@@dukenukem8381 Ya but people said that about 'guns' being on aircraft at a time as well. Ironic that the F-35 wasn't designed with a gun... it has a bulge where they shoehorned a gun into the aircraft post development. lol
@@KameradVonTurnip The USAF made the F-35A requirements include it needs an inbuilt gun The US Navy and Marines did not make it a requirement and instead opted for gun pods Which historically has happened before, the USN never equipped their Phantoms with guns, nor used gunpods for A2A combat and still out performed USAF Gun armed phantoms
@@demanischaffer Sorry, but only the later E model had a built in gun in the nose. There were problems with the gun pod pylon not being rigid enough to allow accurate shooting. That is why the USAF wanted the nose gun. Plus their F-4s ended up being used for dogfighting, (along with bombing) which shaped their idea of a better Phantom. The AF was willing to adopt a smaller radar antenna, which allowed a nose gun to be fitted, something the USN was loathe to do. Fleet defense required a radar with a larger antenna dish for long distance interception, look at the F-14. What became Top Gun allowed the USN to boost their kill rate. This is to provide added information to the above.
@@Reactordrone Tell you what. head over to heritageflightgeardisplays.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/carolina-kangaroo-aussie-pilot-flying-phantoms-over-south-vietnam/ and let these former RAAF pilots know they're wrong. I'm sure they'd appreciate the heads up.
Look at the kangaroo on the F-4 in the museum, and the ones in the article. You'll notice that the ones in the article are red, while the one in the museum has a white kangaroo. Also, the one in the museum has the kangaroo on the tail, while the ones in the article are on the nose or on drop tanks.
Chieftain with planes: "This is a plane of some sort, it flew once." Chieftain, anything with tracks: "This obscure tracked cart was once fitted with an anti-tank gun, let me write a blog entry about its whole development and testing."
Is it bad that I can't ever decide if I'm a tank guy or a plane guy? I've given up trying to decide really and now I can just ID most WW2 stuff but can't tell much about it. "Gee Tom you IDed that thing from across the hangar, only seeing its cockpit and nose section. How fast did it fly?" "Uhhh... Fast enough to fly?" "Gee Tom how did you manage to be able to identify things so well but you know absolutely nothing about them?" "It has guns"
When he walked in and saw the F-22 Raptor the bird of prey above it I don't think they have two of those they were very rare very specialized Air Force reconnaissance planes not going to see two of them in one spot
The Convair F-106A Delta Dart on display there is the famous "Cornfield Bomber". In 1970 the pilot lost control & bailed out only for the Dart to land in a field suffering only minor damage & was repaired & returned to service. Very interesting story look it up!
Just popped into my head, way back when I was in my mid-teens, my parents and I went down there to Dayton. I think it was because my Dad had an appointment for something at the VA, and we ended up at the museum for the day. Anyway, my Dad started jabberjawing with some random guy and they came to the conclusion that they had probably tripped over one another at some point in Vietnam because they had served in the same area at the same time. Turned out the guy was one of the volunteers that worked on the aircraft. He took is in back and we got to crawl all over an AC-47 they were restoring at the time. That was a really cool experience. I need to drive down there soon. The place is obviously much larger than it was last time I went, and full of a lot more stuff. Very cool video. Thanks, that brought up some cool old memories...
They put all the Experimental and Presidential planes into a 4th hangar. So now you don't need to take a bus to see the YF-23, XB-70, X-29, and the various Air Force Ones
There's a P-38J at the Fagen WWII museum that's still wearing the colors of Olds' Scat III(reason it my profile pic) but I haven't gone through the records to see if it actually was his or if it even flew with the 8th AF.
Kicked out? maybe staff were informed two guys with strange accents were filming the exhibits. Therefor, spies. Thank you for this quick tour of the museum though. What you could get to see.
There is a guy with a weird accent filming everything on his phone, talking to himself and accused a pair of dummies as soviet spies. I think it's pretty obvious why he is being kicked out
YO BILLYBOB. THIS DUDE AIN'T GOT A CAN A' BUD LIGHT. WUT?! HE AIN'T GOT NO BUD LIGHT?! THIS DUDE'S A SPY YEAH! GET 'IM OUTTA HERE Note: I'm an American. I traded people not saying "you were brainwashed by the American media" whenever I say something good about an American vehicle for the opportunity to make hillbilly jokes.
The F-117 was specially restored to remove all of the special stealth materials, so I wouldn't draw any conclusions from the skin as it's displayed. They could indeed have just covered the underlying frame with kevlar or some other strong fabric and painted it black. The B-2 was a structural test model, and likely never had an "operational" exterior, too. At 23:27 you can even see some external braces under the wing that were added to make it safe for display. Also, the F-22 is actually a YF-22 prototype.
Serbs shot down an F-117 back in '99, the russians long have the "special stealth materials" from it's skin,they don't need to go to an American Museum to take pictures of it.So removing it from this plane was unnecessary.😉
Raul Alejandro Bastilla - You do realize there is a HUGE difference between the stealth on F-22 and F-35 than the very old F-117? Also having parts of an F-117 doesn't mean that Russia can copy it or know who to actually use it. Even today Russia still can't produce a true stealth aircraft. The Su-57 (which has been canceled) wasn't very stealthy.
Different B-26. The one in the last video was the Martin B-26 Marauder. The one in this video was the Douglas B-26 Invader. The confusion comes from the Invader being the A-26 during WWII and redesignated B-26 after the Marauder was retired. Special bonus neckbeardian trivia, the F-94 you showed is a B model which is Ak-Tchiually not a "Starfire". That name applies only to the F-94C model, according to Lockheed at the time.
In WW2 section was the A-26 light bomber which replaced the A-20 Havoc. The A-26 was renamed B-26 after Marauder retired. A number of B-26's were used in Korea painted all black or black on lower surfaces as night interdiction raiders. In cold war section the B-26 is a B-26K rebuilt to zero hour airframe for COIN ops by On Mark Corporation. They were used as COunter INsurgency aircraft and night interdiction in Vietnam but we're retired after a number were lost under questionable circumstances. Questions were raised about being too old and reliability issues.
.At some point, the B-26 Invaders in Vietnam were re-designated BACK to A-26, so the US could say "We Have No Bombers in SouthEast Asia" with a straight face.
one of their later migs (i forget which one) they got when a private buyer bought one, and made a mistake on some of the paperwork, and was siezed by the government (instead of giving the guy time to correct the mistake, reportedly). so in other words "stolen".
