You did the glitch where you skipped a lot of the reboots and stuff, nice move there, I wonder what a 100% run would be like though. I might attempt it one day 🥶
It's a pretty neat speedrunning tactic. Anyways. You're right. I apologize for this. I wasn't part of the DustTrust community when it was in its first pre-leak era, and yeah, I know it's ironic. I joined the DustTrust community riiight after it got cancelled. (when the og dusttrust page was turned into a joke page) Most of the old stuff got deleted, like the discord server and such. Obviously, I can still look up the stuff that HASN'T been deleted, which yeah, I apologize for. I could also ask members from the OG DustTrust era for information, which I should have done before making this video. I also apologize for that. If I ever remake the video, I'll make sure to do that. And if you ever do a video explaining the history of DustTrust, I'm sure it would look amazing, considering you're a big part of it. Have a nice day!
Tl;Dr: Simple fangame gets a complete and unique revamp, leak kills it, people make fan takes, Kasssm gets ownership of the official one, everything gets messy as hell.
Very good video man. No.... I love it. All the anger I had about this fangame for 2 years are now in one video. I just hope some take about Dusttrust in the future will be good.kepp going love you videos.
I should post this for the sake of clarification, Underswap: Thanatos is not an official remake anymore. Underswap: Thanatos is just Ari's take on Pre-leak Dusttrust (Which means that Phase 4 still exists, Ari just simply removed it from her take) and it's name never actually changed.
Imagine just thinking of a cool at for a au, "What if we do the swap version of Dustbelief? The original Underswap disbelief is called 'Distrust.' So we can call it: DustTrust! This would just be a simple fangame though, nothing too far." And then in 2 years the AT/AU becomes so popular and toxic within it's community. I feel really bad for Sawsk. Dude really just wanted a simple fangame to be published.
By me, DUSTTRUST was very good au but because the leaks and the leaks with virus was the point with the team give up Also i give much versions of it And the Ari DUSTTRUST it’s one of the best but VERY MUCH thinks was scrappted
I know ur probably not going to be reading this comment or never see it but why is the fan base so toxic and what did they do and I’m very sorry to anyone that got mad at this comment for no apparent reason am really really sorry
There's not really a "good" reason on why the fanbase was toxic, but it was mainly because the original developers joked around with the community so much. Many of them got tired of it. Some were just toxic because the game took time to release and were impatient. Hope that clears things up.
@@CrimsonOST wait old man, that was not really so the fault was never the community's fault it was thanks to the people who leaked the game in the development stage
there is a lot of promising stuff now. dillywolf is working on official dusttrust, ari is also making another dusttrust take called dusttrust X, which is basically just pre leak but way better.
Personally I can't imagine why so much work was put into all the Dusttrust takes. Like you said, the stuff that got leaked and what not look phenomenal...and yet it's spend on an AU so odd for Undertale. It would've been interesting to see what that talent all those people possessed be put into an fangame that made more sense as an Undertale AU, but for what we got to see, the Dusttrust takes were ones to behold. Maybe eventually we'll get some concrete from the concept. Stuff like Dusttale: Last Genocide managed to pull through and keep going forward, so it's really all up to how much determination (haha pun) developers have out there to take a crack at it. Thanks for compiling all that information into this video. Must've taken a lot of internet mining. Can't wait to see more content!!!
I think you could make a whole video out of the years of drama surrounding the au. Flamesatgames supposedly trying to claim ownership of it because he owns Disbelief, the wars between Dusttrust devs and Last Breath that largely contributed to the end of preleak, I could go on.
I can get behind ditching the Papyrus and Core Encounters. Heck, even the Old Home open world segment. But why, why get rid of Phase 4? The one thing that would make this stand out amongst all other fan games. It's literally just a generic Dusttrust game now. Im sorry if it seems like I'm venting. But it's just so frustrating that we've been waiting around 2 years for this, just to learn that absolutely nothing different is being done.
i dont care about phase 4 in the slightest, if thats all you cared about, then why even still be in dusttrust as a whole, canon dusttrust is 2 phases, ari's is 3, melancholy's creators are bluntly horrible people, just leave if it bothers you this much, because ari is not going to bend over to meet your needs, sorry.
