@@jiorts They certainly are giving him a platform and were completely negligent in running a debate with rules of engagement and mic muting. Nice CNN, looks like a propaganda machine to me.
@@Standing_horse"The shortest way to ruin a country is to give power to demagogues." - Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Antiquities of Rome, VI (20 BC) How prescient this quote is about DJT!
@@bossbrent The shortest way to becoming an idiot is listening to folks on social media. I've heard of him being all kinds of things. You're entitled to your opinions
That has never been done in any televised debate. And the candidates would never agree to it unless it was on a network friendly to them. Trump would insist on Fox, Biden would never agree, and there'd be no debate.
Because Trump is poised to win. Nobody is asking Biden to step down because he was immoral onstage, they're asking him to step down because he's incapable of communicating a message to undecided voters that would convince them to vote for him. Loudly and confidently lying wins if the other side does nothing to fact check when they have the chance. Biden had countless chances to set the record straight on Trump lies, but failed to do so in almost all instances. Low info voters taking the comments of the candidates at face value during the debate have no reason to trust Biden with another presidency at this point based on his performance.
There has been plenty of talk of that, but Donald Trump’s followers are psychotic. Our only hope is practical Joe Biden supporters somehow convincing him to release his delegates so that someone who is ready for 4 years of the hardest job in the world can defeat Donald Trump and save us from fascism.
Exactly! Because apparently the other team likes liars and racism! I think Joe Biden is brighter and sharper than he performed at the debate. He's already out there showing it. For heaven's sake even up to the moment of the debate he was traveling and meeting and up to business.
Biden is definitely a pathological liar that lies for no reason. Like the BS about his uncle getting eaten by cannibals. Absolutely a pathological liar.
I miss the days when media knew their lane and stayed it by reporting facts and news. All this pontificating, pandering, hand wringing, and speculation helps nobody!
@@Ouiser56 what day is those days are you talking about the Kennedy thing or the moon landing or outer space or how about Albert Einstein equals MC square why do you think Einstein sticks his tongue out in that famous poster
I liked what the Historian said about Republicans and Democrats. It's so on point. Biden did terrible, but it's still early, so he has time to regroup. If Biden wins, he will be surrounded by competent people. The same can't be said about Trump. He surrounds himself with the worst sorts of folk. PS. I'm not a Democrat. Figured I say that before the trolls started making the accusation.
who gives a crap what some delusional historian thinks? especially one that makes his business out of his little predictions and that already locked himself into saying the two hundred million years old senile demented nursing home patient was his guy and that he was gonna win? what do you think is more likely, that he actually believes his own crap about how a dude that melted down on national television in front of the entire world is gonna win, or that he's just rolling the dice and putting on a brave face and saying this to preserve his little status and predictions while praying that "goddamn, i hope they replace great grandpa or my little stunts with the predictions are gonna be toast" that way he gets to do the whole "oh well, you know, he was replaced, i couldn't have expected that" and get to make a new prediction and probably even add a new little twist into his stuff in order to spend the rest of his days coming back to this and "by the way guys, remember that time back in 2024? yeah, i'm sure the senile demented dude would have won anyways, i'm sure i would have been right, i had all of my little checkboxes ticked, it was all gonna be perfect until those silly people replaced him" for his own personal satisfaction to make himself seem more interesting? by the way, i'm not some random historian dude that makes little predictions, but i can just as easily make up my own checkboxes. 1. the checkbox about how grandpa is currently at 30 something percent approval ratings and that literally not a single incumbent in 250 years american history has ever recovered from such terrible numbers.. not once, not ever. 2. the checkbox about how the last time around he was at 50 something percent approval ratings and still barely just won by like 45 thousand votes in a few swing states. 3. the checkbox about losing like a third of his african american support and most of his muslim american support and being almost tied with hispanics against the dude that wants to do mass deportations and actually losing with young voters which makes it game over for a democrat. 4. the dementia and shaking hands with ghosts and "very productive meetings" with the heads of state from the cold war that passed away in the 1990s checkbox. 5. the checkbox about losing by 10 or 20 points on immigration, the economy, inflation, crime, gun violence, foreign policy, gaza, etc. and even being tied with trump on the whole thing about preserving democracy, and only barely winning by a few points on healthcare and abortion how about those? i think they're pretty good and a lot more grounded in reality than the hope that "pfft, don't worry guys, it's still real early, can still recover" and that the dude that can't even put together a coherent sentence is gonna be the one star in american political history that goes against all odds and that pulls off the miraculous 20 point recovery to become the first in 250 years to get reelected with such terrible numbers.
@@wurzelausc Biden just calling,"Trump is a liar" on every thing he said, is a lie. Biden couldn't debate anything, so he'd just say,"liar... liar... liar"
I saw a tired man who has been over worked in debate prep. The very next day, Joe was back. If he couldn't bounce back, that would be one thing. Its exhausting trying to keep up with Trump's lies. Certainly the moderators didn't bother to fact check him.
And also he is currently Prez running the country his work load would be enormous, the orange man was out playing golf and spewing more lies at his rallies the weeks before.
Mitch McConnell went into a coma a few times while speaking to reporters and nobody suggested he step down. Joe was off during the debate but it's absurd to believe the people around him would let him debate if that was his normal state. This hysteria reminds me of when Chris Wallace and Chuck Todd lost their minds when Bernie Sanders won the first 3 primaries in 2020. Who the hell do they think they are ?
@@CaptainChaooooos that this was just a bad night for the man who is clearly a walking corpse. That’s like saying “the house may have burnt down today, but there’s always tomorrow right? See you at breakfast”. I hate when people use the term gaslighting inappropriately, but this is definitional exactly that, people trying to tell others that we did not see what we saw with our own eyes. We will never forget those who have tried to do this. Understand now?
@@terrancephillips5798 You are really a deeply misguided person who has no qualification to making such judgments. You are defending a sociopathic narcisist who is a lifelong criminal.
@@sagee5424 I think he meant Biden, the but lack of clarity is indicative of his weak reasoning skills Also notice the wild use of pronouns "like "we."
@@mike-u5y7t I was actually addressing the comment thread. I just picked this one randomly, which is why I used the third person: "people". Not pointing out the errors was purposeful.
What I saw was a one-foot-in-the-grave zombie they are trying to prop-up and push to the finish line. And they have been hiding his condition from me for a long time. This is worse than just Biden being a Zombie- they knew he was like that months ago- if they had any common sense they would have limited him to one term. Biden will lose.
I think he can serve four more years, but I'm not sure if we will win the election. I think the Dems can do better at this point. I think it'd be fun to see a younger, energetic, visionary who would have Biden's full support.
@@DanielBarberMusic it would be great, but we now have a choice between an old man who's a compulsive list and a danger to our country, who was a really awful President, and a slightly older man who had been an excellent President, with a long list of accomplishments. I'm sticking with the honest guy, who has integrity, over the mentally ill failed, treasure impeached, felon, rapist. It's not a close contest.
he denies hunters daughter eulogized robert byrd says your not black if you dont vote for him the 93 crime bill he sponsored - massive funding increase for prisons and jailed tens of thousands of minorities
It's not about who won the presidential debate. People are more concerned about physical fitness and mental agility required for the job. A candidate, be it a Republican or a Democrat, must be able to carry out his responsibilities for 4 years with sound mental and physical health.
@@britturk123Oh I think we argue that his counter shots showed some mental dexterity. "We beat medicare" "He did beat medicare...He beat it to death." That's lucidly agile.
@@jaobidan2358 I have never seen Trump once talk about policy with any real depth, not once. Oh he has come backs he is not stupid, but far from Intelligent.
@@britturk123 Maybe it's because you hate that man too much to ever really listen? I could tell you the policy in depth that's he talked about, but it would have no bearing on you. I'm not a fan of his but I certainly give credit where credit is due...I suppose I don't hate him that's why. Conversely, I've tried to listen to Biden talk about policy, but he usually doesn't make much sense these days.
The Sandy Koufax analogy is wrong wrong wrong. He retired not because he could not pitch at the level he had been for the last few years. That is just not true. He retired because he had severe arthritis in his pitching elbow and did not want to incur permanent damage causing a lifelong disability. Crystal is just plain wrong. And by the way no one ever replaced Koufax.
Because the GOP establishment and the RNC are the true cowards. Even Lindsey Graham said before "We can't win without Donald Trump. We need him!" It's truly pathetic.
You don't give up on your home team due to one bad game. Biden has and will continue to protect America's democracy and values. END MAGA FAR-RIGHT TRUMPISIM IN 2024.
Stuart - yes. Biden is doing the job now and he's doing a great job. He has a lot of great plans to help the American people. Joe - 4 more years. Shame on CNN. You let Trump (a known liar) lie for 1&1/2 hours. That wasn't a debate that was a "Lie to me" show. Vote BIDEN/Blue. Save our democracy.
