From Software's Dark Souls with Guns | Shadow Tower Abyss
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This might be the worst youtube compression has ever ruined the visuals of a video, very cool
AC6 will most likely not win Game of the Year sadly.
Might be a big ask but maybe you could reupload in 4k? Even watching it on a lower res display makes use of the higher bitrate so it will look better.
*me watching in 240p* shit looks fire yo
@@diamondhamster4320i will refuse the fact until it happens at december
@@diamondhamster4320it won my game of the year which is the only one I give a shit about
Btw theres an artbook with enemy descriptions and the person you mentioned being the "spear king" was actually a king that was in conflict with the spear king and was captured and sacrificed to the tower, the spear king is the guy on the manual and he lacked the shield like object that enemy has (which through a translator says that hes called Quidle Mandus of the mandas tribe", also the tower itself is an "ark" but it is described as plant like being that came from a dying world that needed other beings to live since it needs other beings energy. It crash landed and lost its 'thrusters' on earth and the reason it doesnt grow like a normal plant is due to the earth sunlight destroying its cells. It also mention it reverted back into a seed at first i think.
Something the artbook mentions is that the towers goal is "to sustain life" and fear its extinction. Some time later it realized it stored energy may run out but once creatures started entering the tower it realized that fusing itself with the creatures it may be able to create beings able to handle the surface, but all the creatures rejected this fusion and as stated the tower itself "grieved" as it seems to enjoy creating and sustaining life
it should be said the artbook mentions that the "spear" was a real object that was created by the tower as a way to give power to the ruler ie the spear king to capture kingdoms and "sacrifice" them which is just the tower fusion itself with humans . As time went on the spear "voice" (im assuming the "will" but the translation is a bit iffy). The spear lost it voice due to the tower essentially fusing with too many humans with alot of them being considered "failures". The spear king didnt know this and in his old age the spear "spoke" to him but its unknown if it was the tower or the kings mind going crazy. The king entered the tower never to return but mentioned to his people "keep sacrificing people until i return (this is iffy since the translator says until you return)". It should be mentioned the old man the guide in the beginning of the game lured you in into the tower along with the scout unit as mentioned in the manual.
This part explains the ending but the girl with the horns "Luflon" but also Rurufon, is considered the first successful fusion of the tower and a human being as all the other ones either died prematurely, lack intelligence or was considered a failure. The ending shows she able to conquer the "sun/light" that the plant was unable to and all the creatures inside. Due to her being considered a successful fusion the "will" of the tower doesnt effect her. It should be noted she herself doesnt know that she can survive the surface world and so entrust the player since shes under the belief only perfect beings (humans who can survive the surface of earth) are strong enough to destroy the tower/the greater will. Apperently she hates the tower for creating the spear since the Spear king killed her parents which were other fusions the tower conducted (the translation says just the generic word of plant whenever mention the tower but its obvious the tower/great will). It should be said but the npc that looks like Rurufon at the final boss is a "negative" luflon/rurufon that is under the influence of the tower but her birth is shrouded in mystery as said by the guide. I have no idea why she loses the horns though.
Also the setting is inspired by apperently cambodia/thailand and that in asia theres a lot of dense forest with ruins that nobody discovers for hundred of years. Makes sense since the art book mentions the great spear king kingdom after thousands of years and him disappearing was reduced down to a small tribe that still holds on the tradition of sacrificing people to the tower.
So you mentioning how the the being/god is "sad" is because it essentially think it failed in its mission to sustain life since it doesnt know that Rurufon was actually a success due to her connection to the tower being severed. So in the end her eye changing it showing that yes in its final moments its creation was able to walk onto the surface it crash landed on conquering the light of the world. Should also mention as a fun fact but the MC was just a security for explorers i think and that he was convinced to go into the tower since the old man said there was treasure inside from a lost kingdom.
