Is The KHL Better For Ivan Demidov This Season? | The Sick Podcast with Tony Marinaro July 24 2024
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- On this episode of The Sick Podcast, Craig Button joins Tony Marinaro to discuss the controversial hiring of Stan Bowman as the newest GM of the Edmonton Oilers, Matvei Michkov officially landed in Philly, should Demidov be next to follow, an interesting comparable for Pascal Vincent and much more!
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Montreal never said that they were concerned that he would not come over. They never commented on him. Brobov goes to Russia and, as we know, has good connections with SKA (who owns Michkov rights). I think that Brobov knew that this guy has issues.
So agree. The media cycles around a theory and then makes it sound like it came from the decision makers. They have no more information now then they had then. Should be a closed topic. But I'm sure we will have several more episodes about we should have picked Michkov as he picks up points.
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Goat. Thank you.
Almost crashed my car trying to skip this godawful intro song, Thanks a lot Tony!
I love Tony, but i cant listen to his podcast anymore because of this song. i fell he thinks his audience are morons. maybe you all are.
asking Craig Button about hockey, is like asking Trudeau about economics.
They can't load Demidov to another team because it's the last year of his contract. SKA or Montreal/Laval...
They can make him play in their VHL farm club , no?
@@Débribu Yes, to their own VHL team, the ska-neva. He just can't be loaned to another franchise. Must stay with SKA organisation.
@@rich.jerkov Makes sense, thank you. I didn't know they could not loan a player on his last contract year.
Lmfao they spent MAYBE 5 mins talking about Demidov 😂
ah yes the Tony show, 15 mins of him talking in circles to the same 4 guests and 3 minutes of responses. Honestly don't undrestand the appeal, he's awful
Well, Craig is right but he is also wrong. He's right about the report. People should read it. But he is wrong in thinking that people would understand it and be reasonable. You can lead a horse to water...
Pascal Vincent was a fantastic Q coach with the Cape Breton Eagles. Obviously, the Q is not the NHL or AHL. But my point being is he is good with younger player . The situation he was put in with Columbus was not easy.
The red flags around Michkov weren’t exclusively about his nationality. The suspicious death of his father, the 3 year contract at the time meant you can’t control his development at a crucial age. And last but not least his rumoured violent behaviour towards teammates.
He's also a defensive liability, he's not a big guy at 5'9-5'10 and around 175 lbs and i don't know about him being violent but there is enough smoke about an attitude problem (wich might not be true) and the fact that he made it difficult and/or unpleasant for many teams to meet with him before the draft didn't help what so ever. I think overall Montreal is better off with Reinbacher and Demidov if the objective is the Stanley cup even if Michkov ends up cracking 100pts
@@amadeussmith693- Connor Bedard and Patrick Kane are 5'10 (I guess by the time he takes the ice, Hab fan will say he's 5'5 and 125 lbs and Demidov will be 6'5 and 240 lbs and a defensive forward like Bob Gainey circa 1978 with offensive skill of Guy Lafleur circa 1977.
Violent tendencies? I didn't hear about that and certainly not this past season. Hughes likely made an error in passing over the guy. THN ranked Michkov as the #1 player outside the NHL.
How is what happened to his dad a red flag about him? But Hage is the story of the decade lol you’re a dumb person
@@rgood1204you done crying yet? Lol
They can’t loan him out to another KHL team as he only has 1 year left on his deal in the KHL. Michkov was able to get loaned to Sochi as he had more than one year left on his deal.
please get rid of the intro music! you have good content, but make it about the content not 5 mins of annoying noise . BTW enough about Babcock . Lets talk about the bright future of our team not a despicable man who is at home having a drink laughing because he thinks he still relevant . Please I am trying to forget that waist of Oxygen .
In addition Stan Bowman has never built a team. In Chicago Dale Tallon put the team on paper and when Scotty Bowman was President or special advisor they fired Tallon and gave the job to his son Stan Bowman. He had his name on a stanley cup in which he did nothing. Now he inherits a team that went to the finals and has an opportunity to put his name on Lord Stanley again AFTER being part of a scandal. Yet no one says anything. The world is crazy. What's wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it. Its wrong. I feel terrible for the Sheldon Kennedy's, Fleury , Kyle Beach, where these people have to live with this nightmare and people like Stan Bowman get reinstated and promoted? With all due to respect Mr. Button whatever is on the report who cares! he is guilty. Juts like Hockey Canada and their own scandal of hiding things in which their players has sexual assaults. Keeping people like this around shows there are different laws for everyone. To add he demolished the Hawks and he will do the same to the oilers. The Oilers is a shame is not a good organization. the NHL is a company where evil lives and good is dead. How does a parent feel if their son is playing Stan now? stan is not okay. he is a BUM. POINT FINALE.
With Craig Button saying "Don't do it!", Mike Babcock's door back into NHL is closed!