Quality content Ya cah never find this stuff nowadays. Couls ya make one for dustbelief? Less interesting but still I would like to hear abt yhe takes and stuff
There's different reasons why, but I'm pretty sure the main one is because of the team pressuring Ari to scrap the plans about the full game, because of the huge amount of work it would take. Some others say it was mostly Ari's decision, but we probably won't ever know, because that's kept behind the scenes. Hope that clears things up.
The complete inspiration came from dustbelief(especially hoster version) and dusttale. I think that fdy was the only person who managed to make a complete game for legacy(even tho he split the phases in to 3 folders). I also remember that in a Chinese version of dustbelief you could change the fight. Where you can fight dustbelief or dusttrust. Both characters had different attacks.
They never really posted anything on the game's content, only occasionally posting concept art. They also went silent for extended periods of time, sometimes for a year or something. And then they just decided to delete the entire game page. It got cancelled, which is a shame since it looked promising.
You're right. I apologize for this. I wasn't part of the DustTrust community when it was in its first pre-leak era, and yeah, I know it's ironic. I joined the DustTrust community riiight after it got cancelled. (when the og dusttrust page was turned into a joke page) Most of the old stuff got deleted, like the discord server and such. The only archives I found of it was from the Wayback Machine, so I couldn't get much information from it. Obviously, I could ask members of the OG DustTrust community, so if I ever remake this video again, I'll make sure to do that. I hope you have a nice day.
@@CrimsonOST ahh you used the way back machine, I was wondering if you just kept screenshots of the pages from years ago It's been almost 3 years since the release of the pre leak demo.
There’s just one thing I still don’t get Thanatos was once called pre-leak, but does that mean that everything in pre-leak was gonna be originally in the game before it got leaked? Even then, it don’t make sense, as the sprites for pre-leak were completely different than the ones originally used in the game we all now today as dusttrust
@@vietcongat5884 but why would they call it that when it has no significant meaning? they could've just called it dusttrust if that was the case, but they didnt
@@randomnessradiator because it was originally the offical "preleak" the game was based of the pre-leaking of dusttrust, and it was crowned the offical preleak, the reason was because the canonical and pre-leak stories were different (so were the phases) and they needed to be separated, now underswap: thanatos is the name, this is because thanatos is the greek god of death. its also based of Undertale: Thanatos. its not called simply called dusttrust because it is no longer affiliated officially with dusttrust, therfore no need to have it in the name.
Every dusttrust fangames REVAMP which more time almost EVERYTHING they make would be scrapped and stuff and stuff etc etc it gonna take forever to release one if they just keep doing that
There has been like only two people who have gotten close to a full good game qk and fdy. Fdy is go forever and qk lost phase 4. I really was excited and was hoping dusttrust could have finally rest knowing that it has a full game and a somewhat good community. But it looks like we might not get a full good game of dusttrust. For awhile
You should make a video on The unseen Ending just be more clear I’m talking about the games with Papyrus and gaster if I remember correctly there’s a bunch of canceled games I think that should be enough to make a video on it. sorry for any spelling mistakes
The fact that CrimsonOST didn't talked about this guy called "REALDUSTTRUSTOFFICIAL" on Gamejolt it has all the phases (except phase 4) with the phase 1,phase 2 (virus?),phase 3 and the phase 3 (small monitor or something)
As someone who's been in this hellhole of a community ever since the Sawsk era, I'm disappointed by the amount of missinformation, not to mention all the things that weren't mentioned like the ownership debate, the Demo Cezar controversies, Sawsk's copyright strikes, etc. I'd suggest to make this video private/unlisted for you to remake it with the missing information being included, most importantly the current state of the canon dusttrust, the official reboot
It's real bizarre how this edgy ass fangame became so much more than what it was built out of, seeing as the og premise is a roundabout way of having yet another "edgy sans fight who is angr and want kil you," which was getting kind of boring by the time this was even conceived. Not that I'm complaining, it's become my second favorite AU and my most anticipated fangame, mainly because of nostalgia. Something to note about the AU as a whole is how it survives from its osts, seeing as i don't think any official version of dusttrust has had an incomplete soundtrack at this point, counting it's original debut to now with Thanatos, and likely DillyWolfs as well in the future (or whatever the hell is going on there, seriously what is the official take anymore?) It makes sense that it became extra dependent on music in the games themselves that like to have the music cue up certain parts when you progress, along with being flashy as all hell.
