USA Covered Call ETF (FEPI) vs China Covered Call ETF (KLIP)
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200k into fepi, margin 100k into ymax, yearly dividend yield 90k, retired.
simple
I like the idea of 100k margin in ymax, but doing the numbers gets a bit discouraging. 100k gets you about 5k shares equaling around $3600/m. You pay around ($500 - $750/m depending on margin rate), then ($108/m toward expense ratio of ymax). Then income tax on $3600 which is probably around 35% which is $1260. In total your paying close to $2000 out of the $3600 generated per month. That's without even paying down any margin and hoping ymax doesn't depreciate in value. $1600/month is still really good, but extra risk involved when you think of it this way.
@@big-rob6677 yep, its all depend on the person how much risk they willing to take, and if 100k margin yield me 40k dividend regardless if i get 10k or 20k after all expenses, that's still 10k-20k profit i dont have if i dont margin. scare money dont make money. sometime just gotta walk outside of comfort zone to get gains. lol
@big-rob6677 Well, my friend, that's the invention of OPM... All those numbers are good and probably accurate, but the person borrowing on margin could care less... it's not his money!!!
Great video thanks - I would love it if you compared YMAG to FEPI
Fepi all the way. They even appreciated in price since inception. Klip stock went down 29% in the last 12 months and paid 44% dividend in average.
The underlying is underperforming. Once the China market gets wings, ppl will be jumping all over KWEB and it will bring KLIP up with it
Good comparison! I would love it if you compared YMAG to FEPI on the next one of these. I dumped all my KLIP in February and never looked back. I have ~650 shares of FEPI on my way to 1,000. Definitely the right move so far.
KLIP will get you way larger amounts of cash monthly, then when you're caught up with your bills, add more FEPI with KLIP distributions.
KLIP would be a diversification play… not sure it one or the other, considering it’s completely different markets 🤷🏽♂️
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I think TIMING and FUTURE is important also (in addition to looking at historical) because if KWEB (KLIP underlying) is starting to rise, then the timing for a high dividend ETF in KLIP that is bottoming out, leveling off, could be a long term BIG RETURN for many years to come
I sold out of KLIP and bought FEPI and will keep buying FEPI.
I was in and out of KLIP last summer in one month. FEPI is a far better investment and I’m working towards 1000 shares of fepi
KLIP is just Chinese TSLY lol. I was in KLIP for a few months and got out. I'm currently in FEPI and plan staying and growing my position. I may consider KLIP in an IRA where I'm not taxed on the distributions.
Moving a head 1 month, klip has been on a steady decline for the last 3 weeks. Has lost 50% with the recent market dump.
I´m not sure why there are videos pitting one stock against another. If the stock(s) fit your profile, it doesn´t matter.
If you invest in KLIP you'll just be paying yourself back your own money. NAV isn't recovering even after KWEB went much higher these last few months. KLIP is heading towards reverse split within the year by the way its trending downwards.
Dumping my KLIP and putting it into FEPI tomorrow
I got rid of klip, bought fepi over 900 shares
I have 2,000 shares of KLIP. I am going to sell my 300 shares of ARR and buy FEPI.
I will take the ETF with the higher dividend
I have a small position in KLIP, and plan to keep it and just auto-drip for the next 10 years, until I retire.
You need a good high growth etf to couple with these high yeild covered calls.. iqqq and qqqi fit that well when paired with hcmt you will get high growth and high yeild with downside protection choppy side ways the high yeilds fix it..
My portfolio looks like this hcmt, lgh, qqh paired with spyi and qqqi
KLIP used to be great, when there wasn't a lot of other high yield options. But now there are better funds, and it isn't worth it anymore. The problem with KLIP is they sell monthly At-the-money calls. So it gets very little upside.
If you compare KWEB and KLIP, when KWEB was rising KLIP barely moved up much. Too much downside, for very little upside. I'd rather be in IWMY at this point than KLIP.
Wow small world .. we use to talk on stockwitz daily .. its me RavenCharts.. anyway .. iwmy NAV erosion is too bad to justify it over klip they both are bad lol SPYT is probably the way to go IWMT when it releases
Wait, I didn't understand why you are preferring IWMY thou, is it like "even IWMY is better than KLIP" kind of reference?
@@Daniyoyo hey Raven, do you know any Week 1 distribution dated ETF that replace Defiance ETFs?
@@toruninthehouseI use XDTE
@@toruninthehouse Yes. I mean, at the current price, I'd rather have IWMY than KLIP.
I have 130 shares of FLIP, cost basis of 14.04. It closed at 13.94 today. I am not concerned about the .10 dip. These funds bounce up and down, so it'll probably put me in the green soon. Meanwhile the monthly dividend is nice. I hold no FEPI, no reason, I just have not taken the time to examine it. There are so many of these ETFs , can't own them all. Also not concerned about this being a China-based fund. I figure China is here to stay on the global economic/financial scene, so why not? As for the geopolitics, well, they'll play nice in the sandbox again at some point. GLTA
fair point
Fepi hands down
Thanks!
I own both of these and add to both. My thought is that the China index theoretically should be moving up at some point but like anything that has been decaying it is not ideal. Something like the Defiance ones I sold out of that I was still positive on. I have lots of positive dividend payers and a small few that are not ideal.
One costs $55-56 currently and pays 25%. Klip is a $13.95 currently and pays .50 last month. If you had the same dollar amount of both. Klip would be paying double what FEPI pays. The declining factor is worrisome but seems that the dollars out and income in are not really comparable. I have more invested in FEPI but we haven’t had a big NASDAQ crash for quite awhile plus China has been deteriorating for 2 years now so kind of a bit much track record here. I’ll continue to add and hold both of these until I find something I think will reward me more. I do love QDTE and great weekly numbers out today! These are only three of my 57 positions so not too worried. I did join you in selling all my Defiance three and putting that cash to work in a variety of positions and FEPI, XDTE QDTE got quite a lot of the proceeds.
The yield on klip might be 50% but 50% on a falling share price. You need to reinvest a bunch back into klip to maintain the same distribution, where as you don't with fepi.
correct
FEPI. Holds its price and we get a solid distribution