Came for the Huey 2 but learned something new, bump in the night home defense optic illumination setting with a tac light. I just tried it as it's currently 1am and it's a great tip, Thanks.
Great video as usual. John can I tell you and your viewers my fix for rusting mounting screws on my HS 507c? Also, I needed bedding for the bottom of the RDS to prevent rain water seepage and debris intrusion from duty open-carry in tropical, rainy South Florida weather. I used BLUE Loctite initially. WAY overkill. For removal I needed to heat my whole optic with a heat gun to soften the Blue to remove such tiny , mounting screws. No good. Black oxide coating on screws works poorly....no good. The heads quickly rusted...badly. Solution: 1) PURPLE low strength Loctite specifically made for small screws 2) TEF GEL for bedding the RDS. Ordinarily I would use Loctite Blue or green 620. But that is for gas blocks or gas tubes or barrel extensions that rarely need to be removed. High heat from heat gun IS OK for situations like that(no electronics involved). Tef Gel is magic in a tube. I used this a LOT in my marine employment . I still use it on my car in some applications. And on my AR15 in specific applications. Just smear a thin even coat on all mounting surfaces. Wipe any excess off after tightening. Tef Gel WILL NOT SEEP! 3) SS screws! The screw heads are smaller but these still work perfectly for my HS507c in a dedicated RMR cut on my Brownells slide. Precise fit. SS screws and now BEDDED with Tef Gel. Loctite 555339 Threadlocker 222 Low Strength Tube, Purple, 6-ml $8.96 www.amazon.com/Loctite-555339-Purple-Strength-6-milliliter/dp/B0002KKTT0/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=purple+loctite&qid=1595351231&sr=8 ULTRA Tef-gel TG-01 www.amazon.com/Original-corrosion-eliminator-lubricant-8030014504009/dp/B01606TCAG/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-nc-drs1_0?cv_ct_cx=tef+gel&dchild=1&keywords=tef+gel&pd_rd_i=B01606TCAG&pd_rd_r=24ea3849-4ceb-48cf-b6c8-2decb225cb46&pd_rd_w=54rrY&pd_rd_wg=fMRx7&pf_rd_p=43f4b3f0-0b04-46ba-8a08-2e851d035e17&pf_rd_r=Y5ZAVWWAZWCFJNVT1T2S&psc=1&qid=1595351338&sr=1-1-f3947b35-9c59-4d7a-9603-b751e6eed25b 4-40 X 1/4" machine SCREW,Flat Head, Phillips, Stainless,4-40 X 1/4" www.amazon.com/dp/B013TL6GFY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details
@@spark1545 Do not be afraid to use the Tef Gel in other areas like automotive. I inject some Tef Gel into my rubber brake bleed caps. I am tired of all the rust on my bleeder screws on my Brembo Brakes on my E46 M3. It should keep my bleeder screws from rusting for years. Think of it as a thicker, stay in place, non-metallic never seize, and corrosion preventer.
@@MobileAura Even my expensive aftermarket tritium night sights from all major companies are Black Oxide coated. Black Oxide coat3ing for ANY gun part should be outlawed. Black Oxide seems to give metal the same protection as a Sharpie. I buy a little tool with fiberglass bristles to scrub the rust away. Working on a fix, because the rust always reappears. Maybe: VHT SP652 Satin Black Epoxy All Weather Paint Can - 11 oz.
@@deplorabledave1048 The only solution is to buy aluminum housing (scopes lowers etc) and titanium bcg with carbon fiber hand guards/buffer threads/castle nuts. Steel is terrible. I have a brand new PSA 1 month in already rusting at the castle but/stock area. 😵💫
Hey just picked up one of these to test out today. The one thing I’m really worried about is windage adjust is by moving the optic itself left and right. It doesn’t move the reticle. Seems like it will make it feel off center.
We will see. I will bury the windage and see if I really notice. My bet is that if it is so bad that you would notice it, you may need to check your barrel or upper.
I wanted to get one of these but got sick of waiting for the release. Went with the EXPS3 instead. If that doesn't work out I'll probably just go to an aimpoint. Still interested in your review though.
