How hard is it to register a garage built supercar?
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2019
- Eric McClellan ( / gearheaddaily ) gave himself a year to build an SLC from the ground up. When he was done, the big hurdle was getting it titled and registered for street use. It was quite an adventure.
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Whoever approved your car to be street legal, I approve him
Haha yes
And I approve your comment
He sound's dangerous AF. Someone might die because some car without brakes got passed with 0 checks.
@@Thomas-cu5hp Perhaps...but I would argue that MORE people die from drunk driving than they die from people who were WHISKED through the street legalization process.
Gotta pick and choose your battles bro.
That guy sounds like an awesome hot rodder who only wants to help out a guy who BUILT a gatdam racecar in his garage.
Thomas 16.04 I don’t think the dudes just passing people left and right he could see that this guy knew what he was doing and was serious about it getting registered probably figured it’s good enough
The guy at DMV who helped this guy out is a man we all need to protect at all cost.
"OH you're the guy with that weird race car thing that came in" 😂
Excellent, I'm so happy to see this car be allowed to run free. They say free-range supercars are much healthier for you then ones confined to a track.
BrianScott2133 quality comment. Take my like lol
🤣🤣🤣
BrianScott2133 good comment brotha, it's nice to see an intelligent comment/joke then typical RUclips ignorant babel! :)
@@Gonzo.S.Thompson That is quite simply one of the most well-though of, best comment I have ever read about cars in my entire life! 🥺
I worked at Superlite Cars for about a year and a half. I've seen some go upwards of $200k. Was a beautiful car.
One just sold this weekend at Barrett Jackson for $90K sounded like a good deal
@@anonony9081 Yeah. I think you can get a base-model turn-key from RCR for like $80k-ish.
Yeah but the ones with build costs that high are all extremely well done and usually alot not rocking base motors and have fancier transmission set ups like the Ricardo. And essentially compete with cars like McLarens and such.
I know for my build plan when I get around to it I'll probably eventually get up to that 200k plus mark. But I'm also gonna eventually get a full carbon body panel kit. I'm likely re gearing the Graziano trans axle. If there's room I'm probably going to be sticking a straight 6 in the engine bay. If not than potentially something like the vw wr12 or a Toyota 1uz type engine balanced for high revs. Along with twin charging the engine.
Along with a bunch of other really trick stuff. And having the interior done up to an oem level of finish. And adding traction and launch control. If I can figure it out maybe abs as well. Need to speak with Fran in the future. Really want the dct transmission set up as it means I can drive the car faster given my physical disabilities in my left arm plus talk about power steering. I know there's some issues with power steering due to an oem steering column no longer being made.
Also the whole if I can find a wrecked gtr r35 car with a running drive train I wanna see if it'd be possible to salvage it for an slc. The r35 gtr uses a rear mounted transaxle with a front mounted engine for weight distribution. If you harvest most of the drive train but drop attesa it might be possible to use its bits with a rwd only set up and save money on getting a nicely geared transmission with an engine that matches perfectly while getting a dct transmission.
Also need to see about the electric builds. Newer batteries should be coming soon. Might be able to use a rich friend to get access to the new updated p1 batteries. New motors are coming. And diy batteries are getting better. Might be able to make a hybrid awd slc. Building mine as a road car but with some vintage meets modern in the concept of the build. Road legal race car like an f1. Raw and visceral but with enough tech to keep it on the road safely and able to be pushed to its limit. Something I could take and run endurance races with but also hillclimbs and other shit. Not exactly dialed for anything in particular just over all performance.
Gearing it for a top speed that's around 310mph. Tryna set a Texas mile record lol. But with the gear spacing and ratios set up to work nicely with the engines rpm band and how it makes power. Probably gonna end up like an 05/06 Ford gt and hit 60+ in first gear if you wind it out, but geared so for fastest acceleration you don't shift to second till after 60.
