Everything WRONG with a WARN 8274 - Step by Step HIGH MOUNT WINCH REBUILD GUIDE!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- A very popular modification to your 4WD if you're into the tough stuff is a high mount winch! The most popular choice for a platform to work from is a Warn 8274! But there are a LOT of modifications you need to do to them in order to make them STRONG & RELIABLE. Walk with me through this 8274 High Mount build & learn what's involved & how to do it yourself at home!
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Excellent work Tim. Probably one of the best 8274 build videos I’ve seen. Your “stage 2” setup would probably suit 90 percent of offtoaders. Really enjoying your content, keep it up.
Thanks heaps mate, it’s just infinite what you can do to them so I felt I should break it down, glad it was noticed and appreciated thank you 🙏🏻
This is bloody awesome as I really want a high mount on my new build love it keep up good work
Heck yeah if you can sort one then do it!
Awesome content Tim! Just wondering if you would be able provide a list of parts you used for the “stage 2” kit?
Ahhh yeah I can list them off here:
- Brake service kit
- Bottom drum service kit
- Gigglepin OR WinchGear brakeshaft upgrade kit
- WinchGear OR Ballzy Bits freespool delete
- Whichever motor you want out of Warn 6hp or RR Bullet
- Bus bar kit to suit whatever motor you got.
- DC88 Solenoid
- Drum Brace
Hopefully I haven’t forgotten anything
@@timmyhasheart thanks mate. Appreciate it!
Those cam gears you said are hard to get? I could probably machine some up for you if you ever needed or repair old ones. I live in Carrick so not too far away.
Once again, great content
You legend, cheers mate!! Na sorry so what I meant is you can buy the upgraded Brakeshaft WITH a NEW large cam gear usually so you don’t have to try get the old one off but that package is out of stock Australia wide so you can only buy the one WITHOUT a large cam gear included, therefore having to get the old one off and in some cases destroying it in the process, like this time, but I remembered I had Tyler’s laying around cause he COULD get one with the large cam gear included earlier in the year so didn’t need his old one, and his wasn’t seized so yeah sorry it was a lot to explain in the vid haha.
But if you’re a machinist you’ll have to hit me up on Insta I have a few jobs for you haha 😂
ripper show enjoyed but gotta say i couldn't stop seeing the ugly drum lol ocd much
Hahaha na that’s fair enough, but I wasn’t gonna paint it with pressure pack it’ll just come off on the rope 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Better then new Tim, top job
Thanks heaps mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻
awesome rebuild Tim, built to last and do the job
Absolutely mate thank you! Cheers for watching and commenting!
Keep it simple I reckon. Red winch, yes lots of features new, but spendy and as you say, parts are harder to get, eg motors etc. I use a STD high mount, original motor and it suits the shorty fine. Don't need rocket speed anyway, as you still have to wait for the slowest car/winch set up. Runva on 24v is impressive and very cost effective.
Yeah you have a lot of good points and as I say, I’m 50/50, I have a red winch coming and I also have a built warn so when the time comes I’ll be able to say which I like better.
However when I go up to Victoria with the race boys I’LL be the slowest haha, even with my single more red winch at 24v. Thanks for the comment mate appreciate it 👍🏻
beanies looking hot at 6:25 haha, mint vid mate
Haha dem fed up head grabs and face palms had be scattered boy 💀💀
Great video
Thanks mate, thanks for checking it out 🙏🏻
I’m in the States and have never seen one of the monsters you guys build. Dying of curiosity about the air spool, and 2 speeds!? Wtaf!? You guys are nuts!
Hahaha gotta have a good winch mate!!
VICE GRIP TAPPING FTW
Oaf mate, I’m all about using things to use things aye
Saw a dude use magnets on the flats of the pawl on the center brake piece to hold the bearings in place without grease. Less contamination for the brakes.
Not a bad idea, although tbh those brake pads are gonna cop plenty of crap in headlight deep bogholes haha
i love the sound of a highmount, hearing the high rpm and then getting hit with load and the ratchet brake is great. BUT i just dont see what attracts people with the warn. They are expensive new and expensive 2nd hand even in trash condition people want top $. Understand they can be fully rebuilt and such but its another cost on buying a 2nd hand one as most all need to be rebuilt.
I guess it is a way to get into highmounts without spending the $ that redwinch or gigglepin want. But are they really worth the extra $ compared say just buying the new runva highmount or just a decent low mount? Not to mention the $ needed for power requirments, how many amps the 12v pull?