Eotech is better anyways. Vortex is cheap stuff. Don’t get me wrong, sounds harsh. I have a Razor Gen ii E 1-6, so I do like them. But it’s still cheap.
Racecar Johnny nothing wrong with it. It’s a tank! My ATACR 1-8 feels more of a true 1X than the razor though. I do not have perfect vision. But I can tell a big difference.
I thought the same thing. I was wondering why he was going to talk about the old Huey. But maybe it's the Vortex way of saying it is dependable, it'll take a beating and still operate.
I watch some of these optics review. I'd like to ask you and all the other subject matter expert. Why don't all of you get together and design THE optic that meets your criteria? Specs etc. I'm ex law enforcement eighteen years. Seventeen years in private security. I can tell you the depth of these videos go over the head of the average shooter. I've seen several videos for and against this optic. Regardless I'm going to buy one based upon my mission requirements.
Cheap junk usually has to add gimmicky crap to get people to buy it. Goes with just about any gadget, the lower the quality, usually the more “tricks” it has. Most likely, the people that buy made in China are the first to complain about not finding living wage jobs.
Hello, could somebody please tell me, what is that bench for the reloading press on the background? It is custom or I can buy the same somewhere? :) Thank you
If your not watching the NFL, MLB, or NBA, then make sure you don't gamble sports. Starve the NFL, MLB, and the NBA from all profits. Drop ESPN, stop tuning into your local sport stations. Do everything you can to send a clear message to professional athletes, that their fans make it possible for them to live like kings. Tired of them dividing our country, creating division where their isn't any. Speaking as though they are authority figures, when their nothing but athletes with barely a high school education.
Victor Poliashov battery life on Holosuns are much better. You get between 30,000 to 50,000 hours of batter life on continuous use on medium stetting. As opposed to this optic 1500 hours of battery life. That’s why Vortex and most reviewers don’t talk much about this.
@@xxfire07 And holosun are made in China, are LED, and are generally considered budget optics. Also, don't compare holographic sights to LED. They're not the same thing (at all) and have different attributes that are better for different situations. When you discard a holographic by saying "battery life is better on a holosun," you're basically saying "I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but I own a holosun so it must be better." It's not better. It (holosun) is different and works, generally speaking, better for a budget minded person who wants to have something close to (emphasis on 'close to') an aimpoint. That's all fine, no judgement there... Just try to do some research before you rip on something that you clearly don't know a lot about.
Timothy Martin First of all where in my comment did you read that I didn’t know that this was a holographic sight?? I’m waiting??? I said that the battery life sucks and that’s a fact. You say don’t compare this optic to a budget optic. Really??? I’m the consumer so I am going to compare because it’s my money. I will compare them because at any price point this doesn’t do for me what I want it to do. I would not buy this optic if it were $199. Why because the battery life sucks. That’s why. People compare Budget guns to Glocks all the time. Maybe you should go comment on thousands of videos comparing budget guns to Glocks and tell them they don’t know what they are talking about. I have 8 years on active duty and currently 20 years federal laws enforcement. The optic I purchased for my personal rifle was an Aimpoint because it’s what we use on our duty rifles. After buying Holosun I never looked back at Aimpoint. Oh did I mention The reticle sucks on that Vortex too. But I guess you will say I’m not allowed to say that either because it’s a holographic optic.
