Hey @@RandomGaminginHD do you think you could make that beast even better at a lower price? I'd be curious to see an "upgrade" with an RX5600XT. It has always been an underrated GPU no one talks about! Thanks to that, the price/performance ratio destroys everything. It might outperform the 3050 for half the cost.
There’s something comfortable and sleek about it these office PC internal upgrades. Like a 5-year employee that’s got himself a pay raise and a bigger cubicle next to the window. Just nice.
I actually did something like this at a previous job: it was a Dell with an i7 4770, no GPU and an HDD. I sneakily bought an SSD, cloned the drive and put a 1050Ti in it. It was like a completely different system. I just wish I was able to game on it a little haha.
@@homelessEh yeah no shit lol, nowadays a crappy case thats worse then those 35 dollar cases is 100 bucks. I got a corsair case with a glass window for 50 bucks but that was used not new.I mean it was used for a few months so it wasnt new new but close enough. ive even resorted to buying cheap case fans from Rosewill compared to Corsair OR nzxt.I kid you not, the computer I use is a pre-built.I got it when the gpu craze for bitmining was there.I got it for 400 without a gpu but its not all that bad, i5-11400, 16 gigs of ram, an rx 6600(which I got later) and a 512gb nvme drive and a 1 tb ssd drive. for 1080p isnt bad. luckily I live next to a rich ass neighborhood. I picked up my 26" 1080p monitor for 3 bucks at a garage sale
These interest me far more than an RGB 14700K RTX 4090 build. In fact half my PC gaming time seems to be taken up with tinkering and experimenting with lower end hardware. I wouldn't have it any other way. The games themselves are almost just a bonus benefit to me now.
I'm the same way. Rather push some old tech to the limits rather than just buy something that just works. lol. Dont get me wrong my daily driver is a fairly beefy PC but I dont use it often. I am always building a system. Right now I have been soldering stacks of these 3020 SSF motherboards to "UN-DELL" them. I'll solder the pins on the underside to allow the board to be installed in a normal case without all the dell extras and the F1 errors. it basically turns a dell proprietary board into a standard mobo so anyone can use it in a budget build. I know how to fix all the way up to 4th gen. Looking for some schematics so I can research doing it to newer boards as well.
@@RandomGaminginHD I agree on that, it has an old good day feeling back in early 2000 when me and my friends usualy had to play on our family computer and the only part we would be able to touch because of budget or to avoid a kitchen pan to the head was the GPU and maybe MAYBE the ram with cool parents 😆
Back during the 2017 and then the 2020 mining boom these office machine was a GOD SEND for budget gamers. I used to run a PC shop and these machine helped out A LOT of people to game on the cheap. In 2017 it was 2nd gen I7 paired with a GTX 750ti 2GB and in 2020 it was a 4th gen I7 with a GTX 1050 or 1050ti. I sold probably close to a hundred of these being a single person operation back then. 2-300$ for some pre owned PC that can run 2-3 years old game at 1080p 60fps was a huge market back then. Too bad the pandemic and lockdown killed my shop due to most of the clientle were expat English teachers and they all went home during the lockdown and there goes my business. Didn't make a fortune back then but it is a lot more enjoyable than what I do now.
Imagine back then AM4 was a bigger thing than it was and there is a Z240 equivalent with a 500W PSU with updated BIOS that can take something like the 5700x 3d. Urgh it would be so so good.
Mining was booming around 2017-18 until roughly 2021. I should know - it was partially my fault. But yes, I built quite a few of these sorts of machines for people back then!
Good purchase and a great use case for such a card! Given that it has 2x DisplayPort and 1x DVI (I think it's DVI?) you can run multiple monitors off that card if needed. You got yourself a bargain if you did indeed only pay £20 for that card :)
This is so weird, you are number one soul brother. I just bought one of these for my daughter and the video card came in yesterday is the exact one you bought. The only differences is that mine is i7 6700 and 32gb ram. Total price in dollars was 275. Rtx 3050 was the cowards way out because the 400watt is a platinum with 194 watts on 12VDC1 rail so I figured I probably could get away with a RX6600. It would be really nice of you to try and play a few games with it to confirm (I don't have the card, I figured you did). I am sending this PC far away so I wasn't brave enough to go that route.
Nice to see this sort of build making a comeback. An alternative GPU, if you don't mind going used, is the 2060 or 2060 Super, and the Super may give you more performance. It would bring the budget down for sure. I have no idea why people paint these machines white though, or want white electronics generally... surely it would collect dirt like a magnet?! If they're that concerned about aesthetics I guess they'd be okay with wiping it down every week.
My daughter has a 6700k cpu paired with a gtx 980.....the cpu doesnt hold the gpu back at all.....having said this the 3050 seems like an excellent choice for the machine....love your content...keep it coming!!!😊
Nice. Built this week a secondary PC myself from cheap and second hand parts, had a GTX 1650 laying around and noticed that you can get a new b450 for like €50 these days and old used ryzens are pretty cheap as well. The codeword was future upgradeability, so PSU ended up being the most expensive component, though as a 550W Seasonic model it's hardly powerful enough to run anything past midrange. As my "new" CPU was too old for Windows 11, it has also been a good excuse to learn how to use Linux again.
great video ! with the 6pin cable, you can go with the gtx1650super which is a lil bit weaker than the rtx3050 6gb for very cheap. i guess it's the perfect pairing for such a budget gaming pc
I built an 8600k used system lately "8600k:63$ (used)MSI Z370:70$ (used)32 GB 3200mhz memory:54$ (used)" Tossed in a 6650xt, although I felt a bit scammed when I realized the memory and PCI is gimped on this card. I was only skimming through benchmarks and didnt realize 😂😅 Still its performing like a champ for me. Actual output very good, I play bannerlord, Hoi4, gunfire reborn, get perfect performance
8x pci e is still nowhere near as gimped as their lower end 6400 and 6500XT. It's probably a 2-5% hit, whereas the 4x cards can get a 20-40% hit on PCI EX GEN 3.
My man, you are creating content from my browser history. 😂 I am using a Lenovo 720 paired with a i5-7600k, some “buddy deal” RAM and SSD. I am currently researching 3050/3060/etc., as the Lenovo I’m using was nice enough to include a 6/8pin output from the 400w PSU. Keep up the great work, you’re guiding me to shepherd my kiddos into PC gaming. 💯
I used a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter or just plugged a 6-pin into a 8-pin GPU directly without adapter on some of my lower end builds and they work fine as long as you do not draw higher than 75W over the 6-pin. A RX 6600 has a tdp of 132W and 75W is already supplied over PCI-E so only 52W goes over the wiring. Just dont install a GPU with a TDP over 150W if you want to be safe. A GTX 1070 or RX 570 is 150W is good because 75W goes through the slot and 75W through the 8-pin. Also some 8-pin GPU's do not require an adapter at all and will work fine with a 6-pin plugged in directly. So try this first before buying an adapter.
I used for example 960 (120) and found with GPU Z that the PCIE Slot does not automatically uses all the 75W meaning I had only about 50 though the PCIE slot and 70 though the 6 pin
@@fabsenbmx Yes it depends on the GPU and PSU. If you are using a good quality PSU you should still be fine being 10-20W over spec but if you have a $20 Diablotek 250W PSU you better bring the fire extinguisher along.