I have to agree with the man on the right. Why are we not asking for Trump to bow out? Why is the Supreme Court not removing Trump's name from the ballot, making it against the law for him to run? Why was not one of Trump's many lies not called out by the moderators of this debate?
CNN was taken over by Right wingers, which is why they are how they are, now. CNN knows most people are not aware of this, so they are trying to sway people to Trump without being too obvious.
@@Xulios16 If fact checkers could be fast enough, I think a message appearing on the screen saying, "This has been proved to be a lie according to (factcheckers exact page for that claim)" would be appropriate. Or just playing the clip of him saying the exact words he just claimed he never said.
exactly man. Democrats and TV pundits are all backstabbing Biden, for what, one shitty debate performance? Give me a fucking break. Biden is old as shit (we all can see that), but can he do the fucking job and sign bills? Damn right he can. Trump is a convicted felon and broke his oath to the Constitution. He shouldn't even be allowed to run. Fuck off CNN.
Really, and how would you fact check a constant rapid fire, barrages of Trump's lies in 90 minutes? It easily would have stretched the debate out to, 2 and half hours.
@@bryan805Biden made approximately 10 statements that weren’t fact based. Trump made 100+ lies. That is a fact. You’re a liar too. And disingenuous. You must be MAGAt. 🤡 😉 🇺🇸🇺🇸Biden For Democracy🇺🇸🇺🇸
Sharing this ..interesting tweet--🤔 Where are the editorials calling for Trump to drop out of the race and allow Republicans to choose a non-felon as their nominee?
You must not have watched the debate. Trump is a boss. and you know it. he is sharp as a tack, and you can see it in his face. there’s no need for him to be replaced. Maybe you need to get replaced by your spouse
Because everyone saw the trial was politically motivated. You can't arrest your political opponents and still be a democracy. Now America is a train wreck. Trump has the support of all republicans and many independent voters. He is polling ahead. Although I am not American, logic says Biden needs to resign after seeing that debate. The democrats only hope would be to run Kamala and the dreaded Hillary as her running mate. That would work despite being awful. Because the doners and money is behind the shenanigans, the outcome will be a disaster.
@@imaninternettroll1660 He might be dealing with a sentence of jail (gaol if you're British) and more trials possible that he stole nuclear documents etc. He is not a unstained candidate. Where is his wife? Why do CEO's say he's dumb as a rock? There should have been much higher quality candidates on either side.
Lmao let it go already. your man is a corpse. that’s childish. good thing Obama is really the president. Because if that corpse was actually in charge, we would’ve already been gone along time ago.
Did he also think just because women are being raped and killed by Americans make it ok for immigrants to do the same to American women? This disgusting Biden does.
Yet another attempt by CNN to cover it's behind for it's deplorable performance on debate night. And all The Bulwark has done this weekend is catastrophize instead of offering something constructive to their listeners.
I don’t know what channel you was watching but for once CNN did a great job. oh wait they didn’t sneak attack Trump like you wanted they actually did a level playing field you’re used to cheating and lying. ha ha ha
Why because for the first time in 20 years they asked both candidates fair and tough questions and didn't "fact check" just the republican? You're so used to your news being spun that when it's not you can't handle it. Sad
So right. Why is the New York Times favourable to a sex abuser, fraudster, convicted felon with 55 outstanding serious criminal indictments against him while criticising Biden and keeping quiet about Trump? It is criminal!
Nothing is wrong with all convicted felons. Thats a stigma. Doing sumthin illegal DOESNT MAKE SUM1 A BAD PERSON. Sum ppl who are felons are bad ppl yes, not all of them, n being a felon on its own doesnt determine if ur a bad person.
@@iceLordgeneralSpeaking this is like the devil taken over Donald Trump is the devil himself and if we don't stop him our country is a mess because of him we have to stop him what does Russia here p he met with a Russian diplomat on the Washington DC tarmac at the airport the other day are government is not doing something about this
"The shortest way to ruin a country is to give power to demagogues." - Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Antiquities of Rome, VI (20 BC) How prescient this quote is about DJT!
Why is anybody still talking about replacement? Haven't you watched the speech on Friday in Raleigh, NC? That speech should've buried any questions of President Biden's ability to lead. Vote Blue for Biden 2025~2029! 💙💙💙💙
@@GettingSchwiftyy In 2016, when almost everyone(including Trump) thought Hilary was going to win. New York Times gave Hilary a 98% chance of winning, Professor Lichtman said Trump was going to win. I said he has to be wrong this time. ....But he was right! Even Trump wrote him a letter congraduation him on his predication." I only listen to what he say from now on", I said to myself then and I say to myself now. He hasn't made a prediction yet but he said Biden is the only person, Nobody else, to beat Trump in Novenber.
CALLING THAT BIDEN SHOULD STEP DOWN IS A STRATEGY TO MAKE TRUMP WIN. THINK ABOUT IT WHO IS REALLY DO THE CALLING, ITS THE MEDIA AND NOT THE VOTERS! BIDEN AND HIS PARTY NEED TO IGNORE THE NOISE OF STEPPING DOWN. DO NOT COWER OR BOW TO THESE PEOPLE. BE UNITED IN VOICE AND ACTION!!! 🚨 BIDEN SHOULD NOT STEP DOWN!!!🚨
After the debate, I thought, Biden needs to go. Then came Biden's North Carolina speech, I thought, "Where was this biden at the debate?" Lichtman has called every election for decades. I am not an expert on elections, so I will just close my eyes and vote for Biden and Democrats down the ticket. We need to add justices to the Supreme Court to overturn these fascist rulings, and we need to destroy Trump and MAGA and save the rule of law. If everyone just votes Dems down the line, it doesn't matter what Biden can or cannot do, we will have saved democracy.
We need to hear him speak well without a teleprompter.. it’s the only way to restore faith.. and I’m honestly not sure he can do it.. and if he can’t we need someone else
The real candidate isn't the one reading from a teleprompter at a carefully staged and scripted event. What you're saying is that Brezhnev looked perfectly healthy at the May Day parade. Oh, and he had a cold.
@@brucetucker4847 Not saying that at all. You seriously understate my points. I'm saying that I would rather vote for a man who choked in a debate for whatever reason (cold, over prepping, nerves, even age...) over a criminal con man fascist wannabe dictator who lied in every answer he gave, and every word he ever speaks. I'm saying that in a world that respects the rule of law, Donald Trump would never even be on the ballot. And last, I think the Democrats are too afraid to do what really needs to be done to defeat Trump and MAGA. I say this while being overseas with the military and knowing what it means to have been in and to be in a war to the death. Democrats need to stop following the rules that Republicans have long ago thrown into the pits of history. Republicans want a dictator; Democrats need to either join them, or fight them. There is no middle ground anymore.
There is no comparison between Biden and Trump. Biden is miles ahead of Trump in leadership, experience and capability. He also possesses qualities that Trump couldn’t hope to obtain in a million years: honesty, integrity, morals, ethics, wisdom, compassion, empathy, appreciation, the list goes on and on. Plus there’s also the fact that Biden is not a convicted criminal, unlike Trump. The only time Trump is honest about himself is when he’s projecting and lying about others. He lies constantly and he only cares about himself and satisfying his ego.
I’d like “debates” to have 3 different topics per night, not 50. Have the candidates answer the question, then fact check it, then ask the candidate to explain how the candidate came up with their answers. For example, if Trump says he won, have him prove it. We use the court system all the time to decide less important matters and people seem fine with that. Have Trump prove he won! Right now “debates” are reliant on a candidates say so. Enough salesmanship! Make them show their work. The problem with America is that we ask less of a candidate for President than any job ever known in existence!
Sounds great. So, for example, when Biden brings up a tired, 7-year old talking point about Trump's "plenty of good people on both sides" quote, the moderators can play the entire clip where Trump next said who he ISN'T referring to, and who he specifically said who should be condemned totally, and it puts the clip back in context and completely destroys a debunked smear tactic. Or maybe when Joe brought up Trump's "bloodbath" quote, they could show the actual Merriam-Webster definition of the word, where we can all see it is also used as an economic term, and it crushes another baseless claim, once and for all, so everyone will stop bringing it up and propagating a baseless lie. You mean like that?
I agrée i felt like i could have answered each of the questions for both of them with exactly how they would have answered. Not that I know a lot of policy I just know what to expect from them.
The journalists are making it worse by harping on it. To them I say get over it. Move on to the wonderful speech in North Carolina. Journalists think they know more than anyone else. Get over yourselves and report the facts and then make it clear when you are expressing your opinion and others are expressing opinions not facts. Like in this piece. It is pure opinion.
Most Americans don't know the Gish gallop technique. It's like a firehose of lies/deceptions/false narratives spoken with confidence speedily which leaves the listener with the appearance of looking confused as they are trying to figure out which lie to address first.
Thank you! I didn't know there was a name for it! I was watching from the uk. That was my thought EXACTLY! How on earth was Biden supposed to CONTINUOUSLY say that trump was lying, and why, whilst also explaining what he has done for the country, and what his future policies are....in 1-2 minutes! CNN, not fact checking trump's 30 lies was ridiculous too!