Two funny stories regarding the A-1E Skyraider (Which was usually called a "Sandy"): two achieved MiG kills when carrying a loadout of multiple Miniguns, one of the MiGs at least basically disintegrated under the fire. One pilot my dad knew sat indoors eating a sandwich while watching his "Sandy" be re-fueled by Vietnamese personnel. The tank was filled, and the hose was taken away. Some of the 110 Low-Lead dripped from the nozzle and down the wing. The Vietnamese, seeing this, and being thrifty like the old men of Menotomy who knicked the shoes from the fallen British horses, he took out his Zippo and was seen to fill it from the dripping gasoline. Satisfied that it was full, he put it back together, and, as you do, he to try to strike it. This is a most natural reflex having done so, a ritual, almost, an age-old desire to ensure the source of the fire is well in order that finds itself perhaps indifferent to or unaware of the hazards of aviation fuel. Poor pilot watches, sandwich frozen in the air, as his aeroplane and two Vietnamese ground crew are rendered down to their constituent atoms by the detonation of several hundred gallons of 110 Low-Lead. Whoops!
The 2nd F-82 Twin Mustang shown in this vid was a important record breaker. On 27 February 1947, P-82B 44-65168, named Betty Jo and flown by Colonel Robert E. Thacker, made history when it flew nonstop from Hawaii to New York without refueling, a distance of 8,129 km (5,051 mi) in 14 hr 32 min. It averaged 347.5 miles per hour (559.2 km/h). This flight tested the P-82's range. This one was a earlier version that used the Merlin engine vs the latter models that used Allisons( less power/ No License fees). Col. Thacker became a well knowm figure in the RC Scale aircraft hobby through the 60-70's.
I have to agree with you, Corsair II is one my favorite aircraft. Pretty much fell in love with it the first time I saw one as a kid while we were driving through the AFB my dad was at during his time in the Air Force.
That one you saw in the video was actually the YF-22 prototype. But yes you are correct the F-22 is an AMAZING aircraft and to this day it still doesn't have an equal when it comes to air to air combat! Only the F-35 can say it is more advanced when it comes to all the technology it carries.
MississippiRebel Not trying to be rude but I’m pretty sure that is an F-22 not a yf-22. Pay attention to the angles on the nose and the thicker wings along with the shorter rudder stalks. Even so, it is great project all in all.
As a native of the area I really hope you get to cover the rest of the museum. There's some really awesome developmental aircraft like a Valkyrie and Tacit Blue in their newest hangar. Which also houses various former presidential aircraft. Plus the missile/rocket gallery which houses the ICBM's.
XB-36 surplus tires were used by farmers as grain cart tires and also on some old Gleaner combines. We had about a dozen tires laying around when I was a kid.
@7:11 That F4 may have been one of the F4's that wasgiven to RAAF while waiting for the F111's and returned after the F111's were recieved by the RAAF!
@@malusignatius The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) operated 24 McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom II fighter-bomber aircraft in the ground attack role between 1970 and 1973. The Phantoms were leased from the United States Air Force (USAF) as an interim measure owing to delays in the delivery of the RAAF's 24 General Dynamics F-111C bombers. The F-4Es were considered successful in this role, but the government did not agree to a proposal from the RAAF to retain the aircraft after the F-111s entered service in 1973.
It's easy to mistake an F-94 for an F-80. The -94 was developed from the -80 as a minimum cost/time/risk interim interceptor, and the external differences are subtle.
My granddad was the navigator on that KC97 stratofreighter in the 60s and Viet nam. He remembered the tail number and pointed it out to us last time we were at the museum.
7:10 Looks like the Museums page is down, but if i had to hazard a guess i'd say it'll be because it would be one of the 24 F-4Es the RAAF leased while awaiting their F-111 order. Alternatively it could be flown by a RAAF crews working with mixed in USAF crews which happened a little bit during Vietnam.
I think that black P-82 is one the CAF used to own, so that thing actually flew up until about the 80's when it had a crash, and was somewhat restored/kept by the CAF until about 10-15 years ago when the USAF museum bought it. Cool thing is that while it doesn't fly anymore someone recently just got another one back to flying condition this past year. So there's still at least one that flies!
Took my grandfather, who started his 30+ year aircrew career on Sabres bound for Korea to Dayton in 2016, he spent about 15 minutes looking at that panelles F-86. Great museum!!
I was there on during the debut week of the Belle, the entire week I spent several hours in the museum, except for Friday. I talked a bit with the pilot of that Jolly Green Giant, OK, I overheard some of his experiences in the bird during the Vietnam conflict. (He was visiting for the Belle's debut as well.) This is my favorite military museum. I started going there when they just had 2 hangars, the XB-70 and space missile displays were outside and the Annex had the presidential and experimental aircraft. All are now indoors and moved from the Annex to the fourth hangar, except for a select few displays. (The Valkyrie is an amazing aircraft, in any event, but well lit and clean it's even better.) Edit 1: The F-111 escape pod is new from when I was there.
Having been to numerous shows at March and also the museums of the WWII Fagen Fighters and also the one at Ellsworth, seeing the B-2& B-36 in the same hanger makes me really get how big the B-One I've seen is. Also seeing EVERYTHING BUT a mighty Tomcat in this one place, uhhhhhh yeah I MUST GO NOW.
It was nice to hear you mention the SAC Museum in Ashland, Nebraska. I'm from outside of Omaha and visited there many times as a child with my Air Force veteran grandfather. Many many fond memories.
I just came back from a motorcycle trip to the SAC museum last week.th aircraft there are good, but compared to the air Force museum, there is no comparison.
The B36 was my second favorite aircraft in the entire museum (no spoilers for no 1) But this by far was the best museum I've ever been to, I'm 19 but was running around like a kid in a candy shop I was so excited.
Regarding the F-82 Twin Mustang, the fuselage is significantly lengthened compared to a P-51. This was an issue with the Twin Mustang Restoration Project: Walter Soplata (who saved two of the five F-82s left on his farm) only had one fuselage of the XP-82 prototype, and Tom Reilly had to dispel the rumors that you could simply match a P-51 fuselage to it. Somehow he found/rebuilt enough parts to get her airworthy. Beautiful restoration. The NMUASF has two of the five F-82s left.
What little the F-82 has in common with P-51 Mustangs are actually with the H model. Which in turn didn't have a lot of common parts with the B/C/D models.
Heck yeah, that's a Woah moment. I immediately recognized the Peacemaker and was agog. I love that derpy, massive aircraft. It's an early Peacemaker, also, as it lacks the wingtip jet pods.
Loving this! You may want to consider investing in a phone gimbal like the Smooth 4. They are affordable and will make these walkthroughs look so much better.
The Kangaroo on the tail of the Phantom would be to represent that there was an Australian on the crew of that aircraft. During the Vietnam War, Australians flew in Phantoms on secondment in the American Air Force. What other aircraft Australians flew with the USAF, during Vietnam, I’m unaware of
Cool! My son and I camped out at Warner Robbins with the Boy Scouts and went to the museum. We also got to go see the experimental hangar where they keep the X-29 and other stuff.
