This channel is absolutely wonderful medium to know the point of views of professional people on various social issue . I really appreciate. Love it.....
so the end the episode 3 concludes that if you want be in politics with power, you should be a slave to the establishment, do what they say and nothing else. a very informative series by TCM uncovering the realities of Pakistani Political system in such a polite way. really appreciate the work .
Loved your videos and vision. I know this channel is not for a purpose to earn money, to educate and cultivate new ideas. I would like to meet your team if possible in islamabad. Thanks
Very thanks .. Mostly tv channals are one-sided and we are fail to chase the truth. Great work , you presented each factor from independence of Pakistan to current politics .
Its politicians who can change the ways. Incapable politicians cannot govern Pakistan smoothly . Everyone discussing but no lesson learnt. General Chishti very correctly and honestly said the truth.
Bhai political parties too ghalti pa ghalti kar rahe heen.Lakan iss ka Matlab ye nahi ke army vale hamesha darmian me ajaeen. Jiss tara abb huva ha.Army valoon ne kiun election karvane nahi diye.army vale har department me ghusse huve heen.Army ki vajood pakistan ke lie hatra ban ghia.ham ne itna kilaya ke ye loog sab kuch bhol ghae.insabiyat bi bhol ghae.history me itne gher insan syad koi guzra ho.jitne ye army vale heen.
These people are speaking the truth what is wrong with the system in Pakistan people of Pakistan suffered so long under this kind of rule it’s time for the people to rise up if you have any hope the people of Pakistan are very knowledgeable and hard working the military and these two party’s have destructed Pakistan for the last 50 years for their own agendas❤🇵🇰 great video thanks for sharing it
سارا ملبہ سیاستدانوں پر مت ڈالیں ، آج ھم جن حالات سے گزر رھے ھیں وہ ان ناکام تجربوں کی وجہ سے ھے جو 76 سال سے طاقتور لوگ کررھے ھیں اور جب یہ تجربے ناکام ھوتے ہیں تو اس کا خمیازہ عوام بھگت چکی ہے اور مستقبل میں بھی بھگتے گی
what an amazing analysis . what i always talk about.. my whole conceptulizatino in one video. sometime i think am i wrong who think that way. but thanks for verifying my opinions
ohh seriously, Don't you see student unions already exist in every university? they are banned just from the politics not from the fighting. . they exist , fighitng for womens and do nothing. it should be opened and let the leaders comes throught proper channel. just look around universities. which univeristy don't have student unions?? they dont have problem from student unions but they dont want student in politics .they don't want a oppostion. suppose there is martial law. who can stop ?? only by student unions or lawyers etc etc. students unions were problem for ayub so when zia cam he removed all unions. to protect
not student, all politics is just invitation to looters and munafqeen. I've seen Zia's and Musharraf's periods - they were infinitely better times than today - Pakistan needs Sharia'a ka nifas protected by Army through Chief as Khalifah
Student unions disrupted education with 4 yrs degrees taking 6 , 7 yrs to complete and constant fighting including even firing in colleges and universities. Grades were then awarded on base of parties instead of merit
Absolutely correct - we actually need to have a charter of Technocracy proposed by Supreme Court and signed by all Corps Commanders, hassas idara chief and the teen barrays
I’m from Lahore, Pakistan 🇵🇰 I left Islam after reading Quran and listening Adam Seeker, Sahil Bhai, Zafar Heretics and Harris Sultan. I need your help, Sir.
@@daniyalahmad5247 Ha…Ha… so funny… do some research. You’ll know the truth. Mohammad was Rapist, who raped 9 yrs old baby Girl and many sex slaves force fully. He attacked and killed thousands of innocents and make slaves to her daughters, sisters and wives. Raped them forcefully. He even didn’t spare Maria al Qibtiya. And every time, Allah sent aayat to save this Rapist. Quran is written by Mohammad to fulfill his lust and desire, it has no logic and unscientific.
Toppling the government, sending the prime minister back home and changing the regime must given to the masses that they should decide through their vote. No agency is to be allowed to meddling in the prerogative rights of people, please.
