewis1207 2 часа назад

    Merry Christmas Dan and Family 🙏❤️

  • @markheil6374
    @markheil6374 5 часов назад +1

    Saving lives - love it!

  • @waltchase3297
    @waltchase3297 9 часов назад

    I stopped on the debrief to post. So cool. I just retired from a little 121 company based in DAL last week. When you're getting "beat up" just keep learning. Training vs conditioning. DOH!!! It happens to us "pros" constantly. Our instructors and evaluators always get us fixed. Dan's drawings on the chalkboard sure brought back memories. This is all good stuff. Gear or not? Would it have worked? ??? Fly the plane! (MATM.) Maintain aircraft control, Analyze the situation, Take corrective action, Maintain situation awareness.

  • @olympiashorts
    @olympiashorts 13 часов назад +3

    The passenger in the rear-end accident described the situation as an emergency. My understanding was that it was simply an electrical failure. Has more information come out suggesting that they were making a forced landing?

  • @dlmyrs
    @dlmyrs 11 часов назад

    Thanks, Dan. Very informative, especially the night picture of being high or low on a trailer park approach. I used to fly with Mike Ginter in the Navy. Amazing pilot and great Officer. Nice to see him as AOPA safety chief.

  • @kczeuch3804
    @kczeuch3804 12 часов назад +1

    Best to you and your boys Dan.
    The Zeuchs in Pasadena, Maryland

  • @Benzos6149
    @Benzos6149 14 часов назад +2

    Better very late than not at all 😂 take care and enjoy the holiday everyone! 😉👍🇬🇧

  • @MikeM275
    @MikeM275 11 часов назад +2

    Late as usual! lol. I see you'll be at Craig soon. In the '80's I flew into Craig several times a month. So I noticed something odd in the plane runs into the back of another plane story. Narrator says plane lost all electronics. OK, Comm stack is dead I see that. No time for 7600 I guess. But several instruments are plainly taped over, looks like sticky notes and one looks painted over or something. You can see the ADF covered up among others, as if this was some weird type of training flight. Or possibly inoperative instruments so they taped them over as to not inadvertently look at them? Odd. OK, sudden loss of electrical power...it was plainly a VFR day, you can see the oil pressure gauge; the motor was fine. Why panic and dive into the runway like you're on fire? I say he panicked and for no reason.
    My little similar story: Late 1980's, flying back up the coast from Jax to Sav in a 172, VFR. Probably had 2-300 or so-ish hours at the time don't really remember. Flying with another pilot friend. Smoke suddenly fills the cockpit. Squawk 7700, ident, quickly let approach know we're coming in with no coms/electrical. They ask if we need the "equipment." I look at him, he looks at me, I say negative. (hopefully lol, really didn't want fire trucks & such chasing us down the runway if we made it in)...shut off electric and both start looking for landing spots just in case. We're at maybe 2000' by now and easing down. "Fly the plane" ... *while* looking for places to set down, while heading to a hopeful landing at home base. So we come in "on the lights" ... something 99% of pilots never have to do their entire lives. I remembered the codes, not much really when you're straight in...GREEN. I did point my nose toward the tower at every taxi intersection as trained to get the green. When I taxi in the FBO and others were there, *very* antsy I might add! First thing he did was thank me for not crashing his airplane LOL. The smoke? A secondary com fuse/melted wire

  • @pauldrayton8802
    @pauldrayton8802 4 часа назад

    Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year to you and your family, from Paul at Wagin (pronounced Wajin) West Australia, love your views and advice, Best Regards

  • @FL.AirBoater
    @FL.AirBoater 10 часов назад

    Checking in from central Fl.,Merry Christmas!!!

  • @Cpeugeot210
    @Cpeugeot210 13 часов назад +1

    Bout to set an attendance record!!

  • @HongyaMa
    @HongyaMa 12 часов назад +1

    That Caravan Cessna was flying a bunch - Was it fueled before its last flight? Was the fuel load not even?
    Was Roll control lost to a heavy wing (200 lbs limit?)

  • @rickewart372
    @rickewart372 12 часов назад

    Merry Christmas to you and your two Sons Dan! Thank you for what you do to try and keep us knuckle heads from killing ourselves. You ARE making a difference. Hey, I’m proof, I’m still alive!!!! 33:30 (I think!) 🤣 Rick Ewart, Miami Florida (KTMB)

  • @lucwel1
    @lucwel1 9 часов назад

    Merry Christmas Dan .
    Luc from Flanders Belgium Europe

  • @paulkilminster2420
    @paulkilminster2420 7 часов назад

    What you learn with a smile on your face you’ll always remember 😊

  • @apfelsnutz
    @apfelsnutz 13 часов назад +1

    I always land "high"... gravity works very well now for all my flying years...

