Top 20 Strongest Cobra Kai Fighters
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2022
- For a show about fighting, you know "Cobra Kai" has some pretty strong fighters. For this list, we’ll be looking at the most impressive martial artists we’ve seen in Cobra Kai’s first four seasons. As much as we loved Mr. Miyagi, we’ll only focus on characters who appear outside of flashbacks. And since we’ll be talking about where all the fighters stack up to each other by the season 4 finale, beware of major spoilers ahead. Our countdown includes Miguel Diaz, Daniel LaRusso, Kyler Park, Tory Nichols, and more! Who’s your favorite martial artist on “Cobra Kai”? Let us know in the comments below.
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I agree with all the comments here that chozen should have been above Terry silver
Seems like Mr Myagi is the strangest he beat kreese no problem
Why do I watch WatchMojo? This list is awful. The coked out guy from Karate Kid 3 somehow is number 1. This list is whack…… yo.
Ummm Miguel was boutta whoop hawk before he pulled a muscle
Shawn Payne deserved more respect, aint no way he’s losing to Piper, Kyler, Dimitri, Tori, or that new girl from Kobra Kai, he won against Robby every time and the only time Robby came close was a stalemate.
We all know who the real goat will forever be 🕊🪦 RIP Mr. Miyagi
Miyagi solos everyone in the seires
@@2muchsparky16 That’s true.
He is not greatest of all time he's a goat 🐐 means mehh...😂😂
@@jeraldk8896 😐
Rip Miyagi
Chozen kept training his whole life, im absolutely sure he's the strongest fighter right now.
Season 5 edit: Welp confirmed. Even if Terry sucker slashed him at the end, Chozen won the fight while drunk, pure badass!
yea i agree he should be number one
Yeah definitely. He was so much stronger than Daniel that it should be an obvious #1 placement for him.
I think it should’ve been 1. Chozen 2. Daniel and 3. Terrence
@@abritraryhandle nah terry would fuck daniel up, not even just physically all he would need to do is call back some old memories
@@nish8399 maybe mentally, but physically I’m sure Daniel could use the same technique he used on Kreese and, failing that, whatever that thing on the scroll that his kid found was would probably be quite effective.
how Is nobody talking how he put Hawk over Robby and Miguel💀
In my opinion, id put him before Tory and Sam
@@miguelcosta5224 right
I’d put him over Robby but not miguel
You have to give an update on this, miguel at the moment is much stronger than eli, in his battles in season 5 he hardly gets hit by anyone, while eli and keene lost/got hit hard some battles. And Johnny managed to beat at least 5 of the best senseis of cobra kai under the command of silver, besides that larusso won against terry and obliterated him.
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Well technically silver was weak and injured after that gruesome battle with chozen and I don’t agree with Eli over Miguel or even Robby and tbh chozen could’ve very well beat terry
Fr Miguel should be better than hawk
@@lileinthehouse8346They are both good but I think Miguel is a bit better, I also don’t think Piper is better than Demetri or Kenny. 😂 And Kyler is not that good either.
We all want to see Chozen Vs Silver in Season 5.
A fighter who never stopped fighting could be what it takes to bring down a psycho like Silver.
Discipline... 👍
Plus even though Silver stopped training Cobra Kai ever since The Karate Kid Part lll, he is still tough and strong, this proves that he is a true Cobra, and which is why Daniel warned Johnny to not strike first with TERRY SILVER.
That would be cool
But
I'd rather see how Chosen and Barnes match up, they have always been compared on who was the stronger opponent to Daniel
There should be a fight between them bc only one way to find who’s the best
chozen would wipe silver he has decades of experience over him and can disable his fucking limbs
terry's busted but he's been at it for like 6 weeks after a lifetime of not fighting
As much as I love Terry Silver... I think Chozen should be above him. Hopefully next season we get to see Silver vs Chozen! That would be epic!
I think we will can't wait for next season.
I cannot wait either it’ll be phenomenal
Mike vs Chozen would be more epic. I'm petty sure Mike got stronger and learnt new techniques.
@@andymartinez2497 Mike wouldn’t give two shits about Cobra Kai and their drama lmao. He was only part of Cobra Kai because Terry was paying him. Even Mike probably put fighting behind him years ago, but Chozen would easily kick his ass.
Chozen would end him
I’m hoping that, in season 6, Shawn Payne comes back and sees what Cobra Kai has done to his little brother and tries joining Miyagi Do and bringing his brother to the light
YEEESSSSSS!!!!!
You do know cobra Kai is gone right
@@potatopotatop2514 we don’t know that for sure sense (you know who) got out
@@jaketane1717 yeah that’s fair but I don’t think they will be the main villains
nah he will be Cobra Kai 100%!
Coming back from Season 5 and Chozen destroyed Silver and HE WAS DRUNK! If he wasn't distracted, he would've ended Silver
Silver was also drunked and older
@@visionary7975 He also had a sword, Chozen overpowered him still in fist combat as well as he beat him with weaponry. A distracted costed him that battle. They had to hella nerf him to for season 5 and he was still overpowered.
Daniel Larusso is the strongest because Larusso defeated Silver at the end of season 5
@@starter47990 Terry was exhausted though
@@deadrock1678 true
Chozen is definitely the strongest out of them all.
Under Miyagi
Nope ….
Terry is better. He is a Vietnam veteran who has killed people, on top of his military training he was personally trained by Kreese. I see Daniel, Chozen, and Johnny as 3 equals who need to come together to create a style that beats Terry because Terry is that good
@@king_vision4085 Na no way. Chozen is easily the strongest of them all, simply because unlike the others, he never stopped studying karate. Terry did nothing related to Karate for over 30 years. No way in hell he can beat Chozen. That being said, the strongest fighter doesnt mean the strongest students immediately. I assume season 5 will have a lot of new Cobra Kai students with them opening a lot of franchises while the other dojos are gonna basically keep being really small and maybe even lose students. It will be somewhat of a David v. Goliath type fight.
