Bought the Tutoro 2 weeks ago. I saw your video, and did a lot of comparison. Unfortunatley the shipment was not complete, but after sending a mail, Tutoro replied, and directly sent the missing piece. very good service. Thanks to AndyManCam video's i knew how to install this (thanks Andy - love your videos!). I will keep you posted once I have tested it. I loved the part of the installation that in the end you can put the magnet on the Tutoro device. If oil goes into the tube, you are rewarded for the labour you have put into it. please continue andy with your great video's. looking forward to new video's as well. still thinking if I should by the quickshifter ;-)
Glad to hear I could help mate! I really enjoyed the quickshifter on the FZ1. I'm also considering getting one for the CB1KR, but maybe after the next service!
Tutoro's oiler is simplicity in itself. Nick manufactures these 2 miles down the road from me and I've had my auto oiler for 5 years now! Had it mounted on my CBR500R before I ported it over onto my Fazer Thou. I was involved in a development programme with him a while back that allowed me to fit an oiler onto my 07 R1 but found that most people would prefer the auto oiling option with a moderate capacity instead having to manually prime the delivery system at the start of each ride. One thing Nick advised me to do was to either cover the unit when you're cleaning the bike with detergent or snow foam. I notice you've got the stone chip shield on it, but the chemicals will attack the polymeric components causing them to swell. I needed to have my lid machined back to be in the right tolerance otherwise it would have cracked the entire reservoir. There's a Tutoro user group on facebook which show some of the users routing solutions; enduro bikes, single sided swingarms, braced swingarms etc.
@@AndyManCam I've been using Tutoro since 2007, back when the oiler was simply a reservoir with a simple screw valve. It's somewhat serendipitous that i moved to the forest of dean only to be down the road.
Told a friend about this item, just about to send to your video. Also introduce him to the world of Andy Man Cam! Brilliant video. Sorry I forgot to put a comment when I watched this video.
Good review Andy - I just signed off trading my 2004 GS on a F900XR (chain drive), so missed out on all that mucking around for 16 years! Previously I had a Scottoiler on a VFR800 which I was very happy with but got my mechanic to do the vacuum connection for me. This looks like a much better solution - I'll be ordering one now so hopefully it will arrive in Oz in time for the bike delivery in 3-4 weeks.
@@samiam5326 so far all good, a fair bit of faffing around to find a mounting point for the reservoir that was vertical and gave access to refill, ended up using p-clips on the sub-frame. The scottoiler was easier to mount as it didn’t have to be vertical, but you do have to cut into a vacuum line.
Good stuff as always Andy. Echoing a couple of others though, I'd prefer the background music to stay at the consistent background level, rather than jumping up every time you take a breath. Other than that great as per the norm
Hello Andy, many thanks for introducing this kind of technique. I am really excited to learn that you do not threw extra wires or tubes underneath your seat and across the chassis. And am glad to learn that Tutoro has got some dealers on the continent in particular after January 1st this year... That stuff is definitely worth a try. Don't miss that offer about a cup of coffee especially during these weather condition nowadays. Cheers mate.
I suppose it probably could. Depends on how much space and access you would have there. But the overall goal is to get the oil on to the rollers of the chain.
It was always the same with the Scottoiler too. Have to remember to adjust if the weather changes drastically too! Mostly seems good so far with the recommended half a turn. Chain is shiny but not soaking and I’m getting (extrapolated) 6-7000km from a fill up. 👍🏻 Impressed so far.
Hi Andy, great vid I’m thinking about getting one of these for my KTM Superduke 990, they look great with not having to worry about electrical issues wiring it up, 👌
Hi Andy, oiler looks good. I'm actually really curious as to which rear stand you're using, been trying to decide what stand I've been wanting to get for my CB and so far the superbike stand is at the top of my list.
Great video! I was just wondering if you could instal the reservoir tank straight above the chain, so it can drop the oil straight on the top of a chain instead of using hose wire to provide it all the way down to the sprocket?
You could, but the delivery point would need to be very close to the chain to avoid oil just being blown away before it even reaches where it needs to be. This is then made difficult because the swingarm will be constantly moving up and down and also the chain itself will be jumping up and down. So you would have to leave too much gap to avoid smashing the reservoir and as such most of the oil would end up everywhere else except where it needs to go. Delivering it to the sprocket means the oil is never ‚in the air‘. It goes straight into the sprocket and then finds it way directly on to the chain. 👍🏻
The big issue with the original scottooler was varying flow rates due to temperature. This is solved with the electronic version. It pumps a fixed amount regardless of temp and you can adjust that up or down. It's only two wires on to the battery.
TBH Scotty, i never had that much of a problem. I just knew that as winter approached, I’d dial a couple of extra clicks in and the opposite as summer rolled back around again. Certainly not enough of a problem to spend twice the money. Very cool that the option is there though, for those that can’t be bothered with that faff!
Absolutely. Like so many motorcycling products where the cheap on will work, but for the extra mile you have to stump up way more cash! If it works for you, then it’s worth it. If it works without, then that’s a money-saving win in the other direction!
Agreed. When people have asked me whether an oiler is worth it I always say it depends on the mileage they do. They're a bit of a faff to install and theres the cost to justify. Just depends on the usage 👍
I’d possibly go as far as to say that they’re worth it, whatever mileage you do. That is, as long as you’ll one day wear a set of chain and sprockets out. (I once met a guy on a Fazer rideout in 2015 who had a 1999 FZS600, that he bought new, with 12,000 miles on it!) If so the just by doubling the life of the chain, you save the cost of the oiler in replacement parts!
Looks nice and simple to install Andy now you have done some miles on her .1 how’s it performing in use & 2 how dirty is the rear wheel getting as I’m thinking of getting my wheels done in gold and obviously want minimal smog on them .? Keep the videos coming luvin your work .
Fantastic! Have always been put off oilers for the very reasons you highlighted in the vid. Seriously considering one of these, how has it held up so far? Or is that to be revealed in an update vid 🤓
I had a bit of teething trouble at the beginning because it wasn’t working. Turned out I’d just over filled it, so user error! Since then covered 5000km and the chain still looks good. Reservoir seems to be good for about 6-7000km on a top up at my current Settings too. All in all, positive experience so far!
Andy, the oil will make a messy(spilled)on swing arm, rear section or not while riding. Looking forward to see your advice. I like to buy one of them too.
Sure, it'll make a bit of a mess. But cleaning off the swingarm etc... is a lot less work than cleaning the chain once a week! TBH it's really not that much mess either.
Hi, how often do you clean the chain ? does the constant/consistent lubing of the chain by the unit keep the chain cleaner for longer or do you have to use the kettenmax just as often as if you were to use traditional lubrication methods ? How much extended chain/sprocket life do you expect to get by using the tutoro ?
