After the horrific results of Kraven, I can say that Columbia Pictures (which Sony Pictures owns) had the worst 100th anniversary ever this year! This may sound like a big statement, it’s worse then the 100th anniversaries of both Disney and Warner Bros from last year. This year made MGM’s 100th anniversary look good
-Campea: I hate multiversal movies. -Also Campea: my favourite films of all times are multiversal and the biggest hits in the genre are all multiversal.
Including the Spider-Verse movies amongst that other slop is like saying, “I know a very profitable restaurant that sells caviar and shit.” Well, sure, but imagine how profitable they would be if they cease serving shit.
I saw it today. And umm. First, its all subjective. But I personally found it just as bad as Madame Web. They are equal basically. Maybe Kraven does have a few scenes I didn't think we're terrible. But a few Madame Web scenes weren't either. Legitimately the first 8 minutes at the beginning may be the best of Kraven. Sheesh. Point is. They both are terrible.
I saw it this morning. I went in with the expectation that it would be a bad movie but I would probably enjoy it. Think of it as a 2004 movie that would air on TBS on a Saturday. From that angle, it's pretty decent lol
I don't understand why Sony doesn't create their own Spiderman universe with Miles Morales. They can let Marvel make all the Peter Parker Spiderman movies they want and collect the checks while they make their own Spiderman: Miles Morales universe. Miles is a very well known Spidey variant at this point. I can't imagine they couldn't create some great films if they get the same writers as the animated films.
Cavil is such obvious 90s NERD! Lol..i love that the last few roles he has taken are all presumably IPs that cavil loved as a kid and still loves now..warhammer,voltron, witcher (to a lesser extent), even superman for that matter lol..bro is and always has been a straght up nerd! (which i mean in the best most respectful way). This a assuming cavil has probably been offered MANY differing types of roles since "justice league" and he has ONLY acctepted a handful of projects 90% of which were straght "nerd IPs" lol. Also the fact he was willing to bail on "the witcher" out of "principle" because he thought they were fucking up the story says ALOT!! Especially at what felt like the final season anyways, it wouldnt have been nothing for cavil to finish out the series, take that fat netflix check n go about his life..however he found the direction of the witcher was gonna be disrespectful to the sourse material, bro just told them "yall can make this terrible bullshit with thor jr". Lol.
I liked Kraven more than Madam Web and Morbius.....that's not saying much though. It's mostly because I love ATJ 😂 All 3 of these suck haha Side note....did they just rerecord all of Arianas dialogue in post because her mouth didnt match the words 90% of the time 😂
LG has been slowly reducing their portfolio. And Blu ray players sales aren’t as big an indicator as you think. Yes it’s less and it’s going to be less. Because its user base is already equipped with players but I think the format itself will be fine. It’s gonna be a lot more niche than it once was but there will always be people willing to pay more for the quality and the ability to be able to watch something forever.
I would urge my international friends to watch Animal 2023 its a Hindi family crime drama , brilliant performances,lots of violence and it’s gonna make you cry
Total success/failure of an undertaking is always based on an aggregate. You're talking like we're averaging films over the last 50 years. We're literally talking about the Sony Spider-Verse films. The 7 films in the last 6 years and only those. The results are the results.
From Sony perspective overall profit means more than singular flops. As John pointed out - they are VERY good with keeping their budgets tight. Hell, even Spider-verse movies were CHEAPER in production than Pixars Lightyear or Disneys Strange Worlds. Truth is Sony is NOT as keen on quality as Marvel under Feige command. They want keep the rights on as many charactersd as they can. Although they cannot keep this way long-term without risk of burning the audience by making flop to mediocre one by one.
Yes as a totally they are in profit, but you didn’t mention the brand damage these bad movies are doing. Marvel went thru the same thing. Look how disappointed fans got when their quality dropped. Yes they do make money but you can do brand damage by releasing horrible movies. So yes, more Spiderverse and Venom movies will do well but outside of these two off-Spiderman titles, they are hurting their brand, profit or not. Look at it this way. If you DON’T waste money on these crappy movies, then your profit will stay higher. The more money you lose on these movies the lower their profit gets. And that’s bad business.