In my opinion, scrapping full game is dissapointing but removing phase 4 from dusttrust was worst decision. Everyone was waiting for this phase and it looked pretty original. underswap thanatos - i hate this name, why underswap and not dustswap? Why thanatos? Is thanos gonna be in this game ? Ari really dissapointed me and i hope that atleast canon dusttrust will be better.
I mean, It does make sense in a way, since Dusttrust is a Timeline of Dustswap/Swapdust, WHICH is a Timeline of Underswap, and the name Thanatos could be because of that one greek god or something, or maybe even Thanatophobia
Was there a pre-legacy (by legacy i mean 5 phased version) Dusttrust era where Sans had a giant purple axe instead of a sword? I've seen it a couple times but I don't know if it was actually ever a thing apart from a few fangames like ZY's classic Dusttrust. Personally I think it looks a lot cooler than the sword version, especially when Dustbelief is usually designed with swords
Yes! Dillywolf made Nick's Dusttrust canon again, so the game is getting worked on now. Phase 1 won't change much, but phase 2 will get changed a lot. Hope that clears things up.
Game had so much potential but the community had to ruin it. Is that hard to mind your own business and wait until christmas to open your present while their getting it ready?
Underswap Thanatos is NOT even canon Dusttrust lol, it's a simple take, it's just that it's pretty much the closest thing we will have for a Dusttrust fangame
You did the glitch where you skipped a lot of the reboots and stuff, nice move there, I wonder what a 100% run would be like though.
I might attempt it one day 🥶
It's a pretty neat speedrunning tactic.
Anyways.
You're right. I apologize for this.
I wasn't part of the DustTrust community when it was in its first pre-leak era, and yeah, I know it's ironic. I joined the DustTrust community riiight after it got cancelled. (when the og dusttrust page was turned into a joke page)
Most of the old stuff got deleted, like the discord server and such. Obviously, I can still look up the stuff that HASN'T been deleted, which yeah, I apologize for.
I could also ask members from the OG DustTrust era for information, which I should have done before making this video. I also apologize for that.
If I ever remake the video, I'll make sure to do that.
And if you ever do a video explaining the history of DustTrust, I'm sure it would look amazing, considering you're a big part of it.
Have a nice day!
@@CrimsonOST Dude I'm literally making a video where I asked a member of the old dusttrust team what happened I hope you'll do again
@@hueviadorlucio The way he phases it like a speedrun lmao
Tl;Dr: Simple fangame gets a complete and unique revamp, leak kills it, people make fan takes, Kasssm gets ownership of the official one, everything gets messy as hell.
Very good video man. No.... I love it. All the anger I had about this fangame for 2 years are now in one video. I just hope some take about Dusttrust in the future will be good.kepp going love you videos.
I should post this for the sake of clarification, Underswap: Thanatos is not an official remake anymore. Underswap: Thanatos is just Ari's take on Pre-leak Dusttrust (Which means that Phase 4 still exists, Ari just simply removed it from her take) and it's name never actually changed.
I mean phase 4 doesn't exactly exist, since the actual Dusttrust is getting some kind of remake by dilly
@@r0z557 That's the case for canon DUSTTRUST, what I mean is that Phase 4 still exists within Pre-Leak.
@@Flowey98 alr
hopefully it isnt based on preleak anymore and its more original now
Not to mention there were also takes only based on Dusttrust with some more or less original concepts. For example: Scarlet Flare.
Imagine just thinking of a cool at for a au,
"What if we do the swap version of Dustbelief?
The original Underswap disbelief is called 'Distrust.' So we can call it: DustTrust! This would just be a simple fangame though, nothing too far."
