I have watched NCFOM many times, it is one of my all time favourite movies. This analysis does it justice and bring many new insights to it. Well done Eric, as a newbie I am loving your channel.
Absolutely love the analysis. It’s spot on, you’ve said everything that needed to be said on the theme and meaning of the film. HOWEVER, how is it possible that you know this story so well, and yet you can’t pronounce Llewelyn and Anton?!
@@FallopiumFilms 11:14 You missed very crucial detail here. You said coin 🪙 represents Anton. But Anton insists that shopkeeper consider the coin to be special even though shopkeeper doesn't know why. Just as Anton subconsciously considers himself to be special (from the point of Universe) even though he doesn't know why. Very important detail.
In the scene where Anton’s car is hit by another car, he doesn’t seem shocked that something like that could happen to him. He accepts it completely as his fate. He doesn’t even look to see who is in the other car after the crash because it doesn’t matter who drove the car or why the crash happened. It simply happened. I think this scene shows the depth to which Anton believes in fatalism, not just when he is empowered by it, but even when he is at its mercy.
What would happen if the money was left by the dead mexican in the desert? What if Chigurh got the money instead of Lewen? the movie is over. All he had to do was leave the money. Greed is what this movie is about.
Understanding this is an analysis of the film, I still wish you had given credit to Cormac McCarthy's book it's based on (especially considering he's one of the best writers of the last century). Almost all of the themes, dialogue & flow of the scenes are lifted directly from the book--you could even argue they used the book itself as the screenplay. Even things like not showing Llewelyn's & Carla Jean's deaths aren't decisions the Coens made, they're directly from the book.
@@FallopiumFilms Like you, I think it's a nearly flawless film. It's not my favorite novel by McCarthy, but it's still good--& a good first novel of his for new readers.
When the Coen Brothers make a film from a book they like they are very faithful to it. That's why they made True Grit, they didn't like the liberties the John Wayne version took with the book.
Good points you make, but that women by the pool didn't distracted him, he refused which lead to his death beacuse he was now in his room where the cartell knew he was otherwise he would have survived. Everytime he does the morally right thing he getts punished, refusing the advances of the women, bringing the halfdead guy from the mexican stand off water.
I think you nailed this. I also believe, personally, that McCarthy was a materialist. I’ve read much of his work and base it on all of that. I used to believe in free will but now realize I will not know which is true while I’m alive. As I say, “Predestination absent memory of the future is indistinguishable from free well.” - J. Martinez
This movie uses a lot of Schrodingers Cat. A paradox where both instances can exist when not being witnessed. This is shown at the end of the film, where the Sheriff is about to open the hotel door, where we see Anton hiding in the room but ultimately is not there when he acknowledges the chance in the situation, draws his gun and "calls it".
I think the car scene speaks to the consequences of being ignorant of each mindset. if you view the world through the lense of determinism only, you will be hit in the face by chance, if you view it through chance/free will, you will be hit by determinism..
In the book she ends up calling it and loses, then Anton kills her. So ultimately from the source material, Anton won completely. The car crash is just a miscalculation of Anton
We know the determinism won. It is suggested by Anton looking at the bottom of his shoes, which he often took off before killing people or made sure the pooling blood don't stain them (after shooting Carson). Also, we know determinism won because in the book Carla Jean finally calls it and calls it wrong. It goes like this: You are asking that I second say the world. Do you see? Yes, she said sobbing, I do. I truly do. Good, he said. That's good. Then he shot her. Couldn't help myself but sharing this, but I get the gist of your essay and I really enjoyed it.
This is hilarious, I came here from your comment on your video on magnolia, you told me to check out your no country video, only to find out I've watched this already ahaha very good vid man you got a sub.
U are preaching volumes as is the movie, the Coens, we can only trust our creators methods. We reap what we have given out. Every foul action or word will return to us. As well as good. Every bullet has an address as we see on the news day after day. When God wants his souls back He gets them back.