  • @komrad1983
    @komrad1983 9 часов назад

    Just few days ago did an emergency landing on the way to EFD-FXE, had to divert to GPT after 2 hour of flight due to alternator failure. Brought her down normally, but the gear indication showed nose gear would not come down, cycled few times, still no green, did an emergency gear extension lever out and asked a tower to see if I have all three out, she said all three down (thanks for ATC help). Held her on two mains after touchdown a bit to make sure the slowest speed possible on ground and came out good, it held. Thanks for mechanics in GPT they found alternator wire broke off and I thought that was it, but. Guess what, next day trying to make to FXE my alternator started doing the same thing after 2 hour of flight. And I thought it was that wire, as mechanics fixed but no. Or that and something else, obviously. It would come on and off and finally stayed on to finish the flight, took off all of the load on alternator with just basic day pack systems flying within 20 minutes of every major airports. Boy, that was two hectic days, made it alive and good ADM. Thanks Dave, You inspire me to stay alive! Learning everyday for past 15 years to stay off you list! Merry Christmas! P.S Training on simulator with all good models out there while you can, helps me out and it will help you one day!

  • @tonycommons7305
    @tonycommons7305 12 часов назад

    MERRY CHRISTMAS DAN ❤

  • @daar1113
    @daar1113 12 часов назад +1

    Ever watched a cockpit video of the Shuttle landing? It always amazed me how "late" they wait to put the gear down. Of course there's no go around for them but I guess when your glide slope is already like a brick you don't want to make it even worse until the last possible moment.

  • @donkboys
    @donkboys 4 часа назад

    At 10:40, the accident involving the two planes landing on the same runway, why didn’t the trailing aircraft simply just put it down in the dirt to the side of the runway?

  • @waltchase3297
    @waltchase3297 9 часов назад

    I stopped again. 6 Blade props. Never saw such a thing on one of these. Used to go to the Reading airshow back in the day and 4 blades was huge. I diverged. Hoover flew his routine on 3 blades. Ha!

  • @Gus1966-c9o
    @Gus1966-c9o 8 часов назад +2

    Why didn’t the guy land on the grass to the left of the runway 🤦‍♂️

  • @ritzoh
    @ritzoh 14 минут назад

    Merry Christmas Dan!
    Rich from Mn. (2 mi from Flemming field So. St. Paul)

  • @fredkotthaus1518
    @fredkotthaus1518 3 часа назад

    Bainbridge Georgia here with y'all

  • @chawkinz
    @chawkinz 3 часа назад

    Hawaii C208, if engine failure why did they not turn RIGHT for parallel or diagonal runway?

  • @SteveFletcher-d2i
    @SteveFletcher-d2i 13 часов назад

    N. Idaho on Station. Merry Christmas to you and your boys Dan and Merry Christmas to you all.

  • @Skyhawk945
    @Skyhawk945 10 часов назад

    Merry Christmas! 🎅

  • @greenplanetchemdry
    @greenplanetchemdry 13 часов назад +1

    Merry Christmas from Hawaii but going back to LA tomorrow

  • @busman1415911
    @busman1415911 12 часов назад

    Happy holidays from Peterborough ontario canada 🎉

  • @arcanesaint
    @arcanesaint 10 часов назад +2

    I had commented that it was the impossible turn under another video & this guy commented “obviously not” - I watch an excessive amount of aviation content, glad to know I’m correct.

  • @axelknutt5065
    @axelknutt5065 4 часа назад

    So what happens if there have been only 4 more fatals by Dec 31? Do you have to find a volunteer for No.5 ?

  • @jordancoleman2402
    @jordancoleman2402 8 часов назад

    Wisconsin, Merry Christmas 🎁

  • @Darkvirgo88xx
    @Darkvirgo88xx 13 часов назад +1

    The media needs to sit out on aviation accidents. He could have landed in the grass. Everything else was in working order besides him not having the ability to communicate. Instead he barrels into an innocent pilots plane that luckily had no passengers or it would have been fatal.

    • @Eddievoneddie13
      @Eddievoneddie13 8 часов назад

      The pilot of the electrical failure aircraft did not need to commit to a final approach immediately behind another aircraft on final.

  • @blackbirdpie217
    @blackbirdpie217 6 часов назад

    That Inside Edition crash was ridiculous and had no cause. Instruments out when you're flying VFR on a beautiful day? Did he think his magnetos were going to quit? They aren't even part of the electrical system. Even so, if he had to come down he should have taken the grass. Insanely bad piloting.

  • @julzb7165
    @julzb7165 12 часов назад +1

    Merry Christmas Dan and everyone from Inverness, Scotland.
    Yet another great educational resource Dan.

  • @redbird444
    @redbird444 2 часа назад

    Lose your engine in an aircraft with a constant speed prop, pull it back to low RPM! It makes a huge difference with glide.

  • @budfo1
    @budfo1 12 часов назад +1

    Probable Clause 🎅🏻

  • @apfelsnutz
    @apfelsnutz 13 часов назад +1

    mERRY xMAS FROM rOSAMOND, cALIFORNIA...L00 .

  • @michaelpilot1000
    @michaelpilot1000 4 часа назад

    Felts Field is eastside Spokane Washington State

  • @to2455
    @to2455 Час назад

    I’ll volunteer for the non-fatal flights..