@@smokeychickenwings1038 Characters like Kenny and Piper haven't trained as long as Chris and Penis Breathe and still placed higher in the All Valley. Proving that training longer doesn't automatically make you better. Terry has Vietnam training which teaches you how to kill with your bare hands on top of Kreese as a personal teacher. That makes him far more deadly than Chozens karate. Thats why Daniel and Chozen are teaming up to take down Terry. Because Terry is better than them.both individually.
Hawk's really come a long way since season 1, him defeating Robby was THE highlight of the finale.
That and maybe the fight between LaRusso vs Lawerence when they both knock each other out at the same time
@@cailieisidro5758 it sure was awesome that ended a fight in a draw
Hawk seems to get the best scenes. Him saving and then teaming up with Demitri is still my favorite.
I disagree Sam versus Tori is way better. But I'm also a big fan of Tori so. I might be biased and at the end of the day the fight between them two caused all this more so than Johnny and Daniel's rivalry.
My favorite was Kenny getting his revenge on Lapusso and his friends 😂Just W writing to set up his villain arc
in my opinion, Miguel is a little stronger than Hawk because Miguel trained longer
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I think Tori and Devon would make a very interesting match in the future, since both had incredible potential and a competitive mentality
nice guessing lol u got it
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Tory with a Y
I feel like Miguel is for sure the best teenager fighter in he show. I see why they put Hawk above him, because he’s still recovering, but if you compare them both in their prime, Miguel is clearly the best.
if you put hawk in miguel’s place i can guarantee he wouldn’t be as far as miguel. if miguel never had the injury i can also guarantee he would’ve won the all valley.
Robby is better than Miguel.
nope this video is correct miguel was the best but Eli is the most killer when he is his alter ego Hawk, also he has trained the hardest
@@prodbyaye8751 has hawk had his legs tied together while underwater in a pool? has hawk had his back injured and had to wait several months to even walk again? even then miguel was going to kick hawk’s ass at the all valley. obviously hawk is more “killer” because miguel IS the balance between both dojos. and don’t you ever say hawk has trained the hardest because miguel has trained way harder.
robby hasn’t beat miguel yet. miguel won both of those fights. and he would’ve kicked both hawk and robby’s asses if not for the injury.
Chozen is all grown up and let me tell you, he kicks a whole lotta ass. Having continued his training under Mr. Sato and been given access to all the teachings of Okinawan karate, he is now a master of them all, and probably the only character we’ve seen so far who could possibly match the late and great Mr. Miyagi himself. His sparring match with Daniel clearly shows he is head and shoulders above Mr. Miyagi’s favourite student now.
Chozen is a good fighter but that you do him on the same steps with Sensei Miyagi, well, you dream a lot at the moment. Miyagi is legendary, then no one comes along no Chozen or LaRusso and certainly not such a Wannabe Superfighter as Silver.
@@aleksspacy7979 I agree...Im pretty sure Miyagi knows more than Sato and Chozen given the fact that it is Miyagi's family karate. His father wouldn't give all family secrets away.
Actually, Daniel gave him a pretty good fight though in Okinawa, even without the extra teachings.
@@kbanghart true but I suspect Chozen held back, most likely to see how far Daniel had come. No point squashing him. You learn nothing that way. Also he was clearly building up for that finish in the fight.
@@allenchu3969 this is a much debated topic on the Internet. I myself am on the side of Miyagi being the best period. However other debate that where Miyagi left Okinawa at a young age, Sato likely still trained under Miyagi's father and could have actually been the stronger of the 2 fighters. Its a shame we never saw this showdown if nothing else just to simply answer that question, but yes I agree, Miyagi was the better fighter as far as I am concerned. The fact he could break that log answered it as far as I'm concerned but certainly food for thought
Johnny Lawrence is by far my favorite. His old school approach to life and his love for all things 80s make him the funnest fighter to watch.
Robby is insanely skilled
Chozen is easily the strongest fighter in Cobra Kai. I can't wait to see him face off with Silver in Season 5. A perfectly balanced Miyagi-do fighter vs. A fighter that's a bigger psycho than Kreese.
But this is the top 20 strongest. Terry has so many other advantages outside the matt, he could trick Chozen, use his money, his Genius mind, really anything. Chozen is a more skilled fighter but his overall power is not as strong as Silvers power in the series
@@williams3552 chozen is Rich
Once silver is gone then what ?? The show is over ? Silver is the last big baddie left
@@quasar4601 Don’t forget about Mike Barnes, Barnes will likely be defeated before Terry Silver making Silver the last man standing.
@@williams3552 Strongest *fighters* means all this "outside the mat" stuff doesn't really matter all that much.
If I hire a guy to shoot you in the face, does that make me the stronger fighter? Of course not. That would be absurd.
Miguel got the biggest nerf ever, yet he is still the chosen one
word idk how they can do that to him in his prime he’s unstoppable
idk probably because he broke his spine
Don’t worry I’m sure he’ll be strong again
Don't forget Johnny Cured His Asthma And His Legs
@T1 Mlurzy bruh
Miguel is / will be the best Karate kid Universe Martial Artist of all time
My favorite is Hawk after he redeems himself
Devon had 6 weeks of training and made it all the way to the quarter finals. That just screams prodigy to me and she'll be a huge beast next season, hope we see more of her.
and lost to the champion as well, her character became so interesting in the matter of 1 minute of screen time 😭
* 5 min screen time but shell hopefully have more ST in S4
the real prodigy is Kenny.......thats gon be a scary character
Devon is like if Johnny sensei has a daughter 😂 Hope to see more of her too
Semi finals i believe it was Tory Sam Piper and Devon in the semi finals
I feel hawk should be under Miguel, Miguel has defeated hawk several times, and in the last season he decided to not continue but I’m really sure he would win the all valley
frrrr
@@tonystarksopranomd yeah but Miguel in the last fight with the flying kick he would win so easy
@@pastiy.1970 Not easy But je would
I don’t like Silver, but I do like Chozen. Chozen would kick Silver face in, literally!