In the old days, when they only had two hangars, the B-36 dominated the hangar it was in the way you described the one in the other museum doing. Everywhere you went, there was a piece of the B-36 in the frame, like an uncle photobombing at a family reunion. I'm sure the new layout is superior in many ways easily understood by people versed in the Museum Sciences, but I'm a little sad that that's no longer the case.
Actually the tail numbers of Air Force aircraft denote what fiscal year they were ORDERED, not built. That F-22 you see at 0:29 was actually built in 1999/2000 but ordered in 1991 after the YF-22 won the ATF competition as part of the pre-production prototypes of the operational F-22. That particular one was overstressed to something like 14G by accident during testing in 2002 and as a result it was retired from the Combined Test Force and made a museum piece.
11:13 the aircraft is called the “Bird of Prey,” it was intended to be a low cost high performance fighter for smaller nations. Developed by Boeing, it never really lived up to the low cost bit. Oh, and the name is, so I was told an intentional Star Trek reference. MATS became Military Airlift Command (MAC) and then AMC The V-22 Osprey is in a museum....where it can’t hurt anyone.
interesting though to see the Bird of Prey in the museum in Air Force Grey when it AFAIK was painted white during its test flights and was a private venture.
CaptainDuckman while it did fly in all white, not grey. it was a cooperative project between Boeing and McDonnel Douglas (before they were absorbed by Boeing). source: wired.ccom/2014/03/Boeing-bird-of-prey
Wright-Patt has a SAC B-52 flight for years and years - you can still see the pilots semi-underground huts they would be in and the short tunnel they would come out of to get to the B-52s off of Highway 235 near Skypor..... - I mean the old Skyborn drive in movie theater.
the F4 phanton you saw was the actual F4 that col. Robin Olds flew in Vietnam. He was pissed that the museum fixed up the paint blemishes. Robin wanted the F4 to look as it did in war time attire. BTW, unofficially, Robin olds was an "ACE" in vietnam, but the USAF will not recognize his victories,,maybe because he ruffled too many feathers.
Do not leave Dayton -- I repeat do not leave Dayton -- unless you go back and tour Hangar 4 before leaving town. Its the best one of the lot. That and the missile silos! Hoping you have a Part 3 to get your thoughts on the YF-12, XB70, X-15, Air Force Ones, and other doozies.
@The Chieftan >>> At about 11:28 in this video: I was actually kind of thinking the same thing regarding that engine and nozzle assembly being on display...😊
Alright, if memory serves Australia, the RAAF operated for a while a pretty small number of F4 Phantoms while issues with the F111 were being resolved. Less than five years short amount of time. So perhaps the white roo is there to show that it was a leased aircraft/good luck marking/I'm really hitting the bottom of the barrel here. And I think I have a new place I need to visit.
looks like theyve rearranged a bit since i was last there (memphis belle debut). always get a big kick out of seeing the b-47 as a family friend, majpr ralph lusk, was the test pilot on the rb-47. they used to have some of his gear on display but they rotated it off display awhile ago. one of his favorite stories hed tell me was how a floating compass saved his and his copiliots butt when they had an electrical failure in the cockpit in bad weather. the compass wheel is floating on a post sealed in oil. well, her used the angle of tilt on it as an artificial horizon to get down below the weather and land safely.
The b29 you can walk though did drop bombs like that and the British tallboy bomb as well. The life boat was used in air sea rescue dropped from modified b17s after ww2
At 12:43 in this video: There are still bits of one of those buried a couple hundred feet down in a farm field not too far from Goldsboro, North Carolina. From a *_Broken Arrow_* incident of a crashed B-52 in January of 1961. Two H-bombs were released. The other was recovered sticking out of the ground. {The one sticking out of the ground was slowed by parachute before going _splat._ The other nuke was not slowed - its parachute got shredded or something - and it *_augured-in_* at 600+ MPH, according to what I have read.} I have ALSO READ a comment saying if either nuke had fully armed and detonated, the *_"Bay of North Carolina"_* would now exist where the Goldsboro is located....
I have 3 actual jumps from a OV-10, the rear of the center fuselage comes off and there is a slim bench you straddle. Only 3 jumpers at a time, and the last man is the only person who has a seat belt. When your over the DZ, the aircraft pitches up and the jumper releases the seat belt and you slide out.
Wild seeing the F117 Nighthawk after seeing the RUclips videos of it being video’d flying in 2021 in Star Wars Canyon with 2 F16’s. Why on earth is it still flying I wonder when it was “retired” long ago?
Two rather cool things you missed in Hangar 2, the Mig 15 on display is actually the only one to have defected from North Korea, it's pilot collecting the $100,000 reward for bringing the mig into Kimpo during the Korean War. Second, you can walk underneath the peacemaker and get a good look at the bays and the personnel tunnel running through the aircraft.
It's kind of hard to make a building big enough for the b52. Even the USAF museum doesnt have enough room for all of its planes. Outside literaly next to the parking lot they have a C-5 cargo jet, a C130, and another A10 just because they have no room indoors for them.
Bam Waffle Nope The Aviation Museum at Robins AFB we have all of the smaller things inside but bigger aircraft have to be outside because there are only 3.5 hangers. The Ac-130, B-52, A-20, and a few others are outside because of space. All of the rarer stuff is inside like SR-71, U-2, B-17, B-25, and B-29. Our museum has most of these aircraft but not 2 or 3 like this place has. No joke who needs 3 F-4s and 2 B-29s
Wesley Alth only time I saw a B52 was at Yankee air At Willow run. They have one and are currently restoring it. The air museum near me doesn’t have a lot of big planes but they do have the only SR-71 with a twin cockpit, and the Only XP55 in existence!
Wasn't the B26 later designated A26? Similar to P types changed to F? P51- F51. The Pima Air & Space Museum on the Southern tip of Tucson, AZ is an excellent choice for lovers of aviation, just not in July or August. They give tours of the airplane graveyard, and about 20 miles south is their Titan missile museum. There you get to go down to the control/launch room, crew quarters and the missile, still standing in it's silo.
I was a nuclear weapons specialist and a munitions specialist in the Air Force. I built nukes for the Minuteman III program and conventional munitions for F-4Es, F-16s, and F-15As....I've got to get up to that museum...
White Kangaroo. The F-4D with FG tail code was from the 433rd TFS, part of the 8th TFW at Ubon RTAFB, Thailand. 76th Sqn, RAAF was also based at Ubon. Had the kangaroo been connected with the pilot (Col. Olds) it would have been located closer to the cockpit. The white kangaroo was probably a friendly Aussie zap.