Even if I go with the heavy vw engine for the exotic bit. The extra weight is a decent bit and even having to add extra weight to counter the off set in balance it should still easily be sub 3000 pounds and I really shouldn't need more than about 600 to 1000hp for a high boost setting. If I can get the I6 to work I save a decent bit of weight. 1uz I get crazy revving and shouldn't throw off the balance too much.
Worst case throw a 4 cylinder Honda in the thing or go with that company that makes V8s from custom blocks using 2 Honda heads. Vtec v8 would fit the slc pretty well and should be easy to get hp out of and rev stupid high like Hondas with vtec do.
Even at 200 to 250k even 300k. I mean. That's what certain basically stock special specs of an r34 would cost you. Or some stock mclarens and ferraris.
By that point the slc is a monster with a done interior and fairly high levels of oem type integration. Sometimes even nicer than oem. It's a little tricky cause they are kit cars but its the same as a resto mod in alot of ways. Especially the really custom restomods. With the right aftermarket ecus and other shit and correct choices and placement for the interior you can make it look very oem or better.
Dudes have figured out aftermarket seats that fit in the slc. Including ones that have heating and stuff. Getting it redone while an added expense means you can match it to anything.
If you go through the whole process you can even use stock ecus for engines. Dude has a chevy pedal hooked up to the BMW v10 swapped slc. Pretty sure same for the merc v10 swapped slc..
But like 60k kit cost. 10k for the Graziano think it was like 10k rebuild with new gears. Rven if you drop 30 or 40k on say a 3 rotor. 20k on forced induction. 20k interior. 10k ecu and other bits. Couple grand on fuse relay solid state switch boxes that reduce weight and make wiring easier and help with diagnostics. 10k in paint. Maybe 10k to 20k in tuning and programming.
You've got a car like 1000 pounds less than average suoer cars. Even heavy it's like 300 to 800 pounds lighter than light examples. Makes similar power to weight. Geared however you want. Your power plant choice.
You gotta keep comparisons apples to apples as much as possible. Slc is like a built car from the get go.
Your Cadillac converters didn't seem to work. It still looks like a kit car, not an Escalade.
I hate how you can never really tell if someone is joking online (even with outrageous idiocy) without just assuming!
glad im not the only one to catch that lol
xD
I thought I was the only that heard that....
@@Renwoxing13 you really can't tell that's a joke?
"It's adorale let's keep it *inhale* so I put it up for sale the next day"
I wondered if anyone else caught that lol.
@@rcairforceone yeah for real. did he mispeak? or did he sell the car his wife loved?
I literally sold the car she liked. She absolutely hated the viper
@@GearheadDaily I have to ask, how badly did your wife make you pay for that?
Thankfully not too bad. She understood, but really hated the Viper. She likes the R8 we had and tolerates the corvette now hahah.
Such an inspirational story... now I really want to build one!
Or you can just nab one.
C'mon! You're the FBI! How hard is it to get one for free?
@@monks311 harder than one might think
@@superlameusername362 shhh
I've been looking at the GT-R from superlite I kinda like it a little better than the SLC mostly because of the extra cabin space.
Great story Eric. Thanks for shedding some light on how that process works. Of course, it is tough to imagine a DMV working any differently than what you experienced here.
Thanks for having me Ed!
I'm a huge fan Ed! I wish one day I could meet you.
Ed Bolian please MN is the easiest state to DMV with in my experience but they are crab asses most the time. When are you putting a shop in my friend? Minnetonka has expensive taste btw.
I'd love a shop catering to Minnetonka people LOL
Gearhead Daily business opportunities???
For once I’m happy to live in Minnesota
*Looks outside*
I'd take that over Canada right now. Lol.
Pretty frigid next door in WI too.
No better place in the short summer we have!
@@ErikGenerik76 We have a summer? I have to keep a hoodie in my trunk 365 a year up here!