Yes and hawk should be lower than Robby, Robby was about to when until he heard kenny talking to him
Putting Hawk above Miguel and Robby is just ridiculous, Miguel would’ve beaten Hawk in S4s all valley, and if Kenny didn’t distract Robby Robby would’ve beaten him too. Hawk is simply overrated.
Facts
@@bazt1n I know right, super unpopular opinion
@@darkredstone395 not to me
In my opinion the bottom 10 are very messy and scattered, I would've definitely changed it up a bit in my rankings. But still very well-made put together video Good Job!
I love how chozen went really likeable when he went like “honk”
It feels like it shows chozen has calmed down
That knife Hand to trachea is a death 💀 blow
He got that from Daniel
Terry Silver has come full circle and finally become the “Anti-Miyagi”.
They’re both elder masters of Karate. War Veterans who’ve found renewed purpose in life by becoming teachers and passing on their experience. And they are both excellent at it but from opposite sides of the spectrum….
Miyagi is very Short at 5’3, Soft spoken, Stoic, Caring, Hates Fighting, Culturally represents the best of Eastern values, prefers to teach individual students and lives a Modest lifestyle as a Maintenance Attendant.
Silver is very Tall at 6’5, Extroverted, Charismatic, Manipulative, Loves Fighting, Culturally represents the worst of Western values, wants to build a franchise with many students to teach and lives a Lavish lifestyle as an Entrepreneur.
It’s literally perfect!!!!
Good observation, that never occurred to me.
Those are some pretty good connections I agree
Get get what you are saying, but IMO it was much better when they were displaying pqradigmas of Daniel and Johnny. one accomplished borehole with seemingly perfect life and no gut and the other one A wreck with messed up life, but however, much more honest and likeable.
By the time silver was like this. Miyagi died, Chozen was not nearly as strong as miyagi in KK2. But Chozen trained ever since Daniel beat him. So now I think Chozen is like miyagi but a little bit more aggressive
and myagi beat silver in like 30 seconds not even breaking a sweat
I literally think that in a future season Terry is going to find out the secret techniques of Miyagi-do and he will be unstoppable. Johnny and Daniel are at the same level I think
Daniel and Johnny the same level as silver? No
Robby realized that cobra kai was awful for kenny just like when Johnny realized that cobra Kai was awful for Miguel
Like father like son
@@labrosvariamis2813 ikr
Chozen is stronger than Terry Silver. he's a lifelong master at Miyagi-Do, meaning he's far more centered and balanced in both his mind and soul. Terry, who is incredibly tough and a master of Cobra Kai, has issues regarding PTSD among others. He's not as balanced in his mind, or soul. In fact, he's seemingly reverted back to his former self. Chozen can beat him... maybe not easily, but he can put him down handedly, and even convincingly.
The video thinks stingray can beat shawn
Do u think he could beat mike barns
But this is the top 20 strongest. Terry has so many other advantages outside the matt, he could trick Chozen, use his money, his Genius mind, really anything. Chozen is a more skilled fighter but his overall power is not as strong as Silvers power in the series
Maybe but I think it's fair to go based on what we've "seen"
@@jaymc310 yess Terry > Mike
As much as I love Hawk. And he really has been my favorite character ever since he became Hawk. Miguel at 100% loses to nobody
I LOVE Miguel... 😊😊😊👍👍👍
Except a railing
@@ran1743 that was just uncalled for bro...💀
@@ran1743 bro did miguel dirty
yes.
perfect video
I always found it hilarious when Silver goes “lessgo”
There’s no way Stingray is above Shawn
There’s also no way Piper is above Demetri
FAX
There’s also no way Silver is above Chozen
These lists are always rigged lmao and Chris should be above Kyler tbh
@@terryprice1691 idk kyler beat assface (who is similar level to Chris) with no training I feel Kyler is more naturally strong.
No way Hawk is higher than Miguel.
I'm actually amazed by Shawn Payne's fighting skills and overall strength, he doesn't know any martial arts, and yet he held his own against Robby. It's just street fighting and his raw strength.
He might join Cobra Kai he'll be out in a month.
@@youso91 oh shit Kenny did say that 🤔the Payne bros about to go crazy next season😬🔥
What street fighting
Well we can assume with that Shawn's been fighting probably ever since he's been there so he's probably been in alot of real fights so yes basically street fights robby doesn't seem like he's been in alot so that's why he's able to be on par
@@BeenBenji Shawn looks like he’s about 6’1 210lbs at least and Robby is like 5’6 150. Shawn’s brawling experience and size advantage seriously had Robby in trouble.
Chozen is the Chosen. HE IS THE STRONGEST FIGHTER WITHOUT A DOUBT
I don't understand the hate against Terry Silver. He's such a good villain, I must say. The way he orchestrates his devious, diabolical plan by messing with either his allies' or foes' head is just something else. He's so menacing and I love how he looks intimidated by Kreese at first but ended up backstabbing him at the end of season 4.
Edit: Probably they hate him as a character, but as an actor, he's so amazing!
People just love to hate him. Personally, I love watching him go he's just so entertaining. At the end of season 4 when he got kreese arrested I noticed that he wasn't drinking his wine and I thought holy shit did he just poison him, but no it didn't get that insane. But it definitely seems like something he'd do. Just insane, rich, war vet.
They just hate him because of how good of a fighter he is. Much better than kreese. Terry is the biggest threat by far
I’ll say one thing: A fight between Silver and Chozen could end lethal.
You wanna kill Silver?
