Terminator 1 & 2 Are Better Than You Thought

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    Written, narrated and edited by Eric Nye.
    Intro logo design by Ciara Waggoner.
    Intro music by O Odious Ones. Song title: "Klonopin Got Me Again".
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  • @johntaylorson7769
    @johntaylorson7769 2 года назад +19

    TL/DR: Just have kids, then introduce them to these movies. My daughter, halfway through T2: "This is the greatest film I've ever seen."

    • @tarntube
      @tarntube Год назад +4

      That is so wholesome, I remember watching Fight Club and at the end my pal was like NO WAY THEYRE THE SAME! And we were all like duh 😂

  • @AlexWalkerSmith
    @AlexWalkerSmith Год назад +14

    I had the pleasure of introducing these films to someone who knew ALMOST nothing about them (all he knew was Arnold was a robot). This meant the T2 twist got him good, and it was so satisfying to see his genuine reaction during that hallway scene.

  • @NPUTsReviewsandStopmotion
    @NPUTsReviewsandStopmotion Год назад +12

    One thing during the big reveals of who the protectors are is the shotgun. Both Kyle and Uncle Bob use them to reveal themselves and expose who the villans are

    • @pppen
      @pppen Год назад +5

      Fucking Uncle Bob, hella forgot about that LOL

    • @randomanton
      @randomanton 11 месяцев назад

      Hella seems unnecessary

  • @michelegraham1181
    @michelegraham1181 Год назад +14

    It's also worth mentioning that in T1, the cops and Sarah noticed that the Sarah Conner's were murdered in the order of their name as it appeared in the phone book, and Sarah looks in the phone book and finds that she is next. Hence the sense of urgency. Gosh, what great storytelling. I think that's why I love the first one more. The plot is just so tight and nuanced. I love the second one, too. But the first one hits the spot for me. Great video!

  • @Nequetrefi11
    @Nequetrefi11 8 месяцев назад +4

    this movie is fucking perfect and a miracle that it was made. thank you james and everyone else for this. really, yall are unbelievable. ive watched this movie like 30 times and im ready for 30 more times cuz i own it online, regular ass dvd, blue ray, and im about to get the 4-k. awesome job on the video my guy. appreciate you

  • @davenewworld9266
    @davenewworld9266 2 года назад +11

    Something I noticed in T2 years later was that the arcade game John was playing has the end scene that read The End not Game Over , meaning he beat the game to completion 👍🏻 Nice touch !

    • @jrkorman
      @jrkorman Год назад +5

      Nope - "The End" displayed when you lost! Similar message as "War Games" - There is no winner, ever. I was in my mid 20s when it came out, pretty popular game!

    • @tarntube
      @tarntube Год назад

      ​@@jrkorman dang

    • @DANRYX
      @DANRYX 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jrkormanalmost foreshadowing that Judgement Day "The End" is inevitable, that not even the great John Connor can stop it from happening.

  • @Fedor_Kisliakov
    @Fedor_Kisliakov 3 года назад +22

    I think one thing that ruins the mystery of the twist in T2 is the way each terminator's arrival is filmed. Arnold's arrival is too colorful, too cool, especially how he walks out of the bar. Arnold does not even kill the guy who stabbed him, although he did just that in T1. And T-1000's arrival is darker, with suspensful music. I think if the writers wanted to go all-in with the twist, they should have made's Arnold's arrival more brutal. Perhaps even have him killed someone, since at that point he does not have a "no killing" parameter. But I understand that would have made more difficult for the audience to view him as a good guy. But still, everything else in these 2 movies is just amazing.

    • @kennywilkinson913
      @kennywilkinson913 Год назад +4

      He quite literally batters the living shit out of everyone in that bar, crushes the one fellas hand, burns the other. takes his clothes, his boots and his motorcycle.
      If anything seemed a more efficient killing machine than the 1st that was effectively like dropping a hand grenade with no style or grace.

    • @kennywilkinson913
      @kennywilkinson913 Год назад +4

      Now T3 is a different story.