Try living in New York, snow and emissions
The guy who built mine finished it then mo said they needed the title from the motor. So he had to buy a car from the junkyard swap the engine just to pass it then put the old motor back in.
Be careful about bringing your kit cars to Texas. I had an out of state issued title to an Ariel Atom. Registered & re-registered in Texas for 4 years without incident. On the 5th year, it was denied renewal and Texas revoked the registration AND title. They put a legal restraint on it so it couldn't be re-titled in another state. The Atom was originally registered in Colorado, transferred to Texas, transferred to Montana, and finally transferred back to Texas when I purchased it. If anybody is considering bringing a kit car to Texas, make sure it's registered to your LLC in Montana!
What did you end up doing?
Sold it to an out of state buyer. They had trouble registering it due to the legal restraint Texas had on the title. Buyer had to get a court order that compelled his state's DMV to issue a title since he had a legal BOS and is the rightful owner.
napalmdotnet
Texas is a state of patriotism as much as it is a state full of rights and money stealing scumbags.
To hear that Texas is the "wild, wild west " is bullshit !!!..I live here, Its just a sorry sub for California, except w/ cowboys hats and boots.....
@@ToyManFlyer1100 it's cause Californians are moving there in droves.
I bought a crappy 1965 Mustang which was correctly registered and smog exempt. I kept the 289 V-8 and registration/license plate, then threw away everything else.. I then built a Cobra kit/replica, installed the 289 (which was then a race-302) and hung the Mustang plate on it. The Cobra was, according to the State in which I registered it, only an old Mustang.
What do you register as the vin number for the chassis ? Keep the mustangs and hope the police dont check or ? How do you insure it, or is the insurance an old Mustang also?
BS
I finally found a reason to stay in Minnesota. I'm gonna build my own kit car with string seat belts and drive it around
Make sure it has heat
Oh your the guy who came in from watchin that other guy with the other weird car...
Fifty Shades of Worries, Ft. Eric Grey
I'm getting grey enough that its fitting.
Thank Jesse "The Body" Ventura for getting rid of emissions in MN while he was governor.
I'm thankful for that. I think if i wanted to import something here, it'd be easier than any other state because of that.
MrHondablink truly a man of the people
I mean you can just slip the inspection place a 20
How do you wake up one day and just say “I’m going to build a kit car/race car from scratch” and then just do it and it’s comes out looking so good, incredible!
Fellow Minnesotan here...you just alleviated a huge concern I had about building a custom kit car. Thank you!
Eric: _Builds Supercar from scratch_
Also Eric: *_"Cadillac Converter"_*
Yeah RIP freaking misinfo
I had some music on low while watching, but that's what I thought I heard!
If you guys could put together a podcast, I would totally listen to it. These stories are perfect to listen to and I’d love longer versions.
6:20 .....wait
If you crash and *die* , how are you going to sue the state?
Yes
That's America for ya
probably your family / loved ones doing the suing
Sue from beyond the Grave🤣🤣 don't worry I noticed too😂
Aside from The Mr. Ed Bolian himself, Eric rounds out my top 3 VINWiki guests. Rabbit is certainly the 3rd member of my top 3 but I refuse to put them in any order. Ed will always be my no-homo-car-guy-with-an-education man crush. Rabbit and Eric can race for #2 spot. LOL
D'awww thanks! Haha
Having a wife help you build your car is absolutely awesome
Oregon has a similar way of doing it except it’s all done at the dmv, so if you bring in all the paperwork you can register and title it all in one day, the website is actually pretty good so it has a page for custom & antique cars and what forms you need.
The man with the beard provided a fascinating story. Those SLCs are quite a bang for the buck if you're handy with the wrenches.
Happy to be hearing car stories from Minnesota!
I'm not the happiest that it's so difficult to find a clean 240z here that wont break the bank, though.
I had to have an inspection done by the DMV & state police after rebuilding my truck after the insurance totaled it due to a flood and I sucked up a bunch of water. Blew the engine and they totaled it. Ended up getting back 90% of what I paid for it 10 years prior.
