there are so many ways they try to teach us this, every ai in the game behaves the same way as players do, any interaction that can kill you or send you flying will do the same to them.
The vacuum pump automatically takes the right things when it is close enough to the entrances to the packing station. You can see this when the entrances to the packing station open slightly. To the people who say he is cheating: I don't think he cheated but if it is, it's his game. He can decide how he wants to play the game. Just like with the water system and everything else. It is his game, he can decide how he plays it. If you don't like that you shouldn't watch the videos. My opinion. It's annoying when people want to dictate how someone should play the game.
Steamy I agree cause if cheating in oil (if that’s even what he’s doing) is making the game more enjoyable by allowing him to actually do fun things for these videos instead of just having to grind for oil all the time. So if it’s making the videos more enjoyable for both him and us then I don’t think we have the right to get angry at him for cheating (this is all a big *if,* I’m not accusing him of cheating).
For some reason, my vacuum pump won't automatically go inside the station. I get close to it, the green arrow on the station turns blue and the "door" opens, but it won't take anything out. It's a little annoying
Fun fact; Gas engines are either on or off and when off they lock the bearings, electric engines are always on meaning they’ll run down your batteries even when not in use.
If the vacuum pump touches the input, it will automatically send out the specific food even if its mixed along with other foods. Also, I think the vacuum pump will stay activated if you use a switch instead of a button. *I found out that it doesn't work and j0hnbane made an automatic system on his veggie transport video. Time stamp for his vid is **8:30*
not trying to backseat as i don’t know what you know, but a switch makes using the vacuum pump so much easier since you don’t have to know the timings, it just waits a second or so for the pumps flow rate. also, getting closer to the packing station ports will open them up (which i assume tells the vacuum what to pull), you are not close enough which means it will shoot the first item in the chest.
"Play like you want to play" - Best way to play scrap mechanic in my honest opinion. I played it blindly for the first couple of hours. Now 90 hours in, and saw a bunch of designs online, it kind of sucked the fun out of it. Discovering new stuff is how it was meant to be played.
I looked up irrigation, and the systems were incredibly complex. I ended up just using a single water cannon, facing it upwards, putting it on a timer, allowing chance to soak crops. Waters everything in about 30 seconds and took maybe 20 minutes to build
Moonbo i respect you're decision a lot on how you want to play the game. Lots of people look at these builds and guides and forget that half the fun of the game is to build something of you're own imagination and having pride in its use.
I've heard that you can even crush big bad red boss bot with this method. So, yeah it's pretty OP. Pistons would seem better, but I wonder if they would work.
@@benakam101 Pistons work great. Used pistons on my farm (one on each side) with a controller (and a switch to turn it on off). I used 1-2 pistons per side to just raise/lower platforms on a loop. Crushes them all. Some durable materials for the edges and first wall layer still recommended as they still get a few hits in before they die.
@@TheTchab just use a timer, and gate, and 2 xor gates. this causes a loop which can be toggled by a button. just turn it on and go do something else =/
Yo chocotaco made a giant crusher that went around 3 walls of his farm and powered it with a single piston. Moonbo was watching his stream and helped here and there
just make a togglable logic loop so you can just press a switch/ hold down a button to keep pushing out harvested goods into the packing station, logic gates are pretty cheap too, this isn't about automation and just a way so you don't have to press a button a thousand times, don't wanna tire out those fingers
This lucky bastich has cotton growing right near his mechanic station. I had to spend 17 real hours in a search across the map to find cotton. I even found a second mechanic shop, some huge factories with canal systems, and two abandoned cities.. All before I found cotton.
@@dan3a Yeah. It really was. I had no bed to put on my vehicle. I got killed by a boss bot on the other side of the map while I was lost and trying to find my way back. And when I say other side of the map, I am talking about 6-8 game days traveling in a straight line with a car. These maps are huge. I had to respawn back at my base with no food, no resources, and a backup car with a scrap engine and a single can of gas. When I finally made it back to where my good car and all my gear was, I had to spend an hour kiting 2 bossbots away from my stuff and into some deep water before I could pick it up. The ONLY bit of luck I had was that getting killed and respawning back at my base allowed me to find my way back once I got my stuff.