I think you are mixing determinism and fatalism on some points and I think he kills her because he looks at his boots after he comes out from the house. In an earlier scene where he kills he looks at his boots after shooting checking whether there's any blood on them
If you want to get specific, yes the terms are different, but for the most part they are used interchangeably. For what Anton represents, I think either will do. And yes, him looking at his boots is the clue to her dying.
@@FallopiumFilms What I try to mean is, If Anton's world view is fatalistic then there would be no difference in whether he calls the coin or the person calls, but in deterministic view there would be a difference as to who calls the coin.
@@FallopiumFilms Great analysis!! You deserve a lot more subscribers. There’s a similar theme of determinism v free will in the movie Forrest Gump…. In the film's closing scene, Forrest Gumps humanity is perfectly encapsulated as he visits Jenny's grave and tries to make sense of his loss, grief, deep love and the way reality and existence works. “I don't know if we have a destiny, or if we're all just floatin' around accidental-like on a breeze, but I think maybe it's both. Maybe both is happenin' at the same time." This concept is mirrored in the film's poignant ending. The image of a feather blowing in the wind wilfully defying gravity by design, whilst randomly being pulled in all directions by the wind, the irreducible and relentless forces of nature. A symbol of the struggle to break free from meaningless determined matter and transcend the corporeal. “If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. ... Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having.” (C.S. Lewis). The movies Blade runner, It’s a wonderful life and to Kill a mocking Bird, including Jayne Eyre and Wuthering Heights would be good film/book reviews also. All the best to you and your family and keep safe ❤️
Thoughts about the crash - it does seem to raise so many questions, of what does it mean as far as fate or chance, especially since we don't see the end of the scene before it. There's plenty of blood and brutality in the movie, so it isn't like they are trying to spare our eyes of the bloodshed, and we do know that it's extremely likely she was killed, because he checks his boots, had promised he would kill her, and kills without visible emotion or regret. Her death or life seems important to the story, but, as you pointed out, the really important part of the scene is the debate between the 2 philosophies, and that is what we are left not knowing to any degree of certainty. You could say it's a 50 50 chance she chose, or he chose, but the debate rages on between us and the universe, as it may with anton after the car crash, but the coen brothers didn't help us any by letting the previous scene play out, because if he chose, we could see the car crash as the consequence of him going against his path, which had before, put him into a sorta bubble of safety within his following it, to a sociopathic level, which could even hint to the fact that he is only who he is, because when he varies from the path the universe threatens his very life. If she chose, we could see that despite everything being checked off, and his philosophy being followed to an absolute degree, he is still a victim of random chance or fate, or perhaps that has survival of the crash shows chance or fate may try and kill you but if you follow your path true you have better odds of survival. Maybe that's what fate really is, it's surviving despite chance being an unforgiving monster, constantly at odds with your survival
@@ross8858 never read the book and had been awhile since last time i watched the movie, but you say the book makes it look like? What, that despite everything, anton is as much as a victim of chance in an uncaring universe? Or, that it seems, it was a smack from the universe for not staying 100 percent on his path?
@@BigSmiley0TV I think that he was as much a victim of chance as anyone else, since in the book, he definitely wins during that conversation. Clara Jean makes the same argument, but Chigurh explains his philosophy more in depth, asks her if she understands, and when she says yes, he kills her (previous to this she caved and called heads on the coin, hence losing the bet). This abruptly cuts to his getting into the car crash.
There is no free will, scientifically life is determestic sprinkled with randomness. But we have to live as if free will exist. What is true and what works is two different thing.
The meaning is greed. Love of money over all else. Stupidity. Free will to abandon the money. Walk away. Let Chigurh have the money and the movie is over the plot doesn't exist.
@@FallopiumFilms But that's what it comes down to. If he would have just walked away Chigurh would have got the money returned it to the gangsters and everyone else would have been safe. Psychopaths are just psychopaths. The nature if him is his psychopathy and it was pretty random. He likes to play with people and flip a coin for their fate this is just the writer creating content for the movie to make it more interesting. Human nature is greed and stupidity. Just walk away from the money and there is no movie. It's just a movie after all.