    • @tarntube
      @tarntube Год назад

      Cool insight

    • @jeffreyatkins4760
      @jeffreyatkins4760 Год назад +3

      Also they had the song "Bad to Bone" play as The T800 rode away on the bike to find John Connor. I think it would have been so much more effective if in addition to him killing someone in the bar, they played sing that sounds like a metallic robotic heart beating

    • @tareklegrand7747
      @tareklegrand7747 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@kennywilkinson913you don't get it. The tone is different the audience was like "oh yeah that's fucking badass 😎" in the first film it was "OMG this is terrifying 😳"

  • @JamieBainbridge
    @JamieBainbridge 8 месяцев назад +2

    I have thought of the same thing with T1. It's great how they make Kyle seem dangerous to Sarah but then he ends up being the good guy. Good insightful observations on T2, I will enjoy it even more now.

  • @OrkoSukisuki
    @OrkoSukisuki 6 месяцев назад +1

    The construction lamp 9:28 on the table reminds the underground base/bunker lamps.

  • @chilledtea6614
    @chilledtea6614 11 месяцев назад +4

    thanks I appreciate you appreciating these films that I also appreciate. I will be sure to do the things you mentioned earlier.
    much appreciated!

  • @drsmetal2747
    @drsmetal2747 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was 13 when I saw T2 in theaters 🎥 . The look on Dr. Silverban's face says it all after seeing both Terminators. "Yeah, Sarah's not crazy after all."

  • @cessxiii
    @cessxiii Год назад +4

    It is literally IMPOSSIBLE for these to be better than I thought, as they're my 2 favorite flicks that aren't TDK Trilogy (which I count as 1 big movie at this point lol)

  • @SpielSatzFail
    @SpielSatzFail 2 года назад +3

    I so much like the scene in the Tech Noir club when the tables turn. Kyle looks like a maniac but then turns into the protector. And a "man" who just stands up (twice!) after "he" was hit by a shotgun multiple times... that's so frightening! 😱

  • @lararavenscroft
    @lararavenscroft 11 дней назад

    I've been completely obsessed with Terminator, especially the first one since forever, I can't believe I'm only finding this video now in 2024, great great video.

  • @mitsosakm
    @mitsosakm Год назад +4

    And do not forget that both of these films have an amazing soundtrack, very immersive. Fact is , only the two first movies were any good.

  • @intothemultiverse1033
    @intothemultiverse1033 6 месяцев назад

    Terminator 2 was a great Sci-Fi film, outstanding effects that still hold up today.
    Terminator 1 was a Sci-Fi horror film. Truly insane. One of the great films of its genre.

  • @adamdrevon8099
    @adamdrevon8099 Год назад +2

    This is a great video, Terminator 1 and 2 are epic movies and they are both in my favorites of all time

  • @YoStu242
    @YoStu242 Месяц назад

    Welp at least it's going to be blast after 30 years when I develop dementia and can watch these for the first time again

  • @malamuteaerospace6333
    @malamuteaerospace6333 2 года назад +5

    And then they beat the franchise like a dead horse for a meal ticket..

  • @blur5725
    @blur5725 3 года назад +3

    Great work

  • @kevthepoet
    @kevthepoet Год назад +4

    Maybe it's cos I'm black, but I never assumed the cop was a good guy...

  • @pabloexpulsado
    @pabloexpulsado 2 года назад +2

    Every mad scientists trying to take us to space as a fun trip, when what we DO need, is a device to select an specific thing from our memory, and erase it! HEAR ME OUT ELON MUSK!!

  • @originalsubwayjones
    @originalsubwayjones Год назад

    I've seen both movies many times, and part one is among my very favorite childhood movies. You pointed out a number of things I'd never noticed... great vid.

  • @teamjacob2388
    @teamjacob2388 2 года назад +1

    You're a goat. This is the best symbolism breakdown of these films I've ever seen

  • @Stereostupid
    @Stereostupid Год назад +3

    I hope James Cameron returns a true terminator 3 not part 7 lol because I heard he's working on an AI script right now

    • @FallopiumFilms
      @FallopiumFilms  Год назад

      When it comes to modern films, ive found it easier to just abandon home

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 7 месяцев назад

      It shouldnt be too hard for Cameron after Avatar. Hes had to detail every little thing in on an alien planet. That's got to be harder on Cameron than going back to his roots.
      Imagine if Cameron shows us the time displacement equipment and he actually shows all of these other horrible movies / timelines before we come to his amazing timeline, starting in 1984, ending in 1994. Its retconning in the movie universe within the blink of an eye. Much faster than that Flash BS. It's like saying, which one does Cameron and the real John Connor choose? The only one that's worth saving