VB-6 Felix (IR Guided bomb slated for late 45 use over Japan, used in Korea), and a VB-13 Tarzon that allowed it (a 12,000lb Tallboy) to be guided by radio control
If you are anywhere near this museum, and have any interest at all you really need to just go. This is not a bad walk through but in real life this place is what the word awesome was made for!
thanks for the walkthrough. I might suggest that you study the difference between a Martin B-26 and a Douglas A-26. They are both deadly machines, but only the Douglas version soldiered on.
Enormous hangars, vast range of aircraft, it really makes evident the US belief in air power and the amount of resources invested in it over the years. Impressive.
the raaf got a few squadrens of f4 phantoms to take the place of the f111s that were being delayed at the time with teething troubles , its probably a nod to that
I'm lucky, I live in Detroit which is close to Dayton but not actually in Ohio so that's nice. do they still have the YF 23 Black widow on display? the last time I was there I saw it and it was awesome.
MattCellaneous yup. 2 pro types were made. 1 is in Dayton, the other is in Torrance LA. Igot up close to the LA based one last year. You can touch and walk under it.
Got a great picture of my local RAAF base RAAF Williamtown, with mirage III phantom and F-111 all on the base hard stand from above RAAF them in service while the full order of “pigs” arrived Royal Australian Air Force RAAF
According to the museum write-up on this aircraft, while the serial number is indeed 91-4003, it was built in 1999 and first flew in 2000 at Edwards AFB with the 412th Test Wing. After testing, it went straight to the museum and never flew with the 1st Fighter Wing, so the paint job is a fabrication for display. I wish they had explained the 91-xxxx serial number since the prefix almost always is the year of manufacture followed by the number off the line.
@@birdmonster4586 You might want to check your dates. The F-22 was still barely ink on paper (or pixels even) in 1987. While the USAF recognized a need to replace the still-new F-15, the initial RFP on the ATF wasn't issued until 1985. FIrst flights of the YF-22 and -23 began in 1989 with first flights in The YF-22 on 29 Sep 1990. In April 1991, the USAF awarded the contract to the F-22. (This, I found out is why the first serial number was 91-4001, 91-4xxx for the year and month of the award.) The initial production run was the EMD (engineering, manufacturing and development) aircraft of which s/n 91-4001 was the first. These were not combat aircraft, but were used to further develop the airframe leading up to manufacture. EMD 91-4001 rolled off the line on March 6, 1997. First flight was on September 7 of that year. Front-line F-22s weren't operational until the end of 2005, almost 10 years after initial production, 20 years after the first ATF RFP, and 24 years after the USAF announced their desire for a replacement for the F-15. Keep in mind, the F-15 was still barely 8 years old in 1981, with the first F-15 models being produced in 1973, and many F-15s still flying today are over 30 years old, dating from the mid-80's.
The Royal Australian Air Force flew F-4's for a couple of years before we received the F-111s We were almost going to keep them and use them for CAS but the Costs and Manpower requirements were too much so we sent them back. The one in the Melbourne Museum is an Ex-USAF one the was just painted up to look like an 82nd squadron .
"Oh yeah, just have a thermonuclear bomb just scattered in the middle of the hallway..."
*MURICA*
FUCK YEAH!!!!
@Notaknow Dat live ordinance has been mistaken for deactivated before... Not nukes though afaik.
beat me to the punch.
"4 nuclear bombs on a pylon - just in case you miss with one I guess...oh look, a café!"
"If there are any Russian spies they can get a good look at the F-22 thrust vectoring system."
*seconds later*
"Oh look, Russian spies!"
Jokes aside. Russia has had thrust vectoring aircraft since the 1990s. Su35 and Su37 come to mind. I think the Su57 also has thrust vectoring.
@@KameradVonTurnip Does not have much use in modern air to air combat tho
@@dukenukem8381 Ya but people said that about 'guns' being on aircraft at a time as well. Ironic that the F-35 wasn't designed with a gun... it has a bulge where they shoehorned a gun into the aircraft post development. lol
@@KameradVonTurnip The USAF made the F-35A requirements include it needs an inbuilt gun
The US Navy and Marines did not make it a requirement and instead opted for gun pods
Which historically has happened before, the USN never equipped their Phantoms with guns, nor used gunpods for A2A combat and still out performed USAF Gun armed phantoms
@@demanischaffer Sorry, but only the later E model had a built in gun in the nose. There were problems with the gun pod pylon not being rigid enough to allow accurate shooting. That is why the USAF wanted the nose gun. Plus their F-4s ended up being used for dogfighting, (along with bombing) which shaped their idea of a better Phantom. The AF was willing to adopt a smaller radar antenna, which allowed a nose gun to be fitted, something the USN was loathe to do. Fleet defense required a radar with a larger antenna dish for long distance interception, look at the F-14. What became Top Gun allowed the USN to boost their kill rate. This is to provide added information to the above.
Kangaroo insignia was used on USAF Phantoms being used in exchange aircrew training while the RAAF was awaiting delivery of their 24 F-111's.
I'm surprised they were training in Robin Olds MiG killer though.
@@Reactordrone Why?
@@sarjim4381 It was an F-4C, we were using F-4Es. You'd have to type convert if you trained on the earlier machines.
@@Reactordrone Tell you what. head over to heritageflightgeardisplays.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/carolina-kangaroo-aussie-pilot-flying-phantoms-over-south-vietnam/ and let these former RAAF pilots know they're wrong. I'm sure they'd appreciate the heads up.
Look at the kangaroo on the F-4 in the museum, and the ones in the article. You'll notice that the ones in the article are red, while the one in the museum has a white kangaroo. Also, the one in the museum has the kangaroo on the tail, while the ones in the article are on the nose or on drop tanks.
Chieftain with planes: "This is a plane of some sort, it flew once."
Chieftain, anything with tracks: "This obscure tracked cart was once fitted with an anti-tank gun, let me write a blog entry about its whole development and testing."
He's a tanker, not a flyboy.
*from memory.
Is it bad that I can't ever decide if I'm a tank guy or a plane guy? I've given up trying to decide really and now I can just ID most WW2 stuff but can't tell much about it. "Gee Tom you IDed that thing from across the hangar, only seeing its cockpit and nose section. How fast did it fly?" "Uhhh... Fast enough to fly?" "Gee Tom how did you manage to be able to identify things so well but you know absolutely nothing about them?" "It has guns"
Lol
"Some sort of kevlar or resin" on the Nighthawk.
It's obviously zimmerit.
This museum has to have 2 of every rare aircraft in order to allow them to mate
and lo they were marched two by two onto Nimitz' Ark
a night at THIS museum is highly dangerous.
Life hack: Make 4 mustangs out of your 2 F-82's
_Stonks_
Yes I know it doesn't work but i like the idea.
When he walked in and saw the F-22 Raptor the bird of prey above it I don't think they have two of those they were very rare very specialized Air Force reconnaissance planes not going to see two of them in one spot
That would make it an aircraft zoo.