John, adding the Beyond the Spider verse stuff to all those other movies to get a profit total is just laughable. Everything they have done outside of animation and venom has lost money.
So you mean 2 of out 7. That's your definition of "everything". That's like saying "Everything that they've done that wasn't a success was a failure". Well duh.
every good Director has a Bad Day in the Office, so I guess this was JC's Bad Day! haven't seen it yet, watching it, along with LORT: WOR & the Daniel craig film Queer on Sunday (so at least if I dislike Kraven, at least I got 2 others to back on), heck, I saw and disliked Venom: The Last Dance, but thankfully after I saw Anora, which was far better
I saw Kraven today. Its basically just as bad as Madame Web. So, yeah. Its bad. I may have liked Web more. Because I could at least look at pretty people. Ha. I am hyped for CinemaCon. Its my favorite yearly event I do with my family. As they/I own a local theater. Edit: It hit me. An analogy of sorts. Kraven seems like it was written by those people on the internet who cry about how they could write better and think its easy. When in reality, youd get something like Kraven. John is right. Its like it was written by what a 8th grader would think is cool and write.
Saying Kraven is one of the worst films ever made is arguably one of the worst movie opinions of all time, or you haven't seen enough movies. It's not a masterpiece but there are so many horrible worse movies out there.
Sonyverse.Only until people stop going on opening weekend hoping it will be good. Then when we see the reviews no one goes and they are no longer profitable. The majority showing up are fans hoping it will be good. Sure keep doing the spiderverse and what works. But you are horrible at developing live action Spider-Man.
I’m planning on seeing sonic 3 next week Kris also disagree with campea on animation styles today there not cheap I like loud houses style Cuase it resembles peanuts comics
Perhaps, if Marvel HADN'T sold Spider-man rights to Sony, Marvel would have folded before ever creating their own movie studio. So if that changed, we may never have gotten the MCU.
Wow,why the hate? She is a multi talented actress,singer and has many high profile nominations and wins,so what if she makes a stupid comment on politics, who doesn't these days.
@@Atomic_Brunettemost likely cause they disagree with her political/social views (that basic human rights are most important and that tr*mp and his supporters are the actual worst).most people who dislike her are probably just not great people
After the horrific results of Kraven, I can say that Columbia Pictures (which Sony Pictures owns) had the worst 100th anniversary ever this year! This may sound like a big statement, it’s worse then the 100th anniversaries of both Disney and Warner Bros from last year. This year made MGM’s 100th anniversary look good
Well, I loved “The Garfield Movie”. It was cute and funny in my opinion. But true, it was a horrible anniversary for the studio.
@ yeah that was fun. It did well for itself at the box office too
-Campea: I hate multiversal movies.
-Also Campea: my favourite films of all times are multiversal and the biggest hits in the genre are all multiversal.
48:33 Here is the highlight of the day. Thanks for the laugh, John. Couldn’t breath from laughing so hard lmao
Including the Spider-Verse movies amongst that other slop is like saying, “I know a very profitable restaurant that sells caviar and shit.” Well, sure, but imagine how profitable they would be if they cease serving shit.
No way Kraven is worse than Madame Web lol
It's absolutely not worse than Madame Web.
It’s close. I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s worse. But the fact that it’s a conversation should speak volumes.
It’s close but nah, madame web is worse IMO
It’s not. It’s not very great but madame web is worse
I saw it today. And umm. First, its all subjective. But I personally found it just as bad as Madame Web. They are equal basically. Maybe Kraven does have a few scenes I didn't think we're terrible. But a few Madame Web scenes weren't either. Legitimately the first 8 minutes at the beginning may be the best of Kraven.
Sheesh. Point is. They both are terrible.