@@xxfire07 I see full well your argument. You dropped in solely to say "battery life sucks, and I bought a holosun and it works great so it's the best." That's about as helpful to the new buyer as a fudd can get, TBH. It provides little value and attempts to create one factor for superiority. It would have been more helpful to say, "the battery life is a lot shorter on these, so if that's your primary concern, it's not a great choice." Honestly, I don't really care whether you're in law enforcement or not. I don't know you. Just because you're in law enforcement doesn't necessarily mean you're good at your job. I certainly hope you are, but you saying it on here doesn't thrust you into trustworthiness. I've seen lifetime LEO's who are atrocious at their jobs. Again, not saying that's you, but it's prevalent. I've been shooting and training for about 30 years and have experience with all the different optics (trijicon, aimpoint, holosun, sig, eotech, vortex, Leupold... And on...), so can we put the credentialing aside and talk facts? After all of those optics, I prefer eotech for what I do. Does that mean you're wrong and I'm right? No. You made a choice on your optic, it works really well for you, and that's great. They're simply two different optics with different operating systems. Each has its pros and cons and each is substantially better than the other in different attributes. It's a well known fact that these have a substantially shorter battery life, because it runs on lasers and not LED. It also has absolute zero parallax error (unlike aimpoint or holosun), magnifies like a FFP without enlarging the center dot, has clearer glass, a wider field of view, and is slightly faster for target acquisition. Those are facts. If you need battery life to be in the years on a patrol rifle, it's definitely not the optic for you. Really long battery life doesn't matter to everyone. If you want lightest, smallest footprint on the weapon, it's not your optic. If you want fastest optic that magnifies really well, holosun/aimpoint aren't your optics. That's great that you don't like the reticle, millions of people do like eotech style reticles, and they're not wrong for that preference. Anyway, have a nice day.
thanks
I’ve heard other reviews on this one. So I bought 2. 1 for my AR full size, and 1 for my AR pistol. Ready to take them to the range tomorrow.
So how did they work out❓
Could we get an update review?
Really good job on the initial review, Great Audio, Video and Notes.
Came for the Huey 2 but learned something new, bump in the night home defense optic illumination setting with a tac light. I just tried it as it's currently 1am and it's a great tip, Thanks.
I missed out on a big sale for the Huey, so I just went with an eotech
Great video as usual.
John can I tell you and your viewers my fix for rusting mounting screws on my HS 507c? Also, I needed bedding for the bottom of the RDS to prevent rain water seepage and debris intrusion from duty open-carry in tropical, rainy South Florida weather.
I used BLUE Loctite initially. WAY overkill. For removal I needed to heat my whole optic with a heat gun to soften the Blue to remove such tiny , mounting screws. No good. Black oxide coating on screws works poorly....no good. The heads quickly rusted...badly.
Solution:
1) PURPLE low strength Loctite specifically made for small screws
2) TEF GEL for bedding the RDS. Ordinarily I would use Loctite Blue or green 620. But that is for gas blocks or gas tubes or barrel extensions that rarely need to be removed. High heat from heat gun IS OK for situations like that(no electronics involved). Tef Gel is magic in a tube. I used this a LOT in my marine employment . I still use it on my car in some applications. And on my AR15 in specific applications. Just smear a thin even coat on all mounting surfaces. Wipe any excess off after tightening. Tef Gel WILL NOT SEEP!
3) SS screws! The screw heads are smaller but these still work perfectly for my HS507c in a dedicated RMR cut on my Brownells slide. Precise fit. SS screws and now BEDDED with Tef Gel.
Loctite 555339 Threadlocker 222 Low Strength Tube, Purple, 6-ml $8.96
www.amazon.com/Loctite-555339-Purple-Strength-6-milliliter/dp/B0002KKTT0/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=purple+loctite&qid=1595351231&sr=8
ULTRA Tef-gel TG-01
www.amazon.com/Original-corrosion-eliminator-lubricant-8030014504009/dp/B01606TCAG/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-nc-drs1_0?cv_ct_cx=tef+gel&dchild=1&keywords=tef+gel&pd_rd_i=B01606TCAG&pd_rd_r=24ea3849-4ceb-48cf-b6c8-2decb225cb46&pd_rd_w=54rrY&pd_rd_wg=fMRx7&pf_rd_p=43f4b3f0-0b04-46ba-8a08-2e851d035e17&pf_rd_r=Y5ZAVWWAZWCFJNVT1T2S&psc=1&qid=1595351338&sr=1-1-f3947b35-9c59-4d7a-9603-b751e6eed25b
4-40 X 1/4" machine SCREW,Flat Head, Phillips, Stainless,4-40 X 1/4"
www.amazon.com/dp/B013TL6GFY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details
Awesome! Thanks. Went and ordered those items right away.