Shrewd negotiator, indeed!
So after replacing the engine, I had to take all of the same stuff to the DMV plus something from work showing we installed it professionally and it was a sound repair. They gave me a little grief about something I can't recall and I ended up coming back the next day.
Get to the state police with all of my paperwork and they look at the vin, pop the hood and look at the engine for 10 secs max and we went back in. Done in about 5 minutes. Couldn't have been easier. Ended up rebuilding the front end with the money left over from the buyback and replacing the engine + paying 2 guys at work to do it on a Saturday.
I made out like a bandit on that deal.
Dosent matter what Story you see on VINwiki, they are all very Entertaining.
Thank you for that.
I go back and forth on thinking these are really cool. The "kit car" classification is a downer but man, they look cool and seem to be great performance cars.
Technically it's a component car if that makes you feel any better. :)
If it makes you feel better...Ev'ry car, trk, SUV is a "kit car".....Just main components added and bolted and welded together......Very few people actually sit down w/ a English roller, hammer , dolley, bench milling machine, grinder, welder, and such and bust out they own car from metal, carbon fiber, plastic and fibreglass...
This is the 2nd time I've heard someone say "Give it the beans" is that a funny way of saying Giving it some gas. Because beans give you gas?
Its a saying. Who knows why people started saying it but that could be what it means 😄
I had a sorta similar experience titling my vw powered sand rail next door in SD, but it was even more relaxed. Didn't need any receipts, mso, or vin. In fact the inspector ended up taping the vin tag to the fuel tank with packing tape.
This is my absolute favorite RUclips channel.
Eric - Good job on handling it man! MN is a paperwork state! Im building 10'mini jet boats and have a bunch of stuff to deal with MN DNR.
Thanks for sharing man!!
Really enjoying the stories from Eric, interesting for sure and the guy who approved the car to be safe is bloody awesome haha
3 yrs from post date and omg that thing is awesome 👏 I want to build one
Eric is one of my favorite Vinwiki storyteller. Ed is still my number 1.
Yep, In Australia (south Australia at least) the vehicle must be approved by an engineer for any large mods (I’m currently doing engine swap, brakes, suspensions and loads of custom work). The engineer can choose to have the brake tested and you have to pay for track hire of certain tests. Then it must be inspected and then a full going over by the appropriate people.
This guy has got to be one on the greatest story tellers
I was a little bit worry because I was going to embark a custom kit car myself and wanted to register in my state California. Seeing your video it's a brighter side now.
South dakota also has pretty relaxed titling so it's pretty easy here
"ABOUT YAY BIG"!!!!
I love this guy
Wish I had the mechanical skill to build a supercar 😂
i wish i was able to build anything
I think they come with a manual to build it. Basically a hard asf lego kit
That's the beauty of this car its a adult Lego kit for a super car takes very little skills to build it
But first you've gotta get the full size Lincoln Log garage kit
Nothing you can't learn on SkillShare
Thank you so much for making this video
I've met the dude who built #238! I love it
We just took pictures of the m a s chassis T- bucket we built throughout the build. Mn DMV gave us a blue vin no prob!
"If you crash and you die, you can sue the state" yeah, I don't think it'll work tho.....
*God suddenly walks into DMV* "I'm gonna need to see your supervisor..."
Your experience is exactly correct. They only care about mco and proof of purchase on the parts. That said we built a 32 Ford kit car and I did not have a mco and still got it registered
This guy is awesome at telling stories!!
One of these just sold at Barrett Jackson for $90,000
That seems right, especially if it's already registered. 70k for 600 hours and 65k worth of parts is insane.
ThiccLorax selling price all depends on how well it was built and what parts were used.
One got sold here this week in Australia. Was listed at $135k, fully complied and registered
Did they tell you, "We don't accept payment in money but give me all the bacon and eggs you have"
there's the Ron Swanson reference!