The Convair F-106A Delta Dart on display there is the famous "Cornfield Bomber". In 1970 the pilot lost control & bailed out only for the Dart to land in a field suffering only minor damage & was repaired & returned to service. Very interesting story look it up!
Yup, the ejection seat dislodged the bird from the engine, if memory serves...
Just popped into my head, way back when I was in my mid-teens, my parents and I went down there to Dayton. I think it was because my Dad had an appointment for something at the VA, and we ended up at the museum for the day. Anyway, my Dad started jabberjawing with some random guy and they came to the conclusion that they had probably tripped over one another at some point in Vietnam because they had served in the same area at the same time. Turned out the guy was one of the volunteers that worked on the aircraft. He took is in back and we got to crawl all over an AC-47 they were restoring at the time. That was a really cool experience.
I need to drive down there soon. The place is obviously much larger than it was last time I went, and full of a lot more stuff. Very cool video. Thanks, that brought up some cool old memories...
They put all the Experimental and Presidential planes into a 4th hangar. So now you don't need to take a bus to see the YF-23, XB-70, X-29, and the various Air Force Ones
That wasn't just any F-4, that was Robin Olds' SCAT XXVII.
There's a P-38J at the Fagen WWII museum that's still wearing the colors of Olds' Scat III(reason it my profile pic) but I haven't gone through the records to see if it actually was his or if it even flew with the 8th AF.
Kicked out? maybe staff were informed two guys with strange accents were filming the exhibits. Therefor, spies.
Thank you for this quick tour of the museum though. What you could get to see.
There is a guy with a weird accent filming everything on his phone, talking to himself and accused a pair of dummies as soviet spies.
I think it's pretty obvious why he is being kicked out
Worse than a spy... the Chieftan used to be an Army officer. ;-)
yea spying on public museum planes, think of the secrets they might obtain......................
YO BILLYBOB. THIS DUDE AIN'T GOT A CAN A' BUD LIGHT.
WUT?! HE AIN'T GOT NO BUD LIGHT?!
THIS DUDE'S A SPY
YEAH! GET 'IM OUTTA HERE
Note: I'm an American. I traded people not saying "you were brainwashed by the American media" whenever I say something good about an American vehicle for the opportunity to make hillbilly jokes.
The F-117 was specially restored to remove all of the special stealth materials, so I wouldn't draw any conclusions from the skin as it's displayed. They could indeed have just covered the underlying frame with kevlar or some other strong fabric and painted it black. The B-2 was a structural test model, and likely never had an "operational" exterior, too. At 23:27 you can even see some external braces under the wing that were added to make it safe for display. Also, the F-22 is actually a YF-22 prototype.
Serbs shot down an F-117 back in '99, the russians long have the "special stealth materials" from it's skin,they don't need to go to an American Museum to take pictures of it.So removing it from this plane was unnecessary.😉
Raul Alejandro Bastilla - You do realize there is a HUGE difference between the stealth on F-22 and F-35 than the very old F-117? Also having parts of an F-117 doesn't mean that Russia can copy it or know who to actually use it. Even today Russia still can't produce a true stealth aircraft. The Su-57 (which has been canceled) wasn't very stealthy.
No XF-23 makes me reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@@jeremeymcdude they have that one, too. It’s in the experimental hanger.
Different B-26. The one in the last video was the Martin B-26 Marauder. The one in this video was the Douglas B-26 Invader. The confusion comes from the Invader being the A-26 during WWII and redesignated B-26 after the Marauder was retired. Special bonus neckbeardian trivia, the F-94 you showed is a B model which is Ak-Tchiually not a "Starfire". That name applies only to the F-94C model, according to Lockheed at the time.
Didn't know that about the Starfire name. Thanks.
I was about to type the same thing. Completely different aircraft with nothing in common but the designation.
In WW2 section was the A-26 light bomber which replaced the A-20 Havoc. The A-26 was renamed B-26 after Marauder retired. A number of B-26's were used in Korea painted all black or black on lower surfaces as night interdiction raiders.
In cold war section the B-26 is a B-26K rebuilt to zero hour airframe for COIN ops by On Mark Corporation. They were used as COunter INsurgency aircraft and night interdiction in Vietnam but we're retired after a number were lost under questionable circumstances. Questions were raised about being too old and reliability issues.
@@Anlushac11 The A-26A, (B-26K) also flew as Nimrod, were the most efficient truck killer per sortie. (at night)
.At some point, the B-26 Invaders in Vietnam were re-designated BACK to A-26, so the US could say "We Have No Bombers in SouthEast Asia" with a straight face.
17:15 an old family friend flew that very RB-47 to the museum to be displayed. He told me many stories about flying sorties over Vietnam with it.
21:52 The US bought ex-Soviet MiG-29s in 1997 from Moldova to prevent Iran from buying them. That's probably where that one came from.
one of their later migs (i forget which one) they got when a private buyer bought one, and made a mistake on some of the paperwork, and was siezed by the government (instead of giving the guy time to correct the mistake, reportedly). so in other words "stolen".
@@thurin84 The proper term would be "confiscated until further notice".
I think the scientifically accurate term is Liberated
Two funny stories regarding the A-1E Skyraider (Which was usually called a "Sandy"): two achieved MiG kills when carrying a loadout of multiple Miniguns, one of the MiGs at least basically disintegrated under the fire. One pilot my dad knew sat indoors eating a sandwich while watching his "Sandy" be re-fueled by Vietnamese personnel. The tank was filled, and the hose was taken away. Some of the 110 Low-Lead dripped from the nozzle and down the wing. The Vietnamese, seeing this, and being thrifty like the old men of Menotomy who knicked the shoes from the fallen British horses, he took out his Zippo and was seen to fill it from the dripping gasoline. Satisfied that it was full, he put it back together, and, as you do, he to try to strike it. This is a most natural reflex having done so, a ritual, almost, an age-old desire to ensure the source of the fire is well in order that finds itself perhaps indifferent to or unaware of the hazards of aviation fuel. Poor pilot watches, sandwich frozen in the air, as his aeroplane and two Vietnamese ground crew are rendered down to their constituent atoms by the detonation of several hundred gallons of 110 Low-Lead. Whoops!
The 2nd F-82 Twin Mustang shown in this vid was a important record breaker.
On 27 February 1947, P-82B 44-65168, named Betty Jo and flown by Colonel Robert E. Thacker, made history when it flew nonstop from Hawaii to New York without refueling, a distance of 8,129 km (5,051 mi) in 14 hr 32 min. It averaged 347.5 miles per hour (559.2 km/h). This flight tested the P-82's range.
This one was a earlier version that used the Merlin engine vs the latter models that used Allisons( less power/ No License fees).