I definitely clean the chain way less often. Maybe once a month at most. I’ve yet to see how long I’ll get but I’m on 15,000km so far and i think the chain has maybe another 5-10,000 left. Not bad considering that (IMHO) the Honda OE chain is pretty rubbish!
hi Andy. Maybe there are comments about this but please reply to me again. Is there chance to lubricate the inside rings, or both in the same time (inside and outside), or it only comes with one side lubricating mechanism? Thank you in advance.
For a while they used to have a twin nozzle, but now discontinued. I’ve always found that the inside of the sprocket is never completely dry as a bit of oil is always forced around there. 👍🏻
Hi Andy. Sticky pads = do it again later with something more substantial in my experience! By the time you've washed it a few times and it has flung some oil around, I reckon you'll be doing those again! Unit looks OK, but small in comparison to a Scottoiler. It'll be interesting to see how it gets on! I've just invested in a new Z900 to be my second bike, so may go with this solution if it pans out. Good vid! Liked the cable tie technique!👍
Cheers Christopher. Hopefully they’ll do ok. The hoses on the Scottoiler were held on with sticky pads and were still holding on to the yamaha as i sold it! Also managed a 4000km round trip and the reservoir was still 1/3 full. Never managed that with the scottoiler, although i had the Louis special edition which is a bit smaller. So far I’m pretty happy with it. Few teething problems until i realized that I’d overfilled it. Since then, all good.
Great video & now subscribed. Love the idea of not having to cut into the bikes hoses, which Tutora did you use?on the website they have a few options….👍🏼
Andy which oil did it come with (did you get to choose?)? Their site says not to use Plus25 in the UK, but it seems to me that is exactly the right choice for our temperature range here (and probably the same for you).
I have the normal one and it seemed to be just right in the up to 30 degrees that we had last month. It’s my understanding that in temperatures below 25 degrees the plus 25 will be too thick to get good flow when it gets colder. Which lets be honest, is the vast majority of the year on the UK!
Wow, that looked easy, easier than ye olde Scott Oiler (which I have used on every bike for 30 years) ;-) Oiler's work: As an aside, my v-strom1000 chain went 25K miles with oiler and it still wasn't worn out, I changed the chain because I needed something todo during lockdown LOL.
Haha! Brilliant! Totally agree though. After 15,000km the chain on the Versys still looked new when i sold it and the same for the Yamaha. And all that with vastly reduced cleaning and adjusting! They definitely work.
Absolutely correct. But the rollers and sides of the plates rubbing against the sprockets benefits from the extra oil. Without it the sprockets wear out quicker and also the chain heats up more and results in faster degradation of the rubber seals and the grease they hold in. Also an oiled chain is far quieter than a dry one.
Well done Andy, really enjoy your maintenance tutorials (and your country rides as well haha). I am thinking of doing the same on the RE650. So was a very interesting headsup - if only I can find that Lube unit in NZ! I could always order online... :)
Really good device that. I’d never heard of them before. I wouldn’t use a Scot oiler as don’t want to mess about with wires and vacuum things. This looks ideal. 👍
After your Vosges trip, do you have a better view of your Tutoro "consumption" per (1000) km ? I ask this because since this installation video of yours, I installed a Tutoro on my bike, and I wonder if I could ride e.g. the RDGA, next year, with only one extra container oil fill...
After a few good long trips, I can tell you that (on my settings of half a turn open) in warm weather the filled reservoir lasted for about 5000km, so about 3000 miles. Not bad at all and enough for most 'ordinary' tours!
Just bought to install but your reservoir fixing position looks different to mine as I don't have engine bars fitted. Would the bracket fit in same position if I remove bolt cover on std bike
I think you might need some kind of spacer, as the bolt is recessed into the frame (as I recall). But that of course means that it is possible, just with perhaps a tiny little it of extra faff!
I got around it by positioning on off side and cutting a mounting bracket. I will post photo when done, pipe routing will be same but from opposite side
But this one is a not scottoiler with NO electric! The Feed nozzle is very well fixed and rearward movement is no problem at all. All depends on the quality of the install, I suppose!
I like the look of this system, hope it’s available in the UK. All self contained, no plumbing into the bike. I’ll be interested in how you get on with it.
There is a risk one will get fed up with the splatter and it sounds like this could be bothersome if you like to keep bikes looking as good as possible, despite all weather riding ... I considered this oiler for my bike but having seen the mess this oiler created on a colleagues bike it's on hold for now. His tail/number plate area and rear wheel gets caked in fling and he just can't dial it in to get a good trade-off setting. Some of the fling must end up on his brake disc as both sides of his wheel get caked up 🤔. Plus, if you want the extra bits 'n bobs fitting kit the price rises steeply. At the moment I'll stick with Wurth dry chain lube spray every 400 or so miles = practically zero fling. I clean chain with parrafin every 600 to 800 miles (I take a small pot on tour with me). When I clean my chain with paraffin it still looks new and after two years of ownership and 14k miles chain tension has never been required to tighten it. Oilers are certainly convenient, particularly on tour, but I have OCD with, ahem, rear-end cleanliness! I hope it doesn't become an issue for you. Thanks for the review, I like how you used the cable tie locking block as an anchor, looks a bit tidier. 👍 Be good if you could provide an update in a few months to see what it's like long term in different temps and climates, oil consumption and range from the reservoir, etc as I'm still considering getting one. Ta.
I totally understand that Critch. I guess it comes down to which end of the cleaning spectrum you’re happiest to spend your time. I prefer to run a rag around the back end (oo-er) once a week than get involved with the chain. Of course now that i have a single sided swingarm and no center stand, cleaning and lubing on tour is exponentially more difficult! TBH I’ve always found that no matter what i do, the bike looks like a swamp tried to eat it when i get back from any tour, so a deep clean is always in order! But being able to forget about the chaintenance (maybe i should copyright that one!) is a huge bonus for me when all i want to do is park the bike and get on with the evening entertainment!
Nice video. I had looked at Tutoro already, immediately after you presented your new bike. I'm interested in the follow up... No 5% discount link this time ?
Sleek looking piece of kit Andy. Nice fit. Keen to see how well it works. Hey, one other thing. Just got back from a 1500km solo road trip that took in several epic motorcycle roads, the Putty Rd, Thunderbolts Way & the Oxley Hwy which it in itself has over 300 bends. No scares, a great trip..If ever in Oz you must consider some of these.👍🏍🇦🇺
Cheers Russell. Working great so far. I’m loving the larger reservoir than the special edition Scottoiler that i had. I can go for 5-7k km between refills now, so no need to take extra oil for most trips. Well done on the scarefree carefree trip mate! If only they could all always be that way! Oz & Nz would be a truly epic tour. On the bucket list for sure.
Agreed. Though no blank vac ports here as everything is interconnected. Apparently the CB throttle bodies are somehow self balancing? Not gotten truly to the bottom of that yet, but no need to worry as this oiler was the simplest install!