I can link you the artbook (its just on internet archive in alright quality) and you probably translate better since i just used basic google translate and its 50/50 how accurate it is, the interview with the main director was hard to understand. Should also say I only translated like 15 pages of the 60ish page artbook the beginning which explains the backstory , some enemy bios and the interview, i didnt read the map guide or most of the enemies as there might be more missing information I didnt bother reading since its late af right now as I am typing this and just translated whatever caught my eye.
Therse alot of things that you obviously tell influenced there future games (pretty much the archetype in the souls game of a maiden helping you get stronger probably started in this game and considering how priscilla may be based on this character of Rurufon its not that much of a stretch.) The priscilla connection makes more sense to me since both of them are being that are "fusions" with Rurufon being half plant tower/human and priscilla being dragon/human, as well with Priscilla at one point in development being the "maiden" of dark souls 1.
I genuinely wonder how many Fromsoftware games that have "hidden lore " just dont have translated or unknown artbooks/guides and so the western fanbase thinks every game they make is purposely cryptic
Dang, they put the whole-ass story in the artbook.
I guess this means it's not the same universe as the original Shadow Tower or there was a retcon. Since Rurufon is definitively a demon in that one. I was expecting that this took place in the future of Shadow Tower PS1, the Crown became a spear and that the world of the original game was just one of the many worlds that the Tower landed on and infected over the years
People have said they need to remake Bloodborne. I diverge there. THIS game is the one that needs a remake!
That Lunacid shoutout is appreciated, it's one of the most interesting and fun to explore games I've played in a while. Hoping that the recent appreciation for King's Field adjacent games spurs more indie devs to make games in this style.
That game's visuals look like King's Field, but the gameplay is too fast paced and lacks the weight of KF, it has unfitting anime characters in it and the creator is a furry vtuber guy.
Really not sure what to make of it, hard to make a connection with KF besides the visuals.
@@mister_milkmanthe gameplay is very similar
@@ScrodumHat
He just told you it isn't, your reply is worthless.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 i literally played them both and i found the combat similar, doesn’t really matter if he told me it isn’t. you’d be hard pressed to find another modern game that comes as close to kings field as lunacid does
check out Dread Dellusion, incredibly fun game
the old Fromsoft games are so beautiful. God i love the atmosphere they have
I really like the late ps1 early ps2 era from soft they were really experimenting and laying the ground work for a lot of there modern stuff they should start doing experimental games it would be good for the industry
They do it's just the popularity of garbage is huge. So have fun finding something while you sift through a million anime text romance games.
The OG Shadow Tower on PS1 is my favorite. King's Field IV: The Ancient City is my favorite of their PS2 dungeon crawlers. There's also Eternal Ring, which has a cool ring crafting system. For another obscure 1st person dungeon crawler in a similar vein to these early Fromsoft games, check out Hungry Ghosts (PS2), which also sadly was never localised. Peace.
Hungry ghost has been on my review list for a year and a half now. Want to make a vid on it soon since it seems I’ll be holding out for an English patch till the sun explodes
"All of these things are sadly left unanswered and the last 10-15 minutes are kind of a wet fart."
So it's a post-Kingsfield III/pre-Dark Souls Fantasy From Soft game, understood. 8/10.
You dislike Dark Souls?
KING'S FIELD DARK REALITY OST HELL YEAEAAAAAH
I think maybe the best way to describe the Great Will in this game would probably be like a cosmic pitcher plant. However, unlike a pitcher plant, the Great Will is something that gained self awareness but was never meant to, and is now trapped within a "body" that cannot move or feel. It is as much a prisoner of the tower as the player is, but unlike the player doesn't even have the illusion of one day gaining freedom. It only has endless existential despair, devoid of hope.
A real shame that it was almost localized, even if it did it would have a niche following over time as another hidden gem on the PS2.
I was legit just playing this old game during this september and October.
What a coincidence. Glad your talking about it.
Also One of my favorites too.
Next to ER and KF4:TAC.
Of the PS2 FromSoftware Trilogy.