I remember a video once (albeit not by RGinHD) where someone went from SATA power to 6 pin then 6 pin to 8 pin in order to get a GPU working on some sort of OEM PC (because that's all that could be used). It wasn't retty, and certainly not something I'd do. There are some GPUs that have a single 6 pin connector, which is what I'd do if I didn't want adapters. (with a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter you could use something like an RTX 2060)
Agreed, I would use a 6 to 8 pin adapter and put in a RX 6600 over a RTX 3050. The PCIe 3.0 hit is minimal and the performance gain is minimal. Many RX 6600s are actually limited to 100W by default. If you have an even tighter budget a used 1660 Ti/Super would save you even more.
the 6/8pin cable is the primary source of power for those cards. the gpu draws the maximum amount of watts from the 6/8pin cable then fills the remaining wattage needed using the pcie slot, not the opposite.
I just want to say that there's NOTHING dodgey about using the 6-pin to 8-pin adapters. Both the 6-pin and 8-pin have the same amount of 12v terminals and are rated for the same current. The extra two pins are just grounds for arbitrary sensing specifications. The 400 watt PSU that come in these are quite good and more than enough to power any single 8-pin GPU that makes sense to pair with an i7 7700, and that includes much better cards than a 3050.
What they said, the margin on the adapters is high, they can get away with quite a bit more than rated. It's really only about how dodgy an OEM PSU that's seen 7 years of uptime might be. I do have them come in more often failed than branded units, but still better than a white box unit.
A 2060 would be a better fit. Bottlenecking in a few games is no reason to short yourself on GPU power, especially when you are going to spend just as much on a used 3050 6GB as a 2060 6GB, perhaps more, yet the 2060 is going to be 70-80% better in rasterization. Even a 1660 Super beats a 3050 6GB by about 30%.
@@Lurch-BotThe 2060 is only 43% faster than the 3050 6GB not 70+% lol. See TechPowerUp's review. And that's with all settings at Ultra when you'd normally run this card at Med-Hi, where lower end GPUs catch up a little, so maybe 30-40%.
G'day Random, For most people a build like this is plenty, for alternatives rather than dropping from 3050 to a 1650 a 1060 has 6pin PCIe & would still make a good combo for most games. Or as you mentioned at the start get a 6pin - 8pin PCIe Adapter for way more GPU options, the 6pin - 8pin PCIe adapters are not really a "Dodgy Fix" as all it does pass through the 3x 12v + add the Extra Earth & Sense pins so less chance of it Melting than the nVIDIA 12+4pin on 4090.
I picked up a Optiplex 7040 as part of a bundle the other day. The best thing I love is that parts have gotten cheap, only needed ram. Probably will stick a WX2100 off eBay in it for $22
That ain't bad for the price, and a 3050 with no extra power connectors is decent too. I got an RX6600 from CEX for £150, BUT it needs an extra 8-pin connector for the power so not much good in your build. Great video as always though!
Love these builds, especially the older and budget options hardware wise. But it would be nice to see some nicer builds, not always the typical office machines.
I recently put together a similar system. But not with a prebuild system, but with used parts, including an ASUS B250M Plus, i7 6700, 2x8 GB Ballistix 2400 c16, a GTX 1080 HOF, a 500GB SSD and a BQ PP11 600W CM. The Case is an Used CM TD 300. To my surprise, the PC runs well. I paid around €230 for the parts. Well, it's a lot of money, but if you're lucky, you can build something like that without a Dell, HP or Fujitsu office PC - without any Proprietary problems. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the British used parts prices/market, to compare it with my country. In Time Spy scored the System 6997 Points (CPU 4439, GPU 7790)
I personally built my kids a couple of machines on dell precision t3610 and myself a budget workstation out of a t5610 They support dual 6 pin GPUs out of the box but with just a cable swap you can get an 8 and 6 pin out of it(dual 8 pins are possible but not with all PSU options) I picked them up for 25 each All 3 had 16gb in them mine got upgraded to 64gb(ddr3 server ram is dirt cheap) Theirs got a single e5 2667 v2 (8c16t at up to 4.0ghz) mine got a pair of them Their machines got rx 6600s and mine got an rx 6700 No nvme boot support unfortunately but with an add in card I was able to use one for games on mine and I just used sata for everything on theirs. I’ve even played starfield on mine @ around 40 fps @1600p
would it possible to see a video on what you would pair with a xeon 2125 i recently got a dell precision 5820 and i was thinking of doing it up a little, cool video by the way
i put together a £250 build recently , used a i5 10500 (£50) , gigabyte b series mobo (£50) , thermaltake case (£40) , Gtx 1060 6gb (£25) bargain) , coolermaster ml240 aio (£67) 16gb ddr4 (£21) , & then got the storage , o.s & PSU from another old build i had laying around ... genuinley solid little build for the money & a okay base to upgrade from if needed in future
Love it, I've got a similarly specced build I'm about to pull the trigger on since someone gave me a free Ryzen 5 CPU a while back and so it''ll be my new living room PC for stuff like streaming and Minecraft.
Love me the i7 7700 I have one right now with a GTX 650 Ti (my 960 broke recently and already had this) Looking at getting a 2060 Super soon to throw in and a new case
Intel 7th gen systems are only going to get cheaper as Win10 enters its final year of support in October, the i7 is probably the best budget build if you are fully aware of what you are getting into.
I still think it's possible Microsoft relents and lowers Win11 requirements as people don't shift away from Win10 fast enough. They have a history of trying to push everyone to upgrade. So, right now, before they do this, is the best time to look into these machines.
Just so you know, a 6 Pin to 8 Pin PCIe adapter just adds 2 ground pins. If you felt like you could squeeze in a certain GPU with a 400W PSU (what this is afaik), then any single 8 pin card could've worked out.
There is something neat about prebuilds. I actually rather like the idea of a SFF dell optiplex rocking a LP GPU as a neat gaming setup for not too much money.
These off lease OEM workstations are often a steal. I've been picking up the 8th and 9th gen models, since most can run ReBAR wit a bit of bios modding. That with a 1070, 1660 Ti, 3050, 6600, etc. will get the job done cheap.
If on a budget one thing I can add is, that if you have free time and you understand basic things about software and hardware you can squeeze alot more performance from the computer (especially if using Windows). I have i7 4770k, rx 580 and 16gb DDR3 2400MHz memory and I get better fps in some of those titles. In cs 1080p 170-220fps in competitive matches and 150-200 in deathmatches. Cyberpunk 1440p. about 40-50fps with medium to high settings. I modified the bios to support rebar, cpu is oc to 4.7ghz and gpu is at 1437mhz and memory at 2200mhz. Everything in Wiindows is cleaned, no anti-viruses and alot of optimizations (real ones no youtube bs). You just have to take care of the machine and it's also alot more fun when you make something that it's not supposed to run well, to actually do.
@@javelin1423 Most of it is basic things. Most of the optimization guides on RUclips make it seem like there is some majic setting that would change everything, there is not. Some of the things I did, is dissalbing spectre and meltdown protections, but you should check if they have impact on your cpu, becouse they affect performance only on older cpus. I also dissable every startup app, permanently stop updates from group policy editor so the updates happen only when I want to and dissable real time protection when in games. You can also dissable every notification (don't use programs for that) from windows, becouse it affects older systems. If on amd gpu, you should install drivers only, as adrenaline software is full of very demanding extras. Stop every program before going into games (some people don't do it). There is alot more small things, that I can't remember on the top of my head. Sorry for my English, it sucks.
I got lucky on cex one time, £100 for a custom ryzen with a 1800x 16gb ram, 256sdd and some basic video card. Then I got a rtx 2060s for 180 from cex too, so basicly got 1440p/1080p pc for 280. It's always good to keep a eye out.
I found a t130 with a skylake 8 thread CPU for 80ish shipped. That is a full on PC build with 16GB and no storage. Throw in a SSD and a GPU and you are good to go! Unless you want more psu power but most of these servers / large workstations come with a decent psu.