And then in 2 years the AT/AU becomes so popular and toxic within it's community.
I feel really bad for Sawsk. Dude really just wanted a simple fangame to be published.
Yep.
By me,
DUSTTRUST was very good au but because the leaks and the leaks with virus was the point with the team give up
Also i give much versions of it
And the Ari DUSTTRUST it’s one of the best but VERY MUCH thinks was scrappted
I know ur probably not going to be reading this comment or never see it but why is the fan base so toxic and what did they do and I’m very sorry to anyone that got mad at this comment for no apparent reason am really really sorry
There's not really a "good" reason on why the fanbase was toxic, but it was mainly because the original developers joked around with the community so much. Many of them got tired of it.
Some were just toxic because the game took time to release and were impatient.
Hope that clears things up.
@@CrimsonOST interesting
@@CrimsonOST wait old man, that was not really so the fault was never the community's fault it was thanks to the people who leaked the game in the development stage
there is a lot of promising stuff now.
dillywolf is working on official dusttrust,
ari is also making another dusttrust take called dusttrust X, which is basically just pre leak but way better.
Personally I can't imagine why so much work was put into all the Dusttrust takes. Like you said, the stuff that got leaked and what not look phenomenal...and yet it's spend on an AU so odd for Undertale. It would've been interesting to see what that talent all those people possessed be put into an fangame that made more sense as an Undertale AU, but for what we got to see, the Dusttrust takes were ones to behold. Maybe eventually we'll get some concrete from the concept. Stuff like Dusttale: Last Genocide managed to pull through and keep going forward, so it's really all up to how much determination (haha pun) developers have out there to take a crack at it. Thanks for compiling all that information into this video. Must've taken a lot of internet mining. Can't wait to see more content!!!
I think you could make a whole video out of the years of drama surrounding the au. Flamesatgames supposedly trying to claim ownership of it because he owns Disbelief, the wars between Dusttrust devs and Last Breath that largely contributed to the end of preleak, I could go on.
I can get behind ditching the Papyrus and Core Encounters. Heck, even the Old Home open world segment.
But why, why get rid of Phase 4? The one thing that would make this stand out amongst all other fan games. It's literally just a generic Dusttrust game now.
Im sorry if it seems like I'm venting. But it's just so frustrating that we've been waiting around 2 years for this, just to learn that absolutely nothing different is being done.
I think exactly the same as you about this
Well that's the million dollar question: Why? Was it because of time reason? Stress from the team? Or just because they didn't give a shit??
i dont care about phase 4 in the slightest, if thats all you cared about, then why even still be in dusttrust as a whole, canon dusttrust is 2 phases, ari's is 3, melancholy's creators are bluntly horrible people, just leave if it bothers you this much, because ari is not going to bend over to meet your needs, sorry.
alots takes is cool amazing works man
Quality content
Ya cah never find this stuff nowadays.
Couls ya make one for dustbelief?
Less interesting but still
I would like to hear abt yhe takes and stuff
What happened to the full game?
why's scrapped?
I don't get it.
Probably there motivation ran out
There's different reasons why, but I'm pretty sure the main one is because of the team pressuring Ari to scrap the plans about the full game, because of the huge amount of work it would take.
Some others say it was mostly Ari's decision, but we probably won't ever know, because that's kept behind the scenes.
Hope that clears things up.
I had no idea because I never look on game jolt thanks for the information
The complete inspiration came from dustbelief(especially hoster version) and dusttale. I think that fdy was the only person who managed to make a complete game for legacy(even tho he split the phases in to 3 folders). I also remember that in a Chinese version of dustbelief you could change the fight. Where you can fight dustbelief or dusttrust. Both characters had different attacks.
One thing is the truth, we will die by natural reason before a Dusttrust gets a official game and doesnt give the ownership to other
What happened to DustTrust: blood moon?
Has Been Cancelled
They never really posted anything on the game's content, only occasionally posting concept art.
They also went silent for extended periods of time, sometimes for a year or something.
And then they just decided to delete the entire game page.