I’m sort of 50/50 to be honest I have a red winch on order for my own car, which was $5000, and the winch in this video was $1000 for the core and then we spent about $1800 getting it to where it is in the video. To add air free is another $1000 so you’re pretty quickly at $4800. But I don’t think a brand new red winch is any better than having what we’ve built here, they’re both brand new to me. The perk for a red winch is a warranty, which is gonna be difficult to claim if you’re overvolting anyway, another perk is they run on grease and are very simple and have air brake and air free out the box, but a con is they’re not as easily changeable.. like I could get the red winch into the flats and it stalls cause I didn’t get the right gearing and then have to wind up double lining all all the nasty stuff and lose all the speed I’ve been working toward gaining - another con is you can’t listen to the ratchet to gauge load/if it’s stalling.. another con is the air brake, if you have total air failure you’ve lost your winch because the brake is permanently on without air. But if it were a warn then there are 1000 solutions, you could build it to a GP100 for twice the torque, you could go a twin speed, you could change the gearing all with just a few swings of a spanner. And with total air failure all you lose is your free spool and/or second gear. No matter what you do I think it’s a big investment and down to user preference for sure.
12 or 24 they both draw the same amps, anywhere from 300-400amp I think. It’s just at 12v your 300a is 3600w and at 24v your 300a is 7200w.
But yeah it’s the same with a lot of things.. people want stupid money for the names they hear it’s just how it is. Cheers for the comment dude 👍🏻
Can’t maff, it’s actually $3800 not $4800 🤦🏻♂️😂
"Hey which bin goes out tonight?"
"The grey one"
*They're all grey.
Hahahaha I rate it 😅😅
Just curious mate, how'd you get the drum off? Is it fairly easy? I've been fighting the brake assembly but you give me hope. Thanks for the great video!
You have to take the top hat off then slip the drum card up and it’ll release the drum. The old seized brakes can be a whole night job if they have never been apart. Heat, puller, hammer, and time 🙏🏻
@@timmyhasheart ok cool! I saw you doing something inside there whilst pulling the drum outwards, I just couldn't tell what you were doing. Thanks!!
Don’t forget, just the tip. You do not want to waller out your bung hole.
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I have so many questions. I just bought a truck 1979 ford f150 and it has a warn wench. It works but the cables are all garbage and I can't seem to find much info. How man I contact you and get help?
Always happy to help on Instagram mate!
Hi dude, do you mind to share the link for the bus bar set?
It depends what motor you have on your winch mate, go to Road Runner Offroad & if you have a Bullet motor search Bullet Bus Bar, if you have a Warn 6HP search Warn Bus Bar. If they have none in stock you might be able to get them from High Mount Guy.
What is the purpose of deleting the free spool?
I haven’t yet come across an 8274 free spool that actually works and I’ve built about 5 or 6 of them. And it’s a flimsy little fork that holds the armature gear in mesh, they’re known for popping out and leaving you plummeting back down a hill. So if it doesn’t work & is dangerous then I personally get rid of it, and then I put air free spool in if you want free spool which pulls like butter, so much better 👍🏻👍🏻 thanks for watching mate
Where did you get the brace bar kit from?
Ahh either road runner or high mount guy mate, both online stores!
If changing the drum always get end cap brace kit
Come to vic do a drive with Daniel kistler
It’s in the works sonny Jim!!
good rebuild video.
but in just under 40 years usage. at times very severe usage. my 8374, has never let me down.
only thing is the free-spool pull, it likes to rust up.
interesting use of buss bars. custom deal? or a off the shelf thing?
i have stuck to custom built cables using welding cable and pure copper lugs, hyd crimped.
i have heard about duel motors. but never seen the need. but then i run duel batteries on my jeep. stock sized alt.
Na bus bars are pretty common these days for them, most big fast winches come factory with bus bars now. And yeah twin motors are common, cars are heavier these days, and a lot of people are running 24v and really fast gearing.
Gidday, really good vid with heaps of info, cheers....I ve just brought one of these winches. 1979 model its in pretty good condition but im still going to put a seal, and brake rebuild kit in it. Just curious what motors you've found work best? I ve got a road runner 6.8 that ill put on. But also contemplating the warn 9.5xp 6hp or going all out with an ox motor. Thanks.
Oh look dude it’s entirely up to you, what I’ve learned is road runner is quite slow but great for durability, OX for RPM & warn for good RPM and torque.
Wear black nitrile gloves man. Save your hands
Haha yeah, I do have some I just always forget and they tear anyway 🤣🤷🏻♂️
Hahah get some Raven brand ones man, last ages
Haha yeah righto I’ll have to keep a eye out for them 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I run the Runva EWX9500-Q 24v and at 80:1 gear ratio it eats up standard warn high mounts for breakfast
Nice! Expensive breakfast my warn just takes 140w.
Fb marketplace ones cost a couple thousand(even the rubbish/broken ones) the ones I’ve seen
Yeah tbh I paid $1000 mine was pretty medium condition, this one was $1000 too and again, pretty medium condition.