NA should be a central legislative body only. There must be multiple provinces, I think every Division a province. Strong LB governments, all empowered, elected every 4 years should be functioning, generating their financial resources. A %age of this keeping themselves and rest going to provinces.
ek nizam hai (Allah pak)ka jo k khilafat aur ek nizam hai shitan ka jo hai jumhury .Shitani Islam ko torny k liyeh jumhury nizam banaya. Al Quran main hai Jo Allah pak k shariyat k mutabic faisly nahi karty wohi logh kafir hai....Pakistan ko yahoodi control karty hain yani IMF aur world bank wale
Deduction after 3 episodes is not focused. Basic Democrats must be independent and be able to collect local taxes for municipality jobs but they can not be thought of being a part of '1171' reps of 24 crore awam. They are in the real sense khidmatgars of people whereas Parliamentarians make laws for the country / provinces. Solution lies in making laws so that basic democracy works independent of Parliamentarians, irrespective of any party's govt coming to power or leaving it. This may be the first step before making bureaucracy independent.
Unfortunately the Intelect commenting are not right choice for the topic.. at least some of them were part of the democratic problem rather than commenting on the solution... such dichotomy of thought process.
Please try to bring some unbiased and logical political thinkers like Pervaiz Hoodbhoy and Syed Muzammil. I think Aasim Sajjad Akhter is the only one saying the truth but it was a bit filtered. Military is ruling this country there is no doubt. And LT Gen Chishta says "Army is not only for borders, and also rejecting the constitution", This is completely nonsense. From the beginning, this country is only a source of revenue for Army and elite class of this country. Every Pakistani should accept it and do something for it.
Pakistan Islam k liya ban tha . tm loogu ny islm se Bagawaat ke . iss liya Allah tala tm loogu ko Aps mai Laada rah hain Ye Allah tala ka Azaab hai tm loogu pe
@@bilalbashir interesting you said that, just the other day we were watching a number of reports how things started to improve in Afghanistan and a few of us here in the UK plan to move to Afghanistan soon after our retirement. What can be a better living milieu when things are decided under the aegis of Qur'an and Sunna in comparison to a country which is neither here nor there. May Allah open your eyes, ameen.
@@bilalbashirinsha'Allah, and from there will watch your country in tatters as time goes by, as Bengalis brothers and sisters are watching you with utter amazement and with sigh of relief from their country.
pakistan main har masli ka hal islami nizam ilsami nizam ..ok let me ask you a question... hamare pyare 4 sahaba Hazrat Abu bakar, Umar , Ali or Usman kis waja se shahdeed howe or Hazrat Hassan, Hussain kis waja se shaheeed howe. kya ye masayal badshahi se link ni the??? har policitcal issue ko or social issue ko islam se na link karo . har baat ko shariat or islam se jorna k ilawa koch soch lo.. kYa yaha read karni walai , or video banni wali sare non muslim hai . ? or ap aik wahid muslim hai
With due al respect if guys have guts make video on Army involvement in politics, accross the border smuggling, 16 december APS attacks lots of other topics i can give you if realy want shows us a real truth make videos on it otherwise, ap ka channel arealdy chal raha hai vo chlata rhai ga per zyda lamba nhi chla ga
Ahmed Bilal sitting here like He is talking sense and when KPK and Punjab assemblies were dissolved he was giving the similar statements about postponed the elections just like other establishment puppies. Sorry to say but your whole panel is full of shit. And don't talk about establishments real enemy. Which is by far the Great Imran Khan. Whether you like it or not, But in the end it's about slavery or freedom. Nothing else.
I think the third person from starting mispresented the "Federalism" agenda of Jinnah. Infact Jinnah had left very little vision for Pakistan's future constitution. He actually opposed the "provicism" and advocated One nation identity. "If you build up yourself into a nation···. Give up this provincialism. Provincialism has been one of the curses; and so is sectionalism- Shia, Sunni, etc." Public Address,Dacca 21 March 1948 "If we begin to think of ourselves as Punjabis, Sindhis, etc. first and Muslims and Pakistanis incidentally, then Pakistan is bound to disintegrate. Do not think that this is some abstruse proposition: our enemies are fully alive to its possibilities which I must warn you that they are already busy exploiting." Radio Broadcast, Dacca, 28 March 1948
Student unions disrupted education with 4 yrs degrees taking 6 , 7 yrs to complete and constant fighting including even firing in colleges and universities. Grades were then awarded on base of parties instead of merit
میری عمر بہت چھوٹی ہے لیکن میں آپ کا قسط وار وڈیو دیکھتا ہوں بہت اچھی اور بہترین لگی، معلوماتی اور بہترین ہدایت کا وڈیو پیغام ہے۔
Kiss class my party ho beta?
