As a Chinese person, when I hear someone talking about "the West", I automatically included Russia until I heard coverage of the Ukraine War that framed the war as Russia against "the West"
To the people to their east, Russia has played the role of a Western imperialist nicely. I've never understood how they get away with portraying themselves as some great force for anti-colonialism. Any support they've given to anti-colonial movements has always been first and foremost about screwing with their European imperialist peers.
@@ProfessorxVile Every country portray Russia a certain way depends on the current geopolitical situation. North Korea and Vietnam needed the USSR for survival, what can they possiblely say? What the US did to Okinawa are way worst. Everybody act according to their current best interests.
🤯 I lived in Irkutsk oblast for almost 2 years and we had Buryiat people all over and we lived all together everywhere… I’d never guess that they are racist against them… Furthermore I visited many other oblast and met many eastern Russians conflicting stuff you mentioned. I don’t think Russia expanded how America expanded I don’t think you understand this difference 😅 In my country USA there’s tons of deleted ethnic groups and native Americans who got literally deleted. There’s entire republics inside of Russia with their native people.
Russian here. Russia doesn't have a particular problem with how they treated minorities. Although they still post "for rent" "for slavs only", meaning white people only, which BTW would be totally unacceptable in US, but still - it's just not their biggest problem, which is why this conversation is of limited use. They had a problem with how they treated EVERYONE (except rich foreigners) ... which was much worse than even how Americans treated minorities. And their incredibly weak and toothless society. You as an American will never get to witness struggles of russian family living in Siberia for $100-200/month. But they are there, constantly surviving. Trying to stay alive as opposed to living. I'm treated significantly better in US vs how I was treated in Russia, despite being Russian. Even thugs are somehow more educated and more polite in the US. Russia is nothing like US, it's more like China, but with worse work culture and more violent society.
@@artemaung5274the jokes on you for I know exactly what it’s like to live in Siberia and have such money. I work In Russia in a small town. Also in America it’s openly segregated you have no idea what you’re talking about. Land owners will not rent to colored people either in America 🤣 I think you think it’s so much different over in America. Reading your comment I see you think that anyone will believe that you’re living in some ghetto… I dare you to come to California and try to walk in some streets where we have only Mexicans or only blacks … I’m a Mexican … you have no idea what segregation is
@@artemaung5274you say you’ve been to America but don’t see how segregated we are compared to Russia it’s absolutely hilarious how some people will say anything.
@@Wild-Siberia You have been living in one part of Russia for two years. Stop pretending you know how it is to live in Russia talking to actual Russians 😀 Btw, when is your critical video on Russian politics coming out? Never, right?
oy - the Russian Debate - Slavophiles vs Westerners ... this was essentially my entire Undergrad Degree. The academic conclusion from my university: Russia is it's own enigma do not try to fit Russian / Soviet square peg into round hole European Model (doing so will meet failure often) and even worse still - if you try to understand Russia from the American centered perspective - failure will be your consistent modus operendi
@nativesiberian Italy has its own way. Switzerland has its own way. Russia is an entirely different category. Completely unique and I wish Russia was behaving differently so that the world could benefit from the positive aspects of its uniqueness.
You know much better than me ... but I've dated Russian Asian women that all said they loved Russia and they all said they are treated with respect ....
If Greece is considered European, so should Russia. Both are Eastern Orthodox countries speaking an Indo-European language. Russia as a nation started in Eastern Europe, Greece started between Europe and Asia. I don't think anyone disputes the fact that Greece is indeed a European country.
The main issue why I don’t see russia as a European country, is because it never had a culture that would lead to democracy. The bojarins never had their private property, it could be taken by the czar on a whim. There was no parliamentary tradition, even among the high society. It was always strong/vicious/violent leader and his peasants. So it is very difficult for an average russian to understand the principles of self-governance or the need for it, as it is epigenetically coded to be obedient or else you die/live in poverty.
Russia is no more European then Turkey is and just because some part of Turkey is in Europe dose not mean Turkey is Europe when most of it is in Asia .just like Russia .
More evidence that Russians are linked top Finno-Ugric / Mongolians and not Slavic Europeans people like Ukrainians and Polish .. 1. Lets look at the city of Perm its Location is in Krai Russia Perm is a city and the administrative centerof Perm Krai, Russia, located on the banks of the Kama River near the Ural Mountains. The name Perm is of Finno-Ugric etymology, likely of Uralic origin (Komi-Permyak: Перем, Perem; Komi: Перым, Perym). Komi is a member of the Permic group of Finno-Ugric languages, which is also named for Perm. In Finnish and Vepsian perämaa means "far-away land"; similarly, in Hungarian perem means "edge" or "verge". The geologic period of the Permian takes its name from the toponym. Perm is located in the old Perman area, which was originally inhabited by Finno-Ugric peoples. Perm was first mentioned as the village of Yagoshikha (Ягошиха) in 1647; however, the history of the modern city of Perm starts with the development of the Ural region by Tsar Peter the Great. Vasily Tatishchev, appointed by the Tsar as a chief manager of Ural factories, founded Perm together with another major center of the Ural region, Yekaterinburg. More DNA evidence 2. Mongolian man talking about Finnish DNA and Mongolian DNA Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi) Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi), Suomi and Saami, Uralic Language, Finno Ugric Group of Languages, Haplogroups in Finland: N1C -59%, I1A - 28%, R1A - 5%, R1B - 3.5%. Finnish - 80% Northeastern Karelian and 10% Siberian? N1C is not dispersed, but concentrated in Finland and Baltic. 1/3 Finnish words (lexicon) are authentic Finnish words, and unrelated to other languages. Unique. Origin of Finns is mysterious. Connection to Uralic peoples? My Nganasan DNA connection? 3 This essay was first published in a collection by Yaroslav Dashkevych, PhD. in “Learn to Speak the Truth with Non-Lying Lips” - K:Tempora, 2011, 828pp. Yaroslav Dashkevych was a prominent Ukrainian historian, who during his long academic career wrote more than 950 works on Ukrainian historiography, source studies and special historical disciplines, Eastern Studies, Ukrainian-Armenian, Ukrainian-Turkish, and Ukrainian-Jewish relations.) In creating their nation, Ukrainians need to examine and analyze their own history, based on truth, verified facts and historical events. For centuries under the rule of conquerors, Ukrainians were basically deprived of the opportunity to influence the formation of national awareness and the development of their history KARL MARX ....... "Russia, which has nothing to do with Kivan Russ, now called Russia, received, or rather stole its current name, at best in the 18th century, nevertheless - brazenly claims to the historical legacy of Kievan Russ, that was created eight hundred years earlier. Moscow history is the history of the Horde, sewn to the history of Russia with white threads and completely falsified. ”(Karl Marx, Exposing the Diplomatic History of the 18th Century) .. HER YOU SAY MARX SAYS MOSCVOY (today's Russia) IS THE DECEDENTS OF MONGOLIANS AND THAT KYIV (today Ukraine ) IS THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVIC KYIV RUSS. " The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern Russia is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy..
TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists... The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000-14,000 years ago. Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people .. The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia .. The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia). German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory - that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East - as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’.. He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes.. And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’ Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry.. failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European. When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!! Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde… (unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers ) The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask .. Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are.. Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ? Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !! What conclusion can we take out of all this data ?? 1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !! 2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians 3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians.. 4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
As someone born and raised in the middle of Europe, in a county invaded by Moscow-led soviets, all I can ask Asia is: please take Russia, we don't want it.
'Ethnically' European sure, but culturally completely disconnected. At the core of this disconnect is that Russia still sees itself as the natural "ruler" of Europe, but the rest of Europe wants nothing to do with that. A normal friendly relationship is never going to be sustainable unless this changes.
I don't think Russia sees itself as a natural ruler - at least since the end of the civil war. Actually I can think of only one country that sees itself as a natural ruler and it's an ocean away from Europe. Russia is the most ethnically diverse country in the world. It's also the country with where most terrorist attacks happen. That's why the Russian govenment always worried about the stability of its neighbouring countries. We can disagree with their government on how they should act but if we keep saying that Russia has an ingrained cultural charachteristic - the urge to rule the world - and if we keep making no effort to understand their preocupations we'll never be able to help them and their neghboring countries to have a healthier relationship. I disagree a lot with what Putin does - like invading Ukraine - but something I'm trying to learn is how a pro-European liberal guy became what he is today ... what caused that? BTW, I do understand why his politics tends to be authoritarian and being from Brazil I can't disagree with him (I do disagree with his excesses, though). Brazil became a republic in 1889 but it only became a real democracy after a dictatoship that started in 1930 and ended in 1945. Gen. Getulio Vargas was the dictator who would later be elected president in 1950. From the first days of his term, Vargas faced ruthless opposition and the political situation in Brazil got so unstable that many feared a civil war. In 1954, Getúlio Vargas made the only thing he could to silence the oposition and at the same time avoid a civil war: he shot himself in the heart. Vargas is still admired and is known as The Father of the Poor because of legislations he imposed during this authoritarian government. In the same manner, there's a reason why Putin still holds high levels of popularity in Russia. Here's one of them: from 1991 to 2001 there was an excess death in the adult population estimated to be between 2.5 and 3 million people. Japan lost 2.2 million people during WWI and 3 million people died during the 17 year long Vietnam conflict. The average height of the Russians who were born in that period is 1 centimeter sorter than those who were bron before 1990 and after 2000. This drop in height is observed during periods of famine and war. BTW, the situation in Ukraine wasn't much different as the table bellow from the World Bank shows: data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?end=2001&locations=RU-UA&start=1990 remember that Ukraine is warmer, has a smaller population and has more arable land. The drop in life expectancy is quite similar, though. Why did that happen?
