Yoo thanks for the shoutout man, my video was more like pointing out general mistakes compared to your video which gets into the details of the mistakes and the reasoning behind it. Anyways great video!
I dont really get how you're meant to get farm as Kat (more so in the early game). Q is up every 2 decades and AAs typically mean you just lose health cause the enemy is ranged.
You really don’t farm to much early game. You look for engages with your q dagger (typically short trades) and also look for roams around the map. Help your jg with scuttle, and most matchups you’ll need to roam to snowball and win the game for your team so make sure to shove the wave whenever you do. But yeah Kat has one of the worst laning faces at mid, that’s why most games are games you shove wave to be constantly trying to roam for kills.
Also don’t be afraid to give up minions whenever you’re playing against a ranged champ. Not worth it to lose some or most your health for a few minions.
well this is like an intermediate guide. you need to have some base knowledge about laning to understand it. I did catch up some guides maybe 3 months ago and my gameplay with kat improved massively since then. im playing this game for 7 years now and there is still much to learn about it. just crazy xD
If I were you I would start with a more easy lane like jungle or support instead of mid and toplane which requires lane management that takes years to master or even understand.
@@arasbagdat4476 jungle? I mean that the lane has like 3 different paths or more for differnet kinds of enemy junglers. Not to mention the best time to gank or take scuttle
@@eric_asa_c First of all, pathing in jungle is not nearly as hard to learn as wave management. It's pretty easy to understand when to and when not to Gank your enemies and it is easily one of the easier roles if not the easiest because of how underwhelming it is to do your so to say "tasks" to win the game. Even if you are significantly behind you can just camp the carry of the team and let him do the rest.
The biggest Kat tip to help you start to learn her, is knowing when you’re able to play aggressive and when to play back a bit. Kat is best when the enemies make a mistake and she can kill them for it. That doesn’t mean you can play aggressive but maybe poke a bit and gank a couple times before going all in, especially if you’re new.
I've been playing this game for 10 days, got to platinum league and I wanna say, that this mistakes sometimes are really helpful at my low elo But now I'm looking forward to improve my skills and go to a higher rank! Thanks!
In my opinion, that is a really good video -> think and you will be better. I needed someone to point out things, that I can start working on. Like the direction of improvement
Here is what we should do: - Avoid trade, poke at early levels. Farm what ever you can with Q - Patient and wait for opportunities: your jungle in, enemy in bad position or waste their important skills.... Kat doesnt consume mana doesnt mean you get to spam skills. - If you cant win mid lane, that's okay, Kat will do well in combat. Try to fash push b4 canon wave and go roaming, try to pick up kills, assistances. -> okay i get here i realize I cant make a short summary about this so I'll just give up. 🤣🤣
@@seagulfs4123 only moba games anyone cares about are dota and league, and they are both hard. I’ll never play dota because i hate the turn rate. There is a lot of gameplay added due to removing that. I cant say hardest moba because i dont know other mobas. I just know league is a hard game. Let me know some mobas you think are harder for whatever reason.
A lot of these things are just basic gameplay problems that people commit on every champion tbh. The mindless AD kat build is a common problem though...and it's getting nerfed next patch, which is going to make it even worse than it already is in long games.
will you be doing a video discussing the new item changes for kata? divine, steraks, deathsdance, maw (and hexdrinker), bork? There appears to be some really good stuff in there
i was thinking about it, but im not sure if I want to make a video just shitting on ad items LOL sunderer and bork are good but they already were. People build them too often. dd suck maw suck hexdrinker is fine though but is kinda awkward in the build I think ap is just so good
@@Cocho_Kat quick question: why do you prefer to go sunderer -> bork and for example not the other way around which is what i've seen a lot of other people doing.