It‘s just buzz mate. I’m running this ship on a shoestring and using what I’ve got! If I was recording in a proper studio, with pro gear, then it would bother me. As it is, I’m just happy when it all worked according to plan!
@@AndyManCam Cheers. I was just wondering if it was a setting of sorts or some minor glitch. No other reason to post this on here :). Keep at it. You've been doing great!
If you have the oiler lubing anywhere other than at either of the sprockets, then there is far too much movement of the swingarm. This movement prevents you from putting the nozzle close enough and therefore you'd lose most of the oil in the wind. You could mount the nozzle on to the swingarm, but there is still also a lot of movement through chain slap. One jump from the chain and the whole nozzle assembly could be ripped from it's mounts and destroyed forever!
I suppose if you don't have a centre stand these may be beneficial. Gear oil is the best for chains so will this accept gear oil or must it be their own oil?
I was looking at the manual online the other week, it's well written and long AF. Full of warnings about how washing the bike or using the wrong lube might bugger it. It says gearbox oil will swell the cap and you'll crack the tube. They used to make one with a on/off tap for like £15
@@dazednconfused31337 Yes, I had one of those £15 jobs. For me, a waste of £15. Back in the day I've also tried the old Scotoiler, which are still overly expensive. I've come to the conclusion that regular manually oiling of the chain while on the centre stand and running the engine in 1st gear is my preferred option.
MrC InTheUK for god sake, don’t have the bike running in gear while doing chain maintenance. That’s one fast was to lose fingers. Only takes a split second, you’re finger gets between the chain and sprocket and say bye bye to your digit.
That just seems like it would make one hell of a mess… if all it takes is vibration to make oil come out. 🤔….. I’m rly interested in this because it would be a game changer if it works as advertised.
@@AndyManCam excellent, I`m glad you made the video, I was considering one too, now I think I will give it a go. Thanks Andy and keep up the great work
like you i hate the fact the scottoiler cuts into the vacuum hose and always gave it a wide berth. This looks the dogs Andy and great tutorial as always.. Cheers Mate may need to invest in this. 👌
Cheers mate. The LAST thing I was going to be doing with a new bike was hacking in to the vacuum system. Have you looked at the pipewrok on the CB? it's an absolutle nightmare! NO idea which one to use. SO this is the ideal solution! Luckily, it's also working really well!
Haven't mate.. glad it's working well.. I'm down south for a couple of days and just listened to your podcast with TP.. Helped me through my first 150 miles 😄👍
14 dislikes wtf is wrong with some people? once again first class tutorial Andy, How have you got on with it ? Is it worth me buying one for my cb 1000r now you have run it for a few months?
It comes with the territory Tony! It's been mostly good. Seemed to stop working for a little while, but turns out I had it mounted too loosely! Still testing though. Sadly weather doesn't want to play along so much at the moment!
Great idea but… I think I’d rather just oil my chain occasionally than have that device on my bike. Great video though! Music could be a little more rock to be aligned with more motorcycle vibe. Just my opinion.
Each to their own mate. Personally i HATE chain maintenance, so this device adds valuable hours back on to my life! I also prefer to not always rely on the fact that people think bikes mean rock. There’s a whole menu out there and stereotypes were made to be broken!
I'm interested in this. How much more life would you guesstimate with these vs lubing every 200 miles and cleaning every 800-1000 miles? How do you mean the bike gets dirtier with these vs spray lube?
Before oilers, i would get around 10,000km before the chain was loose and flappy. On my last bike, after 20,000km (and the chain was already fitted when i bought the bike) the chain and sprockets still looked like they had plenty of life. I was never the most dedicated cleaner, but still. Over double the life is nothing to be sniffed at. The oil from the oiler is thinner than the spray wax. So it’s thrown off by the oiler and therefore ends up on the rear wheel and the rear of the bike. Though when the settings are right, this is nothing more than a wipe with a cloth once a week.
Any word on pros/cons of this one? I've already pulled the trigger and I mounted my scottoiler to my FZ1 today. But this would have been my second choice, so how is it?
The real pro is the fact that it's not connected to the bike in any way. No electrics and no vacuum pipes. It does seem a bit more sensitive to temperature though and I had to adjust it massively in the winter. Otherwise all good. Haven't needed to adjust the chain at all in the last 3000 miles.
Hello, is this product no longer for sale? On the website, when I accept the terms and conditions, it does not let me continue with the purchase, a page jumps... non-private connection...
They’re definitely still for sale and they’re a small company. Maybe you could send them an email to let them know there’s a problem with their website‘s security certificate?
The oil runs off of the sprocket on to the rollers of the chain. Due to capillary action from the close contact between the rollers and the sprocket, the oil works across the whole roller and on to the inside edge of the roller. I can categorically confirm this, because the other side of the sprocket is also wet with oil. The chain has always lasted exponentially longer for me with a chain oiler than without. Ultimately i don’t need to convince you of something, the opposite of which you have already convinced yourself. If you don’t want a chain oiler, good for you. But i know they work and that they keep my chain in good condition for longer.
Greatest inventors of all time: Alexander Graham Bell, James Watt, Stephanie Kwolek- WRONG! Utter nonsense! What world would we live in without Maurus C. Logan and his cable ties/zip ties?
If chain oilers are needed why don’t they come fitted? I’m a long term BMW shaft drive biker because I hate that oily mess and the thought that I’m just making a grinding paste
Chains need to be cleaned and lubricated. That’s indisputable. Chain oilers are just another way to achieve that. Obviously manufacturers don’t want to fit them because of the increased part count, complexity and end price. Naturally shaft drive is the cleanest and easiest way to solve the Problem, but the added weight, complexity and power loss makes it a less than ideal solution for every platform. To be honest i hated chains and resigned myself to the fact that I’d have to get a super expensive (or very old) BMW. But chain oilers have reopened the world of chain driven bikes to me. Hugely reduced faff and maintenance for relatively low cost. Of course finally having a single sided swing also really helps with the reduction of faff as i now no longer need to disturb the chain adjustment to remove the wheel or worry about chain alignment ever again. All in all, I’m very happy with this setup.
This can be said about a lot of those optional BMW packs, can't it ... e.g. : if ESA is really needed, why doesn't it come fitted. Nevertheless, I bet you have payed extra for ESA on your bike. And we're speaking of a completely different price level :P
@sudolea Another very good point. At least most of them are coming from the factory with traction control and ABS as standard! I remember when you had to pay for that as an extra!
I think that not everybody likes them, so the cost for the manufacturers would be too much for an unwanted component. I personally think they're brilliant and will never be without one !
It works easily as well as my old Scottoiler, but with the added bonus of having no connections to the bike! Plus the aluminium cover looks far cooler than a plastic bottle on show!!
Hello Andy, I wonder where to install the oil container on a 2008 FZ1. Not very mechanical gifted. I can't see where the oil chart mentions can be attached on the above. Any advise?