There is no wasting crops when packing them. Notice that there are 7 'bars' to be filled but you need to put 10 veggies inside the machine to start te packing. So 3 veggies are put inside the machine without resulting in a bar added on the display. It's not a bug, it's a feature
Honestly I just laugh at the fact that I can carry hundreds of fruit in a chest, but then I have to "pack" them into these huge crates that only hold 10 each. Seems back-ass-wards to me.
I don't think its the bearings draining the battery. I have a similar problem with the gas engines, when they are shut off the gas still drains out slowly. I think the problem comes from a bug in the code. There is quite a bit that the devs need to work on with this mode. its still a lot of fun.
i have a suggestion for the watering system, instead of putting the water cannons in a bearing connected to an electric motor that consumes batteries, i think is better use a controller in loop connected directly to the driver saddle, and put the conttroller in a setting that you would like
Just got this game few days ago, also just realised I watched a lot of your videos, you are very entertaining to watch to. very relax and nice. Thanks for the videos.
Why not add steering left and right for the water turret? :D if you plan to make the farm bigger. Also, if you place the walls horizontally, it will take longer time for farmbots to get to the crops because of the distance, its also cheaper than layers upon layers of walls. But I guess that wouldn't work with the crusher defense. When farming broccoli or pinapple, use fertilizer because it takes 2 days or more for them to grow.
The reason why you “wasted” the tomato there it’s because if you’re not close enough to the opening it will only shoot the first crop in the chest, but if you came closer you should see the entrance opening a bit and then you will know it will only shoot in the right crop
If you can get your hands on one, try setting up an AND gate, and have one connection to a button or switch and the other to the power system. Hopefully, while the button isn't pressed the power isn't allowed to interact with the bearings, and therefor won't use power? Unless the AND gate takes a constant supply of power, it's worth a try. If not, maybe use a controller, or try hooking a button to the power, then daisy chain it to the bearings? Or hook the bearings to the seat?
I'm not sure how I feel about crusher defenses, even without a lift involved. They're overwhelmingly powerful and require little effort or resources, which is a problem if the devs want raids to be a major part of the game. On the other hand, there aren't many other great alternatives, in part because of how resources and both pathing work, especially before you get spud guns. I think the devs need to introduce more bot types, that with more divergent functions than the current set, and give them more complex pathing than just shortest line. Maybe also include some minor terrain manipulation, like digging a moat.
What method do you use for your steering, it works very well... I put 2 bearing for steering, 1 for each side, and I reach a block from it a total of 1x3, and the steering is eh
Oo what would be a neat change/addition would be that rather than batteries being one use then poof be chargeable, and have it so that you can use them to turn things, or you can turn things to charge them back up, thus you could make raid chargers and water wheels and all sorts of stuff
Did you try this on farmbots (the red ones) which appear when you seed enough broccoli and pineapple? my sawblade defense didnt stop them, so this may be a good option
The electric engine is glitched right now where matter what it will keep using batteries it's not a tension thing or something else its just glitched and I'm pretty sure they are working on it right now
When you build the Crusher with Pistons, put Sensors on the Wall then you would bit even have to be near the Raid, dont need to be stationary, but it would ve cool to find out if it would work...
You actually don't need an engine for that watering system. Just connect a controller to the driving seat and set up an angle for the bearings on the controller. And you can use W and S to rotate them to aim up and down... with no need of any power whatsoever ;).
Could u also use ur lift to water the crops? When you lifted ur watering mechanism up partially explaining ur crusher it seemed like u could just move the lift up and down and have a button in front of u for the pumps?? Would save wasting batteries etc
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The crusher is legit dude the devs display something like this in the trailer. No lift but they crushed the bots
there are so many ways they try to teach us this, every ai in the game behaves the same way as players do, any interaction that can kill you or send you flying will do the same to them.