The Classic 1st Person Dungeon Crawler RPG.
I really like the atmosphere.
Again thanks for talking about this game.
Would love to see you play the other games some day.
Looking forward for that.
3:48 Funny. That reminds me of Helmsman and Arsman from Yokai Watch. They are clearly 2 parts of a suit of armor. That can be fused to create the Yokai Reuknight.
A wild Yokai Watch reference! It's been so long, glad to see someone else still enjoys it :)
Always a pleasure to see more content on this game, thanks for the vid!
Shadow Tower Abyss was a game I found more than a decade ago upon recommendation from someone. It's really cool and from an earlier era before from got pigeonholed into making souls games for 10 odd years.
I want more than anything else from From Software that they do another first person RPG horror adventure style game
Shadow Tower 1: What if King's Field but spookier (not to be confused with Echo Night who's more of an adventure game)
Shadow Tower Abyss: ...G U N
I'll admit, I chuckled when I saw the thumbnail in my feed; I mainly associate you with the action games videos and the Yu-Gi-Oh videos rather than you talking about other game genres (the Dino Crisis video being a notable exception). Shadow Tower Abyss being more of an RPG with slower action compared to Armored Core who's more "swift action" oriented. I wish you a good time in this FromSoft mood!
Its funny how many years i loved the souls series as one of my favorite things ever, but now that ive finally explored their other games i found out i like some of those WAY more then souls. Armored core especially felt made for me
thnx for making this video dude was looking for a nice oldschool game for my steamdeck already 2 hours into it
been waiting for this one from you this is an amazing unknown game
The spear was literaly the people that we meet along the way
Was waiting for you to review this not gonna lie it's a pretty fun game lol
well said about the look and feel. its so hard to explain whats going on with this game, but u nailed it. also i can 100% agree about the part with the nostalgia of a game you have never played. props, you found good words to describe this game.
videos like these really make me want to make enough space for a crt and my ps2 to try out more obscure games that i missed out on
This is a game series i would love to see get a modern remake. I would love to see if Fromsoft can enhance the feeling this game creates with a graphical overhaul or if this ruins it (i would buy it either way... played the first game with my Uncle who translated it for me on the fly and played Abyss witht he fan translation) :P
Everyone is obsessed with draw distance and whatnot in the modern age just because we don't have the technical limitations of the past but.. I really really like FOG games.. running cyberpunk with that mod that adds back in the dust storms, it's my favorite time to run around the city. I wish I would make it come back, and this is a really good example of a good fog game.
Yes! It gives a feeling of discovery as you approach the clearing fog and see new enemies or environments. Having such a massive draw distance almost takes a bit of adventure out of games imo
I really love how when you pick up at weapon it is pointed at your face.
Played this during cvid lockdown blasted off edibles and it was a very enjoyable experience.
I read that as "cvit" lockdown and I was like omg what happened to him 🤣
The premise of dungeon crawler with modern firearms reminds me of Bungie's Pathways into Darkness.
I never knew Shadow Tower had a sequel! ST is such a damn hidden gem of a game and I wish From would make other games such as this again. I understand though that it wouldn't be for everyone so it's not likely.
I wish there was a way to play Shadow Tower with modern (Lunacid) controls that's the only flaw in it (Well that and pretending that durability matters after getting health Regen and the repair spell)
imagine buying this on release, taking it home, finding out it is all in japanese......that was soul crushing, i kept on until i reached a dead end and gave up and threw the game inside the closet, over a decade later i found out u have to give an NPC a certain item, he would leave and found the item u needed to move on on his now empty seat.
u should have talked more about how the enemies carry their dead, how a flying ant u could destroy the wings and it now had to walk...but seeing 2 ants carrying a dead ant to their base was insane.
the part where ur eyes adjust to the darkness was insane.
the fact that ur avatar looks like scribbles is a nice touch.
great game, i just wish there was a fan made patch in the early 2000s or at least a translation online....
i can't wait for the KF video...
u should also cover ETERNAL RING...that game had a really cliffhanger ending and it will never be resolved.