Sure. And it works. Whining about it isn't a solution. And Trump lobbed Biden some very easy shots but Biden was completely incapable of addressing them coherently. "We finally beat Medicare." WTF was that even supposed to mean?
Right. An old ploy used by many politicians, pundits and other people making RUclips videos, such as Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. They talk fast for long stretches, use big words, and speak confidently so it takes a while to register what they really said, what it means, and which part is true or a lie.
Allan Lichtman is 100% spot on. What happened after Truman and LBJ stepped aside? One bad debate? Seriously? And the very next day Biden bounced back with a rousing speech. I was sceptical about Biden in 2020, but he turned out to be the best president this century.
@@MarkSmithhhhyes, he has more achievements than any other presidents this Century I'll give one example: passing the much needed bi-partisan infrastructure bill, that *none* of his predecessors could.
Why is anybody still talking about replacement? Haven't you watched the speech on Friday in Raleigh, NC? That speech should've buried any questions of President Biden's ability to lead. Vote Blue for Biden 2025~2029! 💙💙💙💙
This isn't about whether Biden would be a good, even healthy President for the next four years. It's whether he zwill (not can... WILL) beat Trump this year. This guy's model is what he is defending, here, not democracy. It is not wise to believe that something that has worked, even 100% of the time in the past, will work as understood 100% of the time in the future. For one thing, there has never been a fascist candidate running who is polling neck and neck with a democracy candidate. The polarization and the underlying political assumptions are qualitatively different now than they've ever been. While his model MAY continue to hold, it is foolish to claim with absolute certainty that they will. His attitude in this interview was highly irresponsible as a scientist, in my view. Take those "keys" into account, absolutely. But to continue to stick with a candidate who has been polling so close to someone who is actively advocating for fascism, and who just demonstrated a complete inability to absolutely clean his clock face-to-face is an incredibly tenuous position. The idea that Biden MAY still win is not near certain enough for me as someone who thinks there is no option too unconventional when it comes to saving the potential for democracy for the forseeable future. It seems to me that a strong centrist Dem would get all of Biden's votes and MANY more. It would not be as risky as people seem to think. Sure, there would be a struggle in the selection process. But the Dems know they've got to be united in November, and that would certainly be top of mind during the selection process. My .02. Let's look forward with courage and vision and faith that by doing the right thing with honor and courage, things will work out well.
The take of someone who _is_ a doctor, with decades of experience, from a left-of-center site (although the person commenting himself is not particularly left) just two days ago (the day after the debate): “[Biden] was well into mid stage dementia during the campaign of 2019. It was obvious in his behavior and physical exam findings clearly visible on videos. Dementia issues must be evaluated by MOCAs or other cognitive tests but the corresponding physical exam findings in mid to late dementia are very obvious to a trained eye - and he had them. What we saw last night is someone in mid to late dementia.”
@@deadghost50ify I There are well over a thousand mental health professionals who have rushed their careers to come out and warm the US that Trump is mentally ill and a danger to the US. There are also numerous doctors who believe Trump has dementia, as he displays many signs of it. It's just that we're so used to Trump acting crazy and talking nonsense, and Joe being way off his game was shocking.
I am not a doctor, but I know that Biden has Parkinsonism. Obviously he is not running the country, but a shadow government has been making the decisions.
It’s not about winning it’s about who is good for the country. When someone is losing his train of thought during debate, has no business running a country period. The world is watching and laughing hard!!!
Well... I was watching and was mad at both Your president Mr. Biden and (actually far more mad at) CNN for not fact-checking Dump's constant lies... never laughed because of this debate.
You people should be ashamed for even suggesting this. Making the words a banner for this video. Not when it's a choice between living freely or being subjected to political imprisonment.
Lol what does that have to do with anything? This isn’t CNN’s fault. The guy is a walking carcass. He literally doesn’t know where he is half the time. This isn’t about stuttering or bad speech. This is way beyond that. Biden can hardly think. Why would you not replace him? If the democrats stick with this guy, there is no question they will lose this campaign. Everyone knows Trump’s lies and criminal activity do nothing to prevent him from being elected. Biden is literally gone. He is hardly capable of walking. Let alone thinking. Just put in another candidate. There is nothing shameful about that.
So you’re mad they weren’t more slanted to Biden? Moderators are supposed to be biased and argue with the one they don’t like? Is that how democracy is saved?😂
I agree with the professor. I never wavered. Joe, even with a bad debate performance, is still the best candidate to run against trump. Four months is a long time. This is going to blow over. In a week no one will be talking about replacing him.
Biden is a walking vegetable. Trump didn't just win the debate he destroyed Biden. Getting sick of these fools telling everybody that Biden's doing such a great job when people are experiencing the job he's doing financially
CALLING THAT BIDEN SHOULD STEP DOWN IS A STRATEGY TO MAKE TRUMP WIN. THINK ABOUT IT WHO IS REALLY DO THE CALLING, ITS THE MEDIA AND NOT THE VOTERS! BIDEN AND HIS PARTY NEED TO IGNORE THE NOISE OF STEPPING DOWN. DO NOT COWER OR BOW TO THESE PEOPLE. BE UNITED IN VOICE AND ACTION!!! 🚨 BIDEN SHOULD NOT STEP DOWN!!!🚨
He's an older man. But he's doing great work. And he works for the PEOPLE of the US. As unlike Trump as he can be. Honest, heartfelt, knowledgeable, unafraid of reading and talking to experts who give their honest opinion, not what they thing he wants. And he is standing AGAINST Putin, whom Trump gets hot for.
Putin invaded Ukraine under obama and dork brandon, not Trump Was biden being honest and heartfelt when he sponsored the 93 crime bill? When he said his uncle was eaten by cannibals Or when he said no troops have died under his admin That the border patrol endorsed him?
Dementia? You clearly don’t know history. Eisenhower spent much of his first term in the actual hospital, FDR died 1 yr of being elected a 3rd time during WWII, Kennedy was struggling to even stand. I can go on. You’re weak af. Biden 2024!
It wasn't diagnosed until 1994, so yea he probably started showing signs in the last year or so. Maybe longer. It depends how slow or fast his progression was. He was out of office 5 years when he was diagnosed.
Yes. Lived through it when I was in college. Supposedly, that's why Bush and Bill Barr pulled the plug on the Iran Contra investigations and prosecutions. Bit more so that roads were leading to Bush.... So we invaded Nicaragua and Iraq. It's the republican way.
BULLSHIT....Only if YOU made it that way. I heard over 30 LIES from Trump......THAT MATTERS. I did hear Biden refute the Trump lies and talk about his accomplishments with TRUTH. I'll take an honest guy who has achieved so much in less than 4 years compared to a lying convicted felon who wants to be a dictator.
What change??? I think President Biden was surprised that CNN was letting Trump spout nothing but lies. It surprised me (not that Trump lied, but that CNN didn't call him on any of his lies). CNN only let Biden talk about 10 minutes the rest of the time they gave to Trump. Did you notice that Trump didn't even answer most of the questions? Trump never said he'd accept the results if he didn't win. And Trump wouldn't say that violence is not the answer. President Biden is doing the job and he's doing a great job. He has a lot of great plans to help the American people in his second term and I believe in him. 4 more years!!!
The CNN show was not a debate based on the rules of a high school debate. Trump made no substantiated assertions. Biden broght assertions and facts. If a debater lies during a debate that is grounds for disqualification. I think Biden had too many accomplishments to remember in 2 minute segments. Trump could simply say what ever popped into his head without having to support with facts.
Biden couldn't put a coherent sentence together. The whole world saw that he is in the late stages of senile dementia. I've seen this in so many elderly relatives and lived through two generations of it in my immediate family. I'll be shocked if he lives two more years. It's sad but nature is cruel.
Biden's biggest accomplishment is allowing 20 million illegals into the U.S., and then giving them free housing, free food, free healthcare, free transportation, free cloting, free schooling, etc.., and using billion$ of America's tax dollar$ to do it with. On President Trump's last day in office, gasoline was $1.96 a gallon in Illinois. It's around $3.50 a gallon. When Trump was in office, the U.S. was the #1 producer of oil, and the U.S. Petroleum Reserves were filled to the brim. It didn't take long for Biden to give away 60% of that oil to other countries, including China.
Technically, it was Biden who challenged Trump to golf...In fact, this isn't the first time Joe has challenged Trump to some sort of physical competition to prove his "manhood".
@jaobidan2358 I fail to see how this "technically" matters. The pundits decided to focus on the golfing thing. Lichtman described punditry as no different than sportscaster TV, and they go and make it literal.
@@SuStel It does b/c Biden has a habit of trying to "prove" himself by challenging his opponent. Very much like his "two step shuffle" to make people like you think he's...spry.