Nah what u mean, it is 2000iq ... totally not something the devs already taught everyone
Are you a fan
So not cheap
Well he’s been watching chocoTacos stream the last couple days and this is basically a carbon copy of his crusher
12:18 did anyone notice that he turned the bearings to the wrong side ?
yes I did, that's why it kept fish-tailing
He nub
Well done sherlock
@@evanherriges4042 well yes but the back trailer bring out powers and it turns do i would fishtail anyway
@@boostjdm1957 yes, but the rear wheels of the front trailer were going in the opposite direction so it wasn't helping
The vacuum pump automatically takes the right things when it is close enough to the entrances to the packing station. You can see this when the entrances to the packing station open slightly.
To the people who say he is cheating: I don't think he cheated but if it is, it's his game. He can decide how he wants to play the game. Just like with the water system and everything else. It is his game, he can decide how he plays it. If you don't like that you shouldn't watch the videos. My opinion. It's annoying when people want to dictate how someone should play the game.
Yeah but I honestly think it’s very unlikely that it’s cheating and more a case of grinding and an abundance of crude oil
Steamy I agree cause if cheating in oil (if that’s even what he’s doing) is making the game more enjoyable by allowing him to actually do fun things for these videos instead of just having to grind for oil all the time. So if it’s making the videos more enjoyable for both him and us then I don’t think we have the right to get angry at him for cheating (this is all a big *if,* I’m not accusing him of cheating).
For some reason, my vacuum pump won't automatically go inside the station. I get close to it, the green arrow on the station turns blue and the "door" opens, but it won't take anything out. It's a little annoying
The trailer is snaking because the trailer wheels are powered and pushing them around. Also good on you for playing the way you want to! 👍
Don’t let anybody tell you you can’t do it the way you want to
Fun fact; Gas engines are either on or off and when off they lock the bearings, electric engines are always on meaning they’ll run down your batteries even when not in use.
You have just made my farmbot raids soooo much easier to handle when I only have a hammer
If the vacuum pump touches the input, it will automatically send out the specific food even if its mixed along with other foods.
Also, I think the vacuum pump will stay activated if you use a switch instead of a button.
*I found out that it doesn't work and j0hnbane made an automatic system on his veggie transport video. Time stamp for his vid is **8:30*
Nope it doesn't you still have to click it on and of every pump, button is quicker.
@@jimb6117 dang. Thats stupid. :/
I'm pretty sure the trailer was snaking around because they were connected to the motor. Nice train though :)
“The lift might be a bit overpowered” I scaled a warehouse with one and stole all the roof loot
Nani
So u managed to raid/loot a warehouse with just a lift(and a hammer i guess)?!
@@dark-5825 yes
@@Chris-sy8wv our savior has come
That’s a great idea!
not trying to backseat as i don’t know what you know, but a switch makes using the vacuum pump so much easier since you don’t have to know the timings, it just waits a second or so for the pumps flow rate.
also, getting closer to the packing station ports will open them up (which i assume tells the vacuum what to pull), you are not close enough which means it will shoot the first item in the chest.
"Play like you want to play"
- Best way to play scrap mechanic in my honest opinion. I played it blindly for the first couple of hours. Now 90 hours in, and saw a bunch of designs online, it kind of sucked the fun out of it. Discovering new stuff is how it was meant to be played.
I looked up irrigation, and the systems were incredibly complex. I ended up just using a single water cannon, facing it upwards, putting it on a timer, allowing chance to soak crops. Waters everything in about 30 seconds and took maybe 20 minutes to build
I like having control I dont want things being automated
Dont let this guy play factorio
Or Satisfactory
Being automated doesn’t mean you don’t have control.
Moonbo: I have the best defense you don't need water cannons.