  • @mrm7309
    @mrm7309 14 часов назад +3

    Merry Christmas from Dallas TX

  • @TobinTwinsHockey
    @TobinTwinsHockey 4 часа назад

    The caravan pilots radioed that they were out of control. Out of control does not mean “we are attempting the impossible turn”

    • @ProbableCause-DanGryder
      @ProbableCause-DanGryder  3 часа назад

      I thot the same thing at first but that transmission came during the stall, not before…and I dont see a way for rigging to cause that flight profile. We will know more later I hope.

    • @TobinTwinsHockey
      @TobinTwinsHockey 3 часа назад

      @@ProbableCause-DanGryderfair point did not realize the timing of the call

  • @OttoByOgraffey
    @OttoByOgraffey 13 часов назад

    You said you were going to put the Sully video back up. Do you know when?

  • @raybankes7668
    @raybankes7668 11 часов назад

    Felts field is near Spokane Wa

  • @MichaelOfRohan
    @MichaelOfRohan 10 часов назад

    When the news says "the airplane crashed here" should be "the pilot crashed the plane here" its no wonder people are afraid to fly, those thing are prone to crash anywhere at any time and hurt people >_>

  • @vgrof2315
    @vgrof2315 13 часов назад +1

    Pretty sure "Robert" doesn't know what he's talking about. BTW, the Grumman should have simply done a 360 and landed on the runway. I thought I had heard that the Honolulu Caravan's engine was running at power all the way to the crash scene according to a witness. BTW, if the Honolulu Caravan had an engine failure after takeoff and the flight controls were good, the pilot's obvious best choice would NOT have been a left turn toward buildings, roads and autos, it would have been straight ahead into the lagoon or, if he thought he could make the reef runway, a right turn. I suspect he had some kind of lateral flight control failure. ???🎉

  • @parkburrets4054
    @parkburrets4054 11 минут назад

    Commanders are beautiful airplanes.

  • @jiyushugi1085
    @jiyushugi1085 13 часов назад +2

    It wasn't 'The Impossible Turn', the plane banked left immediately after liftoff and the bank angle continued to steepen until impact.
    Asymmetric flaps or aileron defect are possible causes.

  • @irgski
    @irgski 12 часов назад

    “…Probably Cause..” is more realistic!

  • @dlavarco
    @dlavarco 14 часов назад

    I didn't think the crash in HI was GA. They were flying cargo for Kamaka Air. As sad as the crash was for the 2 on board, maybe you picked one up for your stats.

    • @jiyushugi1085
      @jiyushugi1085 13 часов назад

      It was a training flight, no cargo, possibly asymmetric flaps or aileron issue. Plane went hard left immediately after liftoff.

    • @vgrof2315
      @vgrof2315 13 часов назад

      Was a training flight for Kamaka. Very unlikely there was any cargo onboard. The airplane certainly was a GA craft.

  • @iflycentral
    @iflycentral 3 часа назад

    I'm not flying for the remainder of the year. I'm getting a CDI installed right now, so my plane is down. So I won't be on your end of the year list. ; )

  • @davidharris2519
    @davidharris2519 12 часов назад

    hello from Conway ARK

  • @leonard.l2671
    @leonard.l2671 Час назад

    Can’t understand why pilots can’t use GPS more, have a practice to always setup with GPS RNAV setup for the runway you are landing, VFR or not.
    Hit nearest airport on your GPS when your engine quits, the extra minute you spend talking to the controller trying to figure out which airport you can reach is a minute you cannot afford. Even better, look down at your iPad and see what airport is within your glide range.. nothing within, you can make up your mind there and then to do an off field landing. Yes, don’t give me that look about using iPads.. it will help save your life and likely some lives on the ground.

  • @Jay-xb6nc
    @Jay-xb6nc 14 часов назад +1

    All that time, energy and money...just to die. No thanks. I'll leave the flying to the pros.

  • @keithkennedy2725
    @keithkennedy2725 12 часов назад

    Watching;Venice Louisiana…

  • @robp9129
    @robp9129 5 часов назад +1

    Happy Xmas to you and yours Dan, from across the pond in the UK 👌👏👏

  • @robinbanks4257
    @robinbanks4257 8 часов назад

    Timestamp 13 seconds.... did he say probable claws ??

  • @philipwethington7965
    @philipwethington7965 13 часов назад

    My question on this is why didn't he land on the grass right next to the runway ? Me I would had landed on the grass next to the runway he would not had hit him then.

  • @waltchase3297
    @waltchase3297 9 часов назад

    Why is the Commander wing not a good wing? I know nothing of this A/C. It's straight. Is it a critical wing or too short....? Teach me something on this.

  • @Phyllis-Watson
    @Phyllis-Watson 9 часов назад

    England Norfolk, not far from US bases Mildenhall and Lakenheath.

  • @victorrosa5323
    @victorrosa5323 7 часов назад

    Where's my hat?

  • @kevinhuber8723
    @kevinhuber8723 13 часов назад

    Howdy, chat isn't available for Me?