“Antoine & Lewin” yeah, this video is null and void lml Just how the hell can you completely & repeatedly botch the names of 2 of the 3 main characters so badly, despite having watched the movie multiple times (I assume) and put clear thought and effort into making this video? It’s kinda impressive
Lewellyn did not get drunk , he did not cheat on his wife . In a sense , this is why he died . When he follows his conscience , bad things happen
I have watched NCFOM many times, it is one of my all time favourite movies. This analysis does it justice and bring many new insights to it. Well done Eric, as a newbie I am loving your channel.
Absolutely love the analysis. It’s spot on, you’ve said everything that needed to be said on the theme and meaning of the film.
HOWEVER, how is it possible that you know this story so well, and yet you can’t pronounce Llewelyn and Anton?!
im stupid
i lost a brain cell every time you said lewin or antoine 😭
@@FallopiumFilms 11:14 You missed very crucial detail here. You said coin 🪙 represents Anton. But Anton insists that shopkeeper consider the coin to be special even though shopkeeper doesn't know why. Just as Anton subconsciously considers himself to be special (from the point of Universe) even though he doesn't know why. Very important detail.
In the scene where Anton’s car is hit by another car, he doesn’t seem shocked that something like that could happen to him. He accepts it completely as his fate. He doesn’t even look to see who is in the other car after the crash because it doesn’t matter who drove the car or why the crash happened. It simply happened. I think this scene shows the depth to which Anton believes in fatalism, not just when he is empowered by it, but even when he is at its mercy.
hey- hats off to you. I'm rewatching the movie and your analysis sheds a lot of light on it. bravo and keep it up
Hey- thanks.
This was one of my favorite videos to write and work on but I can’t seem to get many eyes on it
@@FallopiumFilms well it was worth it to watch it.
You’ve to call it or it won’t be fair. This small dialogue gives us such great depth into his point of view
I’ve watched no country many times and I always felt it was about fate, glad to see an analysis and fleshing out of this!
What would happen if the money was left by the dead mexican in the desert? What if Chigurh got the money instead of Lewen? the movie is over. All he had to do was leave the money. Greed is what this movie is about.
Watched this movie such a long time ago. Great analysis, makes me wanna watch it again.
You my friend are my new RUclips channel, your balls go very very deep when it comes to dissecting movies and series. Well done brother!
Makes me wanna watch this again
The narration here is really great. This is a beautifully shot movie. It is also incredibly depressing.
Woah, woah, woah, I just noticed your views and subscriber count. These are well crafted, and I hope my comment becomes badly aged.
Love your reviews and your voice being incredibly soothing is a plus
Understanding this is an analysis of the film, I still wish you had given credit to Cormac McCarthy's book it's based on (especially considering he's one of the best writers of the last century). Almost all of the themes, dialogue & flow of the scenes are lifted directly from the book--you could even argue they used the book itself as the screenplay. Even things like not showing Llewelyn's & Carla Jean's deaths aren't decisions the Coens made, they're directly from the book.
I agree
@@FallopiumFilms Like you, I think it's a nearly flawless film. It's not my favorite novel by McCarthy, but it's still good--& a good first novel of his for new readers.
This movie is about greed and stupidity. If Llewelyn had left the money with the dead Mexican under the tree there would be no movie.
When the Coen Brothers make a film from a book they like they are very faithful to it. That's why they made True Grit, they didn't like the liberties the John Wayne version took with the book.
wow this is a brilliant analysis! Amazing
He mispronounces the main characters name at least 50 times 😂
Great vid man, i really love your videos!
Good points you make, but that women by the pool didn't distracted him, he refused which lead to his death beacuse he was now in his room where the cartell knew he was otherwise he would have survived. Everytime he does the morally right thing he getts punished, refusing the advances of the women, bringing the halfdead guy from the mexican stand off water.
I think you nailed this. I also believe, personally, that McCarthy was a materialist. I’ve read much of his work and base it on all of that. I used to believe in free will but now realize I will not know which is true while I’m alive. As I say, “Predestination absent memory of the future is indistinguishable from free well.” - J. Martinez
Man this channel is amazing
This movie uses a lot of Schrodingers Cat. A paradox where both instances can exist when not being witnessed.