A while back I got an HP Z240 motherboard combo with a xeon e3-1230 v5 and 16gb ddr4 for about $32. I was able to recase it pretty easily and it works great with an RX 580! Surprisingly solid motherboard. The TPM can be updated to 2.0 which is pretty cool. Runs windows 11 great.
Should have gone with an HP Z440 model at the same price instead. Half of the point in using these old Workstations is to get Quad-Channel RAM... Plus you would get a Xeon with more cores and more PCIe lanes, higher wattage PSU, more expansion, more everything. The 240 is really just a little office PC imposter of the bigger Z series Workstations. Dual-channel RAM is a huge limitation.
Still rocking Z240 as the current PC of my own. Mine is with Xeon E3-1225 V5 (Skylake-S generation, range of i5-6500/i5-7400), 32GB of RAM (2133MT/s 4x8GB sticks bought second hand), 2TB of storage (480GB SATA SSD+ 500GB & 1TB HDD combo), 2.5Gbit NIC and Quadro T600 4GB which is fine for me as most of work is lightweight gaming (newer games at 720p low, older AAA titles on 720p. medium/high or even 1080p depending on game), bit of coding and video editing (NVENC helps in this situations, thanks DaVinci Resolve). Hoping to replace this PC by end of the year with new one (full AMD rig including Radeon GPU) as this PC will get into the server role, the current home-lab server is dying piece by piece and thankfully it will stay alive until a new workstation is built. P.S.: Z240 can run Windows 11, just need in Rufus enable disable check for TPM and CPU compatibility, mine is driving Windows 11 from first developer release.
I built a family member a PC from new/used parts-3mo case XPG valor mesh 30 eur,R5 3600 60 eur,Vega 56 reference(used lightly in company for 2 years) 65 eur,new A520(guy got it as a prize brand new) 40 eur,2x4gb 2666 15 eur,new CPU cooler 8 eur(ali exprs),new PSU MSI MAG A650BN(gold tierlist C rank) 65 eur and he has SSD.all total 275 eur-and told him to get a 1080p 100hz monitor when he saves.I think i got some great deals and great bfb.
Ive recently built one from a dell precision t5810 pre built,the pc specs r a xeon 2680 v4,ddr4 2400mhz ram,500gb Samsung ssd, 2tb seagate 7200rpm hdd and a 685w psu all cost me £75 on ebay and put a rx 6600xt which cost me £155,it can play games perfectly at 1080p high settings over 120fps and around 90 to 100 fps on 1440p medium to high and can do 4k on some games.
Funnily enough I was browsing ebay for a cheap worksatation as a base and found HP Z420 with E5 1650 for between £100-£150. I think that would be a better baseline, no? But love these budget builds!
Personally to bring costs down if you're using a Z240 for a budget machine I'd save a significant going for one of the Xeon machines notably the Xeon E3-1240 V6 which you can find in machines on ebay for roughly £80 (32gb DDR4, no drives or GPU) and will perform similarly to the i7 without paying the "it has an i7 Tax". But for sure looking at pre-builts you can snag some real bargains.
I have a i7 6700 and a gtx 1080. I fell like my system is at this level. I built it back in 2016 when it was relatively high end. Can't wait to upgrade, ideally I Wana see the 5000 series and next Ryzenx3ds come out.
It's a good build, personally I'd most likely have gone with a 1060 6GB or something similar, because IMO the RTX 3050 6GB is overpriced for what it does. That said, if you end up with a Prebuild without even a 6 pin connector, there might not be any viable alternatives (psu swap aside).
I feel like the RTX 3050 6 GB was sort of a weird choice here - except for DLSS the GTX 1060 6 GB performs about the same and sells for $100 less at least. A lot of them have a 6 pin adapter so that wouldn't be an issue in a system like this. Given that the goal is simple and cheap spending a fair bit extra for a GPU designed for systems with a truly weak PSU like the RTX 3050 6 GB feels unnecessary.
I had a 6700K @ Stock with a GTX 1080 and the CPU didn't hold back the GPU at all @ 1080p. So I reckon you may have been able to go for a better GPU with that i7 7700, although getting one that needs no extra power connector, that's a different ball game.
You should have went with an 8GB RTX 3050. It uses a 6-pin power connector. I have one myself. I Got it brand new from Amazon for $180. Had the original factory seal, packaging, and the A/V output protective caps.
That 6GB 3050 is a good card that sadly is way overpriced. If you look around the GPUs with similar performance you'll find better deals (someone already mentioned the 1060 and there's also the RX 580 for way cheaper)
I got lucky recently with a HP Pavillion Power PC from Cex, i7 7700, 16gb DDR4, 500GB SSD for £135 but turns out it also included a GTX 1060 3GB and a 1TB HDD not mentioned in the description. Also bagged a Rx 5500 XT on eBay for £75 so may pair it with a psu for a total of £260 for a solid gaming pc.
i wouldve gone for a card with a max 150w tdp and a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter, 1070 and 1660ti work well for this usage and can easily be found for under £100
The 3050 6GB is a total waste of money. A 1660 Super is 30% more powerful and cheaper. And trying to run RT on a 3050 is not going to go well so it is a completely useless feature. You could put a 3060 12GB in this workstation if you're going to run at 1440p.
gracias ! de verdad muchísimas gracias por mostrar esta combinación ! , era algo que tenia en mente para actualizar la mía sin gastas tanto y sin complicarme la vida al cambiar mi fuente de poder sff,
Pricing aside, the RTX 3050 6GB has decent 1080p performance, and bonus of not needing an 8-pin supplemental power cable. This pc would be a great gaming rig for the kiddies for their ‘free to play’ titles and some newer non-UE5 titles 💪👍😉🥰
Tbh if going for the 3050 6gb version I would go for the low profile and look for a low profile office pc with similar specs to put it in. But I'm also a sucker for mini pcs and am greatly attracted in the direction of a ThinkStation P330 and putting a T1000 in it.
ive got an sff hp elitedesk with the low profile 6gb 3050 and an i7-6700. does fine, did just finish uncharted on it with ultra settings at 30fps locked 1050p, same with shadow of the tomb raider, as someone who enjoys 30fps its alright.. but seeing that indiana jones will require better hardware, i may need to upgrade.
I have an older HP and one of the benefits is you have the OEM licence tied to the BIOS which saves you £100 or so on Windows. But did yours come with Office installed?
