@@LLMGuide Well yeah but junior development as well, look at the roosters? They keep the same roster of big name players for decades, Penrith keep developing these kids it’s good
Wtf are you on about? All I saw was Penrith total control. They were in cruise mode the entire second half while Cronulla redlined just to keep their heads above water.
The part where Ivan got emotional talking about how proud he was of Nathan was so good. Bloke deserves to be among the best coaches of all time and Nathan is getting up there in terms of all time players
The NRL has the most inconsistent refereeing out of any world sport. When coaches , players , commentators and fans all agree that it’s a bad decision just shows how out of tune the law makers are. Every season brings more rules changes and even more inconsistency in how they are interpreted.
@@westsidejatt Roosters are consistently the most penalised team in the comp. Don’t know what everyone whinges about. Any “bias” goes against the Roosters
Thurston wasnt actually great, happend to be the best at the cowboys as the rest were terrible... he got made to look good, Good kicker... otherwise his actual stats are not good. especially his errors.
@@tonyhadenough2574 did you watch the 2023 GF? Go watch it again and see what cleary did all on his own. He won that GF and the team celebrated with him.
I can only dream about how different the warriors last 12-13 years might have been had they been able to not just hold onto Ivan Cleary as coach but have Nathan there as well…
I suppose, Taylan May served his suspension the next year, for the fans. So I then suppose, Nelson Asofa-Solomona should serve his next year, for the fans.
@ColoMUFC10 I understand your point but the east's front rower who got rubbed out a origin player all the pencil peckers on TV where talking about Nelson how about speaking about the protocols of the concussed player intergrity of the game must be upheld this week
@@CraigHopwood your reply makes no sense. Enjoy the panthers while you're swallowing on em. Taylan May is a criminal who was allowed to serve his suspension the next week because hes a penriff player
@@ColoMUFC10 mate I am not talking about may I am talking about the appeal the media build the game right east's lose a player ok Bellamy erred Nelson should have started on the bench it only gives the nrl more ammo to ban the kick off can't you see that mate if Lindsay was on the field the might have been closer
Anyway I was born in parra but a penrith junior o am a parra man oh buy the way it will be my 19th grand final I have watch for parra and Penrith mate I have seen every origin and also in 77 old Tommy had a sport store in blacktown I can motivate a team belive me
There is no consistency within the refs group Look at last night's game when the storm should have been down another player with the professional foul all year it's been a 10 in bin situation but not given last night
It's just ruining the game. Bunker watches an incident over & over again, in slow motion & still gets it wrong. Been happening all season & bunker needs to go.
Cant believe how on a regular basis you see wrong decisions being made. Ruling that can affect the results of the score. In finals. Why change the rules of the game all the time. There is an old saying if it is not broken don’t touch it. Nathan is a credit to Penrith and his Dad Ivan is a great Coach and is also a Credit to Penrith. Another Grand final win coming up
I predict next next weeks GF will be an all time classic,but Storm will do enough,Storm will absolutely blitzkreig their big fellas on both sides of the ruck,,it’s going to lightning attacks all night!😎
No one said this was the right call, it happens to all teams, some of which the Panthers have one finals games from on this exact play, yet this obstruction ( as wrong as a call as it was ) didnt cost penrith the win as the same play done to Penriths opponents in a 2021 finals game ( from memory ) did
Your playing against the Refs team next eeek Ivan, anxiety is justified, Storm will be allowed to run decoys your team wont, not to mention them being allowed to stand offside by 3m while defending, your up against 14, goodluck!!!
Yeah the shoulder is fine lol, a little wave means to try to prove its fine means nothing, you can see there's a large restriction in movement he's been warned by medical staff as reported, that the shoulder is just hanging in, l hope he gets through next week, just needle and strap it to the hilt, she'll be right 😉. Let's see if Ivan's adjudication comment gives the Panthers the rub of the green as it has previously
@@Username-yt4mhthat’s what everyone says every year watch Cleary put on master class we got all the motivation players leaving to get 4 in a row and that round when storm tryed to injury him for the season when they wrap Cleary arm up Cleary going to take it personal my opinion I’m a cowboys supporter yeah storm are the favourites but Cleary coming for vegence
This guy used a trainer to stop a game in the finals 3 years ago to beat Parra. Clearly cheating, they fined them and immediately changed the rules so no one could try that again. I don’t care what this man has to say about the rules.