I saw it this morning. I went in with the expectation that it would be a bad movie but I would probably enjoy it. Think of it as a 2004 movie that would air on TBS on a Saturday. From that angle, it's pretty decent lol
You're right, it's just a 2000 super hero movie
Idk how you guys didnt watch the trailer and, immediately notice how its going to be trash
I havent seen him this angry since Transporter Refuled, I gotta see this now 😂
Sony owns zero gaming rights. They all belong to Marvel, Disney. Marvel licensed out to game developers.
Sony literally made a spiderman game
Sony….the game company…?
@@SuperHippo95 After Marvel gave them the exclusive license to do so. Just like they're doing with Wolverine.
“Alexa, play Mufasa Soundtrack” Released today……will be on repeat all weekend!! 😂
Amazon MGM going to Cinemacon should lead to some sort of James Bind announcement; it probably won't, and it would be disappointing, but maybe.....
Bond would be announced at its own press conference probably.
I don't understand why Sony doesn't create their own Spiderman universe with Miles Morales. They can let Marvel make all the Peter Parker Spiderman movies they want and collect the checks while they make their own Spiderman: Miles Morales universe. Miles is a very well known Spidey variant at this point. I can't imagine they couldn't create some great films if they get the same writers as the animated films.
Maybe marvel has plans for Miles and they're waiting to cash in on that just like they are with toms spiderman
In Aaron Taylor Johnson's Quick Silver's voice You didn't see that coming. (As far as bad Kraven was)
John was so angry that he actually got Ricky ticky tackys name right 😂😂😂
No surprise since all the Sonyverse movies suck ass
Question about the tarot card scene in Kraven. Did she play the Tower card first? If so that may have been blocking the wind!
I felt John's Pain.
Cavil is such obvious 90s NERD! Lol..i love that the last few roles he has taken are all presumably IPs that cavil loved as a kid and still loves now..warhammer,voltron, witcher (to a lesser extent), even superman for that matter lol..bro is and always has been a straght up nerd! (which i mean in the best most respectful way). This a assuming cavil has probably been offered MANY differing types of roles since "justice league" and he has ONLY acctepted a handful of projects 90% of which were straght "nerd IPs" lol. Also the fact he was willing to bail on "the witcher" out of "principle" because he thought they were fucking up the story says ALOT!! Especially at what felt like the final season anyways, it wouldnt have been nothing for cavil to finish out the series, take that fat netflix check n go about his life..however he found the direction of the witcher was gonna be disrespectful to the sourse material, bro just told them "yall can make this terrible bullshit with thor jr". Lol.
I liked Kraven more than Madam Web and Morbius.....that's not saying much though. It's mostly because I love ATJ 😂
All 3 of these suck haha
Side note....did they just rerecord all of Arianas dialogue in post because her mouth didnt match the words 90% of the time 😂
LG has been slowly reducing their portfolio. And Blu ray players sales aren’t as big an indicator as you think. Yes it’s less and it’s going to be less. Because its user base is already equipped with players but I think the format itself will be fine. It’s gonna be a lot more niche than it once was but there will always be people willing to pay more for the quality and the ability to be able to watch something forever.
But you said that about Madame Web, John.
I couldnt find 28days later.. i can find the sequel 28 weeks on hulu.. but i had to go through a vpn for 28 days later.
I would urge my international friends to watch Animal 2023 its a Hindi family crime drama , brilliant performances,lots of violence and it’s gonna make you cry
Me: Going to see Kraven
Zendaya (MJ): Expect disappointment and you will not be disappointed.
1:43:33
So on rotten tomatoes. The 🍅 meter is 15%, but the popcorn 🍿 meter is 70%. I guess audiences want and like garbage? or are they in denial?
57:00 it's kraven time😅😅😅
Dear John, if you aggregate movies, they are always profitable. It seems like a talking point to reverse the narrative.
Total success/failure of an undertaking is always based on an aggregate. You're talking like we're averaging films over the last 50 years. We're literally talking about the Sony Spider-Verse films. The 7 films in the last 6 years and only those. The results are the results.
From Sony perspective overall profit means more than singular flops. As John pointed out - they are VERY good with keeping their budgets tight. Hell, even Spider-verse movies were CHEAPER in production than Pixars Lightyear or Disneys Strange Worlds.