Col. Thacker became a well knowm figure in the RC Scale aircraft hobby through the 60-70's.
I have to agree with you, Corsair II is one my favorite aircraft. Pretty much fell in love with it the first time I saw one as a kid while we were driving through the AFB my dad was at during his time in the Air Force.
I know it’s been around for a while now but my god the F22 is just a magnificent looking piece of science. Absolutely love it.
That one you saw in the video was actually the YF-22 prototype. But yes you are correct the F-22 is an AMAZING aircraft and to this day it still doesn't have an equal when it comes to air to air combat! Only the F-35 can say it is more advanced when it comes to all the technology it carries.
MississippiRebel Not trying to be rude but I’m pretty sure that is an F-22 not a yf-22. Pay attention to the angles on the nose and the thicker wings along with the shorter rudder stalks. Even so, it is great project all in all.
That F-106 was one of the 49th FIS out of the now closed Griffiss AFB in Rome NY. Thanks, it brings back memories.
As a native of the area I really hope you get to cover the rest of the museum. There's some really awesome developmental aircraft like a Valkyrie and Tacit Blue in their newest hangar. Which also houses various former presidential aircraft. Plus the missile/rocket gallery which houses the ICBM's.
XB-36 surplus tires were used by farmers as grain cart tires and also on some old Gleaner combines. We had about a dozen tires laying around when I was a kid.
@7:11 That F4 may have been one of the F4's that wasgiven to RAAF while waiting for the F111's and returned after the F111's were recieved by the RAAF!
Exactly what I was thinking for. They might've painted the Kangaroo when the aircraft was returned.
@@leandrocosta3709 Wrong model though, us aussies only got the F-4E.
Maybe an exchange pilot?
Not given, leased.
@@politenessman3901 Well, lent out as a rental whilst General Dynamics fixed the F-111s.
@@malusignatius The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) operated 24 McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom II fighter-bomber aircraft in the ground attack role between 1970 and 1973. The Phantoms were leased from the United States Air Force (USAF) as an interim measure owing to delays in the delivery of the RAAF's 24 General Dynamics F-111C bombers. The F-4Es were considered successful in this role, but the government did not agree to a proposal from the RAAF to retain the aircraft after the F-111s entered service in 1973.
at 13:32 is a J2F "DUCK"
this particular aircraft starred in the 1971 movie called,,
"MURPHY'S WAR."
It's easy to mistake an F-94 for an F-80. The -94 was developed from the -80 as a minimum cost/time/risk interim interceptor, and the external differences are subtle.
My granddad was the navigator on that KC97 stratofreighter in the 60s and Viet nam. He remembered the tail number and pointed it out to us last time we were at the museum.
7:10 Looks like the Museums page is down, but if i had to hazard a guess i'd say it'll be because it would be one of the 24 F-4Es the RAAF leased while awaiting their F-111 order. Alternatively it could be flown by a RAAF crews working with mixed in USAF crews which happened a little bit during Vietnam.
Gosh ! What a cave of delights ! Thanks for the upload.
I think that black P-82 is one the CAF used to own, so that thing actually flew up until about the 80's when it had a crash, and was somewhat restored/kept by the CAF until about 10-15 years ago when the USAF museum bought it. Cool thing is that while it doesn't fly anymore someone recently just got another one back to flying condition this past year. So there's still at least one that flies!
Took my grandfather, who started his 30+ year aircrew career on Sabres bound for Korea to Dayton in 2016, he spent about 15 minutes looking at that panelles F-86. Great museum!!
I was there on during the debut week of the Belle, the entire week I spent several hours in the museum, except for Friday. I talked a bit with the pilot of that Jolly Green Giant, OK, I overheard some of his experiences in the bird during the Vietnam conflict. (He was visiting for the Belle's debut as well.)
This is my favorite military museum. I started going there when they just had 2 hangars, the XB-70 and space missile displays were outside and the Annex had the presidential and experimental aircraft. All are now indoors and moved from the Annex to the fourth hangar, except for a select few displays. (The Valkyrie is an amazing aircraft, in any event, but well lit and clean it's even better.)
Edit 1: The F-111 escape pod is new from when I was there.
Same here. Love the XB70. I remember you had to get a security pass to drive over to the hangar with the presidential planes, too.
i was there the day of the debut. it was something
I got so excited for the BRRRRRT as soon as I saw the A-10 it in a Background and you didn't let me down :)
Having been to numerous shows at March and also the museums of the WWII Fagen Fighters and also the one at Ellsworth, seeing the B-2& B-36 in the same hanger makes me really get how big the B-One I've seen is.
Also seeing EVERYTHING BUT a mighty Tomcat in this one place, uhhhhhh yeah I MUST GO NOW.
It was nice to hear you mention the SAC Museum in Ashland, Nebraska. I'm from outside of Omaha and visited there many times as a child with my Air Force veteran grandfather. Many many fond memories.
I just came back from a motorcycle trip to the SAC museum last week.th aircraft there are good, but compared to the air Force museum, there is no comparison.
good to see another place to eat is located in this new hangar.
will have to check it out soon.
thx.
The B36 was my second favorite aircraft in the entire museum (no spoilers for no 1) But this by far was the best museum I've ever been to, I'm 19 but was running around like a kid in a candy shop I was so excited.
Regarding the F-82 Twin Mustang, the fuselage is significantly lengthened compared to a P-51. This was an issue with the Twin Mustang Restoration Project: Walter Soplata (who saved two of the five F-82s left on his farm) only had one fuselage of the XP-82 prototype, and Tom Reilly had to dispel the rumors that you could simply match a P-51 fuselage to it.
Somehow he found/rebuilt enough parts to get her airworthy. Beautiful restoration.
The NMUASF has two of the five F-82s left.
What little the F-82 has in common with P-51 Mustangs are actually with the H model. Which in turn didn't have a lot of common parts with the B/C/D models.
Heck yeah, that's a Woah moment. I immediately recognized the Peacemaker and was agog. I love that derpy, massive aircraft. It's an early Peacemaker, also, as it lacks the wingtip jet pods.
It's a B-36J and has the 4 jet engines.
Loving this! You may want to consider investing in a phone gimbal like the Smooth 4. They are affordable and will make these walkthroughs look so much better.
The Kangaroo on the tail of the Phantom would be to represent that there was an Australian on the crew of that aircraft. During the Vietnam War, Australians flew in Phantoms on secondment in the American Air Force. What other aircraft Australians flew with the USAF, during Vietnam, I’m unaware of
Cool! My son and I camped out at Warner Robbins with the Boy Scouts and went to the museum. We also got to go see the experimental hangar where they keep the X-29 and other stuff.
The B-1 there, Boss Hawg, was our best flying jet when I was in the 9th Bomb Squadron. Sad to see it in a museum.