This is shown at the end of the film, where the Sheriff is about to open the hotel door, where we see Anton hiding in the room but ultimately is not there when he acknowledges the chance in the situation, draws his gun and "calls it".
The coens love this idea. I hope you’ve watched the Fargo series? It uses it a lot
Awesome analysis buddy, Well done!!!
While I am not a fan of the film, this video was great! It's interesting to see different interpretations of one movie.
"luh" + "WEL" + "in"
Lewin is the other Coen movie
This was honestly an incredible video and made me love this movie even. I must say that I really felt the need to clear my throat all throughout 😂😂😂.
I've gotten so many "clear your throat" comments I'm about to make a video of me clearing my throat for 10 seconds straight
@@FallopiumFilms Going for that Chigur voice
Amazing brother ❤
Lou-Ellen*
In the book she calls it, she loses.
thank you
I think the car scene speaks to the consequences of being ignorant of each mindset.
if you view the world through the lense of determinism only, you will be hit in the face by chance, if you view it through chance/free will, you will be hit by determinism..
Well said
In the book she ends up calling it and loses, then Anton kills her. So ultimately from the source material, Anton won completely. The car crash is just a miscalculation of Anton
We know the determinism won. It is suggested by Anton looking at the bottom of his shoes, which he often took off before killing people or made sure the pooling blood don't stain them (after shooting Carson). Also, we know determinism won because in the book Carla Jean finally calls it and calls it wrong. It goes like this:
You are asking that I second say the world. Do you see?
Yes, she said sobbing, I do. I truly do.
Good, he said. That's good. Then he shot her.
Couldn't help myself but sharing this, but I get the gist of your essay and I really enjoyed it.
This is hilarious, I came here from your comment on your video on magnolia, you told me to check out your no country video, only to find out I've watched this already ahaha very good vid man you got a sub.
U are preaching volumes as is the movie, the Coens, we can only trust our creators methods. We reap what we have given out. Every foul action or word will return to us. As well as good. Every bullet has an address as we see on the news day after day. When God wants his souls back He gets them back.
Anton is the most realistic showcasing of a psychopath in any Hollywood film as per the experts.
Great analysis! Sidenote: do you know if we can find the transcript for the final cut of the movie online?
... I like the way you think boy... subbed!
I think you are mixing determinism and fatalism on some points and I think he kills her because he looks at his boots after he comes out from the house. In an earlier scene where he kills he looks at his boots after shooting checking whether there's any blood on them
If you want to get specific, yes the terms are different, but for the most part they are used interchangeably. For what Anton represents, I think either will do.
And yes, him looking at his boots is the clue to her dying.
@@FallopiumFilms What I try to mean is, If Anton's world view is fatalistic then there would be no difference in whether he calls the coin or the person calls, but in deterministic view there would be a difference as to who calls the coin.
@@FallopiumFilms
Great analysis!! You deserve a lot more subscribers.
There’s a similar theme of determinism v free will in the movie Forrest Gump….
In the film's closing scene, Forrest Gumps humanity is perfectly encapsulated as he visits Jenny's grave and tries to make sense of his loss, grief, deep love and the way reality and existence works.
“I don't know if we have a destiny, or if we're all just floatin' around accidental-like on a breeze, but I think maybe it's both. Maybe both is happenin' at the same time."
This concept is mirrored in the film's poignant ending. The image of a feather blowing in the wind wilfully defying gravity by design, whilst randomly being pulled in all directions by the wind, the irreducible and relentless forces of nature.
A symbol of the struggle to break free from meaningless determined matter and transcend the corporeal.
“If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. ... Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having.” (C.S. Lewis).
The movies Blade runner, It’s a wonderful life and to Kill a mocking Bird, including Jayne Eyre and Wuthering Heights would be good film/book reviews also.