Hi Andy, Its 11/06/22 and just brought a second hand cb1000r 2018 and wondering what pin size you used for the rear stand?Can you please msg me when you get a chance.thanks
Verdict so far Mr AndyManCam? Still happy? (I know it’s not the greatest of test periods but I’m about to pull the trigger on one)....🤔 Cheers in advance fella
Very happy mate. Seems to be working fine. Just have to be sure not to overfill, but otherwise all good. Regulating the flow is easy enough as the temp changes and very simple.
Hey man if i can make a small suggestion for editing, whenever you stop talking the music gets louder but when this is happening between sentances it makes it uncomfortable to listen to.
Very good. Even after 1500km in horrible torrential rain and cold (video is on the way) the chain just looked like it could maybe do with a little wipe, nothing more! Still oiled and quiet though. So far, I'm happy.
In that case, I say go for it! On mine with the single sided arm, chain adjustment is now super easy, but trying to lube it on the road without a paddock stand is a pure exercise in frustration!!
Bought the Tutoro 2 weeks ago. I saw your video, and did a lot of comparison. Unfortunatley the shipment was not complete, but after sending a mail, Tutoro replied, and directly sent the missing piece. very good service. Thanks to AndyManCam video's i knew how to install this (thanks Andy - love your videos!). I will keep you posted once I have tested it. I loved the part of the installation that in the end you can put the magnet on the Tutoro device. If oil goes into the tube, you are rewarded for the labour you have put into it. please continue andy with your great video's. looking forward to new video's as well. still thinking if I should by the quickshifter ;-)
Glad to hear I could help mate! I really enjoyed the quickshifter on the FZ1. I'm also considering getting one for the CB1KR, but maybe after the next service!
Great video, only now do I realise the effort of making these videos after starting to do my own channel. Well done. Enjoy, stay safe!
Thanks mate. Yeah there’s a fair bit of behind the scenes, as you’re now discovering!
Tutoro's oiler is simplicity in itself. Nick manufactures these 2 miles down the road from me and I've had my auto oiler for 5 years now! Had it mounted on my CBR500R before I ported it over onto my Fazer Thou. I was involved in a development programme with him a while back that allowed me to fit an oiler onto my 07 R1 but found that most people would prefer the auto oiling option with a moderate capacity instead having to manually prime the delivery system at the start of each ride.
One thing Nick advised me to do was to either cover the unit when you're cleaning the bike with detergent or snow foam. I notice you've got the stone chip shield on it, but the chemicals will attack the polymeric components causing them to swell. I needed to have my lid machined back to be in the right tolerance otherwise it would have cracked the entire reservoir.
There's a Tutoro user group on facebook which show some of the users routing solutions; enduro bikes, single sided swingarms, braced swingarms etc.
It's always interesting to hear the stories behind these things! Most people think that products just appear on the shelves! Cheers mate!
@@AndyManCam I've been using Tutoro since 2007, back when the oiler was simply a reservoir with a simple screw valve. It's somewhat serendipitous that i moved to the forest of dean only to be down the road.
The Universe knows! 😜
Ahh the jiggle oiler! It has my interest. Look forward to a usage review Andy
It’s working well so far Adam 👍🏻
Had tutoro oiler for two years great bit of kit. The trick is in the set up you made a good there Andi.
Thanks Steve. Glad to hear that yours is going well. Hoping mine will be just as reliable!
Told a friend about this item, just about to send to your video. Also introduce him to the world of Andy Man Cam! Brilliant video. Sorry I forgot to put a comment when I watched this video.
Many thanks! Increasing the family!
Just installed mine today on my Vstrom 1000. Tomorrow a testride to get the settings right.
Cool, hope it all works out perfectly. Just don’t overfill it!!
Brilliant install, Andy. Looks like a great product too.
Thanks very much John. It certainly seems quality so far.
Good review Andy - I just signed off trading my 2004 GS on a F900XR (chain drive), so missed out on all that mucking around for 16 years! Previously I had a Scottoiler on a VFR800 which I was very happy with but got my mechanic to do the vacuum connection for me. This looks like a much better solution - I'll be ordering one now so hopefully it will arrive in Oz in time for the bike delivery in 3-4 weeks.
Many thanks Ant. I can imagine that going form shaft back to chain is a bit of a faff upgrade! I hope the Tutoro eases your transition!
Hi there, how’d you go with this oiler? Would you recommend it?
@@samiam5326 so far all good, a fair bit of faffing around to find a mounting point for the reservoir that was vertical and gave access to refill, ended up using p-clips on the sub-frame. The scottoiler was easier to mount as it didn’t have to be vertical, but you do have to cut into a vacuum line.
@@tonykisvardai2346 thanks. I’m going to give one a go as I’m getting a new chain and sprockets fitted next service.
A nice tidy effort! good work AMC
Cheers Ron! Was a surprisingly easy install!
Good stuff as always Andy. Echoing a couple of others though, I'd prefer the background music to stay at the consistent background level, rather than jumping up every time you take a breath. Other than that great as per the norm
Ta very much! 👍🏻 I’ll pass the music comments on to the cutting department. 😉
Hello Andy,
many thanks for introducing this kind of technique. I am really excited to learn that you do not threw extra wires or tubes underneath your seat and across the chassis. And am glad to learn that Tutoro has got some dealers on the continent in particular after January 1st this year...
That stuff is definitely worth a try. Don't miss that offer about a cup of coffee especially during these weather condition nowadays. Cheers mate.
My pleasure Peter! Very happy to help mate!
Great install. So relaxing lol
I too was worried about vacuum style oilers. Glad to see another alternative.
Thanks Mick! Very happy to have opened your eyes to the possibility! No cutting required!
been watching ur channel now for about a month all good work keep up the great job
Thanks Marcial! Welcome aboard!
Very neat..Used the same oiler on my last 4 bikes. Simple and foolproof, which is handy for me..
Happy travels
What a brilliant idea, I will look them up. Cheers Mate and thank you for another great video.
My pleasure Mr TPR. Happy to help and also happy to report that the first 5000km have been problem free!
Very easy installation and a lot quicker than the Scottoiler V system. I'm interested as to your views on the oilers performance so far??
I agree Bob. So far I'm very happy. about 5000 miles on a fill up and the chain is clean and oiled, even after a weekend in the rain. 👍🏻
Great video Andy.
That looks a great chain lubricator. I will invest in one of those when I get a KTM Super Duke 👌
Seems to be just the ticket so far!
Thank you Andy for this interesting video.
Hello from France .
Merci to you for watching!
Nailed it brother. Loved it. Ordering my TUTORO today. Hope you get a kickback for it.
Thanks Kent! Sadly not, but helping you guys find these products is a bit of a reward in itself! Plus it's a British company so, patriotism innit!
Love the vid! Do you think the oiler can be routed to the front sprocet? Or would it make a bigger mess? Keep up the great work!
I suppose it probably could. Depends on how much space and access you would have there. But the overall goal is to get the oil on to the rollers of the chain.