Chozen trains his whole life, meanwhile silver became a hipster Boomer before he came back in martial arts life
@@kennethdesales3888 i know but silver is fucking vicious, he is a old dog who is seeking for blood and he is well trained to do some damage, i know Chozen can beat his ass easily but god damn it i really want to see more of Terry, his psycho mind is the goal to be his main force and he can maintain this rage and he loves it, he loves pain and this is his battery to gain strength.
@@mylles1112 the end of season 4 had me mind blown by Terry’s psychotic and mastermind play that he had at the end I was made but also so suprised
yeah
@@kennethdesales3888 massive assumption there. We havnt seen chozen properly fight yet. No one knows if he can’t beat terry. Terry at the moment is clearly the biggest threat. No one can say that chozen will beat him so easily. Nothing but fan boy speculation
We've seen Terry fight more than we've seen Chozen, that's why he's number one, but I strongly believe that Terry will have met his match if he faces Chozen, andI think I speak for everyone when I say that is a fight we have to see
Season 5 Midseason fight anyone? Chozen is back for season 5, and so is Terry
Chozen could kill him easy dude..
We saw Terry Silver fight once and Chozen fight once. Terry Silver vs Robby Keene doesn't mean anything. Terry Silver retired from Karate, which was obvious when he kicked a bottle as if it had been so long since he did that. Chozen practices Karate for a living. He also didn't blind side Daniel and kick him in the head.
But in a way I hope it's not just as simple as silver versus chosen, because that's what the obvious fight is. I hope the writers put in some kind of twist that we like.
@@kbanghart Plus after what Silver did to Kreese that means Kreese will not be at Cobra Kai, so what will they do with him vs Silver ?
Terry Silver? Oh Wow ❤️
you guys should make an updated list!
We agree that they are real and complex. There isn't a traditional “bad guy” or “good guy.” Every character (and each dojo) has flaws, as well as strengths. Cobra Kai, while a drama, also doesn't take itself too seriously, so the vibe is lighter and even comedic at times. This brings a wonderful balance to the show.🥰🥰🥰✌✌✌
You’re right
@@cailieisidro5758 Thanks Cailie 🥰🥰🥰
It’s a great blend of seriousness and laughing at itself without going so far as to shit on itself and the KK franchise. Johnny’s training montage to Survivor’s “Burning Heart” from Rocky 4 getting capped with the soaring eagle was perfect.
No traditional bad guy you say? What would you call Terry Silver, a humanitarian fighting for human rights?
By most definitions Silver is most definitely a "Bad Guy"
Terry's definitely evil though
12:04 i love Johnny cheering for the daughter of his enemy 😆 I enjoyed they incorporated Sam learning offense from Johnny and Miguel learning Defense from Daniel
me 2
Exactly...
who's here after chozen wins over terry silver, whilst being drunk?
Hawks the best character throughout the whole show. Im proud hes on top of the kids list.
Heyy now, Johnny was ambushed by Terry. He gave him a concussion before the fight even started.
Yes and for that Johnny held his own
I feel like if they both walked into a fight with no advantages terry would still beat johnny though it would be very close
Yeah but when Johnny recovered and pushed Silver he still lost
I think terry would have still won.
This rating makes sense considering it now. But analyzing the trilogy, I think they should put chozen, larusso, terry, miyagi (maybe mr miyagi was not included because it simply wasn’t necessary lol)
@@blueboy9676 Ight so he got kicked to the temple. And I ain't gonna explain it to you what happens to your brain when getting hit there. You could say he "Recovered" from it. But not fully, you will be having a headache, dizziness and/or nausea to feeling confused or out of it. Also Silver fought dirty, twice.
1) Silver kicked him to the temple by surprise.
2) Silver hit him to the throat.
I'll admit, Johnny did also surprise attack him, but really Silver kinda asked for it when looking away. Which is legit one of the rules you shouldn't do in a fight. Always look at the opponent.
But okay, if my argument is poor. Then yeah alright. Silver is the better fighter. Even though to the very least I can say that Johnny can hold his own.
I believe Devon will be a ultimate fighter. She learned so much in such a short time. She is hungry for victory, and prides herself in never making the same mistake twice.
I believe she was scouted around the time Piper was.
@@sana3843 but piper already had gymnastics giving her more mobility and unpredictable moves like Xander
She will be better, but i doubt she will be a major fighter because the show already has problems filling screen time with major characters.
Unless tory or sam drop out, she will only be a secondary character.
Devon's gonna fight in the next finals
I think because she is similar to johnny she will be champion
Like johnny the first time he fought in a tournament he got his ass kicked in the quarter finals against some vidal dude but the next tournament he won
Kreese said he saw it in his eyes that he wouldnt make the same mistake twicw
I like this list a ton. I think that they brought in Chozen this season because Terry Silver is going to mess him up bad
That one guy in larussos 2nd all valley is worth mentioning
I also agree with many here that Chozen should be the top guy here than Terry...
Silver may have the scare factor, but Chozen-san, to say that his skills is terrifying is an understatement... put a calm and collected man with a centuries-old martial arts style complete with techniques “designed to KILL their enemies” (as quoted from CK3), against a closet psychotic with a mostly offensive style way of the fist... it’s fair to say that the latter is just asking for a death sentence...
but anyway, that’s for the next season...
there’s no denying, however, that Thomas Ian Griffith’s portrayal of his character is not only a stroke of genius, but it’s inspired even... it’s like the guy hasn’t even stopped practicing being an actor, despite not doing any acting jobs for a very long time (he spent it as a writer for multiple well-received shows)
Exactly
No doubt. But what about Chozen and Mike Barnes (if he comes back)? He was definitely the strongest opponent of Daniel, 30+ years ago. It will be interesting to know if he kept practicing karate.