@@BudTuggly69 no troops died under my watch seniors wont pay more than 200 dollars a year for medications the border patrol endorsed me i dont want to pick all five lets let someone else jump in - those were just my favs
@@GrizzlyHillsRadio And Biden was completely unable to capitalize on those absurd softballs, because he cannot string ten words together into a coherent sentence. So we have the election of the incompetent vs. the unconscionable. And when anyone suggests putting in a candidate who isn't in the terminal phase of senile dementia we get "That's crazy talk!"
I thought she brought up great points, but it was refreshing to hear both guests speak their point of view in such a thoughtful and compelling way. It really didn't come across as condenscending to me. Just speaking from her perspective and perhaps finding it surprising to hear that this wasn't a big deal. It's alright if some democrats have been in a bit of a panic. I think it's totally understandable, but it will subside. The whole debate debacle has probably brought a lot more attention to the presidential race than usual, particularly for folks who don't normally follow politics. It's become widely 'memed' and I don't think that's going to help Joe Biden's campaign. However, I do hope that the 2nd debate still happens, and I'm expecting we'll see Biden perform much better.
I get in a standard sense the benchmarks guest is bringing up, but this is a unique case. If you get out of your bubble and talk to moderates, he lost faith in people. We all saw with our eyes in real time a man suffering from cognitive decline. Dems need to turn to plan b. As a lifelong dem, I’m telling you…it came off that bad. I don’t love everything Newsom has done, but I think having a good looking man in his 50s speaking coherently will be a breath of fresh air and may shift the momentum.
I am not in favor of Biden stepping down. He should be honored for leading the country successfully into prosperity, not judged based on his current state on a single day. It's important to remember that he is surrounded by a great team of carefully selected people who diligently do their jobs. Therefore, it's short-sighted and wrong to consider Biden's health as the determining factor. In the event that Biden is unable to continue due to health reasons, Vice President Kamala Harris is highly competent to serve as an interim president. Hence, this should be the only option considered, and no removal process should be initiated, which carries many risks, including the possibility that a proposed younger candidate would not have enough time to become well-known and accepted.
As a 29 year old myself and someone who would give 10 minute talks at my job, I can confirm that memorizing talking points is not an easy thing to do at any age, and it doesn't necessarily mean someone is "losing their mind" it could mean they were sleepy, especially given Biden's fiery speech the following morning.
@@adimart2214 It's not a matter of talking points. Did you watch the debate? Biden literally looked like he was in the terminal phase of Creutzfeld-Jakob disease.
@@brucetucker4847 I myself had moments like that too, and that was despite practicing my speech for over a week, most of my speeches in front of the audience of about 120 people were great and fine but I once also froze on the platform and had to stop altogether and came down. It happens. Fetterman also froze mid debate vs Oz and still defeated him in a landslide in Pennsylvania by almost 400,000 votes only 2 years ago. And considering Trumpty Dumpty is far more hated than a Mehmet Oz who was loved by everyone on TV just be ready to lose again is all I'm saying because it's less about the person himself and more about the man's character. lol Oz was perceived as a dirt wad while Fetterman was perceived as a good human being. I believe this election will come down to that as well and the name calling, saying Brandon, and talking about retribution, talking about pardoning felons, etc just sealed Trump's defeat with independents.
@@brucetucker4847 Your statement proves your incompetence, or at least you are exaggerating, just like the orange self-proclaimed "stable" genius. And by the way, it's spelled Creutzfeldt.
LOL......Republicans are going to be soooo mad on NOV 5th.......Remember conman Dr OZ vs stroke victim Fetter-man that could not finish a sentence....They laughed on debate night and cried on election night !!!
@@toni6379 Bill certainly is coming across as a bit 'deuchy' more and more lately. But I still love the guy. I'd love him a lot more if he wasn't so ego centric though.
It's almost like people view the debate like an entertainment show, like Dancing With The Stars. The one who is loudest and most obnoxious wins? A presidency does not rest on one debate!
You’re absolutely right. Trump turned politics into a reality show. It has villains, saints, sex, drugs and bribery. That’s what he has turned our elections into, popularity contests. The presidency shouldn’t rest on one debate, but when you’re 82 years old, walk stiff as a board, can’t link two sentences together without getting lost, stand defenseless with your mouth open, and can’t end a sentence with punctuation but instead end your sentence by fading off in volume, it rests on one debate. Joe Biden didn’t look like he could do 4 more months, let alone four more years.
You’re right but it showed for the first time that Biden is mentally not capable of running the country another 4 years let alone answer questions coherently on a live debate
Is this a real historian or some political hack? Yes, Reagan was 73 in 1984 when he got asked about age during the debate, but please watch that debate again and compare how confidently Reagan speaks and answers versus how Biden was in his debate. I can't take this historian seriously after this, does he think he can gaslight me and others, that we don't have ears and eyes of our own?
@@CircusOfValues-BH486There’s one thing you and this University Professor haven’t accounted for. Our understanding of phenomena in science can change over time. This guy has successfully identified 13 keys that determine the Presidency. However, this doesn’t mean they are the ONLY keys that may exist. As the OP said, mental acuity hasn’t been a serious concern in Presidential candidates since Ronald Reagan, and he effectively diffused them while Biden did the opposite.
@@CircusOfValues-BH486 Which happened after the 1984 debate, but even if you think he was a fool before, it doesn't matter. For example: Key 9 of this model checks for a scandal, but to qualify, the recognition must be bipartisan. Popular perception is what matters, not our personal opinions.
@@dauntless0711 except the keys model has stood the test of time despite major societal and cultural changes. Lichtman has applied the keys to elections in the 1800's where there were no people of colour or women voting and they still stayed the same. 5 or more false keys meant defeat.
@@CircusOfValues-BH486 I've never even left this Country. For you to reject my being an American over petty politics is incredibly insulting and bigoted. There's nothing wrong with valuing the opinions of experts over laymen, but no one is infallible. You have a clear confirmation bias that stunts your ability to consider other possibilities. We'll see in November, won't we?
CNN viewers don't understand that CNN lies to them worse now (covering up Biden's senility up until the debate & TEN Palestinian children per day having amputations with no anesthesia which makes CNN a terrorist organization) than it did 2 years ago. The worse CNN's ratings get, the worse they lie to support EVIL & a zombie president.
I understand what you are trying to say. I couldn’t understand what Biden was trying to say. It’s what the 51 million of Americans saw when they watched the debate.
I stand with President Joe Biden to November 5th and beyond! Alan Lichtman is awesome and so intelligent. I'm glad he took control of his interview and told the commentator to let him finish. CNN commentators are awful!
I love political guys like this that study the history of politics, but in this case I don't think his approach is going to work. We've never had a sitting president appear that unwell in a presidential debate, not even close. Study history or you're bound to repeat it, but this situation is fully unique.
Exactly! One night, in a debate (which has nothing to do with being in office), does NOT mean Biden isn't capable of performing Presidential duties. Bill Kristol is exactly the definition of a "spineless democrat". Bailing on Biden over a bad debate is ludicrous.
It's not just "One bad debate" man, Biden is literally a cadaver. He's very clearly not cut out for another 4 years in office. There are people the democratic party could put forward that would absolutely demolish trump, in a debate or polling or otherwise. The fact that they haven't points further towards the absolutely pathetic rot that has taken over the democratic party.
This hasn’t just been “One night”.He’s actually been doing it during his entire presidency.The fact that Trump decided to go to the wolf’s den and do this debate.He knew that Biden would just self destruct.Biden can’t even come down a set of 3 stairs without help and you want him to perform presidential duties?
I am sorry to say that your opinions are quite silly. Biden has been a poor performer multiple times in front of cameras. To deny such facts shows pure indoctrinated ignorance. I agree that Biden still has the ability to think, but visual perception is also a very important part of being a leader. We are not talking about a CEO, or a business manager here. The leader of the Free World needs to be absolutely switched on and coherent, with strong messaging. Biden has no such ability anymore. It is a shame, because I know he is good man. Continue to defend him, and you 100% have Trump as the next President. No chance in hell Biden will win.
I am so livid with CNN and the Main strea media I have donated to Joe Biden's campagin for the first time. They really want to SELECT another dem nominee and igore the will of the people who have already voted to make Joe Biden the nominee.
73 and 81. They're the same thing obviously. Most American males DIE around 80 years old is a fact. Surely there are hundreds, if not thousands of Americans who can do a great job as President. The problem is the system of choosing candidates - not a lack of qualified candidates. Edit: My 73 vs 81 comment is about the pundit comparing Biden at 81 to Reagan (re-elected) at 73. It is sarcasm. My apologies for the ambiguity but I was commenting on the video - not making a comparison to Trump.
Bingo! Elections are won on enthusiasm. If you walked away at the end of the debate saying, “ya baby!” You have a winner. If you walk away from the debate saying the opponent did bad too, you’re overlooking that you have a loser. Joe Biden is now a guaranteed loser
There can be unintended consequences--we can work harder for Biden to win. Do like some of the MAGA's---PRAY for Biden. Think good thoughts. And unfortunately, we can't replace him unless he chooses to surrender his delegates
Does inspire them?? An 82 year old dementia patient breaks sweat trying to secure a chance to work for another 4 years in the world's most stressful job - what can be more inspiring than that?? It's like Helen Keller determines to become a sniper. The sheer will power is awe-striking.