@@spark1545
Do not be afraid to use the Tef Gel in other areas like automotive. I inject some Tef Gel into my rubber brake bleed caps. I am tired of all the rust on my bleeder screws on my Brembo Brakes on my E46 M3. It should keep my bleeder screws from rusting for years.
Think of it as a thicker, stay in place, non-metallic never seize, and corrosion preventer.
Wow, the true mvp! Ty for the advice. Rust is NO JOKE. Your optic might be solar but if it rusts it’s useless. I own acss 507 I love love love it.
@@MobileAura
Even my expensive aftermarket tritium night sights from all major companies are Black Oxide coated. Black Oxide coat3ing for ANY gun part should be outlawed. Black Oxide seems to give metal the same protection as a Sharpie.
I buy a little tool with fiberglass bristles to scrub the rust away.
Working on a fix, because the rust always reappears.
Maybe: VHT SP652 Satin Black Epoxy All Weather Paint Can - 11 oz.
@@deplorabledave1048 The only solution is to buy aluminum housing (scopes lowers etc) and titanium bcg with carbon fiber hand guards/buffer threads/castle nuts. Steel is terrible. I have a brand new PSA 1 month in already rusting at the castle but/stock area. 😵💫
Hey just picked up one of these to test out today. The one thing I’m really worried about is windage adjust is by moving the optic itself left and right. It doesn’t move the reticle. Seems like it will make it feel off center.
We will see. I will bury the windage and see if I really notice. My bet is that if it is so bad that you would notice it, you may need to check your barrel or upper.
8541 Tactical this is true. Just a small worry of mine
Good unboxing
I wanted to get one of these but got sick of waiting for the release. Went with the EXPS3 instead. If that doesn't work out I'll probably just go to an aimpoint. Still interested in your review though.
XPS > EXPS
Eotech is better anyways. Vortex is cheap stuff. Don’t get me wrong, sounds harsh. I have a Razor Gen ii E 1-6, so I do like them. But it’s still cheap.
@@chewbacca5008 I just bought a gen 2 e. Now I'm sad.
Racecar Johnny nothing wrong with it. It’s a tank! My ATACR 1-8 feels more of a true 1X than the razor though. I do not have perfect vision. But I can tell a big difference.
Did you cut the handle down on that forster co-ax press in the background?
Okay now I get it. When I saw the heading for today’s episode, I was trying to figure out why he was reviewing Helicopters now...
I thought the same thing. I was wondering why he was going to talk about the old Huey. But maybe it's the Vortex way of saying it is dependable, it'll take a beating and still operate.
Brian Johnson I didn’t notice the word Vortex when I first saw it.
I used to love unboxing vids. Now there is very little hate more than unboxing videos..
great review
I watch some of these optics review. I'd like to ask you and all the other subject matter expert. Why don't all of you get together and design THE optic that meets your criteria? Specs etc.
I'm ex law enforcement eighteen years. Seventeen years in private security. I can tell you the depth of these videos go over the head of the average shooter.
I've seen several videos for and against this optic. Regardless I'm going to buy one based upon my mission requirements.
14 hrs - 16 hrs - 8 hrs auto-off is all BS....Holosun's "shake awake" is the way to go
Shake awake is nice for civilians, but horrible for cops and military. It's always on in car, etc. Even better would be option for either ;)
Holosuns Chinese factor is not the way to go...
Cheap junk usually has to add gimmicky crap to get people to buy it. Goes with just about any gadget, the lower the quality, usually the more “tricks” it has.
Most likely, the people that buy made in China are the first to complain about not finding living wage jobs.
Apples to oranges, Holosun which I like are standard red dots. This is a holographic sight. Eotech is really the only comparison to make.
Did you ever review that Sig Romeo8T?
Love your Mail Call Mondays! I was looking into this optic as well. Thank you for doing the first look.
I have a feeling this is the first unboxing ?
Hello, could somebody please tell me, what is that bench for the reloading press on the background? It is custom or I can buy the same somewhere? :)
Thank you
That is a Inline Fabrication stand.
@@8541tactical thank you, I was looking for something like this for about a month)
Damn no shake awake eh?