At least it will be preserved for many years to come, rather than be shipped to a boneyard
the F106 at 17:50 is noteworthy for landing intact without it's pilot.(from an uncontrolled spin)
they did a little fix-up and the thing flew again.
The Cornfield Bomber?
Thanks really enjoyed this little walk, that place is huge Woo!
I am glad they finally got it all inside. Last time I was there they had many of those planes parked outside.
They still have planes outside.
My dad was an Aviation Structural Mechanic, Hydraulics man (AMH3) on the A-7E in VA-203 based out of Cecil Field near Jacksonville, FL.
I hope you had the opportunity to see the XB-70!
That plane was literally my favorite aircraft in the entire museum.
In the old days, when they only had two hangars, the B-36 dominated the hangar it was in the way you described the one in the other museum doing. Everywhere you went, there was a piece of the B-36 in the frame, like an uncle photobombing at a family reunion. I'm sure the new layout is superior in many ways easily understood by people versed in the Museum Sciences, but I'm a little sad that that's no longer the case.
A lot of those birds are works of art
what till you see the experimentals.
The Bird of Prey above the F-22 was the most interesting to me. Fascinating program.
I love the A7 too. Lots of hard points and a gunslinger.
Actually the tail numbers of Air Force aircraft denote what fiscal year they were ORDERED, not built.
That F-22 you see at 0:29 was actually built in 1999/2000 but ordered in 1991 after the YF-22 won the ATF competition as part of the pre-production prototypes of the operational F-22. That particular one was overstressed to something like 14G by accident during testing in 2002 and as a result it was retired from the Combined Test Force and made a museum piece.
11:13 the aircraft is called the “Bird of Prey,” it was intended to be a low cost high performance fighter for smaller nations. Developed by Boeing, it never really lived up to the low cost bit. Oh, and the name is, so I was told an intentional Star Trek reference.
MATS became Military Airlift Command (MAC) and then AMC
The V-22 Osprey is in a museum....where it can’t hurt anyone.
interesting though to see the Bird of Prey in the museum in Air Force Grey when it AFAIK was painted white during its test flights and was a private venture.
CaptainDuckman while it did fly in all white, not grey. it was a cooperative project between Boeing and McDonnel Douglas (before they were absorbed by Boeing). source: wired.ccom/2014/03/Boeing-bird-of-prey
Wright-Patt has a SAC B-52 flight for years and years - you can still see the pilots semi-underground huts they would be in and the short tunnel they would come out of to get to the B-52s off of Highway 235 near Skypor..... - I mean the old Skyborn drive in movie theater.
the F4 phanton you saw was the actual F4 that col. Robin Olds flew in Vietnam.
He was pissed that the museum fixed up the paint blemishes.
Robin wanted the F4 to look as it did in war time attire.
BTW, unofficially, Robin olds was an "ACE" in vietnam, but the USAF will not recognize his victories,,maybe because he ruffled too many feathers.
Hopefully we can have to walk around the pima air and space museum. Love to see your reactions on the boneyard at DMAFB.
Do not leave Dayton -- I repeat do not leave Dayton -- unless you go back and tour Hangar 4 before leaving town. Its the best one of the lot. That and the missile silos! Hoping you have a Part 3 to get your thoughts on the YF-12, XB70, X-15, Air Force Ones, and other doozies.
@The Chieftan >>> At about 11:28 in this video: I was actually kind of thinking the same thing regarding that engine and nozzle assembly being on display...😊
Boeing marketed it as the Stratocruiser airliner, but in Air Force service it was the C-97, or KC-97 if it was the tanker variant.
@The_Chieftan >>> At 10:03 in this video -- a military version of the _Helio Courier_ STOL aircraft?
Alright, if memory serves Australia, the RAAF operated for a while a pretty small number of F4 Phantoms while issues with the F111 were being resolved. Less than five years short amount of time. So perhaps the white roo is there to show that it was a leased aircraft/good luck marking/I'm really hitting the bottom of the barrel here.
And I think I have a new place I need to visit.
@The Chieftan >>> At 20:30 in this video: *_"SPARKVARK"?_*
Never heard that nickname before, but I love it!! 👍👍
looks like theyve rearranged a bit since i was last there (memphis belle debut).
always get a big kick out of seeing the b-47 as a family friend, majpr ralph lusk, was the test pilot on the rb-47. they used to have some of his gear on display but they rotated it off display awhile ago.
one of his favorite stories hed tell me was how a floating compass saved his and his copiliots butt when they had an electrical failure in the cockpit in bad weather. the compass wheel is floating on a post sealed in oil. well, her used the angle of tilt on it as an artificial horizon to get down below the weather and land safely.
Global hawk, while not a combat aircraft is still a very beautiful plane.
I go to this place all the time, and i still love the videos lol
The b29 you can walk though did drop bombs like that and the British tallboy bomb as well. The life boat was used in air sea rescue dropped from modified b17s after ww2
At 12:43 in this video: There are still bits of one of those buried a couple hundred feet down in a farm field not too far from Goldsboro, North Carolina. From a *_Broken Arrow_* incident of a crashed B-52 in January of 1961. Two H-bombs were released. The other was recovered sticking out of the ground. {The one sticking out of the ground was slowed by parachute before going _splat._ The other nuke was not slowed - its parachute got shredded or something - and it *_augured-in_* at 600+ MPH, according to what I have read.}
I have ALSO READ a comment saying if either nuke had fully armed and detonated, the *_"Bay of North Carolina"_* would now exist where the Goldsboro is located....
Excellent tour, thanks again
I have 3 actual jumps from a OV-10, the rear of the center fuselage comes off and there is a slim bench you straddle. Only 3 jumpers at a time, and the last man is the only person who has a seat belt. When your over the DZ, the aircraft pitches up and the jumper releases the seat belt and you slide out.
Wild seeing the F117 Nighthawk after seeing the RUclips videos of it being video’d flying in 2021 in Star Wars Canyon with 2 F16’s. Why on earth is it still flying I wonder when it was “retired” long ago?
17:07 must be a joy having the framework right in the middle of your vision
3:15 You can faintly hear an announcement that the museum is closing in 25 minutes. That would explain why they had to leave.
youd think theyd have special access.
I didn't ask, honestly. Didn't think it necessary.
Two rather cool things you missed in Hangar 2, the Mig 15 on display is actually the only one to have defected from North Korea, it's pilot collecting the $100,000 reward for bringing the mig into Kimpo during the Korean War. Second, you can walk underneath the peacemaker and get a good look at the bays and the personnel tunnel running through the aircraft.
The B 26 in the cold war gallery is actually an A 26 invader. They were redesignated to the B designator following world war 2
I feel bad for my museum’s B52 it has been left outside since the place opened
Yankee air? If you’re talking about Yankee air they are working on restoring it currently.