Me: Watches moonbo crush dozens of bots
Also me: *mind blown*
I like the way you play you play by your own rules
Moonbo i respect you're decision a lot on how you want to play the game. Lots of people look at these builds and guides and forget that half the fun of the game is to build something of you're own imagination and having pride in its use.
Im sure people have said this, but you can upgrade your packing system by using logic gates on that button! Then you only have to flip a switch
17:48 this is what you clicked for
I've heard that you can even crush big bad red boss bot with this method. So, yeah it's pretty OP.
Pistons would seem better, but I wonder if they would work.
anyone tried it with pistons?
@@benakam101 Pistons work great. Used pistons on my farm (one on each side) with a controller (and a switch to turn it on off).
I used 1-2 pistons per side to just raise/lower platforms on a loop. Crushes them all. Some durable materials for the edges and first wall layer still recommended as they still get a few hits in before they die.
Same here. Pistons are great ! I use button, I tried with sensors but didn’t work
@@TheTchab
just use a timer, and gate, and 2 xor gates. this causes a loop which can be toggled by a button. just turn it on and go do something else =/
Yo chocotaco made a giant crusher that went around 3 walls of his farm and powered it with a single piston. Moonbo was watching his stream and helped here and there
I had a lot of saws just spinning on walls... It glitches them out so they cant attack the base... It work very good when you have a big base
im pretty sure that does the invincible glitch to them
Puggie Boi you dont even need to make them spin ^^
@@ultimatech Yeah I just surrounded my base in saws that weren't even on bearings and they stayed away
just make a togglable logic loop so you can just press a switch/ hold down a button to keep pushing out harvested goods into the packing station, logic gates are pretty cheap too, this isn't about automation and just a way so you don't have to press a button a thousand times, don't wanna tire out those fingers
moonbo you crushed that raid lol
Moonbo: I am saving up my exotic fruits blueberries, bananas, and oranges
Scrap Man: broccoli that turns to tomatoes...
This lucky bastich has cotton growing right near his mechanic station. I had to spend 17 real hours in a search across the map to find cotton. I even found a second mechanic shop, some huge factories with canal systems, and two abandoned cities.. All before I found cotton.
That's just some bad luck my dude
@@dan3a Yeah. It really was. I had no bed to put on my vehicle. I got killed by a boss bot on the other side of the map while I was lost and trying to find my way back.
And when I say other side of the map, I am talking about 6-8 game days traveling in a straight line with a car. These maps are huge.
I had to respawn back at my base with no food, no resources, and a backup car with a scrap engine and a single can of gas.
When I finally made it back to where my good car and all my gear was, I had to spend an hour kiting 2 bossbots away from my stuff and into some deep water before I could pick it up.
The ONLY bit of luck I had was that getting killed and respawning back at my base allowed me to find my way back once I got my stuff.
@@KurNorock I do backups every hour in case I fuck up that badly
Electric engines don't turn off.. other RUclipsrs have had the same issue
Or go the scrapman route and use pistons
@@Jordan__306 I was just mentioning electric engines are bugged and never turn off.
random user Kan Gaming*
Kan made the piston engine scrapman made a piston watering machine
There is no wasting crops when packing them. Notice that there are 7 'bars' to be filled but you need to put 10 veggies inside the machine to start te packing. So 3 veggies are put inside the machine without resulting in a bar added on the display.
It's not a bug, it's a feature
I agree you should play this game the way you want to play, that’s the beauty of this game
Honestly I just laugh at the fact that I can carry hundreds of fruit in a chest, but then I have to "pack" them into these huge crates that only hold 10 each. Seems back-ass-wards to me.
OMG thank you, made this in a car. A single lvl 2 pistol and wood is all you need. (Switch) farming bots is so much easier now!
Thank you, Moonbo. I’ve been hesitant to farm, but your method has given me a good way to defend my crops.