Most things okay but a couple of things seized.
Hmmm big problem… how will you know which bin to use now? Nice refurb though, not looking so Warn out now! Do I get a signed book now?
Hahahaha I’ll paint them back the right colour
I've learnt some good tips mate. I'm surprise how many parts are involve to complete a working winch. Love your simply of explaining the proprocess.,
Thanks so much, I’m glad it was helpful, they really are quite simple a few watches of this and I’m certain just about anyone could do it following along 🙏🏻
Nice job mate. Just curious. Is there anything you can't repair or rebuild?? 😁
Haha appreciate the compliment mate, but to be fair I just learned from fiddling, it’s all just shapes that fit other shapes at the end of the day anyone can get in and have a go 👍🏻
if you can could you do a break down of how every part works
as the piece you drilled the 3 mm holes im unsure what that is for?
thanks in advance
I believe it’s for both brake shaft end float, so it only sits in one particular spot. But also those brass bushes have a habit of beginning to spin with the brake shaft and it retains it from falling into the housing and into the gears. That’s my understanding thanks for the comment mate!
Gigglepin brake shaft?
I've had one missing the circlip and a mates one did too lel
Yeah dude! Sh*** you not I’ve bought a kit and it had the actual aluminium retainer that you tap missing when I built mine.. same kit from the same company.. smh… 😅
Love following your journey mate levi from Nz.exploring 👌
Thanks so much for engaging mate appreciate you watching and following along 👊🏻
No music next time….
Appreciate the suggestion mate but I love chucking music in my videos 🤙🏻🤙🏻
It was looking real professional until the vice grip tap wrench haha. Good video bro, keep it up 👍🏼
Haha thanks dude!! Well I’ll go double or nothing and tell you the reason I use vice grips is because it isn’t square enough to fit in a tap wrench anymore because one day when I forgot my tap wrench I welded a piece of rio to the end of it ;)
Hope that makes you feel better 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@timmyhasheart that's awesome, I love stuff like that haha.
Great one again Tim, looking forward to seeing your Red winch. Been following these for a while.
I’m looking forward to seeing it too, been about 9 weeks wait so far 😂 thanks mate
Bit in it “ be cool to get a tool sponsor, press & a blast cabinet would be useful 🤠
Yeah I have a shop press but it’s behind a built TD42 on an engine stand that I can never be bother moving ;) but yeah a blaster would have been bloody unreaaaaal!!
Great video Tim! Have you seen many standard brake shafts fail?
I haven’t been around too many high mounts mate I’m quite green and 40% of my knowledge comes from people who know more than me, but I’ve seen 1 fail. I built a winch for my best mate and we just did a “stage one” to get it going, that had the stock brake and without the circlip retention the only other thing holding it in is that steel card with the dimples and so if that slips, then you get what happened to him which was the whole brake fell out the side of the winch then it’s game over, and that was up at the cape in palm creek, not ideal 👌🏻
@@timmyhasheart no, not what you want. I had that happen on my winch truck, I actually drilled and taped the house and put screws into that card to fix the problem.
Nice job Tim, way outta my wheelhouse but very interesting none the less. Cheers.
Awesome mate cheers, tbh it’s a fair bit out of mine too as a qualified baker and an IT manager hahaha.
@@timmyhasheart Quite the diverse background Bro, interesting. Have a great weekend.
Great ep. Great detail. Can I ask cost???
Yeah I think Jonesy paid $1000 for the core, $1800 on parts or there abouts 🙏🏻
How come NPT and not bspt plug?
For someone of my mechanical calibre, they’re exactly the same thing. 😅
They’re only 1/19 pitch difference, I pretty much use them interchangeably, except if I’m going into the engine block then it’s always BSPT.
@@timmyhashearttrue, as an old school fitter and Turner apart from pitch there is not much difference fair enough, 5 degrees of thread angle difference apart from pitch between metric and imperial usually. I only have bspt and bspp and thought npt fittings would be hard to get 👍
Trash can paint booths are world wide.
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Sick edit 🤟👍
Thanks heaps mate! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
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Thanks for watching and commenting mate 🙏🏻
*promo sm*
Not sure what you mean sorry 😇
...everything wrong? Too expensive and not enough ratio i reckon
Tbh I find them on the cheap end of winches 🤷🏻♂️ red winches $7000+, GP $9000+, but you can pickup a warn for $1000 and spend $2000 on it for a pretty good base. 👍🏻 then have whatever ratio you want.
very interesting! well its gonna save you money in the long run to get you out of the bog hole faster ! 🛻📹🤙😎
Haha exactly right mate cheers for watching 🙏🏻