i hit diamond with 60hz / 60fps before upgrading my monitor years ago 60hz / 60fps is good enough if you had like 30 or something, then I think it would be an issue. 60 is good enough
Overall, simplifying it, I think its correctly opting between conq/resolve with nash > rift and elec/sorc with nash > rocket/raba But I wouldnt recommend that, I’d recommend this: ruclips.net/video/VfZnT3URzg4/видео.html
I feel like most the mistakes were very simple - just don't make this mistake. Like the solution to trading into a bad matchup or into a big wave is just avoid it. Avoidance and acknowledging that some actions are just bad goes a long way. The overarching concept i think is that the less mistakes you make, the more opportunities open up for good plays and positive impact,. E.g if you're forced out of lane due to bad trades u miss out on tempo for roams or kills when a it becomes available etc
this would be so enjoyable if i wouldnt cringe at every word you say. sry, but maybe get someone to read the script for you. im sure there are plenty of ppl who feel the same. no hate intended. just honesty.
Yoo thanks for the shoutout man, my video was more like pointing out general mistakes compared to your video which gets into the details of the mistakes and the reasoning behind it. Anyways great video!
Nice, now I've achieved everything in life. Being a bad example in a guide for my favourite champion 😎
I guess you could be happy to get your mistake by coaching. We have to figure it out ourself (:
You've led others to a treasure you can't possess
Same LoL
I dont really get how you're meant to get farm as Kat (more so in the early game). Q is up every 2 decades and AAs typically mean you just lose health cause the enemy is ranged.
You really don’t farm to much early game. You look for engages with your q dagger (typically short trades) and also look for roams around the map. Help your jg with scuttle, and most matchups you’ll need to roam to snowball and win the game for your team so make sure to shove the wave whenever you do. But yeah Kat has one of the worst laning faces at mid, that’s why most games are games you shove wave to be constantly trying to roam for kills.
Also don’t be afraid to give up minions whenever you’re playing against a ranged champ. Not worth it to lose some or most your health for a few minions.
bro this game is so hard for starters i dont understand half of the terms used lol
dont rush it its a game where u need alot of time to learn
well this is like an intermediate guide. you need to have some base knowledge about laning to understand it. I did catch up some guides maybe 3 months ago and my gameplay with kat improved massively since then. im playing this game for 7 years now and there is still much to learn about it. just crazy xD
If I were you I would start with a more easy lane like jungle or support instead of mid and toplane which requires lane management that takes years to master or even understand.
@@arasbagdat4476 jungle? I mean that the lane has like 3 different paths or more for differnet kinds of enemy junglers. Not to mention the best time to gank or take scuttle
@@eric_asa_c First of all, pathing in jungle is not nearly as hard to learn as wave management. It's pretty easy to understand when to and when not to Gank your enemies and it is easily one of the easier roles if not the easiest because of how underwhelming it is to do your so to say "tasks" to win the game. Even if you are significantly behind you can just camp the carry of the team and let him do the rest.
The biggest Kat tip to help you start to learn her, is knowing when you’re able to play aggressive and when to play back a bit. Kat is best when the enemies make a mistake and she can kill them for it. That doesn’t mean you can play aggressive but maybe poke a bit and gank a couple times before going all in, especially if you’re new.
The fact that in a MASTER game on eune people are flaming me for having low cs against an akshan is just terrifying
I've been playing this game for 10 days, got to platinum league and I wanna say, that this mistakes sometimes are really helpful at my low elo
But now I'm looking forward to improve my skills and go to a higher rank! Thanks!
So about 8:24 - in low elo if i dont sit there and just take my farm/push the wave my team will die to 4v5. happens all the time
so many things to consider at once, this is freaking me out
In my opinion, that is a really good video -> think and you will be better.
I needed someone to point out things, that I can start working on. Like the direction of improvement
Thanks... won't randomly Q my wave again!
Here is what we should do:
- Avoid trade, poke at early levels. Farm what ever you can with Q
- Patient and wait for opportunities: your jungle in, enemy in bad position or waste their important skills.... Kat doesnt consume mana doesnt mean you get to spam skills.
- If you cant win mid lane, that's okay, Kat will do well in combat. Try to fash push b4 canon wave and go roaming, try to pick up kills, assistances.
