If you carefully compare a C2 (every series) to a G2 you are gonna spot some main differences, the most evident it's the structure of the action table and the pedal lyra anchoring. A G2 will be quite a lot more noisy, the X series has a thicker table than the previous. Then the way the plate is done (thickness, alloy, crafting precision) it's different and you should also explore the connection nut underneath the plate. The precision of the duplex scale, the robustness of the plate, the soundboard beveling, the higher notes soundboard impedance, the wood vein direction, the way the bridge is cut are at a completely different level and makes a lot of difference in the clearness of the sound. I'd definitely choose the X series over the other, the one in the video just need some love (and maybe it could be worth to restring with some nickel plated strings and polish the agraffes to obtain a good tuneability).
Thank u, very informative video. Just bought refurbished G5E... 1973. Play as good as new C5X. It's the same thing. No one knows my G5E is made in 1970s... it's always the player that the impression, not the piano :)
Spade legs will always be stronger. The larger the pedal box, the more stability. So more mass is always better. Look at Mason and Hamlin. Those things are overbuilt but have much greater stability overall. Thanks Russell for this video posting.
Do you have any info about Yamaha building Story and Clark pianos in the '70s and maybe early 80s? I have a Lowrey 5'3 Grand cica 1980. I know Lorey was a stencil brand for Story and Clark. Could it too have been a Yamaha?
Have a chance to buy a 1986 G2 from someone for $4k. What should I be looking out for when I go to play it? Have played 30+ years but never owned a grand.
I like the old look on C2 more than the new look on C2X. In my opinion, Yamaha is going backwards in term of piano exterior design. The new C2X has some similarity with Bosendorfer pianos (for example, the simple leg design). I know that they have acquired Bosendorfer, but it does not mean that they have to copy some features on Bosendorfer's piano and put them to C1X, C2X, C3X, or whatever new product line they have.
The C2X is heavily based off of the CFX. I don't think it has to do with Bosendorfer but more Yamaha's changes to "modernize" the look of their pianos.
6:59 WHACK! Seriously, though, thank you for this video. It answers some of the questions I've had about Yamaha pianos and it supports the general assumption that they are one of the most uniform piano manufacturers.
That C2X has an extra cross-brace in the plate, across the bass strings. I need to ask something about that. I'm presently looking at a piano that's advertised as a 1970 model Yamaha G2. Made in Japan most likely (I live in South Africa). This 1970 model (or so it is alleged) has that cross brace... I don't see that in any of your videos, it seems it only shows up some time after 1987. Is this perhaps specific to the US-made ones? I'm still waiting for the seller to send me the serial number, then I will know for sure what year it is.
Different color paint from the mid 1990's they went from gold to copper, we can refinish the gold plate in the new copper color if the piano is ordered that way.
Very informative! To my taste, the newer designs are cleaner and have a more modern look.
If you carefully compare a C2 (every series) to a G2 you are gonna spot some main differences, the most evident it's the structure of the action table and the pedal lyra anchoring. A G2 will be quite a lot more noisy, the X series has a thicker table than the previous.
Then the way the plate is done (thickness, alloy, crafting precision) it's different and you should also explore the connection nut underneath the plate. The precision of the duplex scale, the robustness of the plate, the soundboard beveling, the higher notes soundboard impedance, the wood vein direction, the way the bridge is cut are at a completely different level and makes a lot of difference in the clearness of the sound.
I'd definitely choose the X series over the other, the one in the video just need some love (and maybe it could be worth to restring with some nickel plated strings and polish the agraffes to obtain a good tuneability).
My 1970 all original (as far as I know) G2 has quite a squeaky sustain pedal at this point. I think it needs some TLC, as it has been 53 years!
Thank u, very informative video. Just bought refurbished G5E... 1973. Play as good as new C5X. It's the same thing. No one knows my G5E is made in 1970s... it's always the player that the impression, not the piano :)
As somone shopping for Yamaha used pianos, this is very useful information. Thank you!
Thank you, great and enlightening explanation from a professional.
Spade legs will always be stronger. The larger the pedal box, the more stability. So more mass is always better. Look at Mason and Hamlin. Those things are overbuilt but have much greater stability overall. Thanks Russell for this video posting.
Do you have any info about Yamaha building Story and Clark pianos in the '70s and maybe early 80s? I have a Lowrey 5'3 Grand cica 1980. I know Lorey was a stencil brand for Story and Clark. Could it too have been a Yamaha?
Have a chance to buy a 1986 G2 from someone for $4k. What should I be looking out for when I go to play it? Have played 30+ years but never owned a grand.
I like the old look on C2 more than the new look on C2X. In my opinion, Yamaha is going backwards in term of piano exterior design. The new C2X has some similarity with Bosendorfer pianos (for example, the simple leg design). I know that they have acquired Bosendorfer, but it does not mean that they have to copy some features on Bosendorfer's piano and put them to C1X, C2X, C3X, or whatever new product line they have.
The C2X is heavily based off of the CFX. I don't think it has to do with Bosendorfer but more Yamaha's changes to "modernize" the look of their pianos.
@@benjaminsmith2287 also to japanize the look, I personally prefer the newer because it's not a bad copy of the sheraton style
@@hansroemerszoonvanderbrikk7626 I do as well.
6:59 WHACK!
Seriously, though, thank you for this video. It answers some of the questions I've had about Yamaha pianos and it supports the general assumption that they are one of the most uniform piano manufacturers.
Another great and informative video! Thank you!
That C2X has an extra cross-brace in the plate, across the bass strings. I need to ask something about that. I'm presently looking at a piano that's advertised as a 1970 model Yamaha G2. Made in Japan most likely (I live in South Africa). This 1970 model (or so it is alleged) has that cross brace... I don't see that in any of your videos, it seems it only shows up some time after 1987. Is this perhaps specific to the US-made ones?
I'm still waiting for the seller to send me the serial number, then I will know for sure what year it is.
Big thank
Thank you for your informative video!
Thanks for the useful info !
the 2008 has 4 holes in the frame . others have 3 .Why?
10:15 on the ~2000 model I call that “cul de sac pedals”
By the way, why is the metal frame of the C2 a different color (reddish) than the G2 (golden) ?
Different color paint from the mid 1990's they went from gold to copper, we can refinish the gold plate in the new copper color if the piano is ordered that way.
Host must have a NYC typical Accent.