@@maxheadrom3088 "how a pro-European liberal guy became what he is today" He was never pro-European liberal. "That's why the Russian govenment always worried about the stability of its neighbouring countries" Yes. It is so worried about their stability, that it does everything in its might to destabilize them.
Factoring in the fact that majority of Russians live in Europe, alongside the predominant pre-Bolshevik Slavic culture, Russia is a European country. However upon the decline of Orthodox Christianity and pan-Slavism (which tied both Russia and the Balkans together) due to the Soviets, it can be argued that Russia today does not share the common values held by other Europeans, mainly due to its disconnect with Slavs and Orthodox nations (Czechs and Greeks for example were heavily pro Russian for most of their history until the Soviet Union). One can consider Russia a unique civilisation with historically heavy Byzantine influence, with its elite based in Europe, or one can argue it is simply a European nation with many similarities to Balkan and East European states. But to say Russia isn't European or that it is an Asian nation is ignorant of its history and culture.
Muscovy got a lot of influences from Mongol horde and later from Tatars (Turkic nation). This influence made Muscovy partly Central Asian by political culture.
@@robertab929 Wrote a lengthy reply related to cultural aspects to Russia, but I misread your comment and didn't notice it mentioned "political culture" lol I can see how the Russians have inherited a great deal of political systems from the Mongols in the formation of their state, in this case I can agree with you. However, the general argument on whether Russia is European or not lies primarily in the culture of its people. I would not consider Russians any less European than Bosnians, Albanians, Southern Italians or the Spanish who - as ethnic groups - have considerable non-European admixture, with the former two adopting Turco-Persian names, the Islamic faith and Near Eastern customs.
@@TsarMNK Muscovites are ashamed of their heritage related to the Mongol horde. And they try to convince us of their "Roman" origins of power and that they are the third Rome :) Check about Annexation of the Metropolitanate of Kyiv by the Moscow Patriarchate. Since Ivan the Terrible and Peter I they are using stolen name "Russia" instead of Muscovy. Ukraine, Belarus and Novgorod are true successors of Kyivan Rus, not Muscovy. Muscovite "historians" produced many falsified documents to be able to cover these claims.
@robertab929 My friend whether Russia is a legitimate successor to Rome or Kyivan Rus is irrelevant. If you wish to strictly speak from a political and administrative lens then Turkey must be counted as a European country, as the Ottomans maintained Byzantine institutions and the Republic of Turkey was founded upon Western ideals. It is factual that Russia overall has a European identity due to its dominant Slavic culture, European language, European religious tradition and the simple fact that Russians have an easier time integrating into European society than integrating into Asian societies.
Besides geographical, ethnic, linguistic and historical affiliation, there is another, the most important one - mental. You can be a blue-eyed, blond man speaking a European language and living in geographical Europe, but professing an Asian despotic type of behavior. What makes Europe Europe is, first of all, values.
What are European values? You can t put all of europe to the same values. States that have a strong atheistic approach like the UK doesn't the same values like heavily religious places like Poland Romania and Greece
@@nativesiberian As Asian you have a right to judge if Muscovites are Asians. And let Europeans judge if Muscovites are Europeans. As an European I say that they are not Europeans.
Geographically there is no Europe, but there is a cultural border for the people who live there. Therefore if west Europens do not accept Russia in Europe, than Russia is not in Europe....
I’ve always said that the Russian federation is both European and Asian because of all the ethnicities and cultures inside of it, but the core Russian part is European seeing as Russia started in Europe, most Russians still live there and the language is Indo-European. It doesn’t take a genius to know that it is an East Slavic culture and very European, but other cultures they conquered may not be
Yeah good luck with that argument lol russia aint in europe certainly not weat europe. Culturally very different and not connected with much of weat europe theyre still very isolated much like china has been but id argue russia is far more isolated in some ways . To say russia is europe id laugh . Theyre considered eurasia because of geography but russia is unique in many ways because of that historical isolationism culturally and geographically. Most of the world doesnt seem to consider them european
Why are you using western Europe as a reference point for europeannes? Greeks have almost no real connection to western Europe in terms of culture yet I'm fairly certain you consider those to be European.
The Asians learned too much from the Europeans, who lost then Central Asia 1700 years ago (hunnic invasions) and Anatolia a bit later (turkisk invasion). Religious sicknesses like buddhism, zoroastrism, christianism, have been a huge burden. Because of that semitic religion, christianism, the european people have been divided into west and east. Beside, the sassanian empire was isolated. India, today, no matter how brown they look, is actually the only place where the ancient european spirit was kept alive. Friendship between India and Russia will play an important role, while China will be friend with the turkish, mongoloid and islamic people.
I appreciate your views and opinions but you forgot to mention one tiny but powerful ethnic minority represented in Russia and the US and causing similar problems in either country.
If you try to think logically. I think it depends on what people understand by the term Europe. Geographically, the majority of the Russian population lives in the European part of the country. If by the term Europe we mean white people whose cultural roots are in Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire and Christianity, then Russia is part of Europe. If Europe is a modern political union, then Russia is not part of Europe. If some people believe that the main thing about belonging to Europe is a set of values (“European values”), then we need to clarify what these values are and whether Russia corresponds to these values and for these people Russia may not be part of Europe. But then I have a question for such people, as far as I understand, “European values” are now usually called democracy, human rights, and so on, but if you take for example the Third Reich, human rights were not very good there, but it was still European state.
Aren’t there a bunch of French words that got imported into Russian because French was the language used in the Russian imperial court at one point? I've thought that I caught an occasional French word when listening to people speak Russian, and it made sense once I heard that.
@@robertab929That is not true, only very few of them were imported. Because China character and word are still following the tradition, which if a Chinese person had never seen such character or word, he would still able to guess the meaning of it. Give you example, "computer", Japanese just took the sound, but Chinese translate it as 电脑 (electrical brains). Chinese characters are like root in Latin, most words are assembled with characters, not borrow by sound. There are exceptions but very few.
@@commie5211 What is about scientific/historical words/names? For example: Obazoa, Eulemur fulvus collaris, oxidoreductase, NADH or Treaty of Brest-Litovsk?
Russia has itself never felt European. It has been for the majority of its history intimidated by the West and as a result has suffered such an inferiority complex that makes Russia today an extremely dangerous political and military entity.