Recently got a Z230 with Xeon 1246 and Quadro K2000. Again, max card you can put in is 3050 but in my case 8GB. Proprietary PSUs, motherboards and cases are terrible
Coffee mod for 8-9gen support, PSU replacement and with something like 8700 or even 9700-9900 (non k parts) or that weird Intel CC150 for not to burn VRM. All that mods can use something like 4060ti or 7700xt class cards
Or you could get an i7 4790S, H61M motherboard, Q300L OG case and some cheap thermalright ARGB fans and a controller and have a modern looking PC that weighs a third of what a Z series workstation weighs, while spending about the same (in the US, the CPU and name brand H61M MB sell for around $30 each and the OG Q300L sells for $40 on amazon. Can grab a used EVGA 500W white for around $25 and a used 16GB kit of DDR3-1600 is like $12 - DDR3-1600 substantially outperforms DDR4-2400) T The i7 4790S performs the same as the regular 4790 but uses less power and is more readily available and cheaper due to all the ones produced for enterprise use. The i7 7700 is not going to be appreciably better in gaming. Benchmark scores for single thread favor the 7700 by about 8% which might translate into 3fps in the real world. You'll also end up with a cooler running, quieter PC. The funny thing is the Quadro K2200 is the new GOAT $30 GPU and is basically a 750Ti with 4GB VRAM. Actually, the Quadro is a little more powerful. The 2060 6GB would be a better choice. It is substantially better than a 3050 6GB (like 70-80% better), go for around $120 or less currently and it is not going to be bottlenecked by either the 4790S or the 7700 in the vast majority of games. You'll be able to crank settings to the max in CS2 and get the same framerates. With something like Cyberpunk, the performance of the 2060 and the 3050 are going to be night and day. The 3050 doesn't really have the power to run RT but the 2060 can do so in playable fashion as long as you're ok with maybe 40-60fps. I would just lock it to 30 myself. Also, it is worth mentioning that a budget system like this is going to struggle with the latest games and CPU intensive titles. When you look at the CS2 CPU and GPU utilization, this is a classic case of insufficient single thread score - that is the bottleneck. It might be worth remembering that a Ryzen 5500 is less than $100 and you could get an older, used AM4 MB with BIOS flashback for around $60 if you are patient and bid on auctions. The single thread score of a Ryzen 5500 is about 25% higher than the 7700 and should be more than enough to get a 3050 to full utilization at your chosen settings in CS2. I have a 5500 and it can fully utilize both an RX6600 and 2060 6GB in Cyberpunk at 1080p. It can fully utilize those GPUs in CS2 at 1440p. IDK about 1080p because I haven't tested it. But I suspect if you max settings, it will reach full GPU utilization.
A cheaper option is the GTX 1060. Every single one I've seen is 6-pin. For more performance, then GTX 1660 Super/Ti perform about same as the RTX 3050 6GB and are cheaper used. That would've better than your suggestion. No one should buy an RTX 3050 6GB new for even for a cheap build unless you're an enthusiast or you really need a "powerful" GPU that does not need power connectors. You had a 6-pin available, so no need for this GPU. Still good video though. These HP prebuilts are better than Optiplexes imo. I just wouldn't recommend the choice in GPU.
Please stop using upscaling when you are already cpu limited, like in starfield, try to max the gpu at all times, the fps will be the same, but quality will be better. Saying it hits 40 fps on dlss balanced when it could still hit the same 40 on dlss quality
I've run adapter cables for years in various upgrades and builds and never ever had a single issue with one. They make a cost effective away to get a better gpu into a system. Just don't buy em from china/ali express you'll be fine. They are not dodgy.
Personally, I think going with a used 1660(ti/super) might have been the better option. Faster than the 3050 6gb, and typically 80-100 dollars in my area. I believe some models use a 6 pin but I might be mistaken, but buying a 6 to 8 pin adapter is simple and not really that sketch imo.
Seeing as the CPU in the Xbox one x is an eight core AMD pre-zen architecture, I'd be surprised if RDR2 wouldn't run on a PC with equivalent settings as long as the GPU is somewhat recent and the CPU is sandy bridge i5 2500k or zen 1 Ryzen 5 1600
I would just rtss lock solo games to 30fps to get a solid frametime and spent time on graphicals setting to start to optimize because in this case it would be worth it . I guess that would end up a better than PS4 experience for half the money not even including productivity capability , games price , no pay for online network access etc...
While it might end up costing slightly more, it wouldn't be too much more to grab a secondhand AM4 motherboard with a decent Ryzen 5 CPU (separate works, too, if the prices are right) and RAM, plus a brand new, cheap case, fans, and PSU rather than using that old HP and i7... Assuming the used market in your area, could even be cheaper from Facebook or something... Would offer better upgrade paths and probably better performance out of the box, too... If you can't find good deals on used parts, though, then these old OEM systems are always a decent option, but they would never be the first thing I'd look for... Edit: Should probably mention that anyone that doesn't have experience with building PCs may just want to go the OEM route for their first build, or do some research on the parts before purchasing to ensure compatibility... And when you do go to buy an item (assuming it's in person), look for damages, especially bent or missing pins on the CPU/motherboard CPU socket and give any used parts that have shrouds/covers a little shake to make sure nothing is loose inside of them, like a screw or something (that could cause a short and destroy the hardware)...
The GPU is really held back there I honestly would not pair that with anything higher than an RX5600 XT or an RTX 2060 and that is already slightly beyond to what the CPU could handle best case would still be a GTX1070/1080 or a Vega 64/56.
This is the way. Out of defensiveness from the new PS5 price I've seen loads of posts making fun of PC owners for needing a £3000 box to compete with the consoles - but the truth is most of us are gaming happily on machines like this that cost less than £300, myself included.
Nothing against the build, as performance is quite good. I would advise to go with an 8th gen or newer though, as those support Win 11 past 10s expiration date, this time next year. So, I guess an i5 8400/8500 or whatever is available on these machines.
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@RandomGaminginHD did you vote brexit
I am curious about his brexit stance as well,@@abaialsa712
Hey @@RandomGaminginHD do you think you could make that beast even better at a lower price? I'd be curious to see an "upgrade" with an RX5600XT.
It has always been an underrated GPU no one talks about! Thanks to that, the price/performance ratio destroys everything.
It might outperform the 3050 for half the cost.
@@abaialsa712 he doesnt come across as that amazingly stupid, so lets assume no - also, you wont be getting a reply, I Imagine.
There’s something comfortable and sleek about it these office PC internal upgrades. Like a 5-year employee that’s got himself a pay raise and a bigger cubicle next to the window. Just nice.
Yeah :)
I actually did something like this at a previous job: it was a Dell with an i7 4770, no GPU and an HDD. I sneakily bought an SSD, cloned the drive and put a 1050Ti in it. It was like a completely different system. I just wish I was able to game on it a little haha.
Love these simple oem towers. Looks clean
i miss the days of the 35$ random pc casese the shops used to have back in the early 2000's
I wish there were more options like that. It's either those super cheap things, or RGB window stuff.
@@homelessEh yeah no shit lol, nowadays a crappy case thats worse then those 35 dollar cases is 100 bucks. I got a corsair case with a glass window for 50 bucks but that was used not new.I mean it was used for a few months so it wasnt new new but close enough. ive even resorted to buying cheap case fans from Rosewill compared to Corsair OR nzxt.I kid you not, the computer I use is a pre-built.I got it when the gpu craze for bitmining was there.I got it for 400 without a gpu but its not all that bad, i5-11400, 16 gigs of ram, an rx 6600(which I got later) and a 512gb nvme drive and a 1 tb ssd drive. for 1080p isnt bad. luckily I live next to a rich ass neighborhood. I picked up my 26" 1080p monitor for 3 bucks at a garage sale
With zero front air flow
These interest me far more than an RGB 14700K RTX 4090 build. In fact half my PC gaming time seems to be taken up with tinkering and experimenting with lower end hardware. I wouldn't have it any other way. The games themselves are almost just a bonus benefit to me now.
Builds like that on RUclips are a dime a dozen and everyone does them
Builds like these prove console players don't knoe anything about pc gaming lol
I'm the same way. Rather push some old tech to the limits rather than just buy something that just works. lol. Dont get me wrong my daily driver is a fairly beefy PC but I dont use it often. I am always building a system. Right now I have been soldering stacks of these 3020 SSF motherboards to "UN-DELL" them. I'll solder the pins on the underside to allow the board to be installed in a normal case without all the dell extras and the F1 errors. it basically turns a dell proprietary board into a standard mobo so anyone can use it in a budget build. I know how to fix all the way up to 4th gen. Looking for some schematics so I can research doing it to newer boards as well.