I found you on vinwiki, I have to go back and look at this car it looks amazing
Same way in Indiana. Growing up, my dad was big in the hot rod scene. He and his friends always were building, trading, building, trading and having no issues. My dad just home build a motorhome on a 1960's chassis, with a 2010 transmission and engine he rebuilt out of an old work truck. Not one issue getting a title and antique plates.
Thanks to Ed, I was able to shrewdly negotiate the trade in value of my car. Of course it's not that difficult when you're only asking for NADA rounded up to begin with.
6:15 is a perfect Ron Swanson moment.
Such a great story teller 👍
I’ve watched this video a few times. Love this story.
*Montana LLCs moving to Minnesota as we speak*
wife: i love it honey lets keep it please please please!!!
husband: sells it 24hrs later.
Ive... absolutely.. never, given a half a fuck about what my wife likes.. when I buy a car.
I buy it.. cause I want it.
Dont like it... good. I didnt buy it for you.
Cant stand it... good.
But I sure.. as all fuck.. am not going to buy.. or sell.. involving cars for benefit.. that my wife approves of.
@@SlidTossedPissed Looking for a divorce
@@afoxwithahat7846
Actually... I dont give a care.
When I began dating her, I applied my same pathology to wanting to know more about her. When I found out, she was a decent human being.. and in my own way.. I appreciated her.
I also gave her a 400pg copy of my neuroscience / psychology evaluation.. and she understood FLATLY that some days. I truely am out of my mind. Others... IM FAR OUT. I dont b.s, Take it or leave it.
The woodworking I do -- causes a big god damn mess. She doesnt like it -- oh well.
My car.. she doesnt like it cause its not boring. -- Oh well.
My beard is long and scraggly. Doesnt like it, oh well.
Whatever I like, do, appreciate / enjoy.. she doesnt like it cause its either too obscure or its not communal.
Thats not going to change.. a damn thing.
I recently took the wheel of her "EGG" on the drive home to my Cave. She complained that I didnt need to go 85. I retorted, I could go 115 if youd like. Ive already handled her "EGG" at 120mph along with numerous other low totem pole vehicles. She didnt feel safe.. going 85.
Then I retorted...
You / We bought this damn thing "EGG". Its got a 3.5ltr 6cyl, yanking around 4200lbs. You got the "power" USE IT!!
Im not scared, I dont need permission and I really dont give a damn.
Living by and doing what my wife likes and wants... is like having two Corollas in the same house. --- Thats fucking awful!
@@SlidTossedPissed ok
@@SlidTossedPissed whoever's. You Sound like a terrible person
Wow! Great story. Thanks.
Ha! I just saw the other SLC video "...build a supercar in...garage" . Nice continuation for me!
Thanks Eric. I didnt know that you are in MN. Very cool. I am 2 blocks from Cant Park.
I'm just north of st paul
Bloomington here
Brooklyn Park here
Roseville!
Very cool to see other car guys here. Probably seen most of yous at C&C in the past. Wish i had a vehicle worth showing.
9:35 *Wife:* "I love it! Its Adorable! Lets keep it and sell the Viper!" 9:40 *Husband:* "So the next day I put the Porche up for sale"
What...A...Dick lol
Being from Minnesota it makes me oddly happy to see a home built super car with a minnesota plate. Just feels weird but satisfying. Also im happy to see a story teller from Minnesota.
Kit car guys always have the best stories.
My plan is to build a SL-C or an Ultima RS once I buy my own house. I'm planning to spend good money on sound deadening but haven't been able to find good info on which platform is better is terms of sound deadening potential. So far I'm leaning towards the RS because the car looks straight beautiful.
oh my god this car should be in production it is such an absolute beauty 😍😍😍 you honestly did an awesome job man !! god damn i would love to drive it one day, that car is so cool and beautiful.
I’m in MN TOO!!! Se Mn used to live in Rochester but moved to plainview a few years ago!