NATO is veiled US imperialism, a fall back for the USA so they don't have to take all the blame for the many bombings and destruction of countries (like with NATO's involvement in Libya). Any country that is part of NATO are privileged slaves, who are aiding in the brutality caused by US imperialism across the globe. Back in the 2plus4 negotiations NATO made a promise to Russia that they would NOT expand past the Elbe, if Russia would support German reunification. Russia held their end of the agreement and supported German reunification, but a few years later NATO DOUBLED their membership meeting Russia's borders. One could make the argument that while these talks were written down, they were not written as legal documents, this however utterly misses the point. The fact that Russia was willing to support German reunification, and get NOTHING in return, shows that 1. NATO'S word means nothing 2. It is very clearly ANTAGONIZATION. Do you seriously think that was not going to piss Russia off? And if this was not enough, as an insult to injury NATO started flirting with Ukraine about potential membership again antagonizing Russia www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_37750.htm Later on Zelensky would also go on to flirt with NATO next when he became ruler of Ukraine, which also fuled the current invasion. THEN in 2014, the USA COUPED the Ukrainian government, because the president elect had pro Russia leanings, this is when Ukraine had officially became a western puppet state. This BTW would be one of the MAIN reasons why the Donbas wanted to separate from Ukraine, as the USA intervened to dethrone a democratically elected president who just so happened to be less western oriented, which of course the USA hated. This new government would be extra hostile towards Russia. This was enough for Russia soon after to enter Crimea and take it back with ZERO casualties, not even a shot fired and then had a fair election where the vast majotiy of people voted to join with Russia, because the people there felt alienated by a country that they had little in common with politically (aka because of the coup), historically and linguistically (as Crimea was taken by the Russian empire, where the people spoke Russian), and because (especially at that time) Ukraine was (and is) the poorest country in europe per capita and was also runner up for most corrupt country in europe, but don't take it from me, western sources before the war said the same. So if we are going to give Russia crap for taking Crimea, we should then be consistent and do the same with Kosovo which is still to this day being illegally occupied (by UN standards) by NATO, despite Kosovo being legally Serbian land and recognised as such by a crap ton of countries and of course Serbia itself, the host country. TO TOP THAT, NATO then decided to Fund, Arm and Train far right Banderite terrorist groups in Ukraine who would go on to terrorize the people of Donbas FOR YEARS, just further adding to the antagonization of Russia, till they finally had enough. Russia tried to deal with things diplomatically. Putin even tried to join NATO in the past, he tried FIVE TIMES (but was rejected even though turkey is allowed in nato despite occupying cyprus) just so he would not have to worry/deal with these hostile criminals at their borders. It is not however in the wests interest to avoid/stop this war, because for one, war is very profitable for the military industrial complex (among other US companies like Blackrock), and they can pathetically try to make themselves look like the good guys by giving resources to Ukraine while also taking Russia down a peg or two, because the USA hate how much influence Russia has with regards to materials like oil and gas, and how much certain countries rely on these materials from Russia. This conflict is an american pushed proxy war, so that NATO can fight Russia without getting nuked, in that the ukrainians are the victims and cannon fodder for american interests. This war was pushed by the USA/NATO in order to weaken the Russian military, ISOLATE Russia from europe and because most of the money that has been appropriated to Ukraine security assistance doesnt actually go to Ukraine. It gets invested in American defense manufactoring. The west for these reasons will NOT ALLOW Ukraine to go for peace talks to end the conflict, as Ukraine and Russia where to have a peace agreement, just for Boris Johnson to come along and TARNISH the entire thing, because Boris like the rest of the USA puppy states, want to fuel the war, even if it means more ukrainian lives are lost. Just think about this logically, do you really honestly think that arming Ukraine will win them this war? NO, it will only make the war last longer, meaning more and more Ukrainian lives lost. Russia has only sent a SMALL FRACTION of their reserves to fight in ukraine. Just imagine what Russia could do if they had no morals and sent all their reserves? They could take all of ukraine in a few days, but this would result in a huge gigantic GENOCIDE, and Russia wants to avoid this. What Putin instead wants is for Ukraine to stop bending the knee to uncle sam, and TALK LIKE ADULTS and be done with it. The USA knows they cannot do anything to China, but they can do something to Russia as a lower tier super power with influence in Europe, and the Ukraine war was a great idea to bring Russia down a peg while benefiting at the same time. I mean look at what happened to the NORDSTREAM pipelines. As a closing, do you remember just how much the USA flipped out the moment Cuba RIGHTFULLY decided to put rockets at their borders facing the USA? Yet you think Russia would be ok with these NATO criminal SCUM with their track record being near their borders? Let alone Ukraine being part of it, aka the guys who literally hate Russia. For the record, Cuba and the Soviets put those missiles in Cuba as a backlash to the USA doing THE EXACT SAME THING by placing missiles in Turkey facing the USSR, and because the USA LITERALLY tried to coup the Cuban government Additionally one could say that while the USA loves to Invade, coup, bomb, steal resources, sanction and fund/arm/train target countries terrorists like they do in the middle east, at least the USA/NATO does not annex land, right? Well if we where to ignore decades of occupations, then why does the USA fund and support Israel to illegally annex/occupy the SYRIAN Golan Heights, Jerusalem and the west bank? Why does the USA continue to occupy Cuba's Guantanamo bay? A treaty was made in 1903 for the US to use that bay for naval and coal usage, yet they use it as a off shore lawless prison where people are sent without trial to be tortured for decades. This treaty goes against international law, and Cuba demands the USA to stop occupying their land for criminal use. The USA however ignores these demands and continues to pay Cuba a laughably PATHETIC amount of money to rent the area to which Cuba continues to RIGHTLY reject any of it. Why does NATO continue to occupy Kosovo even though it is technically not independent by UN standards, because Kosovo's independence was done illegally, as the host country does not recognise it among many other countries. Why does NATO put up with Turkey illegally occupying Cyprus?
Russia is definitely european. In the same time Russia is not Netherlands or Spain. Russia is another pole of europian evolution. It seems that many people have forgotten european history. Now its bunch of "peaceful burghers" but EU exists what 30-50 years? Russia just moving on its own way, its too big and too powerful inside to be subordinate in politics, economics, culture etc. so it gotta be sovereign. In order to maintain soverenity, Russia sometimes may act rude, which in opinion of posh gentlemen interpreted as asian barbarism. Btw a soft authoritarian regime is the most effective and suitable for Russia and its not making it noneuropean. A question for homework: is Belarus a european country?
Preach Santa Liz, My mind blew when i opened books ( when i was 7 🙄) but reading or historying isn't a thing EU peeps doo sadly :( if they grandmamas only knew ....
With a smaaaall difference you as native people of Siberia get to live still today while native peoples of North America are 0.000001% of the population in USA. The friendly western european peace makers slaughterd them all 😂😂
You cannot know. You can't read if she is a Christian by looking at her. You can assume she speaks Russian, a European language. Europe is not a genetic concept, it is 100% cultural.
In what way, Russia is European? Maybe, on the map, its small part lies in Europe, but it is majority is located in Asia. Right now, Russia is more like North Korea ruled by one fearless leader for the last 24 years. Russia is not not connected economically with Europe, its people can not travel freely to EU.
It was a historical European regional and world power. They sat at the same exclusive tables in the Victorian age that carved up many parts of the world to some degree or other.
And I'm mad that you can't understand the simple idea that Russia started in Eastern Europe with the kingdom of Novgorad or the Kievan-Rus earlier. But whatever who cares about historical facts. That's like claiming Guyana isn't South American for political reasons like they don't speak Spanish or Portuguese. You obviously have an agenda
Low IQ comment. Majority of people in Russia live in the European part, alongside its cultural, economic and political seat of power lying in Moscow and St. Petersburg. By this logic, France was an African country up until the late 20th century and Britain was Indian because a majority of their land was in those regions.
Russia is NOT european country. First of all because western european countries does not see Russia as being one of them. For people in the west Russia is always exotic, unique, a bit dangerous but never something that it is a part of 'their own'. the history of any interaction of Russia with so called "collective" west is just of history of newer ending wars. While asian subjects of Russian empire were conquered and integrated quite successfully (tatars, buryats, North Caucasus), western part of of Russian Empire/Federation were always having troubles living in it - massive Polish/Lithuanian revolts in 19 centrury, Finland running away whenever they had possibility.
In western Europe in 16-17 century there was the age of Enlightment which greatly shaped the mentality of what is todays europe. Nothing like that was happening Russia. majority of population was semi literate untill bolshevik revolution in 20th century. Attempts of Peter the Great to import some western technology like ship building or french/german military uniforms by Jekaterina the 2 or Skolkovo walley under Dimon the Iphone did not change the society at all. Majority of the russian people were/are still living in mental middleages and in the houses without proper sewage. Human rights, respect of minorities, democracy - these are the features of so called west are not present in Russia. I am workiing in NL in a big IT company. When one of my dutch colleagues mentioned to our russian friends that it is not ok to beat LGBT people because they are just different, russians were laughing and said these pydory just deserve to be killed. This will take few hundread years for russians to change their mentality to be closer to western and not sure they will be wiliing to do that at all.
@@rolandasb7502 I was going to post exactly that. BTW given Ruzzian history, the "a BIT dangerous" part must be the understatement winner of the year, ask anyone around Ruzzia's borders.
@@nativesiberian I for example don't consider Ruzzia to be European. What you define as "Western Europe" is actually "Democratic Europe". And yes, Ruzzia does not qualify for that not only because of the current lack of democracy but due to the fact that it has never in its history really experienced it. There is not a single democratic gene in the Ruzzian culture and there has never been. We in Europe tend to value that a lot, at the very top of the list.
By the way, how about russian shauvinism against true slavs? If russian government is antislavic, especially antipolish would people considering themselves slavs😊, also show hatered towards people who really are slavs like Poles, Czechs or Croatians?
I believe so many people that was born and raised in moscow and St P don't even know that their country (Russia) is a diversed country, and they look different, So i believe most of them are naive that they only watch their country on TVs the westerners portrayed them as one identity (slavs) as russians, So that's how most people in the world recognizes russians, i don't think is only in your country they identify you as foreigner, outside Russia people will also consider you as Asian and not knowing there's Asia Russians and other ethnicities also in Russia that doesn't looks like slavs.
My home city Kirkenes Norway 🇳🇴 borders Murmansk Russia 🇷🇺 just 2 ours and 56 ninutes away with car just 223 km away. Murmansk originally belonged to finns of Finland 🇫🇮 but was annexed by Soviets after ww1 Eastern Slavs are Ukrainians 🇺🇦 Belarusian 🇧🇾 and 80% of Russian 🇷🇺 population Belarus litterly means white Russia in Norweagian HviteRussland 😂 genetically Russian slavs are most related to Belarusians they both carry more than 25% quarter baltic related ancestory and the rest is Slavic
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG CANT BE REAL!!!!444!!!! Belarus is white russia in norvagian?!?! OMG SO UNIQUE! It literally means white russa and everyone calls it like that in their own language!
TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists... The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000-14,000 years ago. Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people .. The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia .. The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia). German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory - that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East - as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’.. He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes.. And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’ Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry.. failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European. When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!! Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde… (unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers ) The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask .. Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are.. Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ? Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !! What conclusion can we take out of all this data ?? 1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !! 2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians 3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians.. 4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
Я вообще хожу медитировать в буддийский центр в Москве, интересуюсь буддизмом (будучи русской) и к нашим коренным азиатам хорошо отношусь. Мне жаль, что у тебя был такой опыт в России…
Ну, она не одна страдала от этого. Лиз просто свободно выражает мнение у многих Азиатов в России. У многих Азиатов такой опыт, даже в Москве. Все русские расисты? Конечно, нет. НО, их много.