Great bit of kit but it can take a bit of time to get the flow correct. Mine has been on 4 bikes so far.
It was always the same with the Scottoiler too. Have to remember to adjust if the weather changes drastically too! Mostly seems good so far with the recommended half a turn. Chain is shiny but not soaking and I’m getting (extrapolated) 6-7000km from a fill up. 👍🏻 Impressed so far.
Now that’s Ace! Suits the look of the bike too!
Thanks! I agree, the ally guard is a nice touch.
Looks like a good system that. Much less scary than the vacuum hose option! Said it before but love those SW Motech foot pegs!
Totally agree! The last thing i wanted to do to a brand new bike was start chopping about the vacuum hoses!! 🤢
I wanted as little interference with the bike as possible. The Tutoro is easily the most simple.
@@adrian69644 it doesn't work on vibration see here for a full explanation :-) www.tutorochainoiler.com/pages/how-does-the-tutoro-auto-work
Thanks for yet another great video!! love your approach
You are so welcome! Cheers for watching!
Nice work Andy👍 Definitely much nicer than the vacuum route. Well thought out & cautious installation. With Nuts & Ho’s -es one must be cautious 😁
Very true indeed! Softly, softly...
Loved your video , enjoy your new bike.
Thanks, will do! 😊
Hi Andy, great vid I’m thinking about getting one of these for my KTM Superduke 990, they look great with not having to worry about electrical issues wiring it up, 👌
It’s definitely the easiest of all the oilers to fit!
@@AndyManCam did you have any problems with the oil spraying over the back wheel
Not once you get the flow right.
Hi Andy, oiler looks good. I'm actually really curious as to which rear stand you're using, been trying to decide what stand I've been wanting to get for my CB and so far the superbike stand is at the top of my list.
It's from a German company called Stein Dinse.
Great video! I was just wondering if you could instal the reservoir tank straight above the chain, so it can drop the oil straight on the top of a chain instead of using hose wire to provide it all the way down to the sprocket?
You could, but the delivery point would need to be very close to the chain to avoid oil just being blown away before it even reaches where it needs to be. This is then made difficult because the swingarm will be constantly moving up and down and also the chain itself will be jumping up and down. So you would have to leave too much gap to avoid smashing the reservoir and as such most of the oil would end up everywhere else except where it needs to go. Delivering it to the sprocket means the oil is never ‚in the air‘. It goes straight into the sprocket and then finds it way directly on to the chain. 👍🏻
The big issue with the original scottooler was varying flow rates due to temperature. This is solved with the electronic version. It pumps a fixed amount regardless of temp and you can adjust that up or down. It's only two wires on to the battery.
TBH Scotty, i never had that much of a problem. I just knew that as winter approached, I’d dial a couple of extra clicks in and the opposite as summer rolled back around again. Certainly not enough of a problem to spend twice the money. Very cool that the option is there though, for those that can’t be bothered with that faff!
@@AndyManCam Agreed. Cost is an issue with them. I guess it's a personal judgement on whether its justified or not. 👍
Absolutely. Like so many motorcycling products where the cheap on will work, but for the extra mile you have to stump up way more cash! If it works for you, then it’s worth it. If it works without, then that’s a money-saving win in the other direction!
Agreed. When people have asked me whether an oiler is worth it I always say it depends on the mileage they do. They're a bit of a faff to install and theres the cost to justify. Just depends on the usage 👍
I’d possibly go as far as to say that they’re worth it, whatever mileage you do. That is, as long as you’ll one day wear a set of chain and sprockets out. (I once met a guy on a Fazer rideout in 2015 who had a 1999 FZS600, that he bought new, with 12,000 miles on it!) If so the just by doubling the life of the chain, you save the cost of the oiler in replacement parts!
Nice , Simple and clean install, its adjustable so hopefully not to much over splatter on your nice new wheels and tires .Cheers
Thanks Brent. So far the splatter effect has been quite minimal. Mostly just on the swingarm in front of the sprocket, so not even very visible.
Great video, i have been using this on my bike for many years now & it works well, but like you said It gets a bit messy (oil flicking up)......
Cheers Baz! I think i much prefer wiping a bit of splash off the rear end, than scrubbing caked on filth from the undercarriage…
There‘s nothing worse when you’re running along and the nuts get in the way of the hose.
So true!
Looks nice and simple to install Andy now you have done some miles on her .1 how’s it performing in use & 2 how dirty is the rear wheel getting as I’m thinking of getting my wheels done in gold and obviously want minimal smog on them .? Keep the videos coming luvin your work .
After 5000km, all working well mate. Obviously a bit of spatter, but be easy enough to wipe off with a cloth.
How well did the TuToRo work on your Honda in the 2 years after the install? Considering an oiler for my KTM Duke.
Funny you should ask that, the next video up is the round up review! Should be ready tomorrow 👍🏻
Have one on my 2014 nc750x from new and wokes well but needs resetting in the winter
Agreed. I had to crank it WAY up when the weather dropped. Otherwise it seemed like nothing was coming out!
Fantastic! Have always been put off oilers for the very reasons you highlighted in the vid. Seriously considering one of these, how has it held up so far? Or is that to be revealed in an update vid 🤓
I had a bit of teething trouble at the beginning because it wasn’t working. Turned out I’d just over filled it, so user error! Since then covered 5000km and the chain still looks good. Reservoir seems to be good for about 6-7000km on a top up at my current Settings too. All in all, positive experience so far!
Andy, the oil will make a messy(spilled)on swing arm, rear section or not while riding.
Looking forward to see your advice.
I like to buy one of them too.
Sure, it'll make a bit of a mess. But cleaning off the swingarm etc... is a lot less work than cleaning the chain once a week! TBH it's really not that much mess either.
@@AndyManCam is it possible to make video how to clean the front sprocket on CB1000r
Hi, how often do you clean the chain ? does the constant/consistent lubing of the chain by the unit keep the chain cleaner for longer or do you have to use the kettenmax just as often as if you were to use traditional lubrication methods ? How much extended chain/sprocket life do you expect to get by using the tutoro ?
I definitely clean the chain way less often. Maybe once a month at most. I’ve yet to see how long I’ll get but I’m on 15,000km so far and i think the chain has maybe another 5-10,000 left. Not bad considering that (IMHO) the Honda OE chain is pretty rubbish!
hi Andy. Maybe there are comments about this but please reply to me again. Is there chance to lubricate the inside rings, or both in the same time (inside and outside), or it only comes with one side lubricating mechanism? Thank you in advance.
For a while they used to have a twin nozzle, but now discontinued. I’ve always found that the inside of the sprocket is never completely dry as a bit of oil is always forced around there. 👍🏻
No party is complete without the hose 😂
It’s a mantra to live by.
Thumbs up for the judicious use of cable ties,
A cable tie in time, saves nine.