If that is the case, we don't deserve a democracy. You vote to the best of your understanding because it's your duty as a citizen. It may sound old fashioned but it's true. You have a duty to your democracy, as broken as it is, it's better than an autocracy. Ask the Russian men...oh, yah, you can't, they've mostly died in a stupid war. Ask the women of Russia who have gas lines exploding in their cities because there is no maintenance available...and they just found out they lost their husband. A "strong man" leader is a catastrophe. If you elect Diaper Don, you deserve everything you get. It won't turn out well.
It used to, as it was one of only few major sources of information (unedited, uncut and without a doubt) to gage and understand the person they would eventually nominate. However, the people that used to watch it in the day were more genuine American citizens, not citizens through amnesty, citizens through pathway to permanency or citizens through family reunion schemes etc.
@@crxdelsolsir I think you're right that the debates used to be more highly regarded by the average voter. But I don't think we should underestimate the power of social media when clips become memes and the memes go viral.
CALLING THAT BIDEN SHOULD STEP DOWN IS A STRATEGY TO MAKE TRUMP WIN. THINK ABOUT IT WHO IS REALLY DO THE CALLING, ITS THE MEDIA AND NOT THE VOTERS! BIDEN AND HIS PARTY NEED TO IGNORE THE NOISE OF STEPPING DOWN. DO NOT COWER OR BOW TO THESE PEOPLE. BE UNITED IN VOICE AND ACTION!!! 🚨 BIDEN SHOULD NOT STEP DOWN!!!🚨
Elections never work anyway; at the end of the day the MIC, AIPAC, & Big Pharma run the country regardless of elections. Let's not pretend America is a functioning democracy.
I'll take an older man with character, experience and working for the will of the people, over and authoritarian narcissist who does not give a sh it about anything but himself. If you vote, it might be the last time you get to vote if you vote for Trump!!!!
Florida didn't get to have a Primary vote - thanks dnc dork brandon has no character, he eulogized robert byrd and woudn't let corn pop in a public pool doesn't hang a Christmas stocking for his grandchild his wife called me a taco...
Koufax analogy is garbage. Koufax retired bc his arm hurt beyond belief and he said he wanted to be able to use his arm for the remainder of his life like holding his children. Biden is not complaining of a headache. He just had 1 bad night
Koufax never had a single game as bad as that. When the opposing team bats around the order twice in the first inning, you pull the pitcher, even if it's Sandy Koufax.
I am a Canadian always respected him over Trump. But Thursday I was very concerned he was showing signs of Dementia. I think he should step aside. Retirement with dignity. It was very sad to watch from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦.
Why didn't CNN tell Trump to answer the questions instead of rambling off topic and lies. Biden was nursing a cold, he showed up and answered the questions and didnt lie. GIVE THE MAN A BREAK
90 minutes of Biden sore throat on the debate will not change anything on my side, I will judge him by his 3 years and half handwork. A lot of people will be drop out of their job anytime they have sore throat like JoBiden.
You’re willing to side with a man in obvious mental decline than choose a better candidate? You’re handed this election away, and I’m okay with that. Let’s check back in November.
Biden's public speech after the (time-limited response) debate was on fire and much stronger. Drumpf's habitual lying and exaggerations occur anywhere and everywhere. I'm (once again) voting for Kamala Harris (and yes Joe Biden).
Joe is Barry's puppet. As I type these words Barry and his democrat best buddies are looking for a new puppet. It ain't easy to find a better puppet than Joe, senile, corrupt, with Dr. Jill ready to push him 24/7. Then who? Kamala, ok, get serious here. Gavin, great hair but probably not a great puppet. Big Mike, maybe, but the USA isn't ready for a TS gurl POTUS. Buttijudge, possible, he and Barry have a lot in common.
As an old man I enjoy watching old men argue about old men.
😂😂😂
I know right!
@@DavidWilsonsays yeah but they already told us in a movie it's no country for Old Men nes pas capiche
WELL don't fret: you were young once.....We mostly all get a turn which is the way of the world....and then it moves on.
lol
I also do not understand all this CNN panic. Actually CNN is doing Trumps campaign
cnn Trump Biden = zionists!
Yeah i dont know why they play in his hands
@@jiorts They certainly are giving him a platform and were completely negligent in running a debate with rules of engagement and mic muting. Nice CNN, looks like a propaganda machine to me.
No one in the Lincoln Project nor Bill Crystal is a conservative Republican. 😅
Biden is senile.
Thanks for nothing CNN.
cry cry cry bahahahahah
Its what happens when they hide a major problem.
CNN is responsible for this terrible debate format. It gave Trump Carte Blanche to say anything he wanted unchallenged. It’s was a liars paradise.
@@Standing_horse"The shortest way to ruin a country is to give power to demagogues."
- Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Antiquities of Rome, VI (20 BC)
How prescient this quote is about DJT!
@@bossbrent
The shortest way to becoming an idiot is listening to folks on social media. I've heard of him being all kinds of things. You're entitled to your opinions
I’m surprised that CNN didn’t do any fact checking during the debate
That has never been done in any televised debate. And the candidates would never agree to it unless it was on a network friendly to them. Trump would insist on Fox, Biden would never agree, and there'd be no debate.
CNN, now owned by a Murdoch buddy, doesn't even know how to frame a question. Listen to James O'Brien of the UK's LBC, who simply does journalism 101.
The whole thing was poorly done.
Apparently, the two of them got together and decided not to. That's what I heard someone say anyway.
Half of the "debate" would be fact checking the both of them.
9:26 Guest has a good point -one is a pathological liar, malignant narcissist, criminal & con man. Why isn’t the discussion that HE should step down?
Because Trump is poised to win. Nobody is asking Biden to step down because he was immoral onstage, they're asking him to step down because he's incapable of communicating a message to undecided voters that would convince them to vote for him. Loudly and confidently lying wins if the other side does nothing to fact check when they have the chance. Biden had countless chances to set the record straight on Trump lies, but failed to do so in almost all instances. Low info voters taking the comments of the candidates at face value during the debate have no reason to trust Biden with another presidency at this point based on his performance.
Hopefully, Trump will be sentenced to jail...and just stay there.
There has been plenty of talk of that, but Donald Trump’s followers are psychotic. Our only hope is practical Joe Biden supporters somehow convincing him to release his delegates so that someone who is ready for 4 years of the hardest job in the world can defeat Donald Trump and save us from fascism.
Exactly! Because apparently the other team likes liars and racism! I think Joe Biden is brighter and sharper than he performed at the debate. He's already out there showing it. For heaven's sake even up to the moment of the debate he was traveling and meeting and up to business.
Biden is definitely a pathological liar that lies for no reason. Like the BS about his uncle getting eaten by cannibals. Absolutely a pathological liar.
How about replacing the CNN anchors.
EXACTLY RIGHT!!!
They SUCK.
They should bring back little Brian stelter so we can watch more mark dice impressions of him.
How about replacing mainstream media?
With equal peers?
Does CNN have enough potted plants to do that?
I miss the days when media knew their lane and stayed it by reporting facts and news. All this pontificating, pandering, hand wringing, and speculation helps nobody!
Right on! So tired of medias opinions! Report the facts!
When was that? Newspapers have been partisan and opinionated throughout US history.
Did you watch the debate? Do you know a person who has the symptoms of dementia? I guess not.
@@Ouiser56 what day is those days are you talking about the Kennedy thing or the moon landing or outer space or how about Albert Einstein equals MC square why do you think Einstein sticks his tongue out in that famous poster
The media is outright lying to your face. The days you miss ended over 50 years ago.
I mean I can easily see the old man point, but i also agree that the panic of the party definitely hurts chances.
I liked what the Historian said about Republicans and Democrats. It's so on point. Biden did terrible, but it's still early, so he has time to regroup. If Biden wins, he will be surrounded by competent people. The same can't be said about Trump. He surrounds himself with the worst sorts of folk. PS. I'm not a Democrat. Figured I say that before the trolls started making the accusation.
You don't regroup from dementia and corruption.
Kamala is very smart and she's gotten better over these years. We're much safer with Biden. Think good thoughts for him. Pray for Biden.
who gives a crap what some delusional historian thinks? especially one that makes his business out of his little predictions and that already locked himself into saying the two hundred million years old senile demented nursing home patient was his guy and that he was gonna win?
what do you think is more likely, that he actually believes his own crap about how a dude that melted down on national television in front of the entire world is gonna win, or that he's just rolling the dice and putting on a brave face and saying this to preserve his little status and predictions while praying that "goddamn, i hope they replace great grandpa or my little stunts with the predictions are gonna be toast" that way he gets to do the whole "oh well, you know, he was replaced, i couldn't have expected that" and get to make a new prediction and probably even add a new little twist into his stuff in order to spend the rest of his days coming back to this and "by the way guys, remember that time back in 2024? yeah, i'm sure the senile demented dude would have won anyways, i'm sure i would have been right, i had all of my little checkboxes ticked, it was all gonna be perfect until those silly people replaced him" for his own personal satisfaction to make himself seem more interesting?
by the way, i'm not some random historian dude that makes little predictions, but i can just as easily make up my own checkboxes.