South Korea and japan are more westernised than russia. If you just look at the institutions that is. Russian history in the 19th and 20th centuries looks a lot more similar to china than european.
Westernised doesn't mean european . You can be european and non westernised. Or else greece wasn't always european or poland or Belarus ukrianian romania ect
@@nativesiberian Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy pointed to the, not quite European nature of Russia. But I think you touch on the key factor that really shaped Russia into something closer to China than its European neighbours: They both experienced the wrath of the kahns. Russian institutions have little echos of the Mongols, from how Peter the great conquered the East and set up tribute systems akin to the Kahns. You could just say that where the Tzars gained tribute of fine furrs for the lucrative fur trade at the time: Moscow now receives tributes of oil.
South Korea and Japan are occupied by Yanks. Russian history in 19th and 20th century has nothing to do with China, it's laughable and ignorant to claim so.
Unfortunately during times of economic crisis people always start to point the fingers on imaginary causes. It's happening in Russia, Central Europe and Western Europe. It's even happening in the UK - that's not in Europe anymore. Do a lot of ethnic Russians give you a hard time about your origins or is it something that comes from a small number of people? Thanks!
omg thats so true! people want to fight over things that don't really matter instead of looking at real issues. to answer your question - I think racism nowadays is more subtle. they will not like beat you up but they will have an attitude. and of course not all russian but enough people to not feel comfortable
Russia is at the barbarian margin. Never integrated into a european empire or language area. Not european. Trans -Ural is colonised. They would love to be European but failed.
More dependant on traditional Christian values, like family, tradition and frugality. But it's less European in that it's authoritarian, anti-democratic and not very friendly with the EU and NATO.
@@nativesiberian like the one that replied it's traditional Christian values but besides that it's architecture. walking down the center of most Russian cities you can see many classical architecture not only in Moscow and St Petersburg. also the a authoritarianism it's another call back to the Europe of old back when there wasn't separation of church and state back when militarism was the cornerstone of most powers. when morality had to enforced top down that way you wouldn't have the crisis of confidence like Europe has today.
TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists... The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000-14,000 years ago. Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people .. The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia .. The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia). German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory - that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East - as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’.. He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes.. And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’ Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry.. failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European. When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!! Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde… (unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers ) The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask .. Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are.. Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ? Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !! What conclusion can we take out of all this data ?? 1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !! 2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians 3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians.. 4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
As an Asian you have a right to judge if Muscovites are Asians. And let Europeans judge if Muscovites are Europeans. As an European I say that they are not Europeans.
That is correct. Europeans have different values to the Russians. Such as democracy, economic freedom, rule of law, absence of corruption, human rights, not attacking our neighbours etc We enjoy our freedoms and high quality of life. Whereas Russians unfortunately. Prefer authoritarianism, poverty, corruption, human rights abuses and this creepy cultural impulse you have of idolising all of your "great leaders". Irrespective of how many Russians they kill and oppress. It is easy to see, how Russia inspired George Orwell to write 1984. There is an alternative. In that Russians could work to change their society and become a normal European country. However that would mean swallowing your pride and admitting all that is wrong about Russia. There is no good reason, why Russia could not become a giant version of Germany or Norway etc
@@Joeblogs263 At the same time, you are already beginning to develop your own authoritarian laws. You cannot write what you think on the Internet, because it will be “intolerant.” You can be fired from your job even if your wife wrote a homophobic statement. Also, I don’t think that ordinary people in Europe have complete freedom of power over their country, since, as always, only powerful corporations rule the country. I won’t talk about the problem with migration policy, since you feel it yourself (Paris is the largest Muslim city in Europe). If in Russia the Right forces built an authoritarian regime, then in Europe and the USA the Left forces are building their own authoritarian regime. Have you heard anything about how Eastern Europeans ridicule your leftist values? About how they now teach you how to make films “correctly” in order to win an Oscar? I love Europe, European values, democratic values, the people here. But I love her as much as I hate her. It's the same with my native Russia. Most of our population has an outdated mentality, terrible corruption, a gangster government that is preparing to become dictatorial. But I love the country itself, the land, the places, the culture, the history of my country. Find at least one person in the world who completely hated his home. Racism has not disappeared anywhere, even in Europe. The current situation is precisely the fruit of the intolerance of the two states towards each other.
@@Thomas...191 My home city Kirkenes Norway 🇳🇴 borders Murmansk Russia 🇷🇺 just 2 ours and 56 ninutes away with car just 223 km away. Murmansk originally belonged to finns of Finland 🇫🇮 but was annexed by Soviets after ww1 Eastern Slavs are Ukrainians 🇺🇦 Belarusian 🇧🇾 and 80% of Russian 🇷🇺 population Belarus litterly means white Russia in Norweagian HviteRussland 😂 genetically Russian slavs are most related to Belarusians they both carry more than 25% quarter baltic related ancestory and the rest is Slavic
Well, you perfectly know why people write "Slavic only". Not because of racism, but more because they don't want to return in one day and see 10-15 illegal migrants in apartment. If you speak Russian well, you can easly rent apartment. So не нагнетай так уж сильно. And about "Poor" Siberians. Really? Do you think that if in permafrost has a lot of resources, life in so cold area would be like in Switzerland? What a joke. And even so, salaries in this type of works for extraction of resources pretty high for Russia, and many people from european part work there. Someone not allow people in Siberia work there? I really really doubt about that. But if you work is alcoholic, then yeah, you will be poor as f*ck. But it's not "Colonisation". It’s just that the development of these regions is too expensive at the moment, and precisely because most of them live in the European part. But over time this will change. Unless, of course, everyone is always whining and trying to yell “Colonization, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa nbhc"
As a Chinese person, when I hear someone talking about "the West", I automatically included Russia until I heard coverage of the Ukraine War that framed the war as Russia against "the West"
To the people to their east, Russia has played the role of a Western imperialist nicely. I've never understood how they get away with portraying themselves as some great force for anti-colonialism. Any support they've given to anti-colonial movements has always been first and foremost about screwing with their European imperialist peers.
interesting. thanks for sharing!
@@ProfessorxVile Every country portray Russia a certain way depends on the current geopolitical situation. North Korea and Vietnam needed the USSR for survival, what can they possiblely say? What the US did to Okinawa are way worst. Everybody act according to their current best interests.
🤯 I lived in Irkutsk oblast for almost 2 years and we had Buryiat people all over and we lived all together everywhere… I’d never guess that they are racist against them…
Furthermore I visited many other oblast and met many eastern Russians conflicting stuff you mentioned.
I don’t think Russia expanded how America expanded I don’t think you understand this difference 😅
In my country USA there’s tons of deleted ethnic groups and native Americans who got literally deleted. There’s entire republics inside of Russia with their native people.
well its not a competition for who treated native people worse. even if it wasn't as bad as it was in the US, it doesn't mean it wasn't bad
Russian here.
Russia doesn't have a particular problem with how they treated minorities.
Although they still post "for rent" "for slavs only", meaning white people only, which BTW would be totally unacceptable in US, but still - it's just not their biggest problem, which is why this conversation is of limited use.
They had a problem with how they treated EVERYONE (except rich foreigners) ... which was much worse than even how Americans treated minorities.
And their incredibly weak and toothless society.
You as an American will never get to witness struggles of russian family living in Siberia for $100-200/month. But they are there, constantly surviving. Trying to stay alive as opposed to living.
I'm treated significantly better in US vs how I was treated in Russia, despite being Russian. Even thugs are somehow more educated and more polite in the US.
Russia is nothing like US, it's more like China, but with worse work culture and more violent society.
@@artemaung5274the jokes on you for I know exactly what it’s like to live in Siberia and have such money. I work In Russia in a small town. Also in America it’s openly segregated you have no idea what you’re talking about. Land owners will not rent to colored people either in America 🤣 I think you think it’s so much different over in America.
Reading your comment I see you think that anyone will believe that you’re living in some ghetto… I dare you to come to California and try to walk in some streets where we have only Mexicans or only blacks … I’m a Mexican … you have no idea what segregation is
@@artemaung5274you say you’ve been to America but don’t see how segregated we are compared to Russia it’s absolutely hilarious how some people will say anything.
@@Wild-Siberia You have been living in one part of Russia for two years. Stop pretending you know how it is to live in Russia talking to actual Russians 😀
Btw, when is your critical video on Russian politics coming out? Never, right?
oy - the Russian Debate - Slavophiles vs Westerners ... this was essentially my entire Undergrad Degree. The academic conclusion from my university: Russia is it's own enigma do not try to fit Russian / Soviet square peg into round hole European Model (doing so will meet failure often) and even worse still - if you try to understand Russia from the American centered perspective - failure will be your consistent modus operendi
Russia is so unique, it has its own way sure...
@nativesiberian Italy has its own way. Switzerland has its own way. Russia is an entirely different category. Completely unique and I wish Russia was behaving differently so that the world could benefit from the positive aspects of its uniqueness.
You know much better than me ... but I've dated Russian Asian women that all said they loved Russia and they all said they are treated with respect ....