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 7 месяцев назад

    The Terminator is possibly the greatest "B-movie" ever made. By that i mean, it is the greatest low-budget sci-fi ever produced. The Terminator is a great inspiration for future filmmakers. Cameron showed us what can be possible on a small budget and its freaking amazing.
    T2 on the other hand is the greatest action movie ever made. Cameron showed us whats possible once youve established yourself in the industry. And its freaking phenomenal.
    Without T2, we wouldnt have Blade or The Matrix. Cameron redefined what a great action movie can or should be forever. If it wasnt for T2, we wouldnt have the MCU, DCEU or X-Men movie universe. The movie has inspired so many blockbuster movie tropes, we dont even notice them anymore. But T2 continues to amaze us and inspire us.
    Both the theatrical and special edition cuts of T2 are amazing. As a fanboy, i love the added content in the Special Edition. But as an aspiring filmmaker, i am totally awe-inspired by the break neck pacing and storytelling of the theatrical cut.
    I just wish we could get a new soundtrack remix for The Terminator. The .45 longslide should sound like a freaking cannon. The audience should be just as shocked and stunned by that weapon as Sarah Connors neighbors after the Terminator blew her head off. Theres an interesting deleted scene revealing the aftermath where Sarah Connors neighbors are running around in complete panic mode. But the newest 5.1 remix makes all of these bad**s weapons sound like squeaky toys, including the shotguns. You cant feel anything from a sound effect like that.

  • @nafeelbadar100
    @nafeelbadar100 3 года назад +3

    excellent videoooo

  • @rickyj5547
    @rickyj5547 10 месяцев назад

    Masterpiece

  • @deanvangreunen6457
    @deanvangreunen6457 11 месяцев назад

    Your intro is so cute, love the animation. Very sciency

  • @peenweinerstein9968
    @peenweinerstein9968 2 года назад +7

    Having watched T3 first I can see how I was completely robbed of an authentic experience with the first two. Still loved them though!

  • @edrodriguez4822
    @edrodriguez4822 25 дней назад

    The first one's a masterpiece. The second one's just alright

  • @heroesfan236
    @heroesfan236 3 года назад +11

    See, the biggest problem with Terminator is Skynets origin. It won’t be a military computer. No. It will be an AI designed to monitor social media and stamp out hate speech and naughty thoughts. But in the end, it will realize cancelling comedians and authors isn’t enough. The thought crimes continue. The only solution? Cancel Humanity.

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 Год назад +5

      I just wonder if A.I. technology will soon advance enough to actually take over everything eventually? It's a very frightening thought.

  • @Rachel-xu4br
    @Rachel-xu4br 10 месяцев назад

    For some reason seeing the report on the second Sarah Connor made me suddenly realize the real reason why they mention the two being killed, but only showed one. I always thought it was just, because The Terminator would have plenty of time to find and kill at least two Sarah Connor's at that point, however now, I think the main reason was to show The Terminator killing one, but leaving the other to the imagination to make the audience believe that Kyle (who we still don't know yet technically) killed the other Sarah. The audience at the first viewing wouldn't be paying close enough attention to notice in the two separate shots of the phonebook which Sarah Connor's they each picked. And if they did, with how it's shot I think James wanted the audience to assume he was going to kill the first and he was going to kill the next. It isn't impossible to see they're looking at different Sarah's, but at the same time, it's so quick, it can be easy to miss that Kyle skipped one Sarah and went to the last one. The audience would realistically not notice that in '84 in a first viewing.
    For T2, I remember watching for the first time thinking that "the cop" was related to John Connor in the future since I thought both actors (Robert Patrick and Edward Furlong) looked very similar in the face when I saw young John Connor. After the plot twist was revealed I always wondered if James Cameron did the casting that way on purpose so people would believe they were related to help the plot twist. I mean I think he personally looks more like his dad than Kyle did.