Handsome to see folks getting more and more into the old Fromsoft games. I grew up playing the original PSX game, and it was a treat to finally see an english patch for Abyss, after all this time.
Thanks for reviewing this game, one of the best games on the ps2, the pre dark souls fromsoft games had a atmosphere and charm that was unique too them
Funny how I just watched the Majuular video on King's Field that failed to cover Shadow Tower and you have this uploaded to make up for it.
Holy shit at 1:11 that's the same sound G4 tv used for the intro for Icons! That's pretty wild I somehow even remembered that.
Im glad you played this one, its one of the best from games, ashame it never game here.
I’ve only ever really heard of this game. It’s really interesting to see where FromSoftware came from. You can still see a lot of the tropes from new games even back then.
I appreciate the kings field music in this video. Ty dad ❤
Let's fucking goo another cvit video WOOO!! Shadow tower abyss really looks so cool I love the vibe it has
When you said "Will of the world" it reminded me of something from the manga "Helck"
This look kind of amazing!
makes you nostalgic too, (you mentioned nostalgia the exact moment I started typing this)
That baltimore comment had me howlin my guy 💯
What would be funny is if From does release a sequel. They’re so big now people will buy anything with From making it, and ‘Dark Soils with Guns’ also sells itself!
I've seen quite a few videos at this point which mention how Dark Souls 2 almost feels like a spiritual successor to these older From Soft titles. I definitely see it, hence why, to the dismay of many, it is my favorite Souls game. It just has such a strangeness to it, it feels like a dream. I dont know how else to describe it, it just a very eccentric title.
Don't forget about the first Shadow Tower on PSX. Many believe it's even more awesome!
Why? It seems very blocky and mazey
@@QuantumTelephoneblocky and mazey aren't real words
@@simone105someone doesn't understand linguistics.
I would LOVE to see this IP revisited.
"It's like talking to someone from Baltimore."
As an actual Baltimoron, can confirm.
Living in Baltimore is like living in Blighttown from Dark Souls 1.
This game recommendation segment's kinda nice 😺
That monster from Baltimore though 😂
i miss the yellow font, and the old SBS channel. as it was the only way in Australia, during the early 2000's to see and watch anime, and anime movies or just good foreign movies. I miss it so much, there is still nothing like it in over a decade. the only way i was exposed to gungrave, berserk and samurai champloo/cowboy bebop was through my older brother's childhood best friend who worked at a video easy, he would pop up, and was nice enough to give me VHS copies of them, miss recording the shows on VHS as well. those were some good years, where i can say i used to watch tv. i haven't enjoyed tv mostly for over a decade since. there's just not good tv shows or movies played anymore. the new sbs and viceland was alright, the movies still play, but the adult swim and tv shows have changed and left.
getting a lobotomy once i see tiktok or instagram shorts on tv locally.
the first few minutes and im sold.. fromsoft.. the visuals color palet.. level design.. forgotten dreams is also a perfect analogy... im not even going to finnish this video i have to try it first
Did you?😁
Really wish they'd make more fantasy medieval games with guns in them, so much potential honestly
The weight system for most of the game is just tedious, but is used to great effect in the late game level GREED.
The great will... like the Greater Will
Looks very foreboding yet interesting
havent played Abyss yet put PS1 Shadow Tower is one of my all time faves. You should check that out imo
As someone from baltimore, i appreciate the shout out my jittelyang utenpumps 💯 you got a sub
Its real only main issue (besides some combat stuff) is that it doesn't stick the landing. The end needs polishing.
That ear piercing shriek and over encumbrance segment had me laughing, i'll emulate this for sure :3
I watched Matt mcmuscles and his buddy Liam do a full LP of this and it’s pretty cool
I’ve been on a PS2 kick lately, I’ll have to see if I can acquire this one!