He's ( Ivan Cleary ) an ex reff himself, I remember last time he made a comment such as this he got a rub of the green in his teams game the following week
Hahaahha, yeah it's funny how clowns responding to comments like this can reply as they do when their team has more decisions go their way than most teams in the league and still complain, having a half back out there risking his health and major shoulder injuries is a clown move
@jakeg9818 so it's fine for them to do it to other teams and get away with it in your opinion, you should deal with facts then opinion, rather than calling people stating facts, clowns lol
@@waynemifsud3587 seems like you are the one having issues with facts clown. All coaches can say whatever they like and get decisions go there teams way next week. Wayne Bennett is a prime example. You are a biased clown, end of story lol.
A coach notorious for block and decoy plays whining about being penalised for block/ decoy play. Stop coaching it then Ivan.. its ugly and sucks for the game.
everyone runs bocks and decoy plays lol the issue isn’t with the play it’s with the defensive decision to commit to the play. Talakai clearly holds his line to anticipate the runner, he literally falls for the decoy but because he threw his arms up, he was taken out ? 😂😂😂😂 regardless if you hate Ivan or Penrith, it was a terrible call.
@@anthonyc4812 9 times out of 10 it’s a penalty but every commentator and non biased fan knew it wasnt a penalty lol running the outside shoulder doesn’t negate the defenders decision to commit to the lead runner. Talakai commits to the runner which causes the overlap, that’s a totally legal play. Roosters and melbourne scored off identical plays.
@@tmac515 Thompson, Freddie, Gus and Joey. You're still taking notice of them ? Ref hating, Bunker hating and riddled with bias' Outside shoulder ..blocking pathway to ball runner. Coaching failure. That's why Ivan is upset.
But you can have Liam Martin run straight at Dejan Asi, knock him over and score off a blatant obstruction in that play to score the winning try against the Eels in their last meeting this year hey
Ivan complaining about refereeing despite getting more than double the penalties and more than double the six agains. Come on Ivan, just want the trophy given to you on a plate? 😂
Wow, sharks had twice the pens. 2 shark players should have been in the bin. The Penrith no try was plain wrong. The pen for head high by kenny when the player slipped over was so wrong. If Klein refs next week then Storm will win. NRL needs to get rid of some of these refs.
Gotta give credit to paul alamoti big shoes to fill when critta left, he was outstanding tonight
Its the system. Makes great players out of good ones.
@@LLMGuide
Well yeah but junior development as well, look at the roosters? They keep the same roster of big name players for decades, Penrith keep developing these kids it’s good
yeh definetly
@@LLMGuide100% penrith is all homegrown talent and hard work
@@michaelbuettner1487 agreed 👍
he's absolutely right on the wrong ref call. almost let sharks back in the game
Right on!
What are Sharks? Ohh you mean drarg cheating Mullets
Ashley Klein tried his best unfortunately wasn't enough against this Panthers Juggernaut
Wtf are you on about? All I saw was Penrith total control. They were in cruise mode the entire second half while Cronulla redlined just to keep their heads above water.
@@joel8056 Penrith totally dominated and yes they were only in second gear
The part where Ivan got emotional talking about how proud he was of Nathan was so good. Bloke deserves to be among the best coaches of all time and Nathan is getting up there in terms of all time players
Too true. Cleary is the new Thurston.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034needs to do it rep level footy
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 your kidding? thurston only wished he couldve been 1/5th as good as cleary..... lmao
What a game, let's go Cleary's!