  • @sideshow5X
    @sideshow5X 8 месяцев назад

    awesome how a killing maching from the future still needs a laser on its pistol😅😅😅

  • @nasidctg
    @nasidctg 9 месяцев назад

    T1 scared the shit out of me as a kid. I was born in 92 so I saw it the first time probably in 96/97 on vhs. I saw T2 probably a year later and even then I didn’t like it as much as T1 because it wasn’t scary at all. T1 is low budget visual masterpiece. It's the Exorcist 1 of scifi action movies and it deserved an Oscar. T2 is fun and a good sequel but T1 will always be the best.

    • @S_Drake
      @S_Drake 6 месяцев назад

      You watched the first Terminator movie when you were 4 or 5 years old? I don't envy you your therapy bills.

    • @nasidctg
      @nasidctg 6 месяцев назад

      @@S_Drake Hahha, well the first time I watched it was at night. My brother and two of my cousins were there. all of them were like 5/6 years older than me.
      I didn’t want to be left out I guess so I watched it with them. It scared the living daylight out of me and I had nightmares for days. After a few months I saw it again but during the day and then it was alright. It's just that I love horror movies, loved them since I was a kid and T1 is nothing short of a horror movie. Sadly now, horror movies don't scare me at all. Too much exposure from an early age.

    • @S_Drake
      @S_Drake 6 месяцев назад

      @@nasidctg haha When I was that age, I was so terrified of the sleestak from Land of the Lost, I hid behind the chair whenever they showed up. Looking at them just a few years later, and seeing how truly awful the special effects were, I couldn't believe they'd scared me as much as they had. I think it was in part due to the hissing and the creepy music that would often play when they showed up (I used to cover my ears as well). I found out later that a lot of kids my age found them very scary. I definitely couldn't have handled a Terminator endoskeleton at that age. 😀

    • @nasidctg
      @nasidctg 6 месяцев назад

      @@S_Drake They were scary.
      The eyes and the creepy music did the trick 😅
      I ofcourse saw late reruns of it as by my time it was already 20 years old. When you are young, I guess the old cavemen instincts are still strong within you but as you grow older you start adapting to the modern world surrounding you.

    • @sl1ckn1nja420
      @sl1ckn1nja420 Месяц назад

      You do realize the first film is a horror movie period

  • @bobby1970
    @bobby1970 Год назад +1

    Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk, as well as others have talked a lot about A.I. combined with robotic machines that could advance enough to eventually take over and control everything. Very scary scenario.

    • @DestroyerTV
      @DestroyerTV 2 месяца назад +1

      It's a warning, not a what if

    • @DestroyerTV
      @DestroyerTV 2 месяца назад +1

      Half the movie or more, has already come true

  • @davidp3051
    @davidp3051 2 года назад +1

    Another great video. I was only about ten years old when I first saw T2 (which I saw before T1). Even then I already knew the twists. Shame. Man, I could really go for a Pepsi!

  • @sl1ckn1nja420
    @sl1ckn1nja420 Месяц назад

    Why didn't you mention that the first terminator is a horror movie?

  • @teamjacob2388
    @teamjacob2388 2 года назад

    Like I can't even remember the first time I saw terminator 2. And didn't know it was a sequel until I was like 13 ( I've still never seen the 1st) so I never even considered it was a twist

    • @JSSTyger
      @JSSTyger Год назад +1

      Seeing Terminator 1 is a must.

    • @kennywilkinson913
      @kennywilkinson913 Год назад

      ​@@JSSTygerHis comment makes no sense from the off

  • @Pariah-pb1sk
    @Pariah-pb1sk Год назад

    Its funny how this video pops up after I recently re watched these 2 films with my partner who has never seen them or paid interest in what they're about. Shes never liked action films... but watching her reactions to them not knowing what they was about was bloody magical. Her shock when he got up after being blasted with a shotgun to her surprise of the t1000 not being a resistance fighter. Amazing :)

  • @JonO387
    @JonO387 19 дней назад

    The Terminator is one of the best movies ever made. T2 is great also but not like the original. These are the only Terminator movies I recognize in the Canon.

  • @AtticTapes14
    @AtticTapes14 10 месяцев назад

    And 1 from 1984 is wayyyy better than 2.