Man I don't care if anyone calls that cheesy or not, that is awesome! Now, if you'll excuse me I have a crusher I have to go make! :)
Raids always happen at exactly 24:00. Therefore, the optimal planting time is 24:01. This will give you the maximum grow time before the first raid.
”What if water-pumps were upgradable and took up two instead of one” They already pick up two water by default.
They do? Strange... i couldve sworn it only sucks up one at a time
I think for me it pick up one but I’ve seen it picking up 2 at a time
It mostly is one at a time, but sometimes two for me
18:56 tell that to the tape bots and harvesters that will come if you plant too much pineapple.
"Its important to have a large chest". I was working while had this in the background, and that got me giggling aloud. :)
well played sir. big fan of your work :D
I don't think its the bearings draining the battery. I have a similar problem with the gas engines, when they are shut off the gas still drains out slowly. I think the problem comes from a bug in the code.
There is quite a bit that the devs need to work on with this mode. its still a lot of fun.
18:39 ohhh that's nice tactics moonbo
That defense actually cracked me up. Just like the farmbot's heads!
You should make a mech type thing that has a spud gun for an arm, that will make for a pretty cool project for survival
LIKE SO MOONBO SEES!!!
New drinking game! Take a shot whenever Moonbo says "actually " haha great video as always
i have a suggestion for the watering system, instead of putting the water cannons in a bearing connected to an electric motor that consumes batteries, i think is better use a controller in loop connected directly to the driver saddle, and put the conttroller in a setting that you would like
Just got this game few days ago, also just realised I watched a lot of your videos, you are very entertaining to watch to. very relax and nice. Thanks for the videos.
Dude that is awesome! It's like hydraulic press
Bruh that crusher was straight up filthy hahaha. I love it
Moonbo if you only want to save circut boards when making buttons and switches use the scrap build bot because that takes one less curcuit boards.
Me: *builds a mechanical device to get me on top of the warehouse to get the loot instantly* the game: you werent supposed to do that
@@tthung8668 there a video somewhere confirm this?
One of iballisticsquid's warehouse videos (he made 2 or 3)
Why not add steering left and right for the water turret? :D if you plan to make the farm bigger.
Also, if you place the walls horizontally, it will take longer time for farmbots to get to the crops because of the distance, its also cheaper than layers upon layers of walls. But I guess that wouldn't work with the crusher defense.
When farming broccoli or pinapple, use fertilizer because it takes 2 days or more for them to grow.
POWER LEVEL ABOVE 9000!!!!!!!
OMG that crusher is amazing! That was too fun!
Ugh backseat gaming
Lmao the only comment he like that’s so passive-aggressive I LOVE IT
Lmao he likes the one comment that's passive aggressive
I definitely want to see you try this on a Big Red!
The defender mechanism is awesome and the water cannons do not neutralize the hay bots.
Alright, your farm defense is brilliant.
If you push the vacuum pump against the receiver at the packing station it automatically takes the right crop. You can see the receiver squish a bit.
One minute equals one hour so everything goes so slowly that’s a scrap mechanic works
crushing the bots is BRILLIANT
omg! this is epic! im so using this idea. i cant stand having to sweat every time theres a raid
You should build a tall tower with a pattern of lights on it so you can see it from a distance at night
Keep up the good work!
The reason why you “wasted” the tomato there it’s because if you’re not close enough to the opening it will only shoot the first crop in the chest, but if you came closer you should see the entrance opening a bit and then you will know it will only shoot in the right crop
I just subscribed , bro your voice is so nice , and the way you play this game , i simply love it
Moonbo you can have the veggies whatever order you want. You were wasting beets because you werent close enough.
If the Devs did not rush survival they could have put ten lights on the packager instead of just seven. Lol
Awesome video Moonbo ... Great ideas
19:01 this is called a mob grinder
If you can get your hands on one, try setting up an AND gate, and have one connection to a button or switch and the other to the power system. Hopefully, while the button isn't pressed the power isn't allowed to interact with the bearings, and therefor won't use power? Unless the AND gate takes a constant supply of power, it's worth a try. If not, maybe use a controller, or try hooking a button to the power, then daisy chain it to the bearings? Or hook the bearings to the seat?