The NRL has the most inconsistent refereeing out of any world sport. When coaches , players , commentators and fans all agree that it’s a bad decision just shows how out of tune the law makers are. Every season brings more rules changes and even more inconsistency in how they are interpreted.
Consistency is all we ask for, don't care what the rules are so long as the decisions are consistent.
Exactly why my entire family now prefers AFL. The refs are never involved in the game. They’ve ripped the game to pieces. It’s gross
Disagree ..it’s consistent..when it comes to the Roosters.. consistently biased😂
@@westsidejatt Roosters are consistently the most penalised team in the comp. Don’t know what everyone whinges about. Any “bias” goes against the Roosters
@@Username-yt4mh good way to put it. Ripped the game to pieces.
Cleary is iconic
Cleary is one best Halves to ever play the game. I’m Broncos supporter and I haven’t seen some as good as Nathan since Thurston.
Thurston wasnt actually great, happend to be the best at the cowboys as the rest were terrible... he got made to look good,
Good kicker...
otherwise his actual stats are not good. especially his errors.
@@MrSupermugen This is so true. He also happened to play for the great origin side with all superstars
Its the team that make Cleary look good, without them, he's nothing mate. He's not that good
@@tonyhadenough2574 did you watch the 2023 GF?
Go watch it again and see what cleary did all on his own. He won that GF and the team celebrated with him.
@King_Fi5h yeah I watched it, and no he did not win it on his own, the "Team " won that grandfinal, not just one person
One thing that is so great about the clearys is there humility... no big egos
Yes Chris Butler has been a joke all year either on the field or in the bunker, definitely should be sacked.
The officials still couldn’t get the Skarks into the GF 😂
Wasnt easy for Penrith they played against 15 and still won
Yep, hard to beat someone with a whistle and the other a seeing eye dog.
Full circle moment last team to win a GF other than Panthers since 2020.. Panthers vs Storm NRL GF!
Last team to win 4 straight was souths 67-71 ssfc before nrl days
Mr Klein for the GF? I seriously hope not, what happened to Mr Gee?
Storm look the best in form, Cleary gonna have to up his level again to compete
And we havnt seen that before in a grand final.😊
Penrith v 14, everyone has watched the bias towards Storm all year, not to mention the soft draw Melb received and the home adv all final
series
I can only dream about how different the warriors last 12-13 years might have been had they been able to not just hold onto Ivan Cleary as coach but have Nathan there as well…
This week Melbourne will try to free Nelson I hope the perpetrator does not come the victim
I suppose, Taylan May served his suspension the next year, for the fans. So I then suppose, Nelson Asofa-Solomona should serve his next year, for the fans.
@ColoMUFC10 I understand your point but the east's front rower who got rubbed out a origin player all the pencil peckers on TV where talking about Nelson how about speaking about the protocols of the concussed player intergrity of the game must be upheld this week
@@CraigHopwood your reply makes no sense. Enjoy the panthers while you're swallowing on em. Taylan May is a criminal who was allowed to serve his suspension the next week because hes a penriff player
@@ColoMUFC10 mate I am not talking about may I am talking about the appeal the media build the game right east's lose a player ok Bellamy erred Nelson should have started on the bench it only gives the nrl more ammo to ban the kick off can't you see that mate if Lindsay was on the field the might have been closer
Anyway I was born in parra but a penrith junior o am a parra man oh buy the way it will be my 19th grand final I have watch for parra and Penrith mate I have seen every origin and also in 77 old Tommy had a sport store in blacktown I can motivate a team belive me
The Bunker is a really unfunny joke!
Going to wrongly cost teams grand final wins after training their guts out for 11 months!
What about the late shot being no more than a penalty. Is the sin bin off limits in the finals?
Ye Telekai should of been sent of ..he new they were going to lose 😜
Nah i think penalty was fine
@@RayCee1 off limits when Penrith stand to gain
Melbourne is on a different level compared to the Sharks
There is no consistency within the refs group
Look at last night's game when the storm should have been down another player with the professional foul all year it's been a 10 in bin situation but not given last night
Don’t let this refereeing combination work at the grand finals
It's just ruining the game. Bunker watches an incident over & over again, in slow motion & still gets it wrong. Been happening all season & bunker needs to go.