What is "Height of Optimism"
Pakistan desire for Democracy.
Wishing you guys success.
In India, hardly few thousand people would know the name of Three Army chiefs of ARmy, NAvy and airforce
and here in Pakistan they are the ones who decide fate of everyone in the country
As a indian 🇮🇳, realy sad for Pakistan.
don't be sad for for them weak Pakistan is good for india no terrorism no jihadis
@@hola7hola108 🤣 Lol. Which world are you living in
I Love these free Independent Channel ❤
This channel is absolutely wonderful medium to know the point of views of professional people on various social issue . I really appreciate. Love it.....
People of pakistan must listen these intellectuals if they are serious about them
Don't fool yourself by thinking these are so called "intellectuals".
Learn to think for yourself. Stop following others like a lost lamb
so the end the episode 3 concludes that if you want be in politics with power, you should be a slave to the establishment, do what they say and nothing else.
a very informative series by TCM uncovering the realities of Pakistani Political system in such a polite way. really appreciate the work .
best series .... very knowledgeable and factual based
Loved your videos and vision. I know this channel is not for a purpose to earn money, to educate and cultivate new ideas. I would like to meet your team if possible in islamabad. Thanks
Very thanks ..
Mostly tv channals are one-sided and we are fail to chase the truth.
Great work , you presented each factor from independence of Pakistan to current politics .
And that is 100% pure truth..
Love these videos, keep it up!
Its politicians who can change the ways. Incapable politicians cannot govern Pakistan smoothly . Everyone discussing but no lesson learnt. General Chishti very correctly and honestly said the truth.
Bhai political parties too ghalti pa ghalti kar rahe heen.Lakan iss ka Matlab ye nahi ke army vale hamesha darmian me ajaeen. Jiss tara abb huva ha.Army valoon ne kiun election karvane nahi diye.army vale har department me ghusse huve heen.Army ki vajood pakistan ke lie hatra ban ghia.ham ne itna kilaya ke ye loog sab kuch bhol ghae.insabiyat bi bhol ghae.history me itne gher insan syad koi guzra ho.jitne ye army vale heen.
@@hayatullahkhan476 phir army na aye to koi aur aa jae ga. Someone will fill the vaccume.
@@hayatullahkhan476 jab army sab jagh hai to army hata doge to sab gir jayega - jazbati na bano, fahm se kam lo
only sensible comment here - I second it
I am from India 🇮🇳 I seek political Bloodless Political Union of India and Pakistan ❤
Excellent, waiting for next episode
ROMANCE
"The beginning of an end"
D for Democracy, S for Sharif, Z for Zardari & Bhutto😁, H for Helper
Golden formula for a Democratic Democracy of Pakistan 🙏🙏🙏
well done excellent work carry on bro
These people are speaking the truth what is wrong with the system in Pakistan people of Pakistan suffered so long under this kind of rule it’s time for the people to rise up if you have any hope the people of Pakistan are very knowledgeable and hard working the military and these two party’s have destructed Pakistan for the last 50 years for their own agendas❤🇵🇰 great video thanks for sharing it
Wow! Such a nice video i have ever seen..
Ham nay kaha Mashallah. Wo samjhay Martial Law
Unhone lagaya Martial Law, humnay kaha Jazakallah
The main topic should be "who has the solution for this worst economic situation?"
Democracy,Democracy,Democracy is the solution only.
@@chotadinosaur8277 we continuously have democracy from past 20 years so compare economic data and inflation rate of military era & democratic era
@@najamalam4486 Its hybrid regime bro not democracy.
@@chotadinosaur8277 give whatever the term but these so called democratic leaders have never delivered to the nation but always strengthen themselves
Very informative channel TCM 👍
loved this series!