My experience with those stick on hose supports, after heat, cold, washing and chain oil is flung over them they'll be hanging down, be careful
I’ve mostly had no trouble TBH. Just have to make sure its PROPERLY clean before sticking.
Quality job Andy 👍
Many thanks Anthony.
Hi Andy. Sticky pads = do it again later with something more substantial in my experience! By the time you've washed it a few times and it has flung some oil around, I reckon you'll be doing those again! Unit looks OK, but small in comparison to a Scottoiler. It'll be interesting to see how it gets on! I've just invested in a new Z900 to be my second bike, so may go with this solution if it pans out. Good vid! Liked the cable tie technique!👍
Yeah, not convinced about the size of that deposit, though I've found that modern glues on sticky pads can work.
Cheers Christopher. Hopefully they’ll do ok. The hoses on the Scottoiler were held on with sticky pads and were still holding on to the yamaha as i sold it! Also managed a 4000km round trip and the reservoir was still 1/3 full. Never managed that with the scottoiler, although i had the Louis special edition which is a bit smaller. So far I’m pretty happy with it. Few teething problems until i realized that I’d overfilled it. Since then, all good.
@@AndyManCam OK! I get it! It's just me that's crap at sticky pads!! 😉😂 They're like my kryptonite!!
Haha! It’s all about that prep! Clean it, clean it, clean it and for dogs sake don’t touch it!! 😂
Great video & now subscribed. Love the idea of not having to cut into the bikes hoses, which Tutora did you use?on the website they have a few options….👍🏼
Thanks very much Pauline. I think I have the Patrol Kit, but with the extra mount arm and stone guard.
Andy which oil did it come with (did you get to choose?)? Their site says not to use Plus25 in the UK, but it seems to me that is exactly the right choice for our temperature range here (and probably the same for you).
I have the normal one and it seemed to be just right in the up to 30 degrees that we had last month. It’s my understanding that in temperatures below 25 degrees the plus 25 will be too thick to get good flow when it gets colder. Which lets be honest, is the vast majority of the year on the UK!
@@AndyManCam Super, thx! (now you mention it, perhaps the clue is in the name... ;) doh! :D )
Haha! I think that the name might have a clue hidden in there somewhere!
Wow, that looked easy, easier than ye olde Scott Oiler (which I have used on every bike for 30 years) ;-) Oiler's work: As an aside, my v-strom1000 chain went 25K miles with oiler and it still wasn't worn out, I changed the chain because I needed something todo during lockdown LOL.
Haha! Brilliant! Totally agree though. After 15,000km the chain on the Versys still looked new when i sold it and the same for the Yamaha. And all that with vastly reduced cleaning and adjusting! They definitely work.
My understanding is that these chains are sealed with grease and do not need to be lubricated--just cleaned.
Absolutely correct. But the rollers and sides of the plates rubbing against the sprockets benefits from the extra oil. Without it the sprockets wear out quicker and also the chain heats up more and results in faster degradation of the rubber seals and the grease they hold in. Also an oiled chain is far quieter than a dry one.
Well done Andy, really enjoy your maintenance tutorials (and your country rides as well haha). I am thinking of doing the same on the RE650. So was a very interesting headsup - if only I can find that Lube unit in NZ! I could always order online... :)
Cheers! I’m liking the gadget so far. Mostly the lack of a need to use that horrible spray wax stuff!
Fastbikegear in Auckland used to sell them but not any more. Online must be the only option now
@@Liam1304 Thanks Liam, I'll let the fingers do the walking on the keyboard now...
Good luck, would be a shame if you can’t get one down there.
@@Liam1304 yes I found that out after an email contact.
Really good device that. I’d never heard of them before. I wouldn’t use a Scot oiler as don’t want to mess about with wires and vacuum things. This looks ideal. 👍
My thoughts exactly! (Almost) no irreversible alterations to the bike whatsoever!
After your Vosges trip, do you have a better view of your Tutoro "consumption" per (1000) km ? I ask this because since this installation video of yours, I installed a Tutoro on my bike, and I wonder if I could ride e.g. the RDGA, next year, with only one extra container oil fill...
After a few good long trips, I can tell you that (on my settings of half a turn open) in warm weather the filled reservoir lasted for about 5000km, so about 3000 miles. Not bad at all and enough for most 'ordinary' tours!
Hi Andy, just as an update, have you had any issues with the oiler ?
Just bought to install but your reservoir fixing position looks different to mine as I don't have engine bars fitted. Would the bracket fit in same position if I remove bolt cover on std bike
I think you might need some kind of spacer, as the bolt is recessed into the frame (as I recall). But that of course means that it is possible, just with perhaps a tiny little it of extra faff!
I got around it by positioning on off side and cutting a mounting bracket. I will post photo when done, pipe routing will be same but from opposite side
Glad to hear it. With so many bolts and mounts, there always has to be a solution in there somewhere!
Very useful and informative !
Thanks David!
Your Welcome.
Good luck with that Scottoiler do all electric Oiler! Its wen you push you bike backwards that oil pip caching on the sprocket nuts can be a problem.
But this one is a not scottoiler with NO electric! The Feed nozzle is very well fixed and rearward movement is no problem at all. All depends on the quality of the install, I suppose!
I like the look of this system, hope it’s available in the UK. All self contained, no plumbing into the bike. I’ll be interested in how you get on with it.
Even better than that Peter, it’s designed and made in England! So far I’m really happy with it after 5000km.
Peter Brewer it’s a British invention.
Thanks for that, I just looked it up. It’s nice to have something made in England for a change! I may well be investing in one of these ;-)
@@AndyManCam How many miles is 5000km for the UK audience 😂
Just on my bike 3000 miles
There is a risk one will get fed up with the splatter and it sounds like this could be bothersome if you like to keep bikes looking as good as possible, despite all weather riding ... I considered this oiler for my bike but having seen the mess this oiler created on a colleagues bike it's on hold for now. His tail/number plate area and rear wheel gets caked in fling and he just can't dial it in to get a good trade-off setting. Some of the fling must end up on his brake disc as both sides of his wheel get caked up 🤔. Plus, if you want the extra bits 'n bobs fitting kit the price rises steeply. At the moment I'll stick with Wurth dry chain lube spray every 400 or so miles = practically zero fling. I clean chain with parrafin every 600 to 800 miles (I take a small pot on tour with me). When I clean my chain with paraffin it still looks new and after two years of ownership and 14k miles chain tension has never been required to tighten it. Oilers are certainly convenient, particularly on tour, but I have OCD with, ahem, rear-end cleanliness! I hope it doesn't become an issue for you. Thanks for the review, I like how you used the cable tie locking block as an anchor, looks a bit tidier. 👍 Be good if you could provide an update in a few months to see what it's like long term in different temps and climates, oil consumption and range from the reservoir, etc as I'm still considering getting one. Ta.