1. the checkbox about how grandpa is currently at 30 something percent approval ratings and that literally not a single incumbent in 250 years american history has ever recovered from such terrible numbers.. not once, not ever.
2. the checkbox about how the last time around he was at 50 something percent approval ratings and still barely just won by like 45 thousand votes in a few swing states.
3. the checkbox about losing like a third of his african american support and most of his muslim american support and being almost tied with hispanics against the dude that wants to do mass deportations and actually losing with young voters which makes it game over for a democrat.
4. the dementia and shaking hands with ghosts and "very productive meetings" with the heads of state from the cold war that passed away in the 1990s checkbox.
5. the checkbox about losing by 10 or 20 points on immigration, the economy, inflation, crime, gun violence, foreign policy, gaza, etc. and even being tied with trump on the whole thing about preserving democracy, and only barely winning by a few points on healthcare and abortion
how about those? i think they're pretty good and a lot more grounded in reality than the hope that "pfft, don't worry guys, it's still real early, can still recover" and that the dude that can't even put together a coherent sentence is gonna be the one star in american political history that goes against all odds and that pulls off the miraculous 20 point recovery to become the first in 250 years to get reelected with such terrible numbers.
Thank you for bringing up the quality of Joe's team. Trump didn't listen to his much
@@Nina-i8i And the number of people who worked with him (t) who say he is NOT FIT for the office is staggering.
Professor Allan Lichtman is the only man I trust. FAR above any pollsters.
🤣🤣🤣 Literally the DUMBEST thing I’ve ever heard. 😂😂😂😂
Talk about blind trust
He is wrong.
I respected him u til I saw him say this. Lost all respect for him.
Folks HE HAS DEMENTIA. WHAT DONT YOU GET?
Debating an unchecked liar is impossible.
As someone said it's like fighting an Avalanche with a tennis racket.
@@katherineweber8955 or akin to trying to stop the waves in the ocean with a paddle board lol
true, but why TF did they let Biden debate liar Trump?
@@wurzelausc Biden just calling,"Trump is a liar" on every thing he said, is a lie. Biden couldn't debate anything, so he'd just say,"liar... liar... liar"
Remember....Joe has To Be ready To Pardon Hunter & Rest Of Crime Family.
Not going to vote other candidates if President Biden is out.
I saw a tired man who has been over worked in debate prep. The very next day, Joe was back. If he couldn't bounce back, that would be one thing. Its exhausting trying to keep up with Trump's lies. Certainly the moderators didn't bother to fact check him.
Earpiece and a teleprompter are Biden's lifelines.
Looks like they got the dosage right yesterday.
Denial is hard isn’t it?
And also he is currently Prez running the country his work load would be enormous, the orange man was out playing golf and spewing more lies at his rallies the weeks before.
He was back reading off a teleprompter and had a live crowd of supporters. Stop being delusional.
Biden did not just lose the debate- he was was DEmENTED !! Regan won but he was not clearly demented on national tv…
Mitch McConnell went into a coma a few times while speaking to reporters and nobody suggested he step down. Joe was off during the debate but it's absurd to believe the people around him would let him debate if that was his normal state. This hysteria reminds me of when Chris Wallace and Chuck Todd lost their minds when Bernie Sanders won the first 3 primaries in 2020. Who the hell do they think they are ?
He's not running for President
He is a senator and isn’t running for reelection. Joe Biden is the president of the United States and is running for four more years.
Completely agree.
You are channeling Trump, many democrats wanted him to resign. Or I guess you could have a poor memory or be a hypocrit.
I believe McConnell had a concussion.
Careers are ending this week. I will NEVER again trust the people who are saying these things right now.
What things?
@@CaptainChaooooos that this was just a bad night for the man who is clearly a walking corpse. That’s like saying “the house may have burnt down today, but there’s always tomorrow right? See you at breakfast”. I hate when people use the term gaslighting inappropriately, but this is definitional exactly that, people trying to tell others that we did not see what we saw with our own eyes. We will never forget those who have tried to do this. Understand now?
@@terrancephillips5798 talking about Allan lichtman?
@@terrancephillips5798 You are really a deeply misguided person who has no qualification to making such judgments. You are defending a sociopathic narcisist who is a lifelong criminal.
@@sagee5424 I think he meant Biden, the but lack of clarity is indicative of his weak reasoning skills Also notice the wild use of pronouns "like "we."
The only reason I still listen to CNN time to time is to hear how stupid things have got, this takes the cake.
Stupid is what stupid does.
Please for the love of God people, use spell check. It's the red thing that underlines a wrong word.
@@black_sheep_nation You mean gotten? You forgot to mention which word.
@@mike-u5y7t I was actually addressing the comment thread. I just picked this one randomly, which is why I used the third person: "people". Not pointing out the errors was purposeful.
@@black_sheep_nation Werll people who make grammatical errors won't stop unless they know they are doing it. Well maybe not even then.
What We the People see is Weak Fearful Media Personalities.
It’s only dementia!
You're now mad at the media for finally kinda telling the truth?
The fact that these “experts” keep pushing for a literal corpse to keep running this country,shows how crazy these people actually are.
100% on point!!!
What I saw was a one-foot-in-the-grave zombie they are trying to prop-up and push to the finish line. And they have been hiding his condition from me for a long time. This is worse than just Biden being a Zombie- they knew he was like that months ago- if they had any common sense they would have limited him to one term. Biden will lose.
It's not about the debate. It's about whether Biden can serve another four years.
How about another 6 months?
Trump thinks he is friends with Hanibal Lecter
You think so? Well, I don’t want Donald J. Trump back in the White House because he’s a criminal.
I think he can serve four more years, but I'm not sure if we will win the election. I think the Dems can do better at this point. I think it'd be fun to see a younger, energetic, visionary who would have Biden's full support.
@@DanielBarberMusic it would be great, but we now have a choice between an old man who's a compulsive list and a danger to our country, who was a really awful President, and a slightly older man who had been an excellent President, with a long list of accomplishments. I'm sticking with the honest guy, who has integrity, over the mentally ill failed, treasure impeached, felon, rapist. It's not a close contest.
Thank you!! People are smart. People listen to words and policy. Stand with Joe Biden. Old. Wise. Empathetic.
he denies hunters daughter
eulogized robert byrd
says your not black if you dont vote for him
the 93 crime bill he sponsored - massive funding increase for prisons and jailed tens of thousands of minorities
Spell those words of which you speak 😂
I was very disappointed with CNN's lack of fact checking Trump.
They should have been muting his mic and correcting the statement.
watching cnn crumble after the debate was even better than the actual debate
it'll be Faux News crumbling the day you lose to someone like Biden, will be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen.
Thank you ProfessorLichtman! The media will beat this drum like they did the "her emails".
they never asked what was in those emails: for example the things she was saying back in 2015 about wuhan...those never get talked about. wonder why
It's not about who won the presidential debate. People are more concerned about physical fitness and mental agility required for the job. A candidate, be it a Republican or a Democrat, must be able to carry out his responsibilities for 4 years with sound mental and physical health.
Yes but mental agility is not something one would say Trump has any of, at all at all.
@@britturk123Oh I think we argue that his counter shots showed some mental dexterity.
"We beat medicare"
"He did beat medicare...He beat it to death."
That's lucidly agile.
@@jaobidan2358 I have never seen Trump once talk about policy with any real depth, not once.
Oh he has come backs he is not stupid, but far from Intelligent.
@@britturk123 Maybe it's because you hate that man too much to ever really listen? I could tell you the policy in depth that's he talked about, but it would have no bearing on you. I'm not a fan of his but I certainly give credit where credit is due...I suppose I don't hate him that's why. Conversely, I've tried to listen to Biden talk about policy, but he usually doesn't make much sense these days.
Biden may be more fit, but he may be poor at explaining that.
The Sandy Koufax analogy is wrong wrong wrong. He retired not because he could not pitch at the level he had been for the last few years. That is just not true. He retired because he had severe arthritis in his pitching elbow and did not want to incur permanent damage causing a lifelong disability. Crystal is just plain wrong. And by the way no one ever replaced Koufax.
Why is no-one asking the fellon to step down?
Because he can say a sentence coherently.
Because we don't believe that his trial was fair.
Omg, right??!
Because the GOP establishment and the RNC are the true cowards. Even Lindsey Graham said before "We can't win without Donald Trump. We need him!" It's truly pathetic.
Because fellon is not a word.