@@sana3843 our only basis with what Mike Barnes can do is from KK3, and and basing from that, I think Chozen will still decimate him... Mr. Miyagi (may he rest in peace) himself ended up throwing him to the door...
now if Barnes kept on improving post KK3, then he may be able to put up at least a decent fight... but that’s for the next season to show and tell...
P.S. another factor that may come into play is that Cobra Kai practitioners (Kreese, Silver, Barnes, etc.) don’t even have a clue of the offensive (and lethal) side of Miyagi-Do (save maybe for Kreese who ended up on the receiving end of just one of the techniques in CK3)...
Kreese himself said that Miyagi-do is “reactive”, and that it’s “easy to set traps” due to the defensive style that they already have seen from Miyagi-Do practitioners, but once they start to be on the receiving end of the secret techniques, they would be shocked, to say the least...
as Daniel-san himself once said during their sparring match with Chozen-san
“WHAT THE HELL!?”
and quoting Chozen-san himself (from CK3)
...defense takes on many forms...
Did you really put “san” at the end of his name? That’s not badass at all
@@danielamaris6367 you mean to Chozen-san? yep, because, why not? not only its a Japanese form of respect, but more importantly, the character is worthy of respect.
My choice for the top 5
5. John Kreese
4. Daniel Larusso
3. John “Johnny” Lawrence
2. Terrance “Terry” Silver
1. Chozen Toguchi
Agreed.
Pretty much the same as mine however still at this point I’m putting silver at 1 only because he has proved he’s still a beast fighter this season. We have only seen chozen spar Daniel so far. Also terry in karate kid 3 was still far better than chozen. I know time has passed but hopefully we will see them fight in season 5
Great list but I would put Terry first
@@space_4736 thats just Terry fanboyism for Johnny Daniel Kreese and Terry the Ranking of These 4 depends on opinions and preferences how much xou like them they are pretty equall, but Chozen is wayyyyy ahead of everyone one currentlx alive
1 Mr. Miyagi.....😞
But if you're mastering both Eagle Fang and Miyagi dough that makes you the goat
gotta totally agree with the poster below. Chozen tops this list. I can't see how there won't be a showdown between him and Silver.
You should have mention Robby literally single handedly defeated the entire cobra kai dojo using an incredible balance between the defensive techniques he learned in Miagi doe as well as the offensive techniques he learned at cobra kai… and has a knack of knowing how to analyze fighting styles to set traps… he is easily the best fighter there knowing this balance, because one dojo focused on offense only, the other focused on defense only, and the fact he uses both to the extreme and knows when to use each makes him almost impenetrable
Yeah exactly
Still lost to Eli though 🤷♂️
@@DeKayNYAC robby would’ve beaten eli if it wasn’t for kenny causing him inner turmoil 🤷♂️
@@BluuPlayz_01 glad I’m not the only one who clearly knows this
@@BluuPlayz_01 and hawk would of beaten robby before sun in death(which was before robby was distracted by kenny) if it wasnt for the buzzer
I refuse to believe that hawk is stronger than Robby and Miguel, this last season Miguel got nerfed, Robby got massively buffed and hawk got massively nerfed, he only beat Robby because of the script, Robby was clearly the bigger threat this season
Seriously Robby>Miguel and hawk
@@Jhhtrades Miguel prime>robby prime
@@Denver.... facts
@@Denver.... prime? There’s like 5 more seasons on its way
@@Jhhtrades No lmao, at best we end season 7
my fav shw am so excited i can't to watch season 5 .
Now We want top 10 strongest fighters after season 5
These days I'd have Daniel and Johnny in a tie because they're both learning from each other. Terry in 2nd and Chozen with the extensive training and knowledge at #1!
Tbh, I'd say Johnny slightly beats Daniel now due to the fact that Daniel will only fight in self defence which is obviously puts him at a disadvantage. Daniel is also physically smaller than Johnny as well. Obviously a very close match up in any circumstance though which would be argued both aways.
@@liamrc3087 ...they fought in season 4 and it ended in a draw. Their strength would be equal if the fight since the fight was a draw
@@BattleBondGamer Just because 2 people draw once, it doesn't mean they're equal in strength. There were more factors at play than just physical strength. Also even if you fight someone of equal strength to you in any combat sport, it is more likely someone will win than that it will be a draw.
@@BattleBondGamer Yea, it’s like saying that two sports teams are completely equal just because they had a draw once. Johnny is way more badass tho that’s a fact
Let’s be honest here Robby is better than Hawk and Miguel.
Shawn is a nattural fighter and gave Robby lots of problems without proper training. He should be at least at 13º position. There is no way he would lose to Demitri or Aisha.
Yeah but he's not level headed which is why he deserves to be in his spot or maybe a little higher.
Or Devon,sam and torry
The fact they put stingray above Shawn is unacceptable Shawn would demolish Stingray easily
@@yourboyphoenix3217 Thank you. At least somebody understands.
@@Dexter55551 not Tory or Sam
my favorite is : hawk, i love his different hair looks:) and flips
My fav fighters is john Lawrence and daniel LaRusso and Sam Robby and miguel
I would personally put Eli/Hawk slightly below Miguel and Robbie. Don't get me wrong, he is great. At the same time, he only lost to Robbie because Robbie hesitated when he saw Kenny.
He lost his focus and lost. Tournaments are always full of distractions, athletes perform under pressure, difficult circumstances, physical pain… and being mentally prepared is just as important as physical aspect. Robby also had bad advice from his coaches. “Use your anger” works on inexperienced fighters, it gives you adrenaline and motivation but it leaves you open and you loose control. He would probably win if Daniel was advising him. Upsets come in sports all the time. But I agree that Robby and Miguel were favorites to win. I was supposed at how much Eli improved. Eli was stronger on that day because he was in better shape physically and mentally and he could fight smart. I must say, his technical skills also improved a lot. They are top three fighters among boys at the moment and there is no way of knowing who will win any specific fight. It’s circumstantial. Through out last fights at the tournament I always felt like it could go either way.