Nope. That would have been awesome!
Stay firsty☝🏾
If your not watching the NFL, MLB, or NBA, then make sure you don't gamble sports. Starve the NFL, MLB, and the NBA from all profits. Drop ESPN, stop tuning into your local sport stations. Do everything you can to send a clear message to professional athletes, that their fans make it possible for them to live like kings. Tired of them dividing our country, creating division where their isn't any. Speaking as though they are authority figures, when their nothing but athletes with barely a high school education.
Battery life sucks.
That goes for any holo optic as it uses a laser instead of an LED.
Victor Poliashov battery life on Holosuns are much better. You get between 30,000 to 50,000 hours of batter life on continuous use on medium stetting. As opposed to this optic 1500 hours of battery life. That’s why Vortex and most reviewers don’t talk much about this.
@@xxfire07 And holosun are made in China, are LED, and are generally considered budget optics. Also, don't compare holographic sights to LED. They're not the same thing (at all) and have different attributes that are better for different situations. When you discard a holographic by saying "battery life is better on a holosun," you're basically saying "I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but I own a holosun so it must be better." It's not better. It (holosun) is different and works, generally speaking, better for a budget minded person who wants to have something close to (emphasis on 'close to') an aimpoint. That's all fine, no judgement there... Just try to do some research before you rip on something that you clearly don't know a lot about.
Timothy Martin First of all where in my comment did you read that I didn’t know that this was a holographic sight?? I’m waiting??? I said that the battery life sucks and that’s a fact. You say don’t compare this optic to a budget optic. Really??? I’m the consumer so I am going to compare because it’s my money. I will compare them because at any price point this doesn’t do for me what I want it to do. I would not buy this optic if it were $199. Why because the battery life sucks. That’s why. People compare Budget guns to Glocks all the time. Maybe you should go comment on thousands of videos comparing budget guns to Glocks and tell them they don’t know what they are talking about. I have 8 years on active duty and currently 20 years federal laws enforcement. The optic I purchased for my personal rifle was an Aimpoint because it’s what we use on our duty rifles. After buying Holosun I never looked back at Aimpoint.
Oh did I mention The reticle sucks on that Vortex too. But I guess you will say I’m not allowed to say that either because it’s a holographic optic.
@@xxfire07 I see full well your argument. You dropped in solely to say "battery life sucks, and I bought a holosun and it works great so it's the best." That's about as helpful to the new buyer as a fudd can get, TBH. It provides little value and attempts to create one factor for superiority. It would have been more helpful to say, "the battery life is a lot shorter on these, so if that's your primary concern, it's not a great choice."
Honestly, I don't really care whether you're in law enforcement or not. I don't know you. Just because you're in law enforcement doesn't necessarily mean you're good at your job. I certainly hope you are, but you saying it on here doesn't thrust you into trustworthiness. I've seen lifetime LEO's who are atrocious at their jobs. Again, not saying that's you, but it's prevalent. I've been shooting and training for about 30 years and have experience with all the different optics (trijicon, aimpoint, holosun, sig, eotech, vortex, Leupold... And on...), so can we put the credentialing aside and talk facts? After all of those optics, I prefer eotech for what I do. Does that mean you're wrong and I'm right? No. You made a choice on your optic, it works really well for you, and that's great.
They're simply two different optics with different operating systems. Each has its pros and cons and each is substantially better than the other in different attributes. It's a well known fact that these have a substantially shorter battery life, because it runs on lasers and not LED. It also has absolute zero parallax error (unlike aimpoint or holosun), magnifies like a FFP without enlarging the center dot, has clearer glass, a wider field of view, and is slightly faster for target acquisition. Those are facts. If you need battery life to be in the years on a patrol rifle, it's definitely not the optic for you. Really long battery life doesn't matter to everyone. If you want lightest, smallest footprint on the weapon, it's not your optic. If you want fastest optic that magnifies really well, holosun/aimpoint aren't your optics. That's great that you don't like the reticle, millions of people do like eotech style reticles, and they're not wrong for that preference.
Anyway, have a nice day.