2_nil against strm this year..third time lucky next week..congrats panthers 26_18
Low score this year, try last year when penrith belted storms by huge margins twice😂
They r Winning Penrith = 45 in gematria which is the code that script these sports. Penrith can win 4 in a row in their 5th consecutive GF
@Polonarob that was for 2 points, one was round 1, this is for silverware, riff by 20
Penrith will beat the Storm by 20 ....you just watch 🧐🤯
Cant believe how on a regular basis you see wrong decisions being made. Ruling that can affect the results of the score. In finals. Why change the rules of the game all the time. There is an old saying if it is not broken don’t touch it. Nathan is a credit to Penrith and his Dad Ivan is a great Coach and is also a Credit to Penrith. Another Grand final win coming up
This coach ,son combination is superperb. They are very humble ,no wonder 5 gf in a row aiming for 4 pt.
Talakai was clearly taken out by the decoy runner. The video ref got it right.
I predict next next weeks GF will be an all time classic,but Storm will do enough,Storm will absolutely blitzkreig their big fellas on both sides of the ruck,,it’s going to lightning attacks all night!😎
Shut up
No Nelson upfront. Hard to fill those shoes
Heard that last year brom boncs supporters and the year before by parra and the year before that
@@carokann4397 if there’s one thing the storm are best at , it’s filling big shoes 😎
@@BryanFarr-ee5uv and the year before that who won the GF ? …against the Penrith ?😎
In the old days that’s a penalty against the attacking team. Whatever happened to tackles without the ball?!!
No one said this was the right call, it happens to all teams, some of which the Panthers have one finals games from on this exact play, yet this obstruction ( as wrong as a call as it was ) didnt cost penrith the win as the same play done to Penriths opponents in a 2021 finals game ( from memory ) did
Respect for Melbourne storm boys
man these cleary's are geniuses
...Just shows how easily it is for the players to milk penalties and manipulate the game when the refs don't know the rules of the game !!!!
Your playing against the Refs team next eeek Ivan, anxiety is justified, Storm will be allowed to run decoys your team wont, not to mention them being allowed to stand offside by 3m while defending, your up against 14, goodluck!!!
FUCKING LOVE YOU IVAN
Pretty nervous for next week boys storm are just looking too dominant
Ya'll wouldn't shut up if Luai did it against someone
Listening to Ivan say GF’s are hard to make feels like a piss take at this point when he’s 6 deep.
The media ask some dumb questions
Klein needs to his decisions sent to the bunker too
Its Klein bloke has no clue
He didnt mention hynes no try and edwards bat back if sharks score they go back check if edwards is out
Yeah the shoulder is fine lol, a little wave means to try to prove its fine means nothing, you can see there's a large restriction in movement he's been warned by medical staff as reported, that the shoulder is just hanging in, l hope he gets through next week, just needle and strap it to the hilt, she'll be right 😉. Let's see if Ivan's adjudication comment gives the Panthers the rub of the green as it has previously
Panthers bit clunky,they really need to click against storm
They’ll lose miserably against storm
@@Username-yt4mhnah we won’t will see
Yeah, yesterday's performance, not Panther like, o/wise thanks boys for the win, looking forward to the 4peat. G❤ the Panthers.
@@Username-yt4mhGood. We come here after GF and see...Deal?
@@Username-yt4mhthat’s what everyone says every year watch Cleary put on master class we got all the motivation players leaving to get 4 in a row and that round when storm tryed to injury him for the season when they wrap Cleary arm up Cleary going to take it personal my opinion I’m a cowboys supporter yeah storm are the favourites but Cleary coming for vegence
Nathan Cleary one more game and he’ll be better than Andrew Johns? I’ll say it
Butler is a disgrace you can't have it all one way Ivan hope Melbourne win
Will see
This guy used a trainer to stop a game in the finals 3 years ago to beat Parra. Clearly cheating, they fined them and immediately changed the rules so no one could try that again. I don’t care what this man has to say about the rules.