سارا ملبہ سیاستدانوں پر مت ڈالیں ، آج ھم جن حالات سے گزر رھے ھیں وہ ان ناکام تجربوں کی وجہ سے ھے جو 76 سال سے طاقتور لوگ کررھے ھیں اور جب یہ تجربے ناکام ھوتے ہیں تو اس کا خمیازہ عوام بھگت چکی ہے اور مستقبل میں بھی بھگتے گی
Unable to listen keep the audio sound quality high for upcoming series please
TCM is Vox of Pakistan
All person's are very sensible
Conclusion is Fugistan 😮 not Pakistan, since 1947 to be..........
Very good work.
Ahmad Bilal at last revealed its real intention, sign this or that and don't punish the corrupt politicans.
High time for Political workers to learn from.their mistakes and do the politics of ideology.
what an amazing analysis . what i always talk about.. my whole conceptulizatino in one video. sometime i think am i wrong who think that way. but thanks for verifying my opinions
fabulous plz keep it up
Pakistan, A forgotten land
❤
Is episode 4 released?
ONE WORD FOR THE VIDEO "PAID CONTENT"
Very well defined show.
TCM ORIGNALS YOU SHOULD LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT ITS A "PAID CONTENT"
I didn't know - by whom?
@@TheGrimStoic by ISI
@@rea683 you don't say! 'The title says Fight for Democracy' - o man - its messed up
@@TheGrimStoicWALLAH Dil ki bt bol di or yh sub democracy chlny dyngy is mulk mei😅pagal bnya hoa h awam koo
❤ beautiful.
Waiting for that 1 unavailable hidden video!
Student poltics shall never be allowed. Its yield is only fight fight and fight among young people. Not allowing is far better than opening it.
ohh seriously,
Don't you see student unions already exist in every university? they are banned just from the politics not from the fighting. . they exist , fighitng for womens and do nothing. it should be opened and let the leaders comes throught proper channel. just look around universities. which univeristy don't have student unions?? they dont have problem from student unions but they dont want student in politics .they don't want a oppostion. suppose there is martial law. who can stop ?? only by student unions or lawyers etc etc. students unions were problem for ayub so when zia cam he removed all unions. to protect
not student, all politics is just invitation to looters and munafqeen. I've seen Zia's and Musharraf's periods - they were infinitely better times than today - Pakistan needs Sharia'a ka nifas protected by Army through Chief as Khalifah
We 🇮🇳 consider "Jinnha" as hero, for creating Pakistan and successfully seggrigating the jihadis..
Jinnha saved we Hindu Baniya "Kaafirs"...
Amerikans are the real crusaders
he is a leader he was a leader he will remain our leader shutup
@@thebestmoments2105 قیاد سے برّ بھارت کا کوئی خیر خواہ ہو نہیں سکتا
میری جدید خواہش ہے بھرتی نوتے پی گاندھی کے بجے قیاد کا اقس ہو
@@TheGrimStoic your urdu is very poor i hope you will learn urdu then reply me
The video is good but the background sound is noise only.
Student unions disrupted education with 4 yrs degrees taking 6 , 7 yrs to complete and constant fighting including even firing in colleges and universities. Grades were then awarded on base of parties instead of merit
سیاسی جماعتوں کا غیر سیاسی مزاج بھی جمہوریت کی راہ میں رکاوٹ ہے۔
8:28 tall guy with waheed murad cut leading his student groups is my father 🤩🫡
یہ ہونا چاہیے وہ ہونا چاہیے ۔۔۔۔
لیکن کرے گا کون یہ کسی کو کچھ پتہ نہیں ۔۔۔ اس لئے اب یہ باتیں اپنی وقعت کھو بیٹھی ہیں ۔۔۔
lakh rupye ki baat
Next episode?
wow ahmed bilal❤️ We have lots of lessons from our neighbours that we need to learn as much as possible.
butparast cannot teach anything to Momin
MY DEAR U R RIGHT WHATEVER DISCUSSED. BUT SIR SORRY TO SAY DEMOCRACY IS NOT FIT IN PAKISTAN. BECAUSE THE VOTE IN SINDH CAST ON SINGLE PLATE OF RICE.
Yes and we have to work on that.