Agreed, there's all kinds of gamming pc's you can build that are not top end and still really cool 😎
This is one of the best videos in a little while
Thanks :)
@@RandomGaminginHD I agree on that, it has an old good day feeling back in early 2000 when me and my friends usualy had to play on our family computer and the only part we would be able to touch because of budget or to avoid a kitchen pan to the head was the GPU and maybe MAYBE the ram with cool parents 😆
Back during the 2017 and then the 2020 mining boom these office machine was a GOD SEND for budget gamers. I used to run a PC shop and these machine helped out A LOT of people to game on the cheap. In 2017 it was 2nd gen I7 paired with a GTX 750ti 2GB and in 2020 it was a 4th gen I7 with a GTX 1050 or 1050ti. I sold probably close to a hundred of these being a single person operation back then. 2-300$ for some pre owned PC that can run 2-3 years old game at 1080p 60fps was a huge market back then. Too bad the pandemic and lockdown killed my shop due to most of the clientle were expat English teachers and they all went home during the lockdown and there goes my business. Didn't make a fortune back then but it is a lot more enjoyable than what I do now.
Imagine back then AM4 was a bigger thing than it was and there is a Z240 equivalent with a 500W PSU with updated BIOS that can take something like the 5700x 3d. Urgh it would be so so good.
gtx 1060 uses the 6 pin connector , they going for around 60$ and its the performance as the 3050 6 gb
Mining was booming around 2017-18 until roughly 2021. I should know - it was partially my fault. But yes, I built quite a few of these sorts of machines for people back then!
It’s cool to give a pc that would’ve been trash a new life Love these budget build videos
Great Video! I'm soon to be the very proud owner of your old Quadro K2200, its going in my Media Center PC 😁
Good purchase and a great use case for such a card! Given that it has 2x DisplayPort and 1x DVI (I think it's DVI?) you can run multiple monitors off that card if needed.
You got yourself a bargain if you did indeed only pay £20 for that card :)
This is so weird, you are number one soul brother. I just bought one of these for my daughter and the video card came in yesterday is the exact one you bought. The only differences is that mine is i7 6700 and 32gb ram. Total price in dollars was 275. Rtx 3050 was the cowards way out because the 400watt is a platinum with 194 watts on 12VDC1 rail so I figured I probably could get away with a RX6600. It would be really nice of you to try and play a few games with it to confirm (I don't have the card, I figured you did). I am sending this PC far away so I wasn't brave enough to go that route.
Nice to see this sort of build making a comeback. An alternative GPU, if you don't mind going used, is the 2060 or 2060 Super, and the Super may give you more performance. It would bring the budget down for sure. I have no idea why people paint these machines white though, or want white electronics generally... surely it would collect dirt like a magnet?! If they're that concerned about aesthetics I guess they'd be okay with wiping it down every week.
My daughter has a 6700k cpu paired with a gtx 980.....the cpu doesnt hold the gpu back at all.....having said this the 3050 seems like an excellent choice for the machine....love your content...keep it coming!!!😊
Nice. Built this week a secondary PC myself from cheap and second hand parts, had a GTX 1650 laying around and noticed that you can get a new b450 for like €50 these days and old used ryzens are pretty cheap as well. The codeword was future upgradeability, so PSU ended up being the most expensive component, though as a 550W Seasonic model it's hardly powerful enough to run anything past midrange. As my "new" CPU was too old for Windows 11, it has also been a good excuse to learn how to use Linux again.
Also the first computer I've built from scratch, so kinda rite of passage for me. Before I've only used OEM machines.
nice video as always. I'm searching GPUs that fit the bill like the 3050 you showed up. This is inspiring.
great video ! with the 6pin cable, you can go with the gtx1650super which is a lil bit weaker than the rtx3050 6gb for very cheap. i guess it's the perfect pairing for such a budget gaming pc
I built an 8600k used system lately
"8600k:63$ (used)MSI Z370:70$ (used)32 GB 3200mhz memory:54$ (used)"
Tossed in a 6650xt, although I felt a bit scammed when I realized the memory and PCI is gimped on this card. I was only skimming through benchmarks and didnt realize 😂😅
Still its performing like a champ for me. Actual output very good, I play bannerlord, Hoi4, gunfire reborn, get perfect performance
8x pci e is still nowhere near as gimped as their lower end 6400 and 6500XT. It's probably a 2-5% hit, whereas the 4x cards can get a 20-40% hit on PCI EX GEN 3.
My man, you are creating content from my browser history. 😂
I am using a Lenovo 720 paired with a i5-7600k, some “buddy deal” RAM and SSD. I am currently researching 3050/3060/etc., as the Lenovo I’m using was nice enough to include a 6/8pin output from the 400w PSU.
Keep up the great work, you’re guiding me to shepherd my kiddos into PC gaming. 💯
I used a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter or just plugged a 6-pin into a 8-pin GPU directly without adapter on some of my lower end builds and they work fine as long as you do not draw higher than 75W over the 6-pin. A RX 6600 has a tdp of 132W and 75W is already supplied over PCI-E so only 52W goes over the wiring. Just dont install a GPU with a TDP over 150W if you want to be safe. A GTX 1070 or RX 570 is 150W is good because 75W goes through the slot and 75W through the 8-pin. Also some 8-pin GPU's do not require an adapter at all and will work fine with a 6-pin plugged in directly. So try this first before buying an adapter.
I used for example 960 (120) and found with GPU Z that the PCIE Slot does not automatically uses all the 75W meaning I had only about 50 though the PCIE slot and 70 though the 6 pin
@@fabsenbmx Yes it depends on the GPU and PSU. If you are using a good quality PSU you should still be fine being 10-20W over spec but if you have a $20 Diablotek 250W PSU you better bring the fire extinguisher along.
I remember a video once (albeit not by RGinHD) where someone went from SATA power to 6 pin then 6 pin to 8 pin in order to get a GPU working on some sort of OEM PC (because that's all that could be used). It wasn't retty, and certainly not something I'd do.
There are some GPUs that have a single 6 pin connector, which is what I'd do if I didn't want adapters. (with a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter you could use something like an RTX 2060)
Agreed, I would use a 6 to 8 pin adapter and put in a RX 6600 over a RTX 3050. The PCIe 3.0 hit is minimal and the performance gain is minimal. Many RX 6600s are actually limited to 100W by default.
If you have an even tighter budget a used 1660 Ti/Super would save you even more.
the 6/8pin cable is the primary source of power for those cards. the gpu draws the maximum amount of watts from the 6/8pin cable then fills the remaining wattage needed using the pcie slot, not the opposite.
I really like the (slightly weird!) pairing of the CPU/GPU in this build. And the combined power consumption is really low. Great stuff
I just want to say that there's NOTHING dodgey about using the 6-pin to 8-pin adapters. Both the 6-pin and 8-pin have the same amount of 12v terminals and are rated for the same current. The extra two pins are just grounds for arbitrary sensing specifications. The 400 watt PSU that come in these are quite good and more than enough to power any single 8-pin GPU that makes sense to pair with an i7 7700, and that includes much better cards than a 3050.
Plus add a molex to 8 pin adapter to increase your choice of cards at least by 1 tier.
What they said, the margin on the adapters is high, they can get away with quite a bit more than rated. It's really only about how dodgy an OEM PSU that's seen 7 years of uptime might be. I do have them come in more often failed than branded units, but still better than a white box unit.
A 2060 would be a better fit. Bottlenecking in a few games is no reason to short yourself on GPU power, especially when you are going to spend just as much on a used 3050 6GB as a 2060 6GB, perhaps more, yet the 2060 is going to be 70-80% better in rasterization. Even a 1660 Super beats a 3050 6GB by about 30%.
@@Lurch-BotThe 2060 is only 43% faster than the 3050 6GB not 70+% lol. See TechPowerUp's review. And that's with all settings at Ultra when you'd normally run this card at Med-Hi, where lower end GPUs catch up a little, so maybe 30-40%.