If Greece is considered European, so should Russia. Both are Eastern Orthodox countries speaking an Indo-European language. Russia as a nation started in Eastern Europe, Greece started between Europe and Asia.
I don't think anyone disputes the fact that Greece is indeed a European country.
What is about Turkey? Their capital was in Europe (Stambul). Are they European country?
that's a fair point!
The main issue why I don’t see russia as a European country, is because it never had a culture that would lead to democracy. The bojarins never had their private property, it could be taken by the czar on a whim. There was no parliamentary tradition, even among the high society. It was always strong/vicious/violent leader and his peasants. So it is very difficult for an average russian to understand the principles of self-governance or the need for it, as it is epigenetically coded to be obedient or else you die/live in poverty.
thats a fair point!
Saying Russia is Asian is kind of like saying America is a Pacific island nation. Thanks for another interesting video))
which is also kinda true for a certain extant haha. thanks!
Well ... part of American is in the Pacific Islands ... 😉
Russia is no more European then Turkey is and just because some part of Turkey is in Europe dose not mean Turkey is Europe when most of it is in Asia .just like Russia .
More evidence that Russians are linked top Finno-Ugric / Mongolians and not Slavic Europeans people like Ukrainians and Polish ..
1. Lets look at the city of Perm its Location is in Krai Russia Perm is a city and the administrative centerof Perm Krai, Russia, located on the banks of the Kama River near the Ural Mountains.
The name Perm is of Finno-Ugric etymology, likely of Uralic origin (Komi-Permyak: Перем, Perem; Komi: Перым, Perym). Komi is a member of the Permic group of Finno-Ugric languages, which is also named for Perm. In Finnish and Vepsian perämaa means "far-away land"; similarly, in Hungarian perem means "edge" or "verge". The geologic period of the Permian takes its name from the toponym.
Perm is located in the old Perman area, which was originally inhabited by Finno-Ugric peoples. Perm was first mentioned as the village of Yagoshikha (Ягошиха) in 1647; however, the history of the modern city of Perm starts with the development of the Ural region by Tsar Peter the Great. Vasily Tatishchev, appointed by the Tsar as a chief manager of Ural factories, founded Perm together with another major center of the Ural region, Yekaterinburg.
More DNA evidence
2. Mongolian man talking about Finnish DNA and Mongolian DNA Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi) Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi), Suomi and Saami, Uralic Language, Finno Ugric Group of Languages, Haplogroups in Finland: N1C -59%, I1A - 28%, R1A - 5%, R1B - 3.5%. Finnish - 80% Northeastern Karelian and 10% Siberian? N1C is not dispersed, but concentrated in Finland and Baltic. 1/3 Finnish words (lexicon) are authentic Finnish words, and unrelated to other languages. Unique. Origin of Finns is mysterious.
Connection to Uralic peoples? My Nganasan DNA connection?
3 This essay was first published in a collection by Yaroslav Dashkevych, PhD. in “Learn to Speak the Truth with Non-Lying Lips” - K:Tempora, 2011, 828pp.
Yaroslav Dashkevych was a prominent Ukrainian historian, who during his long academic career wrote more than 950 works on Ukrainian historiography, source studies and special historical disciplines, Eastern Studies, Ukrainian-Armenian, Ukrainian-Turkish, and Ukrainian-Jewish relations.)
In creating their nation, Ukrainians need to examine and analyze their own history, based on truth, verified facts and historical events. For centuries under the rule of conquerors, Ukrainians were basically deprived of the opportunity to influence the formation of national awareness and the development of their history
KARL MARX ....... "Russia, which has nothing to do with Kivan Russ, now called Russia, received, or rather stole its current name, at best in the 18th century, nevertheless - brazenly claims to the historical legacy of Kievan Russ, that was created eight hundred years earlier. Moscow history is the history of the Horde, sewn to the history of Russia with white threads and completely falsified. ”(Karl Marx, Exposing the Diplomatic History of the 18th Century) ..
HER YOU SAY MARX SAYS MOSCVOY (today's Russia) IS THE DECEDENTS OF MONGOLIANS AND THAT KYIV (today Ukraine ) IS THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVIC KYIV RUSS.
" The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern Russia is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy..
TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists...
The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !!
According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000-14,000 years ago.
Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole
Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!!
According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people ..
The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia ..
The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia).
German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory - that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East - as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’..
He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes..
And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’
Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry..
failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European.
When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!!
Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde…
(unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers )
The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask ..
Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are..
Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ?
Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !!
What conclusion can we take out of all this data ??
1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !!
2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians
3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians..
4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
Great sense of humor…
haha thanks
Russia is “Eurasia”, not part of Europe or Asia entirely
That’s a geographic consideration. Culturally? They’re western as a majority.
Sorry I should re-qualify that…. They’re European culturally speaking.
another great video! eye opening
thanks :)
It is a big lie. Do not fall into trap!
As someone born and raised in the middle of Europe, in a county invaded by Moscow-led soviets, all I can ask Asia is: please take Russia, we don't want it.
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Totally agree.
'Ethnically' European sure, but culturally completely disconnected. At the core of this disconnect is that Russia still sees itself as the natural "ruler" of Europe, but the rest of Europe wants nothing to do with that. A normal friendly relationship is never going to be sustainable unless this changes.
They are culturally European. They are Slavic Christians. Genes don't matter.
its just the way current relationships look like
@@nativesiberian Nope. It just the way relationships look like since Ivan the Terrible.
I don't think Russia sees itself as a natural ruler - at least since the end of the civil war. Actually I can think of only one country that sees itself as a natural ruler and it's an ocean away from Europe.
Russia is the most ethnically diverse country in the world. It's also the country with where most terrorist attacks happen. That's why the Russian govenment always worried about the stability of its neighbouring countries. We can disagree with their government on how they should act but if we keep saying that Russia has an ingrained cultural charachteristic - the urge to rule the world - and if we keep making no effort to understand their preocupations we'll never be able to help them and their neghboring countries to have a healthier relationship.
I disagree a lot with what Putin does - like invading Ukraine - but something I'm trying to learn is how a pro-European liberal guy became what he is today ... what caused that? BTW, I do understand why his politics tends to be authoritarian and being from Brazil I can't disagree with him (I do disagree with his excesses, though). Brazil became a republic in 1889 but it only became a real democracy after a dictatoship that started in 1930 and ended in 1945. Gen. Getulio Vargas was the dictator who would later be elected president in 1950. From the first days of his term, Vargas faced ruthless opposition and the political situation in Brazil got so unstable that many feared a civil war. In 1954, Getúlio Vargas made the only thing he could to silence the oposition and at the same time avoid a civil war: he shot himself in the heart.
Vargas is still admired and is known as The Father of the Poor because of legislations he imposed during this authoritarian government. In the same manner, there's a reason why Putin still holds high levels of popularity in Russia. Here's one of them: from 1991 to 2001 there was an excess death in the adult population estimated to be between 2.5 and 3 million people. Japan lost 2.2 million people during WWI and 3 million people died during the 17 year long Vietnam conflict. The average height of the Russians who were born in that period is 1 centimeter sorter than those who were bron before 1990 and after 2000. This drop in height is observed during periods of famine and war. BTW, the situation in Ukraine wasn't much different as the table bellow from the World Bank shows:
data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?end=2001&locations=RU-UA&start=1990
remember that Ukraine is warmer, has a smaller population and has more arable land. The drop in life expectancy is quite similar, though.
Why did that happen?
@@maxheadrom3088 "how a pro-European liberal guy became what he is today"
He was never pro-European liberal.
"That's why the Russian govenment always worried about the stability of its neighbouring countries"
Yes. It is so worried about their stability, that it does everything in its might to destabilize them.
Factoring in the fact that majority of Russians live in Europe, alongside the predominant pre-Bolshevik Slavic culture, Russia is a European country.
However upon the decline of Orthodox Christianity and pan-Slavism (which tied both Russia and the Balkans together) due to the Soviets, it can be argued that Russia today does not share the common values held by other Europeans, mainly due to its disconnect with Slavs and Orthodox nations (Czechs and Greeks for example were heavily pro Russian for most of their history until the Soviet Union).
One can consider Russia a unique civilisation with historically heavy Byzantine influence, with its elite based in Europe, or one can argue it is simply a European nation with many similarities to Balkan and East European states. But to say Russia isn't European or that it is an Asian nation is ignorant of its history and culture.
Muscovy got a lot of influences from Mongol horde and later from Tatars (Turkic nation).
This influence made Muscovy partly Central Asian by political culture.
@@robertab929 Wrote a lengthy reply related to cultural aspects to Russia, but I misread your comment and didn't notice it mentioned "political culture" lol
I can see how the Russians have inherited a great deal of political systems from the Mongols in the formation of their state, in this case I can agree with you.
However, the general argument on whether Russia is European or not lies primarily in the culture of its people. I would not consider Russians any less European than Bosnians, Albanians, Southern Italians or the Spanish who - as ethnic groups - have considerable non-European admixture, with the former two adopting Turco-Persian names, the Islamic faith and Near Eastern customs.
@@TsarMNK Muscovites are ashamed of their heritage related to the Mongol horde.