-> okay i get here i realize I cant make a short summary about this so I'll just give up. 🤣🤣
Thats really helpful, thanks
When is the new build guide coming Cocho?
Every time I watch your videos I'm reminded of how bad I am at this game
Its a hard game
@@seagulfs4123 only moba games anyone cares about are dota and league, and they are both hard.
I’ll never play dota because i hate the turn rate. There is a lot of gameplay added due to removing that.
I cant say hardest moba because i dont know other mobas. I just know league is a hard game.
Let me know some mobas you think are harder for whatever reason.
A lot of these things are just basic gameplay problems that people commit on every champion tbh. The mindless AD kat build is a common problem though...and it's getting nerfed next patch, which is going to make it even worse than it already is in long games.
will you be doing a video discussing the new item changes for kata? divine, steraks, deathsdance, maw (and hexdrinker), bork? There appears to be some really good stuff in there
i was thinking about it, but im not sure if I want to make a video just shitting on ad items LOL
sunderer and bork are good but they already were. People build them too often.
dd suck
maw suck
hexdrinker is fine though but is kinda awkward in the build I think
ap is just so good
@@Cocho_Kat quick question: why do you prefer to go sunderer -> bork and for example not the other way around which is what i've seen a lot of other people doing.
Your name is Thindy?
you call out bad purchases without giving us the "right" purchases in the situation excluding the argument to go AP instead od AD in the vayne game
Will you post more videos?
Friday I'm uploading a coaching session
is 144hz better to play kat? I have macbook, play with 80fps 60hz, am I worst because of this?
i hit diamond with 60hz / 60fps before upgrading my monitor years ago
60hz / 60fps is good enough
if you had like 30 or something, then I think it would be an issue. 60 is good enough
Hi Cocho- At 4:37 you mentioned “ad starting item”
Do you mean long sword only? Or BORK for example?
Longsword or doran’s blade
Hey Bro, what do you think about the bork buff? Appreciate your videos
What dou you think is the best build rn?
Overall, simplifying it, I think its correctly opting between conq/resolve with nash > rift and elec/sorc with nash > rocket/raba
But I wouldnt recommend that, I’d recommend this: ruclips.net/video/VfZnT3URzg4/видео.html
@@Cocho_Kat Thanks! Do you have a discord my dude?
@@ddermsquad9090
My Kat Discord: discord.gg/wsdEE3E347
My discord: Cocho#5844
muy informativo gracias por todos los videos :D
Why i feel like i can't kill anything now
do you have a discord server?
Yes, check description
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hello ^^ i have a question, does guinsoo and titanic hydra still work with katarina's ultimate?
Yes. Titanic is a pretty good ad item, but guinsoo is often outclassed by stuff like bork, wits end, titanic.
@@Cocho_Kat okay thank you for reaction, late but you answered my question :D
@@Cocho_Kat ooh and what about kraken does it still works with katarina ult?
@@kanaryikowy6299 yeah but its reduced dmg so its not very good. Just go sunderer
I feel like you pointed out a lot of mistakes but not how to fix them
let me know a specific time in the video, and I'll let you know some things the person could have done
I feel like most the mistakes were very simple - just don't make this mistake. Like the solution to trading into a bad matchup or into a big wave is just avoid it. Avoidance and acknowledging that some actions are just bad goes a long way.
The overarching concept i think is that the less mistakes you make, the more opportunities open up for good plays and positive impact,. E.g if you're forced out of lane due to bad trades u miss out on tempo for roams or kills when a it becomes available etc
Many of those mistakes are not a Katarina related at all..
It's just mistakes because of lack of game knowledge that any role does...
Let me know a kat only mistake, ty!
nice video
MOM I’m on tv!
How I hate that it doesn't have subtitles in Spanish: V
"Playing like a B" and "Poke dumb farming" ok i get it but u shud show us how to do it right way.
this would be so enjoyable if i wouldnt cringe at every word you say. sry, but maybe get someone to read the script for you. im sure there are plenty of ppl who feel the same. no hate intended. just honesty.
kat bad champ
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