A 1070 or 1080 would've been the better choice. Maybe a 2070 or RX 5700 XT (although this one, I'd worry about a bit)
I'm currently working on a Z440, myself. Looks like a lot of fun.
G'day Random,
For most people a build like this is plenty, for alternatives rather than dropping from 3050 to a 1650 a 1060 has 6pin PCIe & would still make a good combo for most games.
Or as you mentioned at the start get a 6pin - 8pin PCIe Adapter for way more GPU options, the 6pin - 8pin PCIe adapters are not really a "Dodgy Fix" as all it does pass through the 3x 12v + add the Extra Earth & Sense pins so less chance of it Melting than the nVIDIA 12+4pin on 4090.
I have this pc but I've got the e3 1270v5 paired with a rx 580, and its been running over a year now without any problems. games really well love it.
I picked up a Optiplex 7040 as part of a bundle the other day.
The best thing I love is that parts have gotten cheap, only needed ram.
Probably will stick a WX2100 off eBay in it for $22
What a PC specs you build again w/ ready to upgrade for future some of the parts of it as new standard but in limited options! More to come! TY!
Do the hp elite desk 800 gen 2 tower pc with an rx 580 next🙏🏻.Great vid btw❤
Been waiting to see this exact video haha. I got an old i7 laying around. It's got an rx 6400 in it, been wondering about this combo.
That ain't bad for the price, and a 3050 with no extra power connectors is decent too. I got an RX6600 from CEX for £150, BUT it needs an extra 8-pin connector for the power so not much good in your build. Great video as always though!
Love these builds, especially the older and budget options hardware wise. But it would be nice to see some nicer builds, not always the typical office machines.
I recently put together a similar system. But not with a prebuild system, but with used parts, including an ASUS B250M Plus, i7 6700, 2x8 GB Ballistix 2400 c16, a GTX 1080 HOF, a 500GB SSD and a BQ PP11 600W CM. The Case is an Used CM TD 300. To my surprise, the PC runs well. I paid around €230 for the parts. Well, it's a lot of money, but if you're lucky, you can build something like that without a Dell, HP or Fujitsu office PC - without any Proprietary problems. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the British used parts prices/market, to compare it with my country. In Time Spy scored the System 6997 Points (CPU 4439, GPU 7790)
I personally built my kids a couple of machines on dell precision t3610 and myself a budget workstation out of a t5610
They support dual 6 pin GPUs out of the box but with just a cable swap you can get an 8 and 6 pin out of it(dual 8 pins are possible but not with all PSU options)
I picked them up for 25 each
All 3 had 16gb in them mine got upgraded to 64gb(ddr3 server ram is dirt cheap)
Theirs got a single e5 2667 v2 (8c16t at up to 4.0ghz) mine got a pair of them
Their machines got rx 6600s and mine got an rx 6700
No nvme boot support unfortunately but with an add in card I was able to use one for games on mine and I just used sata for everything on theirs. I’ve even played starfield on mine @ around 40 fps @1600p
would it possible to see a video on what you would pair with a xeon 2125 i recently got a dell precision 5820 and i was thinking of doing it up a little, cool video by the way
i put together a £250 build recently , used a i5 10500 (£50) , gigabyte b series mobo (£50) , thermaltake case (£40) , Gtx 1060 6gb (£25) bargain) , coolermaster ml240 aio (£67) 16gb ddr4 (£21) , & then got the storage , o.s & PSU from another old build i had laying around ... genuinley solid little build for the money & a okay base to upgrade from if needed in future
Nice :)
You could also buy a pre owned system of similar spec from CEX 👍🏻
Love it, I've got a similarly specced build I'm about to pull the trigger on since someone gave me a free Ryzen 5 CPU a while back and so it''ll be my new living room PC for stuff like streaming and Minecraft.
*Great little build*
Be a great pc for someone just getting into pc gaming for that price and it ran better than i thought.
Love me the i7 7700
I have one right now with a GTX 650 Ti (my 960 broke recently and already had this)
Looking at getting a 2060 Super soon to throw in and a new case
Intel 7th gen systems are only going to get cheaper as Win10 enters its final year of support in October, the i7 is probably the best budget build if you are fully aware of what you are getting into.
Yeah for sure
I still think it's possible Microsoft relents and lowers Win11 requirements as people don't shift away from Win10 fast enough. They have a history of trying to push everyone to upgrade.
So, right now, before they do this, is the best time to look into these machines.
Please also test future pcs with minecraft shaders preferrably seus ptgi and rethinking voxels! ❤
Just so you know, a 6 Pin to 8 Pin PCIe adapter just adds 2 ground pins. If you felt like you could squeeze in a certain GPU with a 400W PSU (what this is afaik), then any single 8 pin card could've worked out.
There is something neat about prebuilds. I actually rather like the idea of a SFF dell optiplex rocking a LP GPU as a neat gaming setup for not too much money.
These off lease OEM workstations are often a steal. I've been picking up the 8th and 9th gen models, since most can run ReBAR wit a bit of bios modding. That with a 1070, 1660 Ti, 3050, 6600, etc. will get the job done cheap.
Wished someone wrote a ReBAR bios for my SFF Z230! The only hacked bios I have found for this board is to use a M.2 NVME 😥
Neither 1070 or 1660 ti can use rebar.
@niebuhr6197 I didn't say they could, you're confused. Also ReBAR can be used on 1600 cards with modification, also 2000 series.
@@drewnewby oh yes rebar works on 1600, by the same method as 2000. I was thinking about some dlss mods that explicitly required 2000 minimum.
If on a budget one thing I can add is, that if you have free time and you understand basic things about software and hardware you can squeeze alot more performance from the computer (especially if using Windows). I have i7 4770k, rx 580 and 16gb DDR3 2400MHz memory and I get better fps in some of those titles. In cs 1080p 170-220fps in competitive matches and 150-200 in deathmatches. Cyberpunk 1440p. about 40-50fps with medium to high settings. I modified the bios to support rebar, cpu is oc to 4.7ghz and gpu is at 1437mhz and memory at 2200mhz. Everything in Wiindows is cleaned, no anti-viruses and alot of optimizations (real ones no youtube bs). You just have to take care of the machine and it's also alot more fun when you make something that it's not supposed to run well, to actually do.
An rx 580 only runs Cyberpunk at 40fps medium settings 1080p, so worse than this gpu. You are using fsr performance, no sheet Sherlock
I don't suppose you could share those optimization would you? i dont mind learning something new
@@niebuhr6197 I don't use fsr as it causes ghosting, John.
@@javelin1423 Most of it is basic things. Most of the optimization guides on RUclips make it seem like there is some majic setting that would change everything, there is not. Some of the things I did, is dissalbing spectre and meltdown protections, but you should check if they have impact on your cpu, becouse they affect performance only on older cpus. I also dissable every startup app, permanently stop updates from group policy editor so the updates happen only when I want to and dissable real time protection when in games. You can also dissable every notification (don't use programs for that) from windows, becouse it affects older systems. If on amd gpu, you should install drivers only, as adrenaline software is full of very demanding extras. Stop every program before going into games (some people don't do it). There is alot more small things, that I can't remember on the top of my head. Sorry for my English, it sucks.
@@MartinKarov-l8o ok, xess ultra performance scaling or so.
These sorts of workstation like cases are always the best to me, but 99.99% cannot do two thick 420's, and this makes me cry.
I got lucky on cex one time, £100 for a custom ryzen with a 1800x 16gb ram, 256sdd and some basic video card. Then I got a rtx 2060s for 180 from cex too, so basicly got 1440p/1080p pc for 280. It's always good to keep a eye out.