And they try to convince us of their "Roman" origins of power and that they are the third Rome :)
Check about Annexation of the Metropolitanate of Kyiv by the Moscow Patriarchate.
Since Ivan the Terrible and Peter I they are using stolen name "Russia" instead of Muscovy. Ukraine, Belarus and Novgorod are true successors of Kyivan Rus, not Muscovy.
Muscovite "historians" produced many falsified documents to be able to cover these claims.
yeah if we're not playing the game of 'russia has its unique way' then it is European lol
@robertab929 My friend whether Russia is a legitimate successor to Rome or Kyivan Rus is irrelevant. If you wish to strictly speak from a political and administrative lens then Turkey must be counted as a European country, as the Ottomans maintained Byzantine institutions and the Republic of Turkey was founded upon Western ideals.
It is factual that Russia overall has a European identity due to its dominant Slavic culture, European language, European religious tradition and the simple fact that Russians have an easier time integrating into European society than integrating into Asian societies.
Not sure is European countries r depending on friends like Syria Eritrea and North Korea
Besides geographical, ethnic, linguistic and historical affiliation, there is another, the most important one - mental. You can be a blue-eyed, blond man speaking a European language and living in geographical Europe, but professing an Asian despotic type of behavior. What makes Europe Europe is, first of all, values.
What are European values?
You can t put all of europe to the same values.
States that have a strong atheistic approach like the UK doesn't the same values like heavily religious places like Poland Romania and Greece
No, Europe is another name for Western Christian civilisation (Orthodox and Catholic). Russia is Orthodox Christian therefore it is European.
its just one of the ways to look at it, which I don't agree with lol
@@nativesiberian As Asian you have a right to judge if Muscovites are Asians.
And let Europeans judge if Muscovites are Europeans.
As an European I say that they are not Europeans.
Only European 'values' today are serving their Anglo-American masters... Coca Cola, McDonalds and LGBTWoke, these are EU 'values'
Geographically there is no Europe, but there is a cultural border for the people who live there. Therefore if west Europens do not accept Russia in Europe, than Russia is not in Europe....
geographically there's no Europe? what is this huge piece of land then?
@@nativesiberian its part of "Asia"
Europe is a part of Asia?
@@nativesiberian Yeah Eurasia
I’ve always said that the Russian federation is both European and Asian because of all the ethnicities and cultures inside of it, but the core Russian part is European seeing as Russia started in Europe, most Russians still live there and the language is Indo-European. It doesn’t take a genius to know that it is an East Slavic culture and very European, but other cultures they conquered may not be
yep, agreed 100%
Russia may be culturaly european but most of russia is in asia , from the wrstern asia caucus to the central asia and the far east of kamchatka
Yeah good luck with that argument lol russia aint in europe certainly not weat europe. Culturally very different and not connected with much of weat europe theyre still very isolated much like china has been but id argue russia is far more isolated in some ways . To say russia is europe id laugh . Theyre considered eurasia because of geography but russia is unique in many ways because of that historical isolationism culturally and geographically. Most of the world doesnt seem to consider them european
They definitely are European. I'll poll my friends to collect their opinion on the matter.
Why are you using western Europe as a reference point for europeannes? Greeks have almost no real connection to western Europe in terms of culture yet I'm fairly certain you consider those to be European.
The Asians learned too much from the Europeans, who lost then Central Asia 1700 years ago (hunnic invasions) and Anatolia a bit later (turkisk invasion). Religious sicknesses like buddhism, zoroastrism, christianism, have been a huge burden.
Because of that semitic religion, christianism, the european people have been divided into west and east. Beside, the sassanian empire was isolated. India, today, no matter how brown they look, is actually the only place where the ancient european spirit was kept alive. Friendship between India and Russia will play an important role, while China will be friend with the turkish, mongoloid and islamic people.
Russian cannibals being an European country? Good joke.
I am not a cannibal :(
@ms7703 you are a joke. and also a coprophagist (in your case same as cannibalism)
How does someone contact you?
Russia is such a unique country, I just wish there wasn't so much hate and unneeded hard feelings between Russia and the rest of Europe
yeah :(
I appreciate your views and opinions but you forgot to mention one tiny but powerful ethnic minority represented in Russia and the US and causing similar problems in either country.
If you try to think logically. I think it depends on what people understand by the term Europe. Geographically, the majority of the Russian population lives in the European part of the country. If by the term Europe we mean white people whose cultural roots are in Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire and Christianity, then Russia is part of Europe. If Europe is a modern political union, then Russia is not part of Europe. If some people believe that the main thing about belonging to Europe is a set of values (“European values”), then we need to clarify what these values are and whether Russia corresponds to these values and for these people Russia may not be part of Europe. But then I have a question for such people, as far as I understand, “European values” are now usually called democracy, human rights, and so on, but if you take for example the Third Reich, human rights were not very good there, but it was still European state.
you wrapped it up well!
Aren’t there a bunch of French words that got imported into Russian because French was the language used in the Russian imperial court at one point? I've thought that I caught an occasional French word when listening to people speak Russian, and it made sense once I heard that.
haha yeah French was very popular among aristocrats for a while, literally like the first language
Chinese also imported some Western words. People in Kenya or India are using English as national language. But these countries are not European.
@@robertab929That is not true, only very few of them were imported. Because China character and word are still following the tradition, which if a Chinese person had never seen such character or word, he would still able to guess the meaning of it. Give you example, "computer", Japanese just took the sound, but Chinese translate it as 电脑 (electrical brains). Chinese characters are like root in Latin, most words are assembled with characters, not borrow by sound. There are exceptions but very few.
@@commie5211 What is about scientific/historical words/names? For example: Obazoa, Eulemur fulvus collaris, oxidoreductase, NADH or Treaty of Brest-Litovsk?
Most Russian agree, Russia is Russia. Not Europe or Asia
Russia has itself never felt European. It has been for the majority of its history intimidated by the West and as a result has suffered such an inferiority complex that makes Russia today an extremely dangerous political and military entity.
NATO is veiled US imperialism, a fall back for the USA so they don't have to take all the blame for the many bombings and destruction of countries (like with NATO's involvement in Libya).
Any country that is part of NATO are privileged slaves, who are aiding in the brutality caused by US imperialism across the globe.
Back in the 2plus4 negotiations NATO made a promise to Russia that they would NOT expand past the Elbe, if Russia would support German reunification.
Russia held their end of the agreement and supported German reunification, but a few years later NATO DOUBLED their membership meeting Russia's borders.
One could make the argument that while these talks were written down, they were not written as legal documents, this however utterly misses the point. The fact that Russia was willing to support German reunification, and get NOTHING in return, shows that 1. NATO'S word means nothing 2. It is very clearly ANTAGONIZATION. Do you seriously think that was not going to piss Russia off?
And if this was not enough, as an insult to injury NATO started flirting with Ukraine about potential membership again antagonizing Russia www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_37750.htm
Later on Zelensky would also go on to flirt with NATO next when he became ruler of Ukraine, which also fuled the current invasion.
THEN in 2014, the USA COUPED the Ukrainian government, because the president elect had pro Russia leanings, this is when Ukraine had officially became a western puppet state. This BTW would be one of the MAIN reasons why the Donbas wanted to separate from Ukraine, as the USA intervened to dethrone a democratically elected president who just so happened to be less western oriented, which of course the USA hated. This new government would be extra hostile towards Russia.
This was enough for Russia soon after to enter Crimea and take it back with ZERO casualties, not even a shot fired and then had a fair election where the vast majotiy of people voted to join with Russia, because the people there felt alienated by a country that they had little in common with politically (aka because of the coup), historically and linguistically (as Crimea was taken by the Russian empire, where the people spoke Russian), and because (especially at that time) Ukraine was (and is) the poorest country in europe per capita and was also runner up for most corrupt country in europe, but don't take it from me, western sources before the war said the same.
So if we are going to give Russia crap for taking Crimea, we should then be consistent and do the same with Kosovo which is still to this day being illegally occupied (by UN standards) by NATO, despite Kosovo being legally Serbian land and recognised as such by a crap ton of countries and of course Serbia itself, the host country.
TO TOP THAT, NATO then decided to Fund, Arm and Train far right Banderite terrorist groups in Ukraine who would go on to terrorize the people of Donbas FOR YEARS, just further adding to the antagonization of Russia, till they finally had enough.
Russia tried to deal with things diplomatically. Putin even tried to join NATO in the past, he tried FIVE TIMES (but was rejected even though turkey is allowed in nato despite occupying cyprus) just so he would not have to worry/deal with these hostile criminals at their borders.
It is not however in the wests interest to avoid/stop this war, because for one, war is very profitable for the military industrial complex (among other US companies like Blackrock), and they can pathetically try to make themselves look like the good guys by giving resources to Ukraine while also taking Russia down a peg or two, because the USA hate how much influence Russia has with regards to materials like oil and gas, and how much certain countries rely on these materials from Russia.
This conflict is an american pushed proxy war, so that NATO can fight Russia without getting nuked, in that the ukrainians are the victims and cannon fodder for american interests.