@@Jatoiroshan اہ کو چاہیے اک عمر اثر ہونے تک
کون جیتا ہے تیری زلف کے سر ہونے تک
I have one word for system LPC
After PDM performance, how could analysts talk about the charter of democracy
Absolutely correct - we actually need to have a charter of Technocracy proposed by Supreme Court and signed by all Corps Commanders, hassas idara chief and the teen barrays
I’m from Lahore, Pakistan 🇵🇰 I left Islam after reading Quran and listening Adam Seeker, Sahil Bhai, Zafar Heretics and Harris Sultan. I need your help, Sir.
❤
how can you left Islam?
I am amazed, don't you think that God is one? and Quran is the His holy book with 100% truth mentioned in it
@@daniyalahmad5247 Ha…Ha… so funny… do some research. You’ll know the truth.
Mohammad was Rapist, who raped 9 yrs old baby Girl and many sex slaves force fully. He attacked and killed thousands of innocents and make slaves to her daughters, sisters and wives. Raped them forcefully.
He even didn’t spare Maria al Qibtiya.
And every time, Allah sent aayat to save this Rapist.
Quran is written by Mohammad to fulfill his lust and desire, it has no logic and unscientific.
you chose to become wajibulqatl and now need help - give me your address - I'll help you inshaallah
Power should be in uc level presidental system is good
Bitter truth
Toppling the government, sending the prime minister back home and changing the regime must given to the masses that they should decide through their vote. No agency is to be allowed to meddling in the prerogative rights of people, please.
actually the problem is the social structures in pakistan..we are people pleasers...chahai army ka general ho ya chota sa heroinchy
kisko heroinchy bol rahe hou - Imran ko mauqa milta to Riyaast-e-Madina qayam ho jati - Amrika ke tout ho tum
NA should be a central legislative body only. There must be multiple provinces, I think every Division a province. Strong LB governments, all empowered, elected every 4 years should be functioning, generating their financial resources. A %age of this keeping themselves and rest going to provinces.
kyon should be must be ka ehtram kiya jaye - world works according to 'what can be, will be'; not 'what must be, should be'
@@TheGrimStoic all respects for ur deeply meaningful words
nwfp British connotation hai ? ab ye Nam badal gaya hai bhai jan ?
Khyber pkhatoonkha
Its is still NWFP
kpk
ek nizam hai (Allah pak)ka jo k khilafat aur ek nizam hai shitan ka jo hai jumhury .Shitani Islam ko torny k liyeh jumhury nizam banaya. Al Quran main hai Jo Allah pak k shariyat k mutabic faisly nahi karty wohi logh kafir hai....Pakistan ko yahoodi control karty hain yani IMF aur world bank wale
مجھے شدید حیرت ہے اتنی بنیادی بات انہیں سمجھ کیوں نہیں آ رہی
@@TheGrimStoic yahoodi pakistan k 4nizam pay control karty hain .1 Gernal nizam .2Adliya .3education system 4 beruocrate system..
O Bhai why all your analyst are from Punjab???? Why not from Karachi(the back bone of Pakistan) they have different opinion on this issue
Bcoz Pakistan is mostly Pakistani Punjab😂😂
B
Army is culprit. That is all. Army does all wrong things.
Good program. However you should change the title 'final solution' has a nazi genocide relevance.
It's like a baboon group led by a dominant male, to take on a situation, but a leopard is enough to handle this group.
Deduction after 3 episodes is not focused. Basic Democrats must be independent and be able to collect local taxes for municipality jobs but they can not be thought of being a part of '1171' reps of 24 crore awam. They are in the real sense khidmatgars of people whereas Parliamentarians make laws for the country / provinces. Solution lies in making laws so that basic democracy works independent of Parliamentarians, irrespective of any party's govt coming to power or leaving it. This may be the first step before making bureaucracy independent.
اسلام مقمّل دین ہے- شرعی'ا نفس کریں سب درست ہو جاےگا فورن
All TCM Dhalla……… All Bookwas
Chalay huvay kartoos.
میوزیک کم رکھیں
Unfortunately the Intelect commenting are not right choice for the topic.. at least some of them were part of the democratic problem rather than commenting on the solution... such dichotomy of thought process.
Though I would still give them the benefit of the doubt and listen to what is said vs. who says it... how hypocritical that can be...