Pretty sure Eli could of beat Robbie just before the buzzer rang before sudden death.
@@jasonduong-parodies2301 yeah man! thanks for noticing this as well! nobody talks about this... the idea is that both had the chance.... it was 50/50 and Eli won fairly
Miguel is hands down the best of the young fighters. The guy has beaten Robbie and Hawk multiple times. And has never actually lost when he wasn't blind sided after showing mercy. So far the show has shown 0 reason to have any of the young fighters ahead of Miguel.
@@thecensoredmuscle563 The reason is Miguel is less capable now because of his injury from the fall that’s still not fully healed. And so Hawk and Robbie got ahead because of new training and experience plus no injury is holding them back
I don’t agree that Shawn is lower than sting Ray especially when he is at the level of Robby just by brute strength
Hot Take : Shawn would destroy any of the top 10 in this list
@@BlackAF1RoundtableCEO not hawk
@@BlackAF1RoundtableCEO cap
I meant the lower Top 10 my bad
@@BlackAF1RoundtableCEO he couldnt even beat Robby and you think he can beat anybody in the top 10?
Season 5 is definetly going to have a lot of scenes in which Miguel fights random people in the real world after he gets bullied on the search of finding his dad. Just for a couple of episodes I think until Johnny finds him. And after that because Miguel would’ve had so much experience fighting in the real world and because it would have been even longer from that injury that took place he will crush Robby. Possibly even team up with Hawk as Hawk may want to try to get revenge on him in the real world since he already did in the tournament.
Bro I'm so happy about hawk, he really overcame his problems he deserved that trophy.
I think the Miguel and Chozen should have the top spots for the best younger characters and the older fighters. Demetri even said before the Eli and Miguel match that nobody has beating Miguel in a match yet. Even though he lost to Eli via DQ until he loses a match clean I still think he should be the top fighter out of the younger characters. And Chozen on top being the number one overall fighter i think is a no brainer
It’s not really a no brained yet. He’s only sparred with Daniel. Terry silver is still a beast
tbh miguel is worse than eli and robby and probably won't be close to them again. the only thing he had going for him was training longer than anyone else and with that injury that goes out the window along with his physical abilities. he's probably going to have his own path in the show besides fighting and maybe just be a major friend and motivator for eli and everyone else.
@@d6go56 Didn't you see Miguel vs hawk in season 4 episode 9? Miguel was winning until he tried the tornado kick
@@user-xr3ul2xc1l ye that's why Hawk is better than him right now. His injury makes him vanurleble. In the fight against Hawk they're evenly matched, and the Tornado kick was his ace move, and he chose to do it against Hawk. If he was better, he would leave the move for the final fight.
If Miguel didn't get well, he will never be able to defeat Hawk and Robie
@@user-xr3ul2xc1l exactly he’s too prone to injury and now that he’s gone everyone else is gonna be training still and he’s not
I’m really looking forward to seeing Kenny Payne’s story play out. That kid’s actor is pretty amazing, we saw so much emotion come from him but man what Larusso put him through was horrible.
I agree for the most part, tough I feel like Larusso was kinda pressured by his friends to bully Kenny, at least that's what I get by the facial expressions of Larusso and and the hesitance when having the opportunity to punch Kenny. But 100% agree on your first point, that kid's a great actor.
@@Alex-kn7uc Anthony absolutely was peer pressured. He's not a bully deep down
Lapusso*
Kenny's been given the Hawk treatment. I'll be expecting a redemption arc next season or the next
@@bastardjustice hopefully the writers are better than that
Hawk.
Gotta vote up on him in both dojos
On number 3 I was like why is terry or chozen not on this list but you proved me wrong
I love Hawk, but I feel like Miguel & Robby are more powerful. True Hawk might've beaten Robby in the All-Valley but had Robby followed what Terry Silver said, Robby would've won and Hawk would've been very injured and even if he did beat Miguel ,It was because Miguel decided to try to do that kick and ended up injured so he can't continue. Moreover, Miguel has been training karate longer than Hawk.
Not to mention Robby is the perfect hybrid of Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do. The guy literally started teaching Miyagi-Do and trained with John AND silver's cobra kai (and didn't get brainwashed by them). Robby is definitely the strongest young fighter since Miguel still didn't master his miyagi-do yet.
@@azizbenjaffel1491 hawk won against robby fair and square lol, robby is the 3rd best
@@flashyk2430 If Kenny didn’t distract him, then Robby would have won against Eli
@@puggus6547 and if the time didn't run out right when hawk had robby on the ground(HAWK WOULD OF WON BEFORE SUN AND DEATH) and that was WAYYYY before kenney distraction
@@flashyk2430 i mean it was all done for the plot and the sudden death was basically for the hype and see robby realise he fucked up. But still hawk is prob the closest to robbys level right now.
Would be very interesting if Shawn Payne showcases himself in the coming Seasons.
He'll receive a buff in the next patch!
Of course in every video youtubers always forget to talk about the legend (btw R.I.P Mr Miyagi🕊🪦⚰️☘️
I agree with most of the list. Especially with Silver being number 1. With the exception of Hawk being above Miguel, Miguel is absolutely the better, stronger fighter, as we see him wipe the floor with Hawk in season 2, when Miguel takes back the Medal of Honor from Hawk.
While i have got to agree that Silver is the most Dangerous overall,i would definately put Chozen Clearly Ahead,because of his training and dedication all these years. Plus Silver cheapshoted Johny,his head was ringing from a concussion of sorts,so he did not fight at full potential.
Exactly people overlook the light concussion he received because of that cheap shot.
@@ace9924 so then chosen > Johnny/ Danny > Terry?