All the best to you and your family and keep safe ❤️
@@georgedoyle7971 speaking of that, you may be interested in my video on Forrest Gump where I cover this exact subject
Thoughts about the crash - it does seem to raise so many questions, of what does it mean as far as fate or chance, especially since we don't see the end of the scene before it. There's plenty of blood and brutality in the movie, so it isn't like they are trying to spare our eyes of the bloodshed, and we do know that it's extremely likely she was killed, because he checks his boots, had promised he would kill her, and kills without visible emotion or regret. Her death or life seems important to the story, but, as you pointed out, the really important part of the scene is the debate between the 2 philosophies, and that is what we are left not knowing to any degree of certainty. You could say it's a 50 50 chance she chose, or he chose, but the debate rages on between us and the universe, as it may with anton after the car crash, but the coen brothers didn't help us any by letting the previous scene play out, because if he chose, we could see the car crash as the consequence of him going against his path, which had before, put him into a sorta bubble of safety within his following it, to a sociopathic level, which could even hint to the fact that he is only who he is, because when he varies from the path the universe threatens his very life. If she chose, we could see that despite everything being checked off, and his philosophy being followed to an absolute degree, he is still a victim of random chance or fate, or perhaps that has survival of the crash shows chance or fate may try and kill you but if you follow your path true you have better odds of survival. Maybe that's what fate really is, it's surviving despite chance being an unforgiving monster, constantly at odds with your survival
I think the latter option is more likely, since that is what happens in the book
@@ross8858 never read the book and had been awhile since last time i watched the movie, but you say the book makes it look like? What, that despite everything, anton is as much as a victim of chance in an uncaring universe? Or, that it seems, it was a smack from the universe for not staying 100 percent on his path?
@@BigSmiley0TV I think that he was as much a victim of chance as anyone else, since in the book, he definitely wins during that conversation. Clara Jean makes the same argument, but Chigurh explains his philosophy more in depth, asks her if she understands, and when she says yes, he kills her (previous to this she caved and called heads on the coin, hence losing the bet). This abruptly cuts to his getting into the car crash.
@@ross8858 right on, then yeah i most certainly concur with you on this. Might have to check the book out 👍
@@BigSmiley0TV I definitely recommend you do!
If you do things against your feelings, how is that determanism?
Me gusta como entró en la farmacia , mañana voy al Froiz de misma manera.😊
Do it!!
*chefs kiss*
Did you say Antoine?
Antoine and Lewynn? Lolol. Sounds likr a rap group. Anton and Liewellyn
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"Lewellyn." You are mispronouncing it. I don't agree - Lewellyn is not "dumb."
He's not called Lewin.
My bad. Check the description.
There is no free will, scientifically life is determestic sprinkled with randomness. But we have to live as if free will exist. What is true and what works is two different thing.
Antoine and Anton are not pronounced the same. His name is Anton.
I like Barry Corbin's character
Is at least say the names right...
At least check the description...
Often, mistakes are acknowledged there.
@@FallopiumFilms my point is, if you don't evwn know the characters names, how can you possibly expect people to take your analysis seriously?
@@allenm2705 I can and they do
The meaning is greed. Love of money over all else. Stupidity. Free will to abandon the money. Walk away. Let Chigurh have the money and the movie is over the plot doesn't exist.
Greed is much too simple of a concept for this film
@@FallopiumFilms But that's what it comes down to. If he would have just walked away Chigurh would have got the money returned it to the gangsters and everyone else would have been safe. Psychopaths are just psychopaths. The nature if him is his psychopathy and it was pretty random. He likes to play with people and flip a coin for their fate this is just the writer creating content for the movie to make it more interesting. Human nature is greed and stupidity. Just walk away from the money and there is no movie. It's just a movie after all.
Why do you keep calling him lewin, ya spoon. It's Llewellyn. Loo-ellin
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“Antoine & Lewin” yeah, this video is null and void lml
Just how the hell can you completely & repeatedly botch the names of 2 of the 3 main characters so badly, despite having watched the movie multiple times (I assume) and put clear thought and effort into making this video? It’s kinda impressive
You used Antoine once and then Anton other times? Okay.
Yup, I mispronounced things. Sorry. Go away now
Good. But you mispronounced character names.
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DAYUM, this is boring shit about one of the most intense movies made.
Congratz, now do the Fortnite dance and return to playing Minecraft.
Lol props for trying
😂