Sound design in the 90's was on a whole another level.
And that was their last FPP+RPG game?
Who knows, maybe some day we get a new one? I'm really starved for first person RPGs...
also nice trick (bug?) - putting highest DMG weapon in 2nd slot gives more damage to the weapon in the 1st slot. Even when you don't use 2nd slot.
I love this game, it's so sick
When I played the original i couldnt get far and I dont have a ps2 to play the sequel
just spotted a milkweed rune this feels like where bloodborne great ones come from
i love from software games but its funny to see have been making souls games way before I was born, It even has the same old backstory of forgotten all powerful king they basically use in all games.
I love meti:not the bad guy!
play at 130% emulation speed for a more exciting and responsive experience. Shadow Tower is a bit like an Iron Maiden song, a bit longer and slower than it has any business being but still amazing if you just get through it.
i beat the whole game like this btw. i beat it at 130% speed and i used an app to put a crosshair on my screen.
Did the gameplay and uneasy vibe of this game remind anyone else of Scorn?
I feel this Shadow Tower Anyss could have been a good blueprint to flesh out the short duration of Scorn
Great video. Was there any reason you didn't touch on magic, or did you just find yourself not really using it? It's not really that practical in my opinion.
Ok so, gemerally in these older kings field style games, you can get a kind of "set bonus". Iirc, wearing all the samurai gear just gives you a stat buff. I think. I could be wrong on this.
Which FromSoft games pre-Demons Souls are worth playing? I tried playing King's Field and it has been obliterated by time.
Cool vid
It would be fantastic to see Fromsoft do some kind of remake, reboot, or spiritual successor for this game. It would be a nice change from the Soulsborne formula we're used to.
FINALLY THIS GAME GETS THE PRAISE IT DESEEEEEERVES WOOOHOO
I've seen a few videos on this game (or at least 1 other) and never really felt the vibe till now. It legit does look like one of my video game nightmares and it makes me want it even more. Really want a Soulslike interpretation of this mostly cause I prefer 3rd over 1st person. The idea of a isekai Soulslike where you play as a largely plain clothes character that is genuinely an outsider of the world and not just "new in town" is interests me. Plus pulling out a gun on a demon would be rad.
The problem is the modern guns, third person shooters are rarely good, so it's better to be in first person.
If you haven't already, you should play Blood Will Tell? It's the most "unique '7/10' PS2 action game" I've ever played. I think you'd love it, it'd be interesting to hear what you think.
nice channel bro
I'm like, "hmm i watched this yugioh funny anime moments, who was that guy?" this guy, that was this guy xD
lunacid is so dope
Your voice is recognizable
I hope FS goes back to their old games and expands them. This one and Kings Field deserve to come to the modern generation
HELL YEAH
NGL FromSoftware does need to make a Souls-like with Guns.
My dream since DS1 has been they make a video game adaptation of the manga “Blame!”which I think would fit their style perfectly
I need to dl this to my ps2 hd
Reminds me of Scorn
Recently watched challenge a video on this game of Guns Only.
And it becomes a sudo resident evil survival horror
idk why but it really gives me the same vibes as pathalogic
Does it have a moonlight great sword?
To be honest, the difficulty curve wasn't so massive even at the start. RNG will give you potions but even then I was never out of items. It was all about just wanting to stay very cautious. Using guns were a last resort or for enemies I didn't want to even risk getting hit by. Very comfortable adventure, just requires some caution and thinking. Great game.
What will it take to get GX Season 3?
Also, there is Monomyth..
Would you ever cover the Otogi games from the same developer?
On the list of things to cover. Was at one point gonna cover them leading up to the release of elden ring but that plan fell through
Drakengard retrospective? Fuck yesssss. My ps2 copy is precious to me. Messy. Fun. Odd. Fun.
It’s really like talking to someone from Baltimore 😂
Such a shame we never got this in America
Time passes but the base plot is always the same lmao
When does this game come out?