Long time fan of the channel, I recently moved to UK, where are the go to places to buy pc parts other than amazon?
I found a t130 with a skylake 8 thread CPU for 80ish shipped. That is a full on PC build with 16GB and no storage. Throw in a SSD and a GPU and you are good to go! Unless you want more psu power but most of these servers / large workstations come with a decent psu.
A while back I got an HP Z240 motherboard combo with a xeon e3-1230 v5 and 16gb ddr4 for about $32. I was able to recase it pretty easily and it works great with an RX 580! Surprisingly solid motherboard. The TPM can be updated to 2.0 which is pretty cool. Runs windows 11 great.
Should have gone with an HP Z440 model at the same price instead. Half of the point in using these old Workstations is to get Quad-Channel RAM... Plus you would get a Xeon with more cores and more PCIe lanes, higher wattage PSU, more expansion, more everything.
The 240 is really just a little office PC imposter of the bigger Z series Workstations. Dual-channel RAM is a huge limitation.
Still rocking Z240 as the current PC of my own. Mine is with Xeon E3-1225 V5 (Skylake-S generation, range of i5-6500/i5-7400), 32GB of RAM (2133MT/s 4x8GB sticks bought second hand), 2TB of storage (480GB SATA SSD+ 500GB & 1TB HDD combo), 2.5Gbit NIC and Quadro T600 4GB which is fine for me as most of work is lightweight gaming (newer games at 720p low, older AAA titles on 720p. medium/high or even 1080p depending on game), bit of coding and video editing (NVENC helps in this situations, thanks DaVinci Resolve). Hoping to replace this PC by end of the year with new one (full AMD rig including Radeon GPU) as this PC will get into the server role, the current home-lab server is dying piece by piece and thankfully it will stay alive until a new workstation is built.
P.S.: Z240 can run Windows 11, just need in Rufus enable disable check for TPM and CPU compatibility, mine is driving Windows 11 from first developer release.
I built a family member a PC from new/used parts-3mo case XPG valor mesh 30 eur,R5 3600 60 eur,Vega 56 reference(used lightly in company for 2 years) 65 eur,new A520(guy got it as a prize brand new) 40 eur,2x4gb 2666 15 eur,new CPU cooler 8 eur(ali exprs),new PSU MSI MAG A650BN(gold tierlist C rank) 65 eur and he has SSD.all total 275 eur-and told him to get a 1080p 100hz monitor when he saves.I think i got some great deals and great bfb.
Ive recently built one from a dell precision t5810 pre built,the pc specs r a xeon 2680 v4,ddr4 2400mhz ram,500gb Samsung ssd, 2tb seagate 7200rpm hdd and a 685w psu all cost me £75 on ebay and put a rx 6600xt which cost me £155,it can play games perfectly at 1080p high settings over 120fps and around 90 to 100 fps on 1440p medium to high and can do 4k on some games.
Funnily enough I was browsing ebay for a cheap worksatation as a base and found HP Z420 with E5 1650 for between £100-£150. I think that would be a better baseline, no?
But love these budget builds!
Personally to bring costs down if you're using a Z240 for a budget machine I'd save a significant going for one of the Xeon machines notably the Xeon E3-1240 V6 which you can find in machines on ebay for roughly £80 (32gb DDR4, no drives or GPU) and will perform similarly to the i7 without paying the "it has an i7 Tax". But for sure looking at pre-builts you can snag some real bargains.
I have a i7 6700 and a gtx 1080. I fell like my system is at this level. I built it back in 2016 when it was relatively high end. Can't wait to upgrade, ideally I Wana see the 5000 series and next Ryzenx3ds come out.
It's a good build, personally I'd most likely have gone with a 1060 6GB or something similar, because IMO the RTX 3050 6GB is overpriced for what it does.
That said, if you end up with a Prebuild without even a 6 pin connector, there might not be any viable alternatives (psu swap aside).
I feel like the RTX 3050 6 GB was sort of a weird choice here - except for DLSS the GTX 1060 6 GB performs about the same and sells for $100 less at least. A lot of them have a 6 pin adapter so that wouldn't be an issue in a system like this. Given that the goal is simple and cheap spending a fair bit extra for a GPU designed for systems with a truly weak PSU like the RTX 3050 6 GB feels unnecessary.
Are you planning to do any content around eGPU and oculink to NVME?
Especially with older laptops without a dedicated GPU.
Another similar priced pc: used ryzen 5 2600 + mobo + 32gb ram
Gtx 1060
Used psu (trusted brand/model)
1tb m.2 kingston nv2
Old case
I would still go for the rx6600 tho. Find an adapter, especially if you find the xfx model. It's small and locked at 100w
I had a 6700K @ Stock with a GTX 1080 and the CPU didn't hold back the GPU at all @ 1080p. So I reckon you may have been able to go for a better GPU with that i7 7700, although getting one that needs no extra power connector, that's a different ball game.
Arc a310 can also work without connector but the only use case for that would be av1 encoding
Plus without rebar it would be pretty bad
I remember them not doing so good on older sistems
@@RandomGaminginHDyea your right 👍🏻
You should have went with an 8GB RTX 3050. It uses a 6-pin power connector. I have one myself. I Got it brand new from Amazon for $180. Had the original factory seal, packaging, and the A/V output protective caps.
Those SATA connectors in the middle of the motherboard are silly. What were they thinkinh at the time?.
That 6GB 3050 is a good card that sadly is way overpriced. If you look around the GPUs with similar performance you'll find better deals (someone already mentioned the 1060 and there's also the RX 580 for way cheaper)
what people seem to forget is that they can undervolt their cpu and gpu for lower temps and power usage.
Chill vibes
I got lucky recently with a HP Pavillion Power PC from Cex, i7 7700, 16gb DDR4, 500GB SSD for £135 but turns out it also included a GTX 1060 3GB and a 1TB HDD not mentioned in the description. Also bagged a Rx 5500 XT on eBay for £75 so may pair it with a psu for a total of £260 for a solid gaming pc.
i wouldve gone for a card with a max 150w tdp and a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter, 1070 and 1660ti work well for this usage and can easily be found for under £100
1660s or ti is a great shout, I'm seeing supers for less than 100 more and more
The 3050 6GB is a total waste of money. A 1660 Super is 30% more powerful and cheaper. And trying to run RT on a 3050 is not going to go well so it is a completely useless feature. You could put a 3060 12GB in this workstation if you're going to run at 1440p.
gracias ! de verdad muchísimas gracias por mostrar esta combinación ! , era algo que tenia en mente para actualizar la mía sin gastas tanto y sin complicarme la vida al cambiar mi fuente de poder sff,
Pricing aside, the RTX 3050 6GB has decent 1080p performance, and bonus of not needing an 8-pin supplemental power cable. This pc would be a great gaming rig for the kiddies for their ‘free to play’ titles and some newer non-UE5 titles 💪👍😉🥰
Tbh if going for the 3050 6gb version I would go for the low profile and look for a low profile office pc with similar specs to put it in. But I'm also a sucker for mini pcs and am greatly attracted in the direction of a ThinkStation P330 and putting a T1000 in it.
ive got an sff hp elitedesk with the low profile 6gb 3050 and an i7-6700. does fine, did just finish uncharted on it with ultra settings at 30fps locked 1050p, same with shadow of the tomb raider, as someone who enjoys 30fps its alright.. but seeing that indiana jones will require better hardware, i may need to upgrade.
The i7-8700 is a good option as well as early Ryzen. So many to choose from like say an old HP with a 2200G and then whack a 2600 or 2700 in it.