Or may be
Minus army. Take away their involvement from civilians matter
Please try to bring some unbiased and logical political thinkers like Pervaiz Hoodbhoy and Syed Muzammil. I think Aasim Sajjad Akhter is the only one saying the truth but it was a bit filtered. Military is ruling this country there is no doubt. And LT Gen Chishta says "Army is not only for borders, and also rejecting the constitution", This is completely nonsense. From the beginning, this country is only a source of revenue for Army and elite class of this country. Every Pakistani should accept it and do something for it.
Yay bakwas kar rahy hain sab The truth is something else
Sab gernaloo par lakh lanat loot kay lay gaye pura mulk politian aam dako orr srmy chief daakoo sardar😊
میںنے مشرّف ضیاء دور دیکھے ہیں - وو نسبتاً کہیں بہتر تھے
No voice
This old junk needs to be disposed off.
Pakistan Islam k liya ban tha . tm loogu ny islm se Bagawaat ke . iss liya Allah tala tm loogu ko Aps mai Laada rah hain Ye Allah tala ka Azaab hai tm loogu pe
اسلام مقمّل دین ہے- شرعی'ا نفس کریں سب درست ہو جاےگا فورن
ایک مکمل اسلامی نظام ہی واحد حل ہے۔ کب تک مغربی نظام کے ناکام تجربات ہوتے رہیں گے۔
Afghanistan mein ban gaya hai islami nizam why don’t you move over there
@@bilalbashir interesting you said that, just the other day we were watching a number of reports how things started to improve in Afghanistan and a few of us here in the UK plan to move to Afghanistan soon after our retirement.
What can be a better living milieu when things are decided under the aegis of Qur'an and Sunna in comparison to a country which is neither here nor there. May Allah open your eyes, ameen.
@@justicejustice9785 don’t wait for your retirement just surrender your British passport and move
@@bilalbashirinsha'Allah, and from there will watch your country in tatters as time goes by, as Bengalis brothers and sisters are watching you with utter amazement and with sigh of relief from their country.
pakistan main har masli ka hal islami nizam ilsami nizam ..ok let me ask you a question... hamare pyare 4 sahaba Hazrat Abu bakar, Umar , Ali or Usman kis waja se shahdeed howe or Hazrat Hassan, Hussain kis waja se shaheeed howe. kya ye masayal badshahi se link ni the??? har policitcal issue ko or social issue ko islam se na link karo .
har baat ko shariat or islam se jorna k ilawa koch soch lo.. kYa yaha read karni walai , or video banni wali sare non muslim hai . ? or ap aik wahid muslim hai
With due al respect if guys have guts make video on Army involvement in politics, accross the border smuggling, 16 december APS attacks lots of other topics i can give you if realy want shows us a real truth make videos on it otherwise, ap ka channel arealdy chal raha hai vo chlata rhai ga per zyda lamba nhi chla ga
Ahmed Bilal sitting here like He is talking sense and when KPK and Punjab assemblies were dissolved he was giving the similar statements about postponed the elections just like other establishment puppies. Sorry to say but your whole panel is full of shit. And don't talk about establishments real enemy. Which is by far the Great Imran Khan. Whether you like it or not, But in the end it's about slavery or freedom. Nothing else.
I think the third person from starting mispresented the "Federalism" agenda of Jinnah. Infact Jinnah had left very little vision for Pakistan's future constitution. He actually opposed the "provicism" and advocated One nation identity.
"If you build up yourself into a nation···. Give up this provincialism. Provincialism has been one of the curses; and so is sectionalism- Shia, Sunni, etc."
Public Address,Dacca 21 March 1948
"If we begin to think of ourselves as Punjabis, Sindhis, etc. first and Muslims and Pakistanis incidentally, then Pakistan is bound to disintegrate. Do not think that this is some abstruse proposition: our enemies are fully alive to its possibilities which I must warn you that they are already busy exploiting."
Radio Broadcast, Dacca, 28 March 1948
What a biased interviews and try to shape the narrative...FFFF U TCM ORIGINAL
Student unions disrupted education with 4 yrs degrees taking 6 , 7 yrs to complete and constant fighting including even firing in colleges and universities. Grades were then awarded on base of parties instead of merit