I'm not sure how I feel about crusher defenses, even without a lift involved. They're overwhelmingly powerful and require little effort or resources, which is a problem if the devs want raids to be a major part of the game. On the other hand, there aren't many other great alternatives, in part because of how resources and both pathing work, especially before you get spud guns.
I think the devs need to introduce more bot types, that with more divergent functions than the current set, and give them more complex pathing than just shortest line. Maybe also include some minor terrain manipulation, like digging a moat.
Love your watering system.👍
The crushing part was soooo satisfying.
What method do you use for your steering, it works very well... I put 2 bearing for steering, 1 for each side, and I reach a block from it a total of 1x3, and the steering is eh
Looks like they changed bearing physics in survival, they are now too soft
Oo what would be a neat change/addition would be that rather than batteries being one use then poof be chargeable, and have it so that you can use them to turn things, or you can turn things to charge them back up, thus you could make raid chargers and water wheels and all sorts of stuff
I have an Idea use sensor so if the monsters is coming and want the farm the sensors detect the monsters and crush
Is the difficulty of the raids based on how many crops + days or just days?
A combination of consecutive days as well as the crop "value". Different produce seeds carry different values that change the difficulty of the raid!
@@Moonbo Very insightful, thank you!
So can you basicly also make a engine turning a bearing on wich you got like some spinning crosses, would that kill them too?
Put suspension on your drills so they don't bounce off the rocks.
Did you try this on farmbots (the red ones) which appear when you seed enough broccoli and pineapple? my sawblade defense didnt stop them, so this may be a good option
The electric engine is glitched right now where matter what it will keep using batteries it's not a tension thing or something else its just glitched and I'm pretty sure they are working on it right now
I thought your watering system was pretty cool. I plan on doing something like that as well.
using lift for everything
for some reason they made fuel drain if its in an engine or a fuel container, so if you want it to not drain put it in a chest while you are out.
@@huntersole68 yes
When you build the Crusher with Pistons, put Sensors on the Wall then you would bit even have to be near the Raid, dont need to be stationary, but it would ve cool to find out if it would work...
You actually don't need an engine for that watering system. Just connect a controller to the driving seat and set up an angle for the bearings on the controller. And you can use W and S to rotate them to aim up and down... with no need of any power whatsoever ;).
Hi keep up the great work
Hey man you're first
Hi moonbo I love your survival tips and advice for all of the technique for sur
1:20 Damn straight. People who don't like how you play this can not let the door hit them in the butt on the way out.
Moonbo? this lift manipulation works with farm bot boss?? hope it works
You should put resource collectors on top of your crusher to grab all the loose bits too!
Everybody gangster until the tapebot shows up at your crop site
Moonbo: *shows awsome defence strategy*
Me: I have to build this in my survival world.
Just wait till big bots and the tape bots start comin in your raid. good luck crushing them!
Would love to see a build tutorial or similar on a piston implementation of the crusher.
Thx moonbo!
I love how everyone has a unique farm defense
I think you could try a piston and bearings to control ur water aim system. Woudnt hurt to give it a try since batterys are not craftable.
Good idea!
Spud Auto turret when?
Can't work that turrets need mods
@@HotSurprise1982 sensors can't detect robots?
If that's gonna stay like that it's gonna be sad
@@creativemind42069 oh i thinked that u mean a turret that aim robots and kill them
With that you could use sensors on the piston for complete automated defense.
18:10 was genius
Could u also use ur lift to water the crops? When you lifted ur watering mechanism up partially explaining ur crusher it seemed like u could just move the lift up and down and have a button in front of u for the pumps?? Would save wasting batteries etc
man i love ur intro
That killing chamber tho, genius move.i do wonder does it work with the red giants(big) and the tapebots(long range)?
How do you uptrade the seat?