I have an older HP and one of the benefits is you have the OEM licence tied to the BIOS which saves you £100 or so on Windows. But did yours come with Office installed?
These 4 core HT office computers paired with a GTX 1060 6GB is in my opinion the ultimate budget gaming machine!
Recently got a Z230 with Xeon 1246 and Quadro K2000. Again, max card you can put in is 3050 but in my case 8GB. Proprietary PSUs, motherboards and cases are terrible
Coffee mod for 8-9gen support, PSU replacement and with something like 8700 or even 9700-9900 (non k parts) or that weird Intel CC150 for not to burn VRM. All that mods can use something like 4060ti or 7700xt class cards
Or you could get an i7 4790S, H61M motherboard, Q300L OG case and some cheap thermalright ARGB fans and a controller and have a modern looking PC that weighs a third of what a Z series workstation weighs, while spending about the same (in the US, the CPU and name brand H61M MB sell for around $30 each and the OG Q300L sells for $40 on amazon. Can grab a used EVGA 500W white for around $25 and a used 16GB kit of DDR3-1600 is like $12 - DDR3-1600 substantially outperforms DDR4-2400) T
The i7 4790S performs the same as the regular 4790 but uses less power and is more readily available and cheaper due to all the ones produced for enterprise use. The i7 7700 is not going to be appreciably better in gaming. Benchmark scores for single thread favor the 7700 by about 8% which might translate into 3fps in the real world. You'll also end up with a cooler running, quieter PC.
The funny thing is the Quadro K2200 is the new GOAT $30 GPU and is basically a 750Ti with 4GB VRAM. Actually, the Quadro is a little more powerful.
The 2060 6GB would be a better choice. It is substantially better than a 3050 6GB (like 70-80% better), go for around $120 or less currently and it is not going to be bottlenecked by either the 4790S or the 7700 in the vast majority of games. You'll be able to crank settings to the max in CS2 and get the same framerates. With something like Cyberpunk, the performance of the 2060 and the 3050 are going to be night and day. The 3050 doesn't really have the power to run RT but the 2060 can do so in playable fashion as long as you're ok with maybe 40-60fps. I would just lock it to 30 myself.
Also, it is worth mentioning that a budget system like this is going to struggle with the latest games and CPU intensive titles. When you look at the CS2 CPU and GPU utilization, this is a classic case of insufficient single thread score - that is the bottleneck. It might be worth remembering that a Ryzen 5500 is less than $100 and you could get an older, used AM4 MB with BIOS flashback for around $60 if you are patient and bid on auctions. The single thread score of a Ryzen 5500 is about 25% higher than the 7700 and should be more than enough to get a 3050 to full utilization at your chosen settings in CS2. I have a 5500 and it can fully utilize both an RX6600 and 2060 6GB in Cyberpunk at 1080p. It can fully utilize those GPUs in CS2 at 1440p. IDK about 1080p because I haven't tested it. But I suspect if you max settings, it will reach full GPU utilization.
dell precision t5810s are a great option. my 220$ build has overclocked all core 4.5ghz xeon 1650v3 and powercolor rx vega 56 (v64 bios)
A cheaper option is the GTX 1060. Every single one I've seen is 6-pin.
For more performance, then GTX 1660 Super/Ti perform about same as the RTX 3050 6GB and are cheaper used. That would've better than your suggestion.
No one should buy an RTX 3050 6GB new for even for a cheap build unless you're an enthusiast or you really need a "powerful" GPU that does not need power connectors. You had a 6-pin available, so no need for this GPU.
Still good video though. These HP prebuilts are better than Optiplexes imo. I just wouldn't recommend the choice in GPU.
Please compare gt 710 2gb ddr5 vs hd 630 (from i3 7th gen) please!
Those OEM pcs are very sturdy.
Starfield isn't demanding, it's unoptimized and outdated when Cyberpunk is doing much better while looking better as well.
Please stop using upscaling when you are already cpu limited, like in starfield, try to max the gpu at all times, the fps will be the same, but quality will be better. Saying it hits 40 fps on dlss balanced when it could still hit the same 40 on dlss quality
I'm currently running a 12th gen Celeron with 16GB DDR4-3200 ram and a GTX 1650 Super. Plays all my older games just fine. Cheers all and take care.
gr8 times for cheap and good pc
I've run adapter cables for years in various upgrades and builds and never ever had a single issue with one. They make a cost effective away to get a better gpu into a system. Just don't buy em from china/ali express you'll be fine. They are not dodgy.
Personally, I think going with a used 1660(ti/super) might have been the better option. Faster than the 3050 6gb, and typically 80-100 dollars in my area. I believe some models use a 6 pin but I might be mistaken, but buying a 6 to 8 pin adapter is simple and not really that sketch imo.
Seeing as the CPU in the Xbox one x is an eight core AMD pre-zen architecture, I'd be surprised if RDR2 wouldn't run on a PC with equivalent settings as long as the GPU is somewhat recent and the CPU is sandy bridge i5 2500k or zen 1 Ryzen 5 1600
I would like to suggest for CS2 benchmarks low setting, with high shadows, x2 filtering and frame gen disabled
I would just rtss lock solo games to 30fps to get a solid frametime and spent time on graphicals setting to start to optimize because in this case it would be worth it . I guess that would end up a better than PS4 experience for half the money not even including productivity capability , games price , no pay for online network access etc...
While it might end up costing slightly more, it wouldn't be too much more to grab a secondhand AM4 motherboard with a decent Ryzen 5 CPU (separate works, too, if the prices are right) and RAM, plus a brand new, cheap case, fans, and PSU rather than using that old HP and i7... Assuming the used market in your area, could even be cheaper from Facebook or something... Would offer better upgrade paths and probably better performance out of the box, too...
If you can't find good deals on used parts, though, then these old OEM systems are always a decent option, but they would never be the first thing I'd look for...
Edit: Should probably mention that anyone that doesn't have experience with building PCs may just want to go the OEM route for their first build, or do some research on the parts before purchasing to ensure compatibility... And when you do go to buy an item (assuming it's in person), look for damages, especially bent or missing pins on the CPU/motherboard CPU socket and give any used parts that have shrouds/covers a little shake to make sure nothing is loose inside of them, like a screw or something (that could cause a short and destroy the hardware)...
Isn't a Z440 barebone with a used Xeon + RX 5700 is better option?! you can build it by around £250 also.
If you get the adapter, put in a better PSU and pair that with a GPU from the I7-7700 heydays, like a 1080ti, you'd have a great start up system.
Ah that was a great combo back in the day
@@RandomGaminginHD I think 1080ti's are pretty cheap,
Good enough to play indies (for me is good enough because 90% of AAA nowdays are bad or remakes)
The GPU is really held back there I honestly would not pair that with anything higher than an RX5600 XT or an RTX 2060 and that is already slightly beyond to what the CPU could handle best case would still be a GTX1070/1080 or a Vega 64/56.
An arc a580 would've had much better performance at the same price, but this is quite fascinating too
With what PSU?? Considering they need 2x 8-pin power. And then there's the ReBar problem...
This is the way. Out of defensiveness from the new PS5 price I've seen loads of posts making fun of PC owners for needing a £3000 box to compete with the consoles - but the truth is most of us are gaming happily on machines like this that cost less than £300, myself included.
where do all of your built PC's gone..?
did you sold them?
Hey by the way if you can return the 3050-6gb and buy a low profile version, they sell for much more later on.
Nothing against the build, as performance is quite good. I would advise to go with an 8th gen or newer though, as those support Win 11 past 10s expiration date, this time next year.
So, I guess an i5 8400/8500 or whatever is available on these machines.