Really dig this car. Good work!
My vinwiki car story; I traded a mustang hot wheel for a Bugatti Veyron. True story.
Had similar issues in Canada when importing/registering a japanese car since they don't have VIN's and use Chassis numbers (Which IMO is alot better system I think)
Place was completely clueless what to do without a vin, ended up convincing them that chassis number is viable after they called numerous high ups
same issue here in MN actually, because if the VIN isn't 13 digits long, their system refuses to accept it, and you have to actually mail in stuff and go present the vehicle to the main DMV office in St Paul so they can verify whatever number you are using and where it is.
Awesome story! Very cool.
Great story. Thanks
I lived in Florida for many many many years and how many different cars and have yet to hide taken any of those vehicle for inspection and I've never had an issue with that 😅
There's red SLC like this in my town
Seen this at street machine nationals at the minnesota fairgrounds so cool so well done
Minnesota is super laid back with cars/vehicles
1st climb up the mountain is always the hardest...
The Ferrari Jordan’s he has on are 🔥🔥🔥
Glad you mentioned the MN website. I'm finding the same thing that there aren't any really good information about registration of a custom vehicle
That's why I love alabama. Vin it to your motor and aslong ad you have road tires, mirrors and lights you got a tag
I really hate that I need “Cadillac converters”🤣😂
Cadillac is a car manufacturer.
The component is a "catalytic convertor".
@@ArashiOdayakana r/WHOOSH
God bless our lovely little state
REPRESENT!
I am from Minnesota Minneapolis wow a person from vinwiki has been here
As someone who has been gathering parts for a Lotus 7 clone in Minnesota I'm really relieved to hear how easy it was for you to register that beast. 😁
It was very easy.
That's nothing compared to what I went through. Took 8 months, calls to Govorners, heads of State Troopers, news broadcasters....it was ridiculous.
One thing about the UK is that you can make pretty much anything road legal. You can make anything road legal if you really wanted to
MrcabooseVG please elaborate
@@clcampbell85 LOL
6:40
That laugh is every car guy/gear head laugh when you've had that "eureka" moment. 💡
That thing is nuts!
Here in Florida we have wierd news headlines and alot of people come to retire but we dont have vehicle emissions. Woohoo!!
wow yeah yeah
I'm a licensed technician, have built a few cars. No issues getting them registered here in Canada.
I am thinking about an SLC build and am looking for info/advice. Any information is welcome as long as it has to do with the SLC. Eric McClellan you have some great insight and experience. If you could message or contact me that would be great.
Thanks
Came early to get my comment above MaxSpeed’s before his like bot kicks in
Too late. He’s already in the double digits with the dumbest comment of the day.
Lol well go also look at his channel he has good content
@@guthannight 😂
@@edwinwx260 what i'm subbed to him and like his content
More stories about the SLC. These are really interesting.
I m now almost 23 years old. I already in body work industry since primary school. Hopefully I can make my own kit car soon. Just need to work myself in learning the engine part now. Slowly but surely and go with the flow step by step learning. 😀
My dad was a professional drag Racer, rally and 4x4 using his own kit cars over 30 years now. I hope I can beat him in the future. 😎
Yeah dude you had a free motor so when you woud built it yourself then you can ad another 20/30 grand or even more
Fam tf kind of engines you looking at lol
Christopher cook..... look up a zero mile crate motor from a Vette and add the cost of a transaxle (most likely Graziano. I’ll save you time $9k alone for the transaxle.)
That car on what MN calls “roads,” coupled with the everlasting winter and road construction, it might as well be a weekend track car. Sorry not sorry.
Cool to see a guy from Minnesota on here we get forgotten about
1:02 that brake test on that special machine is part of your yearly re inspection of your vehicle in Europe
Anything with 4 tires and a steering wheel is street legal in FL...
Anything with more than one tire..
Same way in Kentucky. Long as it's insured, it's legit