It got cancelled, which is a shame since it looked promising.
*pain*
It's so sad you haven't said anything about FDY's take :(
bro skipped the whole dusttrust history and moved straight on to the fangames💀
You're right. I apologize for this.
I wasn't part of the DustTrust community when it was in its first pre-leak era, and yeah, I know it's ironic. I joined the DustTrust community riiight after it got cancelled. (when the og dusttrust page was turned into a joke page)
Most of the old stuff got deleted, like the discord server and such.
The only archives I found of it was from the Wayback Machine, so I couldn't get much information from it.
Obviously, I could ask members of the OG DustTrust community, so if I ever remake this video again, I'll make sure to do that.
I hope you have a nice day.
@@CrimsonOST ahh you used the way back machine, I was wondering if you just kept screenshots of the pages from years ago
It's been almost 3 years since the release of the pre leak demo.
There’s just one thing I still don’t get
Thanatos was once called pre-leak, but does that mean that everything in pre-leak was gonna be originally in the game before it got leaked? Even then, it don’t make sense, as the sprites for pre-leak were completely different than the ones originally used in the game we all now today as dusttrust
Pre leak is just the name. There is nothing to do with the 'pre' leak version
@@vietcongat5884 but why would they call it that when it has no significant meaning? they could've just called it dusttrust if that was the case, but they didnt
@@randomnessradiator because it was originally the offical "preleak" the game was based of the pre-leaking of dusttrust, and it was crowned the offical preleak, the reason was because the canonical and pre-leak stories were different (so were the phases) and they needed to be separated, now underswap: thanatos is the name, this is because thanatos is the greek god of death.
its also based of Undertale: Thanatos.
its not called simply called dusttrust because it is no longer affiliated officially with dusttrust, therfore no need to have it in the name.
also left out the "canon dusttrust" and dillywolf ver
Every dusttrust fangames
REVAMP which more time
almost EVERYTHING they make would be scrapped and stuff and stuff etc etc it gonna take forever to release one if they just keep doing that
Dusttrust and scrapped just fit together magically for some reason...OH WAIT yeah there were like 10 things
What about Ari and Under Play conflict
There has been like only two people who have gotten close to a full good game qk and fdy. Fdy is go forever and qk lost phase 4. I really was excited and was hoping dusttrust could have finally rest knowing that it has a full game and a somewhat good community. But it looks like we might not get a full good game of dusttrust. For awhile
You should make a video on The unseen Ending just be more clear I’m talking about the games with Papyrus and gaster if I remember correctly there’s a bunch of canceled games I think that should be enough to make a video on it. sorry for any spelling mistakes
The fact that CrimsonOST didn't talked about this guy called "REALDUSTTRUSTOFFICIAL" on Gamejolt
it has all the phases (except phase 4) with the phase 1,phase 2 (virus?),phase 3 and the phase 3 (small monitor or something)
LOL I THINK I GOT THE PHASE 2 FROM THEM
you forgot about the "canon" ones, the ones before and after thanatos.
Dust trust will probably release when I turn 18. Which I will no doubt will probably play. Hopefully I won't forget about this fanbase though.
WAIT ?!?! THE MUSEUM WAS CANCELLED ?!?!
I just found out also
As someone who's been in this hellhole of a community ever since the Sawsk era, I'm disappointed by the amount of missinformation, not to mention all the things that weren't mentioned like the ownership debate, the Demo Cezar controversies, Sawsk's copyright strikes, etc. I'd suggest to make this video private/unlisted for you to remake it with the missing information being included, most importantly the current state of the canon dusttrust, the official reboot
so, legacy, pre leak, treo, ari, thanatos, then we will see later?
It's real bizarre how this edgy ass fangame became so much more than what it was built out of, seeing as the og premise is a roundabout way of having yet another "edgy sans fight who is angr and want kil you," which was getting kind of boring by the time this was even conceived. Not that I'm complaining, it's become my second favorite AU and my most anticipated fangame, mainly because of nostalgia.