It’s too hard to put chozen at 1 yet until we see him fight. He’s only sparred Daniel. While the first shot was indeed a cheap shot, Johnny retaliated the same way and then it became even. He was then dropped a second time. Then they came in again and was dropped a 3rd time. Terry is clearly a far superior fighter to Johnny and Daniel. They will be setting up for chozen to take on terry in season 5 I think
@@BattleBondGamer Chozen>>>>>>Everyone else for the Rest Johnny/Daniel>Terry=Kreese
I honestly think Kreese is a better fighter than Silver. Silver has the insanity angle that makes him dangerous
Chozen never stopped training, And to my knowledge the only person to land an offensive attack on Mr. Miyagi.
Yep. That alone should put Chozen at #1.
To be fair miyagi didn’t pay attention
It was a shot in the back. Meant nothing. Silver lasted the longest against miyagi out of anyone. Also we havnt seen chozen fight anyone yet. He’s only sparred Daniel so no one can say he can beat silver yet. It’s just putting bias infront of facts
@@nissy9220 Yeah and during "sparring" he was treating Daniel like a child, if I recall Chozen actually attack Daniel to piss him off and make him fight back, then Chozen kept beating his ass for like an entire day straight, stabbed a sai next to his head, mastered that secret Miyagi-Do technique
Daniel to my knowledge got Chozen down ONCE, one time. As opposed to Chozen not remotely breaking a sweat when he was beating Daniel.
Plus we don't really know how Chozen would perform as an adult against Miyagi, he continued to train for his entire life, I'd like to believe he'd give Miyagi slight trouble. I think Miyagi's thing is, he was taught by his father, a bonafide master who was probably much better then even he was, and on top of that ALL he did was train to my knowledge, eat, slept, trained, his whole existence revolved around Martial Arts (and taking care of his students.)
Anthony LaRusso kicked Mr. Miyagi when he was born. He has the potential to become the strongest character in the series.
In Season 4:
Hawk > Robby > Miguel
In Season 5
Miguel > Robby >>>>> Hawk
Now Kenny is a Top 8 or 9 (should've been 7 or 8 if not for Barnes returning).
I'm also wondering where to rank Barnes because he looked like an absolute unit even while drunk and drugged. It's like Hawk's style but on steroids.
I love Terry’s character, but Chozen is definitely above Terry, Terry hasn’t even been training all those years, the way his girlfriend asked what cobra Kai was, and that she forgot he mentioned he was a karate trainer plus his friend being surprised he had a “karate phase” suggested he either stopped training, or he trains in private. Chozen has Miyagi’s Wisdom, combined with very aggressive offensive style with Miyagi Do’s defense if needed, plus he can paralyze his opponent at will, he’s legitimately a hybrid of all the dojo’s with some extra flair to it. Unfortunately the writers are going to have to Nerf his character a bit to make it fair for his opponents..and interesting for the show.
Agreed
I think that terry kept training all these years and that he's actually in shape.
He had his rubber band in his bathroom cupboard all the time.
That's why I think he tricked all of others into thinking he's not a threat
@@tpdgaming894 i agree, the "loving husband, piano playing" silver is just a facade, and easily whipped a hook kick bottle of wine that smashes against a wall. clearly in shape, and in control of his karate.
@@tpdgaming894 rubber band? Oh for his hair LOL
Terry is clearly the strongest as of right now chozen was relative to Daniel
Miguel has never lost a fight and has beaten both Hawk and Robbie multiple times. Hawk wasn't even a match against Miguel before his back cramped. Until anyone actually beats Miguel, you can't have any of the teen fighters ahead of him.
He beat Robbie in the last all valley cause he was targeting Robby’s injury. And it’s not really fair to say that he’s still the best because regardless of his record, right now he would lose due to his back injury. Both Robby and Hawk are better than him at this point in time.
@@sirsnipeyy dues to his injury, yes, but if he was recovered he would beat haw, not sure about robby tho.
@@haki6177 No I completely agree. But that fact is that we can’t erase the past and his injury is still currently effecting him. If Miguel was never hurt he would’ve beat hawk for sure
@@sirsnipeyy he also beat Robby in the school but showed mercy
Fabian Marshall that was before season 4, were robby got much better.
this video is nearly a year old so with the new season out, its been said by writers that Chozen is the actual strongest fighting in the Karate Kid universe, which, if you've seen the last season, he proves it.
Silver evolution was a thing. Really agree
Hawk vs Robby in season 4 was the best martial arts fight I've seen for ages! It was such a shock that Hawk won as well, I was so glad. Then when Chozen turned up again in the finale to help Daniel with season 5 I was so hyped!
What? Go watch Poirier vs Gaethje in UFC if you want to watch the real best MMA fight. You must be 8
@@adhitsuwandi3740 talking about movie and TV fights boy.
In my opinion, Miguel and Eli are on equal terms as of Season 4. Miguel could have possibly finished his last match with Eli if he hadn't pulled a muscle during their fight, but Eli was perfectly capable of keeping up with Miguel. Eli only has a slight advantage over Miguel because of Miguel's injury and because of his constant training while Miguel was paralyzed. That's just an opinion though.
Yeah I would say that’s about right, also let’s not forget he beat Robbie who is easily the best cobra Kai teenage member (with miyagi do experience)
Eli should have lost to Robby and would have had Robby not hesitated due to an identity crisis. The three, RObby, Miguel and Eli are all fairly evenly matched
@@jaredfrancis5062 But Eli would have ended the match before that even happened if the 3 minute timer didn't save him. He had him by the shirt pinned, all he needed to do was finished it but it was unlucky timing.
@@hm6638 ye
Miguel Diaz Forever
The honk that chozen used was in the final battle in kk2 daniel used it on chozen and won the fight its called the drum technique
I think Johnny is stronger than Daniel and a good example of this was when Johnny found a way to counter Daniel after he used the pressure point technique.