It's kind of hard to make a building big enough for the b52. Even the USAF museum doesnt have enough room for all of its planes. Outside literaly next to the parking lot they have a C-5 cargo jet, a C130, and another A10 just because they have no room indoors for them.
Bam Waffle Nope The Aviation Museum at Robins AFB we have all of the smaller things inside but bigger aircraft have to be outside because there are only 3.5 hangers. The Ac-130, B-52, A-20, and a few others are outside because of space. All of the rarer stuff is inside like SR-71, U-2, B-17, B-25, and B-29. Our museum has most of these aircraft but not 2 or 3 like this place has. No joke who needs 3 F-4s and 2 B-29s
TheFireIsOnFire Robins museum would have a C-5 if it had 2 times the land and one more big hanger.
Wesley Alth only time I saw a B52 was at Yankee air At Willow run. They have one and are currently restoring it. The air museum near me doesn’t have a lot of big planes but they do have the only SR-71 with a twin cockpit, and the Only XP55 in existence!
They keep adding a lot since I was there with my dad back in the 60's
The test bed to the twin mustang is currently living down at Titusville fl, valiant air command
Wasn't the B26 later designated A26? Similar to P types changed to F? P51- F51.
The Pima Air & Space Museum on the Southern tip of Tucson, AZ is an excellent choice for lovers of aviation, just not in July or August.
They give tours of the airplane graveyard, and about 20 miles south is their Titan missile museum.
There you get to go down to the control/launch room, crew quarters and the missile, still standing in it's silo.
I like the fact that in many cases, the associated guns and ordinance is layed out near the aircraft
I was a nuclear weapons specialist and a munitions specialist in the Air Force. I built nukes for the Minuteman III program and conventional munitions for F-4Es, F-16s, and F-15As....I've got to get up to that museum...
White Kangaroo. The F-4D with FG tail code was from the 433rd TFS, part of the 8th TFW at Ubon RTAFB, Thailand. 76th Sqn, RAAF was also based at Ubon. Had the kangaroo been connected with the pilot (Col. Olds) it would have been located closer to the cockpit. The white kangaroo was probably a friendly Aussie zap.
That one plane 2as a b50. Its a b29 with 2 single engine jet pods and mid air refueling the cargo plain next to it is based on the b29
1:59 ish what are the two bombs in front of the B-29?
VB-6 Felix (IR Guided bomb slated for late 45 use over Japan, used in Korea), and a VB-13 Tarzon that allowed it (a 12,000lb Tallboy) to be guided by radio control
I remember some of those older jets when i lived on Nellis A. F .B. in Nevada
When was I there last? Must've been 1999 or 2000. No F22 yet, of course, or Global Hawk. No Osprey either. But lots of familiar stuff.
If you are anywhere near this museum, and have any interest at all you really need to just go. This is not a bad walk through but in real life this place is what the word awesome was made for!
thanks for the walkthrough. I might suggest that you study the difference between a Martin B-26 and a Douglas A-26. They are both deadly machines, but only the Douglas version soldiered on.
Really enjoying this series. Go to Monino!
Enormous hangars, vast range of aircraft, it really makes evident the US belief in air power and the amount of resources invested in it over the years. Impressive.
the raaf got a few squadrens of f4 phantoms to take the place of the f111s that were being delayed at the time with teething troubles , its probably a nod to that
Love these video man, thanks a lot!
You should come to the Evergreen Space & Aviation Museum in McMinville, Oregon sometime.
There is also now the Standard SM-3 carried by Aegis capable ships for intercepting ballistic missiles, and, satellites.
The NJ Air Guard, the 177th Fighter Wing, was the absolute last unit to fly the F-106. Only retiring theirs in favor of F-16s in 1988.
I'm lucky, I live in Detroit which is close to Dayton but not actually in Ohio so that's nice. do they still have the YF 23 Black widow on display? the last time I was there I saw it and it was awesome.
MattCellaneous yup. 2 pro types were made. 1 is in Dayton, the other is in Torrance LA.
Igot up close to the LA based one last year. You can touch and walk under it.
Got a great picture of my local RAAF base RAAF Williamtown, with mirage III phantom and F-111 all on the base hard stand from above RAAF them in service while the full order of “pigs” arrived Royal Australian Air Force RAAF
So that F-22 was built in 1991. I’m guessing the original design programs started in the 1970s. Kooky.
According to the museum write-up on this aircraft, while the serial number is indeed 91-4003, it was built in 1999 and first flew in 2000 at Edwards AFB with the 412th Test Wing. After testing, it went straight to the museum and never flew with the 1st Fighter Wing, so the paint job is a fabrication for display. I wish they had explained the 91-xxxx serial number since the prefix almost always is the year of manufacture followed by the number off the line.
Close, the Advanced Tactical Fighter program started in 1981 took them about 6 years to design build and get the F-22 accepted.
its stealth capabilities were borne of the have blue and tacit blue programs.
@@birdmonster4586 You might want to check your dates. The F-22 was still barely ink on paper (or pixels even) in 1987.
While the USAF recognized a need to replace the still-new F-15, the initial RFP on the ATF wasn't issued until 1985. FIrst flights of the YF-22 and -23 began in 1989 with first flights in The YF-22 on 29 Sep 1990. In April 1991, the USAF awarded the contract to the F-22. (This, I found out is why the first serial number was 91-4001, 91-4xxx for the year and month of the award.) The initial production run was the EMD (engineering, manufacturing and development) aircraft of which s/n 91-4001 was the first. These were not combat aircraft, but were used to further develop the airframe leading up to manufacture. EMD 91-4001 rolled off the line on March 6, 1997. First flight was on September 7 of that year.
Front-line F-22s weren't operational until the end of 2005, almost 10 years after initial production, 20 years after the first ATF RFP, and 24 years after the USAF announced their desire for a replacement for the F-15. Keep in mind, the F-15 was still barely 8 years old in 1981, with the first F-15 models being produced in 1973, and many F-15s still flying today are over 30 years old, dating from the mid-80's.
The ground-launched Tomahawk was the BGM-109 Gryphon. They returned last week.
I remember seeing them on the road occasionally when they were stationed at Davis-Monthan AFB (I was at Ft. Huachuca at the time).
And that’s the Boeing ‘Bird of Prey’ mounted above the F22. I think it’s the only example built.
The Royal Australian Air Force flew F-4's for a couple of years before we received the F-111s
We were almost going to keep them and use them for CAS but the Costs and Manpower requirements were too much so we sent them back.
The one in the Melbourne Museum is an Ex-USAF one the was just painted up to look like an 82nd squadron .
Remind me to never go to a museum with you Chieftain. I'd have the big one trying to keep up with you!!! ;-)
Good to see Phantom IIs. It boggles my mind that their payload nearly on par with a B-29.