Something to note about the AU as a whole is how it survives from its osts, seeing as i don't think any official version of dusttrust has had an incomplete soundtrack at this point, counting it's original debut to now with Thanatos, and likely DillyWolfs as well in the future (or whatever the hell is going on there, seriously what is the official take anymore?) It makes sense that it became extra dependent on music in the games themselves that like to have the music cue up certain parts when you progress, along with being flashy as all hell.
In my opinion, scrapping full game is dissapointing but removing phase 4 from dusttrust was worst decision. Everyone was waiting for this phase and it looked pretty original. underswap thanatos - i hate this name, why underswap and not dustswap? Why thanatos? Is thanos gonna be in this game ? Ari really dissapointed me and i hope that atleast canon dusttrust will be better.
I mean, It does make sense in a way, since Dusttrust is a Timeline of Dustswap/Swapdust, WHICH is a Timeline of Underswap, and the name Thanatos could be because of that one greek god or something, or maybe even Thanatophobia
As for phase 4, It pretty much was a stretch, but i do see why people were mad because of its removal
I guess he wasn't the one to finish the job rip.
Look mom I'm there
Was there a pre-legacy (by legacy i mean 5 phased version) Dusttrust era where Sans had a giant purple axe instead of a sword? I've seen it a couple times but I don't know if it was actually ever a thing apart from a few fangames like ZY's classic Dusttrust.
Personally I think it looks a lot cooler than the sword version, especially when Dustbelief is usually designed with swords
I believe the axe is from the reboot era, after legacy but before preleak.
Smashed Skull Era:
My favorite Dusttrust era tbh, wish it got covered more
also dillywolf took ownership of dusttrust with underswap thanatos (i think)
Underswap thanatos is now ari's dusttrust take and dillywolf owns canon dusttrust
where qk dusttrust 😭
You forgot about QK dusttrust
Did I really miss 2 years of information
Dam I’m really really late
Nice timeline. Could you do an Scarlet flare one too?
Dude, Scarlet Flare is another take of Dusttrust. Problably is not the most popular, but is my favorite.
But a way different take
bro didnt mention kasssm era or dilly's dusttrust
you should've talked about Nikolas's era of dusttrust and all of that stuff too in the vid. otherwise, you basically had all the points down.
Where is QK dusttrust?
hey man hi can i use your video for a dusttrust video?
Go ahead. The stuff here isn't my content either (i credited them in the video).
Just credit me in the description or something, that will do.
@@CrimsonOST thanks men
thankfully dusttrust isnt canon
nahh wheres my man kassm era?
u kinda missed like 2-3 reboots the game had
thank god somebody made this video...
So it's true that this fandom as a high number of toxic people. well that's sad.
What are your thoughts on canon dustswap? Aka the butterfly effect? Do you think it deserves the infamous reputation it has or not?
Apparently, Kasssm transferred ownership of Dusttrust to Nickolas, with Ari as its coder (thanatos is stilĺ happening)
But Nick haven’t said that Dusttrust is gone. So we still have a canon Dusttrust right?
@@cinarthestartlittlewolt5658 Basically, yes. But it’s different
@@krispy2763 yea,ik
Yes! Dillywolf made Nick's Dusttrust canon again, so the game is getting worked on now.
Phase 1 won't change much, but phase 2 will get changed a lot.
Hope that clears things up.
Game had so much potential but the community had to ruin it. Is that hard to mind your own business and wait until christmas to open your present while their getting it ready?
You might had forgotten about me lol
I leaked and mostly destroyed gh-animations Dusttrust lol
My Reaction to that information: 🤔😨💀🥶😃😢🤡🤣
I'll never forgive them for incorporating the once official Dusttrust, into the Thanatos whatever the heck.
Not even called Dusttrust anymore
Underswap Thanatos is NOT even canon Dusttrust lol, it's a simple take, it's just that it's pretty much the closest thing we will have for a Dusttrust fangame
@@r0z557 . . . yeah, cause it took over the current one
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this aged horribly
@@Seleneous yeah true
@@Seleneous i dont get it can you explain please
You give discord?
I don’t like fnaf is real x infinity