I agree
Yeah I agree. Johnny always was and always will be better than Daniel
Johnny is very adaptive
And Johnny would have beaten Kreese to a pulp without any pressure points if Robby had not interfered.
They are pretty interchangable to me, I see them both as very close, if not equal, and the show does a decent job of portraying that. Him countering the pressure point move was great though.
I like seeing bad boy Kenny, it’d be bad ass if he used his anger to fuel him during fights but of course have sec control over it
Fly high mr Miyagi
Chosen destroyed daniel, while Terry had to blind Johnny to beat him. Chozen is way stronger
Destroyed Daniel? That’s a massive exaggeration. They didn’t fight they sparred. Yes he’s better than Daniel but it doesn’t mean chozen is ‘way’ better than terry. We won’t know until they fight.
@@nissy9220 watch the scene again
@@2muchsparky16 you need to watch it again
@@nissy9220 nah chozen def destroyed daniel. chozen no. 1 for sure but im sure terry wud give him a fierce fight. hopefully they do fight. id also argue johnny is no. 3 above daniel but it would be nice if they had a ranking they shared
@@nissy9220 cap
In season 4 i think it is clear that Johnny and Daniel are in the same tier now that we have sympathy for both and Johnny stopped being Cobra Kai and created his own style.
I also feel like robby is stronger than hawk but only held back because of Kenny
Nah if the time didn’t run out hawk would’ve won even before that hawk was about to strike when the time ran out plus we know the ref was cheating
Yeah but daniel could easily beat johnny with the techniques chosen showed him
@@shaggy2203 lol bs he tried it in sparring match and he still draw
@@anantambisht4895 yeah cause he only did 1 arm, he could've done like with kreese and he'd win
@@shaggy2203 that's an illegal move and technique ..if johnny would have used elbows and good old ground and pummel daniel would be in hospital
Me favorie hawk/eli his strong and Whit the mohawk a 30/30 and hes friendly But not all ime but thats the point of the movie but that movie that bully a 5050 but hes me favorite❤❤🎉
Bro put Eli in front of Miguel and robby 💀
Shawn should have been way higher. He took on Robby who is strong enough to fight the entire cobra Kai dojo. And Chozen should have been number 1. He was trained by sato Who is almost equal to Mr. Miyagi. Also keep in mind that an old Mr. Miyagi beat a prime terry silver like nothing.
Well back in that season Robby didn’t know as much as he knows now
@@rolinn777 if Shawn learns as much karate as Robby knows rn then Shawn would win imo
I think the writers were scared of showing Miyagi getting punched back in the day. Imo it’s bs that absolute legends skillwise always looked like flies next to him. I think he has a lottt of plot armor
If Shawn joins Cobra Kai, he’s gonna be a menace. I think he would be a very good enemy to Eli. Also, I don’t want Eli’s main story to end now that he’s a champion, we still to see more, I mean he is currently the most well-rounded fighter, and a perfect balance between Daniel, Johnny and Kreese.
@@danielamaris6367 No, Miyagi was just that good, and he did get hit once in Karate Kid II by Chozen. Chozen smacked him in the back with a staff.
Robby and Miguel are definitely the best young student fighters on the show, even with Eli winning Robby said specifically in the beginning he didn’t care about silverware and I think Kenny and LaRusso had a big influence on him not winning.
Robbie n miguel are the toughest best
100 percent agree
Yeh definitely agree, it’s good though for the writers to let another character shine a little.
@@nissy9220 I agree 100%
1. Chozen
2. Daniel
3. Terry
4. Jonny
5. Kreese
6. Miguel
7. Robby
8. Tory
9. Hawk
10. Sam
Na I think Terry is stronger than Daniel
@@willycheez7218 Who won at the end tho?
@@AB-oq2mt Oh nah not you liking your own comment. He won after Terry had just near fought to the death with Chozen
@@willycheez7218 still lost
Why is tory over hawk?
Cool
In Johnny's defence in the silver fight, silver kicked him his ear hard enough to knock him down and slide to the wall. Not only was he disoriented from a strong head kick but his balance was off, his ears were ringing, it's hard enough to fight when people open palm ears.
Yeah that’s a fair point for sure. But in an even 1 on 1 match I think Terry would still be the favorite.
@@soakedbearrd yeah I reckon so but I don't think it would have been so 1 sided either
The match up I would love to see is Silver vs Kreese. I don't think it's as easy to predict as many think as many ate using Johnny as the way to measure who is the better fighter. Silver beat Johnny but Kreese didn't. I feel like Kreese held back on Johnny as he still looms at Johnny as a son, ir at the very least, his best student and doesn't wish harm to come to him.
I think that fight would go in a similar way to Daniel vs Johnny in a double KO tbh as sure Silver has reach and seemingly youth (albeit only a few years difference character wise) but Kreese isn't scared to die it seems. Look at Vietnam from season 3 where he volunteers himself to take Silvers place. This might help give him an edge to tie their fight, even mores now as he will want revenge against Silver
@@perfectomega1 silver has always been better than kreese. That’s clearly shown in karate kid 3.
So what. It's a fight.
I mean Silver used the Quicksilver method to win, and it did work
i hope we see more of Shawn Payne in season 5, he’d be one brutal ass fighter that’s for sure.
Same dude
Also I refuse to believe they put Stingray over Shawn in this list lol
@@Bosston62 Shawn stronger than Stingray, Devon, Kyler, Aisha, Dimitri, Piper, Xander, Tory, Samantha. What the fuck is this list. Competely wrong. Shawn is top 9
@@ScenesEdits 👍👍👍👍👍
This is my honest opinion, I think Shawn would think that doing karate is stupid and quit after a while thinking he won’t need it
I’d say that it would take two or more fighters of Dimitri’s skill level to successfully take on Shawn.
Could you imagine Kyler vs Shawn
Now if Hawk could train with Chosen that would be incredible. I can see Kyler going higher if Terry Silver trained him.