You don't give up on your home team due to one bad game. Biden has and will continue to protect America's democracy and values. END MAGA FAR-RIGHT TRUMPISIM IN 2024.
Who is paying you?
😂
Exactly. I think these pro biden comments are a op of some kind.
What values? One guy is a walking dead and the other is psychopath...
Sports teams don't put players on the field when they can't walk. Jill and the Handlers do.
Put this guy on every network!!
Stuart - yes.
Biden is doing the job now and he's doing a great job. He has a lot of great plans to help the American people. Joe - 4 more years.
Shame on CNN. You let Trump (a known liar) lie for 1&1/2 hours. That wasn't a debate that was a "Lie to me" show.
Vote BIDEN/Blue. Save our democracy.
His prediction in year 2000 that Al Gore would be elected was wrong. In year 2001, George W. Bush became president.
I have to agree with the man on the right. Why are we not asking for Trump to bow out? Why is the Supreme Court not removing Trump's name from the ballot, making it against the law for him to run? Why was not one of Trump's many lies not called out by the moderators of this debate?
CNN was taken over by Right wingers, which is why they are how they are, now.
CNN knows most people are not aware of this, so they are trying to sway people to Trump without being too obvious.
Because you cannot just make laws to restrict political opponents out of thin air.
cnn Trump Biden = zionists!
@@Xulios16 If fact checkers could be fast enough, I think a message appearing on the screen saying, "This has been proved to be a lie according to (factcheckers exact page for that claim)" would be appropriate. Or just playing the clip of him saying the exact words he just claimed he never said.
exactly man.
Democrats and TV pundits are all backstabbing Biden, for what, one shitty debate performance? Give me a fucking break.
Biden is old as shit (we all can see that), but can he do the fucking job and sign bills? Damn right he can.
Trump is a convicted felon and broke his oath to the Constitution. He shouldn't even be allowed to run. Fuck off CNN.
“Debates are not predictive of outcomes.”
Bet this guy is a democratic
Unfortunately, in these days, it does it'll definitely sway some who are unsure it's just a popular vote
Want to bet?
tell that to independent voters
Then why is every far leftist media freaking out?
Had CNN fact-checked like they announced they would do I would be more open to listening to this BS.
True, they didn’t fact check a single lie of Joe Biden. And they continue to turn a blind eye.
Really, and how would you fact check a constant rapid fire, barrages of Trump's lies in 90 minutes? It easily would have stretched the debate out to, 2 and half hours.
@@timmartin7664 would have been 8 hours if they fact checked Joe. But his lies were so blatant, most viewers didn’t need any help fact checking.
@@bryan805Biden made approximately 10 statements that weren’t fact based. Trump made 100+ lies. That is a fact. You’re a liar too. And disingenuous. You must be MAGAt. 🤡
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🇺🇸🇺🇸Biden For Democracy🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@timmartin7664you do it. Period.
Maybe CNN should have called out the lies in real time! Can you imagine debating someone when all the do is lie?
CNN had no desire to fact check because it would have proven just how much Trump lies. It is very obvious who CNN is supporting.
Funny Biden would say my son is a perfect human being. lol
@@6530517 Not too much happening upstairs for you, huh?
Sharing this ..interesting tweet--🤔
Where are the editorials calling for Trump to drop out of the race and allow Republicans to choose a non-felon as their nominee?
You must not have watched the debate. Trump is a boss. and you know it. he is sharp as a tack, and you can see it in his face. there’s no need for him to be replaced. Maybe you need to get replaced by your spouse
Because everyone saw the trial was politically motivated. You can't arrest your political opponents and still be a democracy. Now America is a train wreck. Trump has the support of all republicans and many independent voters. He is polling ahead. Although I am not American, logic says Biden needs to resign after seeing that debate. The democrats only hope would be to run Kamala and the dreaded Hillary as her running mate. That would work despite being awful. Because the doners and money is behind the shenanigans, the outcome will be a disaster.
@@imaninternettroll1660 He might be dealing with a sentence of jail (gaol if you're British) and more trials possible that he stole nuclear documents etc. He is not a unstained candidate. Where is his wife? Why do CEO's say he's dumb as a rock? There should have been much higher quality candidates on either side.
Why would the front runner who is leading in all the polls drop out? Trump has never been more popular than he is now.
Well donald trump was nominated and elected through a primary that allowed all candidates unlike joe biden.
President Franklin Roosevelt served for 12 years from a wheelchair and did just fine.
FDR had a working brain
Lmao let it go already. your man is a corpse. that’s childish. good thing Obama is really the president. Because if that corpse was actually in charge, we would’ve already been gone along time ago.
Trump 2024🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I don’t even understand your comparison.
Did he also think just because women are being raped and killed by Americans make it ok for immigrants to do the same to American women? This disgusting Biden does.
Yet another attempt by CNN to cover it's behind for it's deplorable performance on debate night. And all The Bulwark has done this weekend is catastrophize instead of offering something constructive to their listeners.
I don’t know what channel you was watching but for once CNN did a great job. oh wait they didn’t sneak attack Trump like you wanted they actually did a level playing field you’re used to cheating and lying. ha ha ha
Why because for the first time in 20 years they asked both candidates fair and tough questions and didn't "fact check" just the republican? You're so used to your news being spun that when it's not you can't handle it. Sad
Abby cut him off because he was critical of the cable news anchors.
I would say the New York times can go screw itself. Not once have they suggested Trump step aside. You know the guy that is a convicted felon.
So right. Why is the New York Times favourable to a sex abuser, fraudster, convicted felon with 55 outstanding serious criminal indictments against him while criticising Biden and keeping quiet about Trump? It is criminal!
All the lies that Donald Trump told his whole presidency and Thursday night are all lies and he is not asked to step down
Nothing is wrong with all convicted felons. Thats a stigma. Doing sumthin illegal DOESNT MAKE SUM1 A BAD PERSON. Sum ppl who are felons are bad ppl yes, not all of them, n being a felon on its own doesnt determine if ur a bad person.
Lol… At least Biden has an excuse he’s brain dead, what’s yours?
@@iceLordgeneralSpeaking this is like the devil taken over Donald Trump is the devil himself and if we don't stop him our country is a mess because of him we have to stop him what does Russia here p he met with a Russian diplomat on the Washington DC tarmac at the airport the other day are government is not doing something about this
"The shortest way to ruin a country is to give power to demagogues."
- Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Antiquities of Rome, VI (20 BC)
How prescient this quote is about DJT!
We have a demagogue now with his DOJ
Or ‘for profit’ news outlets.
That's because Dionysius of Halicarnassus couldn't conceive that any country would hand executive power to a brain-dead zombie.
I totally agree with you!
I am voting Biden!
cnn Trump Biden = zionists!
Why is anybody still talking about replacement? Haven't you watched the speech on Friday in Raleigh, NC? That speech should've buried any questions of President Biden's ability to lead. Vote Blue for Biden 2025~2029! 💙💙💙💙
Just can’t wait for Professor Allan Lichtman to let me know by August. I trust & respect his prediction.
You sound like a true brainless sheep😂😂😂
"I can't wait for someone to tell me how to think.."
🤣🤣🤣
Haha. August. That's no great feat
. The guy sounded unhinged😊
In other words
"I just can't wait for someone to tell me how to think..."😂😂
@@GettingSchwiftyy In 2016, when almost everyone(including Trump) thought Hilary was going to win. New York Times gave Hilary a 98% chance of winning, Professor Lichtman said Trump was going to win. I said he has to be wrong this time. ....But he was right! Even Trump wrote him a letter congraduation him on his predication." I only listen to what he say from now on", I said to myself then and I say to myself now. He hasn't made a prediction yet but he said Biden is the only person, Nobody else, to beat Trump in Novenber.
CALLING THAT BIDEN SHOULD STEP DOWN IS A STRATEGY TO MAKE TRUMP WIN. THINK ABOUT IT WHO IS REALLY DO THE CALLING, ITS THE MEDIA AND NOT THE VOTERS!
BIDEN AND HIS PARTY NEED TO IGNORE THE NOISE OF STEPPING DOWN. DO NOT COWER OR BOW TO THESE PEOPLE. BE UNITED IN VOICE AND ACTION!!!
🚨 BIDEN SHOULD NOT STEP DOWN!!!🚨
After the debate, I thought, Biden needs to go. Then came Biden's North Carolina speech, I thought, "Where was this biden at the debate?" Lichtman has called every election for decades. I am not an expert on elections, so I will just close my eyes and vote for Biden and Democrats down the ticket. We need to add justices to the Supreme Court to overturn these fascist rulings, and we need to destroy Trump and MAGA and save the rule of law. If everyone just votes Dems down the line, it doesn't matter what Biden can or cannot do, we will have saved democracy.
We need to hear him speak well without a teleprompter.. it’s the only way to restore faith.. and I’m honestly not sure he can do it.. and if he can’t we need someone else
The real candidate isn't the one reading from a teleprompter at a carefully staged and scripted event. What you're saying is that Brezhnev looked perfectly healthy at the May Day parade. Oh, and he had a cold.