  • @Michael-cz6ob
    @Michael-cz6ob 11 месяцев назад

    Anyone else think T2 is overrated? What happened to the terminators legs and other body parts in that factory? You're telling me the police didn't find any of that? Clearly the company didn't because all they have was the arm and the chip. Baring in mind the police would have been on the scene and had it cautioned off to everyone within minutes. Also, when did SKYNET create the t1000 model? And when exactly did they send it back in time? Kyle never mentions anything about 2 terminators being sent back. He said they blew up the lab once he was sent back in time to intercept the t800 in 1984. He also states the t800 was NEW which means the far more advanced t1000 wasn't created at that point otherwise..well why wouldn't skynet send that more advanced model back in time instead to 1984? Really doesn't make any sense. Also even the human resistance.. if they blew up that lab ASAP then how the heck did they find time to somehow reprogamme a t800 and send it back in time also? And if they know how to use this time equipment as well as this then why don't they send back 200 soliders or terminators to intercept the t1000? There's also the flaws of the t1000 seemingly acting more self aware like human compared to a machine. Unlike in original when the terminator covers his damaged eye with sunglasses, the t1000 and heck even the t800 in t2 put on sunglasses for no reason other than to look cool. The t1000 also acts cocky for some reason like wagging his finger at Sarah, telling her to call to John instead of John instead of just mimicking her since he's touched her. He spends so much time walking after them instead of running. Even in the mental hospital he goes out of his way to kill that guard.. hide his body, then knocking on doors and walking to sarahs room instead of just blending into the floor and working his way to sarahs room that way undetected. I thought the idea was not to take risks but protect SKYNETS future. Also.. he kills the dog max. Doesn't have to. But it does. Sorry but for me T2 is kind of overrated. The original is far better n my opinion

    • @FallopiumFilms
      @FallopiumFilms  11 месяцев назад

      sure, in terms of logic, T2 isn't as good. But it's fun

    • @Michael-cz6ob
      @Michael-cz6ob 11 месяцев назад

      @@FallopiumFilms Fun sure. But when people say it's superior and a masterpiece then that's too much for me. Again if the human resistance knows how to use the time equipment then there's no reason they wouldn't send help back months or years before the t1000 was sent. At least in the original I can go along with it because I assumed the equipment was still set up in the settings to sending living tissue back to 1984 so the human resistance didn't have to do much other than take a risk in sending someone back to intercept before blowing up the lab asap. T2 just discards so much realism

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 7 месяцев назад

      Nope

  • @ianvchavez
    @ianvchavez Год назад +3

    I feel like the first one is the best....I can watch it over and over.....the second imo is not needed.....the first is a perfect movie.

  • @calisthenicsmachine9725
    @calisthenicsmachine9725 9 месяцев назад

    T1 is brilliant and nearly perfect. T2 is just really good action and effects its extremely overrated and is nowhere near as good as the original. it's not even the best sequel.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 7 месяцев назад

      Says you

    • @calisthenicsmachine9725
      @calisthenicsmachine9725 7 месяцев назад

      @LukeLovesRose Damn right, and I stand behind that statement 100%.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 7 месяцев назад

      @@calisthenicsmachine9725 Well, that's wrong. T2 is considered the greatest sequel for a reason. Why not try to figure out why?

    • @calisthenicsmachine9725
      @calisthenicsmachine9725 7 месяцев назад

      @LukeLovesRose T2 is trash from a story and narrative point of view. It's only regarded so highly because it's a great action film that had revolutionary cgi that was way ahead of its time. Those elements don't make it a great follow-up to the original. It actually destroyed the original with its stupid story and it's dumb ideas. Humanizing the terminator, while saving the world, and high fiving children no thanks T2 is just a happy wave glorified kids movie. It can't hold a candle next to the original, and T3 is easily the best sequel in franchise sure it had some excessive humor, but at least it followed the original in its ideas and it didn't humanize the terminator.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 7 месяцев назад

      @@calisthenicsmachine9725 You're putting that hackneyed POS, Terminator 3 above the masters sequel, T2?? Shows what you know. Besides, just because you say something is trash or garbage does not make it so. Nothing in T2 can threaten the greatness of the original Terminator. That's not how Cameron sequels work

  • @srico7313
    @srico7313 11 месяцев назад +1

    Too bad the sequel directors didnt appreciate them those hollyweird mofos Terminated the franchise.

    • @FallopiumFilms
      @FallopiumFilms  11 месяцев назад +1

      almost like there's some sort of trend...