I totally understand that Critch. I guess it comes down to which end of the cleaning spectrum you’re happiest to spend your time. I prefer to run a rag around the back end (oo-er) once a week than get involved with the chain. Of course now that i have a single sided swingarm and no center stand, cleaning and lubing on tour is exponentially more difficult! TBH I’ve always found that no matter what i do, the bike looks like a swamp tried to eat it when i get back from any tour, so a deep clean is always in order! But being able to forget about the chaintenance (maybe i should copyright that one!) is a huge bonus for me when all i want to do is park the bike and get on with the evening entertainment!
Nice video. I had looked at Tutoro already, immediately after you presented your new bike. I'm interested in the follow up... No 5% discount link this time ?
So far, all going well. I’m happy with it. Afraid no discount code. I actually get offered very few of those 😔
Hello Andy, I have a question.. this oiler appears to only lube one side of the chain, does it track across to the inner plates ?
Yes it does. Both ends of the roller get plenty of oil.
I got a scottoiler x system brilliant system no plumbing into vacuum system
But still connecting to the electrics. I wanted ZERO interference with either and no dependence on the bikes systems.
Sleek looking piece of kit Andy. Nice fit. Keen to see how well it works. Hey, one other thing. Just got back from a 1500km solo road trip that took in several epic motorcycle roads, the Putty Rd, Thunderbolts Way & the Oxley Hwy which it in itself has over 300 bends. No scares, a great trip..If ever in Oz you must consider some of these.👍🏍🇦🇺
Cheers Russell. Working great so far. I’m loving the larger reservoir than the special edition Scottoiler that i had. I can go for 5-7k km between refills now, so no need to take extra oil for most trips. Well done on the scarefree carefree trip mate! If only they could all always be that way! Oz & Nz would be a truly epic tour. On the bucket list for sure.
Chain oilers are brill, used a SO myself always a blank takeoff somewhere around intakes, oil much cleaner than glue shite sticking spray Amen!
Agreed. Though no blank vac ports here as everything is interconnected. Apparently the CB throttle bodies are somehow self balancing? Not gotten truly to the bottom of that yet, but no need to worry as this oiler was the simplest install!
Bit of a buzz on the microphone Andy. Increased the gain when editing or through hardware?
It‘s just buzz mate. I’m running this ship on a shoestring and using what I’ve got! If I was recording in a proper studio, with pro gear, then it would bother me. As it is, I’m just happy when it all worked according to plan!
@@AndyManCam Cheers. I was just wondering if it was a setting of sorts or some minor glitch. No other reason to post this on here :). Keep at it. You've been doing great!
Does it really need to oil the chain right be the sprocket? @16:33 Can you not do a short tube right there?
If you have the oiler lubing anywhere other than at either of the sprockets, then there is far too much movement of the swingarm. This movement prevents you from putting the nozzle close enough and therefore you'd lose most of the oil in the wind. You could mount the nozzle on to the swingarm, but there is still also a lot of movement through chain slap. One jump from the chain and the whole nozzle assembly could be ripped from it's mounts and destroyed forever!
@@AndyManCam Thanks for the explanation!
My pleasure entirely!
I suppose if you don't have a centre stand these may be beneficial. Gear oil is the best for chains so will this accept gear oil or must it be their own oil?
Gear oil is probably thicker than their oil. It might not flow very well, or work right with that vibration valve.
I was looking at the manual online the other week, it's well written and long AF. Full of warnings about how washing the bike or using the wrong lube might bugger it. It says gearbox oil will swell the cap and you'll crack the tube. They used to make one with a on/off tap for like £15
@@dazednconfused31337 Yes, I had one of those £15 jobs. For me, a waste of £15. Back in the day I've also tried the old Scotoiler, which are still overly expensive. I've come to the conclusion that regular manually oiling of the chain while on the centre stand and running the engine in 1st gear is my preferred option.
MrC InTheUK for god sake, don’t have the bike running in gear while doing chain maintenance. That’s one fast was to lose fingers. Only takes a split second, you’re finger gets between the chain and sprocket and say bye bye to your digit.
@@robzz9002 Take your point, which is why I now use a long, flexible oil can. Been doing it for 47 years and I've still got 6 fingers left! 👍😁
That just seems like it would make one hell of a mess… if all it takes is vibration to make oil come out. 🤔….. I’m rly interested in this because it would be a game changer if it works as advertised.
Of course you already tried but it seems to far out and touch the ankles no? keep enjoy that great looking machine!!!
Nooo, No trouble at all. 5000km travelled so far and zero ankle contact thus far. 👍🏻
Hi Andy, how is the oiler working out?
Very well so far Brian. Happy with the range that a fill up gives you and the chain is constantly wet and running smooth/quiet.
@@AndyManCam excellent, I`m glad you made the video, I was considering one too, now I think I will give it a go. Thanks Andy and keep up the great work
Very happy to help mate. Hope it works out as well for you too. 👍🏻
like you i hate the fact the scottoiler cuts into the vacuum hose and always gave it a wide berth. This looks the dogs Andy and great tutorial as always.. Cheers Mate may need to invest in this. 👌
Cheers mate. The LAST thing I was going to be doing with a new bike was hacking in to the vacuum system. Have you looked at the pipewrok on the CB? it's an absolutle nightmare! NO idea which one to use. SO this is the ideal solution! Luckily, it's also working really well!
Haven't mate.. glad it's working well.. I'm down south for a couple of days and just listened to your podcast with TP.. Helped me through my first 150 miles 😄👍
14 dislikes wtf is wrong with some people? once again first class tutorial Andy, How have you got on with it ? Is it worth me buying one for my cb 1000r now you have run it for a few months?
It comes with the territory Tony! It's been mostly good. Seemed to stop working for a little while, but turns out I had it mounted too loosely! Still testing though. Sadly weather doesn't want to play along so much at the moment!
@@AndyManCam thanks Andy think I might hold off buying one until I get some more reviews 👍
Great idea but… I think I’d rather just oil my chain occasionally than have that device on my bike. Great video though! Music could be a little more rock to be aligned with more motorcycle vibe. Just my opinion.
Each to their own mate. Personally i HATE chain maintenance, so this device adds valuable hours back on to my life! I also prefer to not always rely on the fact that people think bikes mean rock. There’s a whole menu out there and stereotypes were made to be broken!
I'm interested in this. How much more life would you guesstimate with these vs lubing every 200 miles and cleaning every 800-1000 miles?
How do you mean the bike gets dirtier with these vs spray lube?
Before oilers, i would get around 10,000km before the chain was loose and flappy. On my last bike, after 20,000km (and the chain was already fitted when i bought the bike) the chain and sprockets still looked like they had plenty of life. I was never the most dedicated cleaner, but still. Over double the life is nothing to be sniffed at. The oil from the oiler is thinner than the spray wax. So it’s thrown off by the oiler and therefore ends up on the rear wheel and the rear of the bike. Though when the settings are right, this is nothing more than a wipe with a cloth once a week.