This war was pushed by the USA/NATO in order to weaken the Russian military, ISOLATE Russia from europe and because most of the money that has been appropriated to Ukraine security assistance doesnt actually go to Ukraine. It gets invested in American defense manufactoring.
The west for these reasons will NOT ALLOW Ukraine to go for peace talks to end the conflict, as Ukraine and Russia where to have a peace agreement, just for Boris Johnson to come along and TARNISH the entire thing, because Boris like the rest of the USA puppy states, want to fuel the war, even if it means more ukrainian lives are lost.
Just think about this logically, do you really honestly think that arming Ukraine will win them this war? NO, it will only make the war last longer, meaning more and more Ukrainian lives lost. Russia has only sent a SMALL FRACTION of their reserves to fight in ukraine. Just imagine what Russia could do if they had no morals and sent all their reserves? They could take all of ukraine in a few days, but this would result in a huge gigantic GENOCIDE, and Russia wants to avoid this. What Putin instead wants is for Ukraine to stop bending the knee to uncle sam, and TALK LIKE ADULTS and be done with it.
The USA knows they cannot do anything to China, but they can do something to Russia as a lower tier super power with influence in Europe, and the Ukraine war was a great idea to bring Russia down a peg while benefiting at the same time. I mean look at what happened to the NORDSTREAM pipelines.
As a closing, do you remember just how much the USA flipped out the moment Cuba RIGHTFULLY decided to put rockets at their borders facing the USA?
Yet you think Russia would be ok with these NATO criminal SCUM with their track record being near their borders? Let alone Ukraine being part of it, aka the guys who literally hate Russia.
For the record, Cuba and the Soviets put those missiles in Cuba as a backlash to the USA doing THE EXACT SAME THING by placing missiles in Turkey facing the USSR, and because the USA LITERALLY tried to coup the Cuban government
Additionally one could say that while the USA loves to Invade, coup, bomb, steal resources, sanction and fund/arm/train target countries terrorists like they do in the middle east, at least the USA/NATO does not annex land, right?
Well if we where to ignore decades of occupations, then why does the USA fund and support Israel to illegally annex/occupy the SYRIAN Golan Heights, Jerusalem and the west bank?
Why does the USA continue to occupy Cuba's Guantanamo bay? A treaty was made in 1903 for the US to use that bay for naval and coal usage, yet they use it as a off shore lawless prison where people are sent without trial to be tortured for decades. This treaty goes against international law, and Cuba demands the USA to stop occupying their land for criminal use. The USA however ignores these demands and continues to pay Cuba a laughably PATHETIC amount of money to rent the area to which Cuba continues to RIGHTLY reject any of it.
Why does NATO continue to occupy Kosovo even though it is technically not independent by UN standards, because Kosovo's independence was done illegally, as the host country does not recognise it among many other countries.
Why does NATO put up with Turkey illegally occupying Cyprus?
Russia has itself never felt European. - I don't think thats true, and I think I covered that in the video
lol WHaat?? the cold war was mostly insecure western nations due to the succesful soviets
Russia is definitely european. In the same time Russia is not Netherlands or Spain. Russia is another pole of europian evolution. It seems that many people have forgotten european history. Now its bunch of "peaceful burghers" but EU exists what 30-50 years? Russia just moving on its own way, its too big and too powerful inside to be subordinate in politics, economics, culture etc. so it gotta be sovereign. In order to maintain soverenity, Russia sometimes may act rude, which in opinion of posh gentlemen interpreted as asian barbarism. Btw a soft authoritarian regime is the most effective and suitable for Russia and its not making it noneuropean.
A question for homework: is Belarus a european country?
I think so yeah
Russia is no more European then Turkey is just becouse some part is in Europe dose not make it European when most of it is in Asia ..
Preach Santa Liz, My mind blew when i opened books ( when i was 7 🙄) but reading or historying isn't a thing EU peeps doo sadly :( if they grandmamas only knew ....
haha well im glad some of us know something!
Russia doesn't share the same values. So it's as European as Asia is.
With a smaaaall difference you as native people of Siberia get to live still today while native peoples of North America are 0.000001% of the population in USA. The friendly western european peace makers slaughterd them all 😂😂
yeah its horrible
Yeah you do be looking very European there, lady.
You cannot know. You can't read if she is a Christian by looking at her. You can assume she speaks Russian, a European language. Europe is not a genetic concept, it is 100% cultural.
I never said I was, were you listening?
In what way, Russia is European? Maybe, on the map, its small part lies in Europe, but it is majority is located in Asia. Right now, Russia is more like North Korea ruled by one fearless leader for the last 24 years. Russia is not not connected economically with Europe, its people can not travel freely to EU.
It was a historical European regional and world power. They sat at the same exclusive tables in the Victorian age that carved up many parts of the world to some degree or other.
And I'm mad that you can't understand the simple idea that Russia started in Eastern Europe with the kingdom of Novgorad or the Kievan-Rus earlier. But whatever who cares about historical facts. That's like claiming Guyana isn't South American for political reasons like they don't speak Spanish or Portuguese. You obviously have an agenda
Low IQ comment. Majority of people in Russia live in the European part, alongside its cultural, economic and political seat of power lying in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
By this logic, France was an African country up until the late 20th century and Britain was Indian because a majority of their land was in those regions.
Russia is Christian, therefore it is European.
@@chrisdiaz9011 Russia did not start with Novgorod or the Kyivan Rus. They started with Mongol Horde.
I also heard during the Golden Horde, mongols had Droit du seigneur over Russia women, was that true?😶😶😶
lol no idea
What if I told you its both?
I literally never considered Russians to be European. They are... Russian. I feel little civilizational connection to them.
Neither do most Russians want to associate with you lot. we return the same sentiment.
@@samuraijosh1595 yeah, I noticed Vlad speaking about a separate Russian civilization.
Russia is NOT european country. First of all because western european countries does not see Russia as being one of them. For people in the west Russia is always exotic, unique, a bit dangerous but never something that it is a part of 'their own'. the history of any interaction of Russia with so called "collective" west is just of history of newer ending wars. While asian subjects of Russian empire were conquered and integrated quite successfully (tatars, buryats, North Caucasus), western part of of Russian Empire/Federation were always having troubles living in it - massive Polish/Lithuanian revolts in 19 centrury, Finland running away whenever they had possibility.
In western Europe in 16-17 century there was the age of Enlightment which greatly shaped the mentality of what is todays europe. Nothing like that was happening Russia. majority of population was semi literate untill bolshevik revolution in 20th century. Attempts of Peter the Great to import some western technology like ship building or french/german military uniforms by Jekaterina the 2 or Skolkovo walley under Dimon the Iphone did not change the society at all. Majority of the russian people were/are still living in mental middleages and in the houses without proper sewage. Human rights, respect of minorities, democracy - these are the features of so called west are not present in Russia. I am workiing in NL in a big IT company. When one of my dutch colleagues mentioned to our russian friends that it is not ok to beat LGBT people because they are just different, russians were laughing and said these pydory just deserve to be killed. This will take few hundread years for russians to change their mentality to be closer to western and not sure they will be wiliing to do that at all.
@@rolandasb7502 By that flawed logic southern Italy isn't European either.
just because Western Europe doesn't consider russia Europe doesn't mean its not...
@@rolandasb7502 I was going to post exactly that. BTW given Ruzzian history, the "a BIT dangerous" part must be the understatement winner of the year, ask anyone around Ruzzia's borders.
@@nativesiberian I for example don't consider Ruzzia to be European. What you define as "Western Europe" is actually "Democratic Europe". And yes, Ruzzia does not qualify for that not only because of the current lack of democracy but due to the fact that it has never in its history really experienced it. There is not a single democratic gene in the Ruzzian culture and there has never been. We in Europe tend to value that a lot, at the very top of the list.
By the way, how about russian shauvinism against true slavs? If russian government is antislavic, especially antipolish would people considering themselves slavs😊, also show hatered towards people who really are slavs like Poles, Czechs or Croatians?
I believe so many people that was born and raised in moscow and St P don't even know that their country (Russia) is a diversed country, and they look different, So i believe most of them are naive that they only watch their country on TVs the westerners portrayed them as one identity (slavs) as russians, So that's how most people in the world recognizes russians, i don't think is only in your country they identify you as foreigner, outside Russia people will also consider you as Asian and not knowing there's Asia Russians and other ethnicities also in Russia that doesn't looks like slavs.
yeah that sounds right
My home city Kirkenes Norway 🇳🇴 borders Murmansk Russia 🇷🇺 just 2 ours and 56 ninutes away with car just 223 km away. Murmansk originally belonged to finns of Finland 🇫🇮 but was annexed by Soviets after ww1
Eastern Slavs are
Ukrainians 🇺🇦 Belarusian 🇧🇾 and 80% of Russian 🇷🇺 population
Belarus litterly means white Russia in Norweagian HviteRussland 😂 genetically Russian slavs are most related to Belarusians they both carry more than 25% quarter baltic related ancestory and the rest is Slavic
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG CANT BE REAL!!!!444!!!!
Belarus is white russia in norvagian?!?! OMG SO UNIQUE!
It literally means white russa and everyone calls it like that in their own language!
TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists...
The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !!
According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000-14,000 years ago.
Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole
Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!!
According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people ..
The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia ..