Truth is Sony is NOT as keen on quality as Marvel under Feige command. They want keep the rights on as many charactersd as they can. Although they cannot keep this way long-term without risk of burning the audience by making flop to mediocre one by one.
they did the same with the swinging scenes in the original spiderman animated series. back in the merry marvel marching society days. :)
Yes as a totally they are in profit, but you didn’t mention the brand damage these bad movies are doing. Marvel went thru the same thing. Look how disappointed fans got when their quality dropped. Yes they do make money but you can do brand damage by releasing horrible movies. So yes, more Spiderverse and Venom movies will do well but outside of these two off-Spiderman titles, they are hurting their brand, profit or not. Look at it this way. If you DON’T waste money on these crappy movies, then your profit will stay higher. The more money you lose on these movies the lower their profit gets. And that’s bad business.
Hope for a Madame Web 2
John, adding the Beyond the Spider verse stuff to all those other movies to get a profit total is just laughable. Everything they have done outside of animation and venom has lost money.
So you mean 2 of out 7. That's your definition of "everything". That's like saying "Everything that they've done that wasn't a success was a failure". Well duh.
every good Director has a Bad Day in the Office, so I guess this was JC's Bad Day!
haven't seen it yet, watching it, along with LORT: WOR & the Daniel craig film Queer on Sunday (so at least if I dislike Kraven, at least I got 2 others to back on), heck, I saw and disliked Venom: The Last Dance, but thankfully after I saw Anora, which was far better
Is Henry Cavill going to be old Keith? Weird
1:00:30 yooooo I say it before I’ll say again this review is tie with madam web review omg 😂😂😂
i remember rocket robinhood
Spider-Gwen live action, just don't make her a girl boss
Sony values its Marvel IP, I donnu why we keep talking about this.
I saw Kraven today. Its basically just as bad as Madame Web. So, yeah. Its bad. I may have liked Web more. Because I could at least look at pretty people. Ha.
I am hyped for CinemaCon. Its my favorite yearly event I do with my family. As they/I own a local theater.
Edit: It hit me. An analogy of sorts. Kraven seems like it was written by those people on the internet who cry about how they could write better and think its easy. When in reality, youd get something like Kraven. John is right. Its like it was written by what a 8th grader would think is cool and write.
I actually thought it was the best out of the Sony marvel movies lol
Saying Kraven is one of the worst films ever made is arguably one of the worst movie opinions of all time, or you haven't seen enough movies.
It's not a masterpiece but there are so many horrible worse movies out there.
Its ok... ATJ is hot anyway😂... and paid well?..
I’m going to see kraven the hunter and see if is good
Sonyverse.Only until people stop going on opening weekend hoping it will be good. Then when we see the reviews no one goes and they are no longer profitable. The majority showing up are fans hoping it will be good. Sure keep doing the spiderverse and what works. But you are horrible at developing live action Spider-Man.
I’m planning on seeing sonic 3 next week Kris also disagree with campea on animation styles today there not cheap I like loud houses style Cuase it resembles peanuts comics
Perhaps, if Marvel HADN'T sold Spider-man rights to Sony, Marvel would have folded before ever creating their own movie studio. So if that changed, we may never have gotten the MCU.
I have tickets for Kraven for tomorrow and you never put up a spoiler warning because of your hate for the movie... Geez Thank You John
Nothing can be worse than any movie that features Rachel Zegler.
hunger games ballad of songbirds and snakes was literally excellent. you’re just a hater lmao
Spielberg's West Side Story was great
I really don’t understand why people hate on her lol she lives rent free in y’all’s minds
Wow,why the hate? She is a multi talented actress,singer and has many high profile nominations and wins,so what if she makes a stupid comment on politics, who doesn't these days.
@@Atomic_Brunettemost likely cause they disagree with her political/social views (that basic human rights are most important and that tr*mp and his supporters are the actual worst).most people who dislike her are probably just not great people
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