I think one more GM will. Winnipeg? If they flat-line out of the gate, 2 -17 or halfway with 10 wins? Chevy would be feeling the heat 🥵
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Hi Tony, Craig,
When things happen to youth
Elderly in general anyone, keep in mind some crimes, you cannot
Forgive. Stan headed that entire
Situation.
Not good for hockey and those affected 😢
The Edmonton players led by Mcdavid and Draistl should stand up as GOOD people since a colleague of theirs who was in the NHL in Beach to state we wont play for this General Manager. Good people stand up and act .. It seems everyone complains but actually does nothing. When good people sit on the sidelines and do not act bad things happen. This person was the leader in covering everything up. The funny thing is on how dumb Stan Bowman is that he could have been a hero. Instead he lied and ended up being a bum. He could have gone public, fired that person, seek help, not have other people join in the silence. Helped Beach out from A-Z.. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTION OF GOOD. Even if he had to resign for the better good. John Davidson and Jeff Gorton made a cry publicly of what happened to Panarin. with just cause. The league punished them and the team fired them. thats normal? Davidson and Gorton showed integrity, respect, and stood up. they got rewarded by getting fired and Stan Bowman gets the chair of to a stanley cup contender?. Hockey Canada lied and hid things.. anything happen? nope. All i can see is NO ONE CARES ABOUT ANYTHING. SO PEOPLE all the screaming you do and COMPLAINING you do wont change BECAUSE NO ONE DOES ANYTHING. it starts with one person to stand up and scream and joined by others. here we go to socila media cry and complain and the next day were at the stadium. thats whats sick. right now the stars of the team should not accept Stan. would edmonton really trade mcdavid over Stan? seriously?
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already knew about the knee injury couple days ago
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So, suppose the Habs drafted Mitchkov? Imagine having the 2/3 of the KLM line? CCCP Red Army ♥️
no they needed a 2nd pairing stay at home dman apparently. Good job Kent, you tard
The NHL simply doesn’t get it…. We always say that the victim has to live with it for their entire life, yet the people at fault get a second chance… Disgusted with the NHL reinstating Bowman and I won’t be watching or supporting the Oilers anymore.
He ain't ready for the NHL yet
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May be Demidov is injured.
Anyway its not even sure that 2024 2025 season will get completed lol
What is it you mean by that? The vast majority of all seasons are completed
@@MrDmitch88 Economy crash coming.. No one is sure when but US dollard is about to get rip...
It’s Kyle not Chris.
Why are will still talking about Michkov !!!!!! Enough with Babcock. he is done waste of time duhhhhhh.
Because Montreal should have drafted him? He outplayed Bedard and Wright and was MVP of the tournament they competed in and we will see if they made the correct decision or they (and Reinbacher) will get the smoke.
@@rgood1204wahhhh MTL didn’t do this wahhhh bro you aren’t a habs fan quit crying all over the page lol, we don’t care what leaf fans think lol
@@MrDmitch88 - Calm down Cletus. Shouldn't be back at the Gazette with that "leafs fan" stuff? That said Auston Matthews is better than any Hab since Guy Lafleur- first round exits or not. When was the last 69 goal scorer Montreal put on the ice?
While I wanted Mitchkov it probably meant we wouldn’t have gotten Demidov. I don’t think the teams drafting before us would let us have both of them. I also think we got the better team player and will have a more complete game but think Mitchkov will get more pts. How it translates to end result if Mitchkov defensive lapses causes goal’s against then all equals up.
@@rgood1204I won’t argue with that my friend. I actually really like Matthews and would give anything to see him in the red white and blue. He probably has the best release the game has ever seen. Without question.
With that said. Even when it comes to McDavid, I think it’s well proven it takes 4 lines of big bodies that can play night in and night out and neither the habs or the leafs have that.
Demidov was invited to the Dev camp but he didnt go due to his injury. It has been confirmed by his agent. Please, check your facts :)
Another thing is that Demidov cannot be loaned like Michkov because he does not have 2 more years on his contract.
It was a catastrophic error to pass on Michkov. Imagine if we had Michkov and Demidov on the same line? We just kissed the Stanley Cup goodbye...😭
MTL has a lot of small players. Reinbacher is a tall piayer and a long term pick.
@@videopyc- Unfortunately none of their smaller players are as talented as him. They could easily have moved some of them if they have value.
@@videopyc Reinbacker will be a bonified David Savard. A very good shut down defenseman. Michkov is a Pavel Bure/Ovechkin caliber player. Guess who is more valuable?
Time will tell.
"Catastrophic" says the clueless drama queen who has never played hockey or any team sports in his life
If a 5th overall doesn’t play the year after their draft year that’s a behind schedule not normal
Most top10 picks usually takes one to 2 years after their drafts to make it to the NHL unless they are "special / more physically mature" players...especially for european players which also need to learn the game on a smaller ice rink. It never hurts to take more time when dealing with prospects !!!
It all depends on the position A 5th overall goalie is not going straight to the NHL. Defense takes an average of 2-3 years to develop under normal circumstances.
Believe the victim? I don’t think so Believe Amber heard?