The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia).
German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory - that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East - as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’..
He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes..
And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’
Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry..
failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European.
When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!!
Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde…
(unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers )
The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask ..
Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are..
Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ?
Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !!
What conclusion can we take out of all this data ??
1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !!
2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians
3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians..
4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
Greetings from Bulgaria
hey!
I don't have a problem with Russia being in Europe , only with Europe being in Russia.
Well, i have a problem with the US being in Europe.
@@Eventual-Visitor Yes, US would make for a great European country.
Я вообще хожу медитировать в буддийский центр в Москве, интересуюсь буддизмом (будучи русской) и к нашим коренным азиатам хорошо отношусь. Мне жаль, что у тебя был такой опыт в России…
ну вот вы не ненавидите азиатов, и это замечательно!
Ну, она не одна страдала от этого. Лиз просто свободно выражает мнение у многих Азиатов в России. У многих Азиатов такой опыт, даже в Москве. Все русские расисты? Конечно, нет. НО, их много.
@@MrKvp1 вот, это больше похоже на правду. Просто утверждение: «русские ненавидят азиатов» является обобщением
Если бы у меня был ее опыт, наверное у меня тоже былы бы такое мнение. Расисты бывают везде. У нас тоже много в Америке. @@yurunen68
Russia is 40% of Europe.
South Korea and japan are more westernised than russia. If you just look at the institutions that is. Russian history in the 19th and 20th centuries looks a lot more similar to china than european.
Westernised doesn't mean european . You can be european and non westernised. Or else greece wasn't always european or poland or Belarus ukrianian romania ect
thats a very debatable statement lol
@@nativesiberian Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy pointed to the, not quite European nature of Russia. But I think you touch on the key factor that really shaped Russia into something closer to China than its European neighbours: They both experienced the wrath of the kahns. Russian institutions have little echos of the Mongols, from how Peter the great conquered the East and set up tribute systems akin to the Kahns. You could just say that where the Tzars gained tribute of fine furrs for the lucrative fur trade at the time: Moscow now receives tributes of oil.
South Korea and Japan are occupied by Yanks. Russian history in 19th and 20th century has nothing to do with China, it's laughable and ignorant to claim so.
@@Thomas...191 nonsense every word.
No Rusnazia is Eurasian country, mighty Putler and Dughin said this
lol im trying not to be influenced by what they're saying
@@nativesiberian But you are influenced, unfortunately. You are repeating their propaganda learned from school and media.
Unfortunately during times of economic crisis people always start to point the fingers on imaginary causes. It's happening in Russia, Central Europe and Western Europe. It's even happening in the UK - that's not in Europe anymore. Do a lot of ethnic Russians give you a hard time about your origins or is it something that comes from a small number of people? Thanks!
omg thats so true! people want to fight over things that don't really matter instead of looking at real issues.
to answer your question - I think racism nowadays is more subtle. they will not like beat you up but they will have an attitude. and of course not all russian but enough people to not feel comfortable
Not in Europe? We're not in the European Union. We haven't moved 😂
Don't dream baby. russia is Mordor. Next time you will say that Europe is russia.
lol
The last great European empire
Last colonial empire
Russia is at the barbarian margin. Never integrated into a european empire or language area. Not european. Trans -Ural is colonised. They would love to be European but failed.
why are you calling us barbarians wtf lol
the fringe, beyond the pale@@nativesiberian
Russia is more European then Europe this days
haha in what way?
More dependant on traditional Christian values, like family, tradition and frugality.
But it's less European in that it's authoritarian, anti-democratic and not very friendly with the EU and NATO.
@@nativesiberian
like the one that replied it's traditional Christian values but besides that it's architecture. walking down the center of most Russian cities you can see many classical architecture not only in Moscow and St Petersburg. also the a authoritarianism it's another call back to the Europe of old back when there wasn't separation of church and state back when militarism was the cornerstone of most powers. when morality had to enforced top down that way you wouldn't have the crisis of confidence like Europe has today.
TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists...
The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !!
According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000-14,000 years ago.
Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole
Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!!
According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people ..
The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia ..
The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia).
German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory - that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East - as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’..
He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes..
And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’
Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry..
failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European.
When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!!
Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde…
(unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers )
The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask ..
Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are..
Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ?
Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !!
What conclusion can we take out of all this data ??
1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !!
2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians
3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians..
4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
The ultimate irony is, the Europeans probably don't consider Russia as an European country......
That is right. I can confirm it.
I mean... some do, some don't I guess
@@nativesiberian There was Wild West in Western parts of USA in 19. century. And there is Wild Eurasian East in Muscovy.
I mean i do because i know history, but i'm sure some people in Europe don't.
People that don't consider Russia European should probably get a brain
As a Norwegian , I have to
State that Russia is more European than the west now. Large parts of Sweden already will never again have a Swedish culture
Moscow has now more than 2 millions people from Central Asia. Very "European"
@robertab929 no different than London
@@robertab929 Only two million? By that standard France is an north Africa muslim country.
As an Asian you have a right to judge if Muscovites are Asians.
And let Europeans judge if Muscovites are Europeans.
As an European I say that they are not Europeans.
haha
@@nativesiberian I am waiting for your next video entitled 'This Is Why RUSSIA Is Democratic Country'
No. As a Russian she is judging that Russia is European. Almost all Russians judge Russia to be European. That's it. Done deal.
@@appa609 All Muscovites consider themself as Europeans. Especially Medvedev who wants Muscovy from Portugal to Vladivostok :)
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From a Russian living in Europe, no, the Europeans are entirely different people from us. Entirely different.
There are different flavors of Europeans. Denmark to Italy is also very different.
can you elaborate?
That is correct. Europeans have different values to the Russians. Such as democracy, economic freedom, rule of law, absence of corruption, human rights, not attacking our neighbours etc We enjoy our freedoms and high quality of life.
Whereas Russians unfortunately. Prefer authoritarianism, poverty, corruption, human rights abuses and this creepy cultural impulse you have of idolising all of your "great leaders". Irrespective of how many Russians they kill and oppress. It is easy to see, how Russia inspired George Orwell to write 1984.
There is an alternative. In that Russians could work to change their society and become a normal European country. However that would mean swallowing your pride and admitting all that is wrong about Russia. There is no good reason, why Russia could not become a giant version of Germany or Norway etc
russians love poverty? thats something new
@@Joeblogs263 At the same time, you are already beginning to develop your own authoritarian laws. You cannot write what you think on the Internet, because it will be “intolerant.” You can be fired from your job even if your wife wrote a homophobic statement.
Also, I don’t think that ordinary people in Europe have complete freedom of power over their country, since, as always, only powerful corporations rule the country. I won’t talk about the problem with migration policy, since you feel it yourself (Paris is the largest Muslim city in Europe). If in Russia the Right forces built an authoritarian regime, then in Europe and the USA the Left forces are building their own authoritarian regime. Have you heard anything about how Eastern Europeans ridicule your leftist values? About how they now teach you how to make films “correctly” in order to win an Oscar?
I love Europe, European values, democratic values, the people here. But I love her as much as I hate her. It's the same with my native Russia. Most of our population has an outdated mentality, terrible corruption, a gangster government that is preparing to become dictatorial. But I love the country itself, the land, the places, the culture, the history of my country. Find at least one person in the world who completely hated his home.
Racism has not disappeared anywhere, even in Europe. The current situation is precisely the fruit of the intolerance of the two states towards each other.
this title is ridiculous. how could anyone ever thought Russia is not European?
It straddles the line between Europe and Asia. Not quite European and not quite Asian.
@@Thomas...191
My home city Kirkenes Norway 🇳🇴 borders Murmansk Russia 🇷🇺 just 2 ours and 56 ninutes away with car just 223 km away. Murmansk originally belonged to finns of Finland 🇫🇮 but was annexed by Soviets after ww1
Eastern Slavs are
Ukrainians 🇺🇦 Belarusian 🇧🇾 and 80% of Russian 🇷🇺 population
Belarus litterly means white Russia in Norweagian HviteRussland 😂 genetically Russian slavs are most related to Belarusians they both carry more than 25% quarter baltic related ancestory and the rest is Slavic
@@Thomas...191 it is fully European. Russia started in Europe and then just expanded to Asia.
@@SnowWhiteArches well you'd be disagreeing with Russian luminaries like Tolstoy and dostoyevsky.. but I'm sure you know best 👌
Slava Russia
Well, you perfectly know why people write "Slavic only". Not because of racism, but more because they don't want to return in one day and see 10-15 illegal migrants in apartment. If you speak Russian well, you can easly rent apartment. So не нагнетай так уж сильно. And about "Poor" Siberians. Really? Do you think that if in permafrost has a lot of resources, life in so cold area would be like in Switzerland? What a joke. And even so, salaries in this type of works for extraction of resources pretty high for Russia, and many people from european part work there. Someone not allow people in Siberia work there? I really really doubt about that. But if you work is alcoholic, then yeah, you will be poor as f*ck. But it's not "Colonisation". It’s just that the development of these regions is too expensive at the moment, and precisely because most of them live in the European part. But over time this will change. Unless, of course, everyone is always whining and trying to yell “Colonization, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa nbhc"
sure sure