Any word on pros/cons of this one? I've already pulled the trigger and I mounted my scottoiler to my FZ1 today. But this would have been my second choice, so how is it?
The real pro is the fact that it's not connected to the bike in any way. No electrics and no vacuum pipes. It does seem a bit more sensitive to temperature though and I had to adjust it massively in the winter. Otherwise all good. Haven't needed to adjust the chain at all in the last 3000 miles.
That’s really clever with the mahnets
Clever british engineering!
Hello, is this product no longer for sale? On the website, when I accept the terms and conditions, it does not let me continue with the purchase, a page jumps... non-private connection...
They’re definitely still for sale and they’re a small company. Maybe you could send them an email to let them know there’s a problem with their website‘s security certificate?
@@AndyManCam Thanks for the response, yes, I have already notified the company of the problem, greetings
@javiaguayo1437 👍🏻👍🏻
Hello this way you are only lubrificante the left side links off the chain the oil ill never ritch the right
The oil runs off of the sprocket on to the rollers of the chain. Due to capillary action from the close contact between the rollers and the sprocket, the oil works across the whole roller and on to the inside edge of the roller. I can categorically confirm this, because the other side of the sprocket is also wet with oil. The chain has always lasted exponentially longer for me with a chain oiler than without. Ultimately i don’t need to convince you of something, the opposite of which you have already convinced yourself. If you don’t want a chain oiler, good for you. But i know they work and that they keep my chain in good condition for longer.
Hi Andy, How are you getting on with the Tutoro after a year?
Good! Still oiling and the chain is still kicking! The hose has hardened a bit around the reservior connection, but that is a relatively easy fix.
If it is not too much to ask, what is the diameter of the motorcycle stand shatft? I have one already that I want to trim down since it is too big.
I'll have to measure that the next time I'm in the garage.
So it only lubes one side of the chain? Could you not have bought the Sottoiler V and slipped that on the end to get both sides?
Would you happen to know who makes the rear stand? And if it allows you to take the wheel off?
Sure! I bought it from a German company called Stein Dinse and yes it does allow you to take the wheel off.
Am I right in thinking you have removed the exhaust guards?
Not yet, but I’m thinking about it.
Nice little device mate.
Cheers mate. I agree. Working well so far.
great vids just perfect for sharing.
Glad to hear it! Cheers for spreading the word!
Greatest inventors of all time: Alexander Graham Bell, James Watt, Stephanie Kwolek- WRONG! Utter nonsense! What world would we live in without Maurus C. Logan and his cable ties/zip ties?
100% with you there! Greatest multitool ever created!
@@AndyManCam Surely that accolade has to go to gaffer tape!!? ;) :D
Gaffer is definitely up there! And don’t forget velcro!
If chain oilers are needed why don’t they come fitted? I’m a long term BMW shaft drive biker because I hate that oily mess and the thought that I’m just making a grinding paste
Chains need to be cleaned and lubricated. That’s indisputable. Chain oilers are just another way to achieve that. Obviously manufacturers don’t want to fit them because of the increased part count, complexity and end price. Naturally shaft drive is the cleanest and easiest way to solve the Problem, but the added weight, complexity and power loss makes it a less than ideal solution for every platform. To be honest i hated chains and resigned myself to the fact that I’d have to get a super expensive (or very old) BMW. But chain oilers have reopened the world of chain driven bikes to me. Hugely reduced faff and maintenance for relatively low cost. Of course finally having a single sided swing also really helps with the reduction of faff as i now no longer need to disturb the chain adjustment to remove the wheel or worry about chain alignment ever again. All in all, I’m very happy with this setup.
This can be said about a lot of those optional BMW packs, can't it ... e.g. : if ESA is really needed, why doesn't it come fitted. Nevertheless, I bet you have payed extra for ESA on your bike. And we're speaking of a completely different price level :P
@sudolea Another very good point. At least most of them are coming from the factory with traction control and ABS as standard! I remember when you had to pay for that as an extra!
OK so when do we get to meet Mrs. Cam?
When she decides that she’s ready for superstardom!
I think manufacturers should design automatic chain oilers so you buy the bike with it part of the bike already.
I think that not everybody likes them, so the cost for the manufacturers would be too much for an unwanted component. I personally think they're brilliant and will never be without one !
Do it work as well as other electronic auto Oiler’s. Thinking of getting one for my bike.
It works easily as well as my old Scottoiler, but with the added bonus of having no connections to the bike! Plus the aluminium cover looks far cooler than a plastic bottle on show!!
Hello Andy, I wonder where to install the oil container on a 2008 FZ1. Not very mechanical gifted. I can't see where the oil chart mentions can be attached on the above. Any advise?
Where the oil container can be attached to the FZ1? Do you cover the container during rainy rides?
Nice job and unit 🤓
Cheers Jason!
Do you have hypermobility by any chance fella? 15:04 your fingers shouldn't bend like that. A HEDS sufferer myself.
Maybe a little bit. The Missus is always freaked out that i can bend my thumbs back 90 degrees 😂
@@AndyManCam yeah it's not "normal" 🤣 can you touch the ground with your palms keeping your legs straight?
No, that i am nowhere near being able to do! That’s what suggests to me it’s just the fingers.
@@AndyManCam just the weird mutant fingers then 🤣 trust me that's a lot better than being too flexible everywhere 👌
Hi Andy,
Its 11/06/22 and just brought a second hand cb1000r 2018 and wondering what pin size you used for the rear stand?Can you please msg me when you get a chance.thanks
Hi Cameron. I’m not sure about the size as it has two different diameters i think. My stand is by German brand Stein Dinse though. Hope that helps.
Verdict so far Mr AndyManCam? Still happy? (I know it’s not the greatest of test periods but I’m about to pull the trigger on one)....🤔 Cheers in advance fella
Very happy mate. Seems to be working fine. Just have to be sure not to overfill, but otherwise all good. Regulating the flow is easy enough as the temp changes and very simple.
Andy, what stand is that please?
It’s from a German brand called Stein Dinse. 👍🏻
Are you satisfied with the chain oiler?
Yes! Seems to be working fine!
Hey man if i can make a small suggestion for editing, whenever you stop talking the music gets louder but when this is happening between sentances it makes it uncomfortable to listen to.
Surely uncomfortable is a bit strong? Mildly annoying perhaps?! 😜
How’s it working out for you?
Very good. Even after 1500km in horrible torrential rain and cold (video is on the way) the chain just looked like it could maybe do with a little wipe, nothing more! Still oiled and quiet though. So far, I'm happy.
@@AndyManCam - Nice. Think I will pull the trigger. Just got a Z1000 with twin exhausts, which is an utter pig to do chain maintenance on.
In that case, I say go for it! On mine with the single sided arm, chain adjustment is now super easy, but trying to lube it on the road without a paddock stand is a pure exercise in frustration!!
Wow who would think a chain oiler would get so many people in the comments, never can tell.
Nowt stranger than folk!