He's ( Ivan Cleary ) an ex reff himself, I remember last time he made a comment such as this he got a rub of the green in his teams game the following week
Just another hater. Just embrace the greatness mate, you'll never witness this again.
It’s funny that clowns making comments like this would be blowing up too if it was there team.
Hahaahha, yeah it's funny how clowns responding to comments like this can reply as they do when their team has more decisions go their way than most teams in the league and still complain, having a half back out there risking his health and major shoulder injuries is a clown move
@jakeg9818 so it's fine for them to do it to other teams and get away with it in your opinion, you should deal with facts then opinion, rather than calling people stating facts, clowns lol
@@waynemifsud3587 seems like you are the one having issues with facts clown. All coaches can say whatever they like and get decisions go there teams way next week. Wayne Bennett is a prime example. You are a biased clown, end of story lol.
Fucking boring game , sharks never looked like winning should have just fourths it
A coach notorious for block and decoy plays whining about being penalised for block/ decoy play. Stop coaching it then Ivan.. its ugly and sucks for the game.
everyone runs bocks and decoy plays lol the issue isn’t with the play it’s with the defensive decision to commit to the play. Talakai clearly holds his line to anticipate the runner, he literally falls for the decoy but because he threw his arms up, he was taken out ? 😂😂😂😂
regardless if you hate Ivan or Penrith, it was a terrible call.
@@tmac515 9 times out of 10 penalty all year. Outside shoulder. He knows it. He coaches it's a grey area but still has a cry.
@@anthonyc4812 9 times out of 10 it’s a penalty but every commentator and non biased fan knew it wasnt a penalty lol running the outside shoulder doesn’t negate the defenders decision to commit to the lead runner. Talakai commits to the runner which causes the overlap, that’s a totally legal play.
Roosters and melbourne scored off identical plays.
@@tmac515 Thompson, Freddie, Gus and Joey. You're still taking notice of them ? Ref hating, Bunker hating and riddled with bias' Outside shoulder ..blocking pathway to ball runner. Coaching failure. That's why Ivan is upset.
@anthonyc4812 yet melbourne never gets called for it
Facebook Messenger and left me in real life and then we are going first thing I can I offer it said ur turtle Nath
Nrl should have a female as a referee for the grand finals game.
But you can have Liam Martin run straight at Dejan Asi, knock him over and score off a blatant obstruction in that play to score the winning try against the Eels in their last meeting this year hey
he got tripped, go to OPSM.
Still inside shoulder cry baby😂
Created the overlap by taking out a sliding defender regardles leading to a try, fact@@esetu9602
Youse are not wining anything next week storm to win ⚡️ 😂
Ivan complaining about refereeing despite getting more than double the penalties and more than double the six agains. Come on Ivan, just want the trophy given to you on a plate? 😂
Wtf are you talking about? 😂
Did you even watch the game?
No way, this bloke can’t even read basic stats right 😂
Wtf are you on about 😂
So for a fair game to happen the ref has to award the same amount of penalties to both teams
Wow, sharks had twice the pens. 2 shark players should have been in the bin. The Penrith no try was plain wrong. The pen for head high by kenny when the player slipped over was so wrong. If Klein refs next week then Storm will win. NRL needs to get rid of some of these refs.
If that call was against sharks I bet cleary wouldn’t be complaining. Coaches only complain when the call is against them.
Panthers get away with so much,through out this final series I have seen them not put a foot on the ball while playing the ball 20 times?
@@anthonydavis8045 where have you been? Has not been a foot placed on the ball in months, by any team 😂
Cleary could be Nicho hynes father
The Banker is Corrupted!
Accountants running the game ......
Can't trust banks
Not the Bunker but the bunkers.
Yes bro St George bank is currupt