Notice Lichtman didn't make a prediction.
@@brucetucker4847 Not saying that at all. You seriously understate my points. I'm saying that I would rather vote for a man who choked in a debate for whatever reason (cold, over prepping, nerves, even age...) over a criminal con man fascist wannabe dictator who lied in every answer he gave, and every word he ever speaks. I'm saying that in a world that respects the rule of law, Donald Trump would never even be on the ballot. And last, I think the Democrats are too afraid to do what really needs to be done to defeat Trump and MAGA. I say this while being overseas with the military and knowing what it means to have been in and to be in a war to the death. Democrats need to stop following the rules that Republicans have long ago thrown into the pits of history. Republicans want a dictator; Democrats need to either join them, or fight them. There is no middle ground anymore.
There is no comparison between Biden and Trump. Biden is miles ahead of Trump in leadership, experience and capability.
He also possesses qualities that Trump couldn’t hope to obtain in a million years: honesty, integrity, morals, ethics, wisdom, compassion, empathy, appreciation, the list goes on and on. Plus there’s also the fact that Biden is not a convicted criminal, unlike Trump.
The only time Trump is honest about himself is when he’s projecting and lying about others. He lies constantly and he only cares about himself and satisfying his ego.
please come back after election day
Elder Abuse -- we're all looking at you JILL
I’d like “debates” to have 3 different topics per night, not 50. Have the candidates answer the question, then fact check it, then ask the candidate to explain how the candidate came up with their answers. For example, if Trump says he won, have him prove it. We use the court system all the time to decide less important matters and people seem fine with that. Have Trump prove he won! Right now “debates” are reliant on a candidates say so. Enough salesmanship! Make them show their work. The problem with America is that we ask less of a candidate for President than any job ever known in existence!
And a candidate cannot say" go back to what he said before". Answer the question.!
Sounds great. So, for example, when Biden brings up a tired, 7-year old talking point about Trump's "plenty of good people on both sides" quote, the moderators can play the entire clip where Trump next said who he ISN'T referring to, and who he specifically said who should be condemned totally, and it puts the clip back in context and completely destroys a debunked smear tactic. Or maybe when Joe brought up Trump's "bloodbath" quote, they could show the actual Merriam-Webster definition of the word, where we can all see it is also used as an economic term, and it crushes another baseless claim, once and for all, so everyone will stop bringing it up and propagating a baseless lie. You mean like that?
Best answer I've seen. Excellent idea!!!
I agrée i felt like i could have answered each of the questions for both of them with exactly how they would have answered. Not that I know a lot of policy I just know what to expect from them.
You cannot blame the rules for Biden being incompetent.
The journalists are making it worse by harping on it. To them I say get over it. Move on to the wonderful speech in North Carolina. Journalists think they know more than anyone else. Get over yourselves and report the facts and then make it clear when you are expressing your opinion and others are expressing opinions not facts. Like in this piece. It is pure opinion.
Lol, now you don't like what they say, you people are such a disappointment to humanity, completely incapable of thinking for your selves.
Most Americans don't know the Gish gallop technique. It's like a firehose of lies/deceptions/false narratives spoken with confidence speedily which leaves the listener with the appearance of looking confused as they are trying to figure out which lie to address first.
Thank you!
I didn't know there was a name for it!
I was watching from the uk.
That was my thought EXACTLY!
How on earth was Biden supposed to CONTINUOUSLY say that trump was lying, and why, whilst also explaining what he has done for the country, and what his future policies are....in 1-2 minutes!
CNN, not fact checking trump's 30 lies was ridiculous too!
He looked confused before the debate started, and after it ended, and during it.
Sure. And it works. Whining about it isn't a solution. And Trump lobbed Biden some very easy shots but Biden was completely incapable of addressing them coherently. "We finally beat Medicare." WTF was that even supposed to mean?
Right. An old ploy used by many politicians, pundits and other people making RUclips videos, such as Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. They talk fast for long stretches, use big words, and speak confidently so it takes a while to register what they really said, what it means, and which part is true or a lie.
@@brucetucker4847He obviously misspoke. I think he meant SAVED MEDICARE.
Allan Lichtman is 100% spot on.
What happened after Truman and LBJ stepped aside?
One bad debate? Seriously?
And the very next day Biden bounced back with a rousing speech.
I was sceptical about Biden in 2020, but he turned out to be the best president this century.
"rousing speech" I think you misspelled 'reading a teleprompter while overdosed on Adderall'.
He didn't just lose a debate, and if you watched it you'd know that.
Best president of this century? Lol
@@MarkSmithhhhyes, he has more achievements than any other presidents this Century
I'll give one example: passing the much needed bi-partisan infrastructure bill, that *none* of his predecessors could.
And the very next day Biden bounced back with a rousing speech LOL
Character matters and I cannot in good conscience vote for Trump!
But you could vote a man that's funding a genocide with your tax dollars???
It just may be time to take the car keys away from Grandpa.
Why is anybody still talking about replacement? Haven't you watched the speech on Friday in Raleigh, NC? That speech should've buried any questions of President Biden's ability to lead. Vote Blue for Biden 2025~2029! 💙💙💙💙
@@unique2dou964 A convicted felon, perpetual liar and full time crime boss or Joe (depending on what day it is) Zombie Biden.
Don't need to. He can't open the doors without help anyway.
@@unique2dou964 If I have to choose between an authoritarian proto-fascist and a demented right-winger I'm gonna choose neither. So Jill Stein it is.
No, no, that 34-car pileup he caused on the freeway was Just One Bad Night!
"they're not doctors..." thank you, Allan for your wisdom.
This isn't about whether Biden would be a good, even healthy President for the next four years. It's whether he zwill (not can... WILL) beat Trump this year.
This guy's model is what he is defending, here, not democracy. It is not wise to believe that something that has worked, even 100% of the time in the past, will work as understood 100% of the time in the future. For one thing, there has never been a fascist candidate running who is polling neck and neck with a democracy candidate.
The polarization and the underlying political assumptions are qualitatively different now than they've ever been. While his model MAY continue to hold, it is foolish to claim with absolute certainty that they will. His attitude in this interview was highly irresponsible as a scientist, in my view.
Take those "keys" into account, absolutely. But to continue to stick with a candidate who has been polling so close to someone who is actively advocating for fascism, and who just demonstrated a complete inability to absolutely clean his clock face-to-face is an incredibly tenuous position. The idea that Biden MAY still win is not near certain enough for me as someone who thinks there is no option too unconventional when it comes to saving the potential for democracy for the forseeable future.
It seems to me that a strong centrist Dem would get all of Biden's votes and MANY more. It would not be as risky as people seem to think. Sure, there would be a struggle in the selection process. But the Dems know they've got to be united in November, and that would certainly be top of mind during the selection process.
My .02. Let's look forward with courage and vision and faith that by doing the right thing with honor and courage, things will work out well.
But there are doctors who have made comments about this though lol
The take of someone who _is_ a doctor, with decades of experience, from a left-of-center site (although the person commenting himself is not particularly left) just two days ago (the day after the debate):
“[Biden] was well into mid stage dementia during the campaign of 2019. It was obvious in his behavior and physical exam findings clearly visible on videos. Dementia issues must be evaluated by MOCAs or other cognitive tests but the corresponding physical exam findings in mid to late dementia are very obvious to a trained eye - and he had them. What we saw last night is someone in mid to late dementia.”
@@deadghost50ify I There are well over a thousand mental health professionals who have rushed their careers to come out and warm the US that Trump is mentally ill and a danger to the US. There are also numerous doctors who believe Trump has dementia, as he displays many signs of it. It's just that we're so used to Trump acting crazy and talking nonsense, and Joe being way off his game was shocking.
I am not a doctor, but I know that Biden has Parkinsonism. Obviously he is not running the country, but a shadow government has been making the decisions.
It’s not about winning it’s about who is good for the country. When someone is losing his train of thought during debate, has no business running a country period. The world is watching and laughing hard!!!
And the guy who was completely incoherent, feeble, habitual lying convicted felon, rapist , tax cheat and insurrectionest is? Your insane !
Well... I was watching and was mad at both Your president Mr. Biden and (actually far more mad at) CNN for not fact-checking Dump's constant lies... never laughed because of this debate.
And Abby interrupting guest AGAIN… 1:49 30 seconds after her last interruption. She behaves smug & acts superior. Not respectful of her guest.
They aren’t saying what she wants to hear.
Not used to a Black woman holding her own and not letting people run over her? Get used to it.
They're *desperately trying to put lipstick on the pig*
OK, given Trump's obvious decline in mental acuity why should the Republicans keep him as a candidate!!
You people should be ashamed for even suggesting this. Making the words a banner for this video. Not when it's a choice between living freely or being subjected to political imprisonment.
But it isn't a choice between those things.
@@M_Pross exactly. And which one is most attractive.
CNN needs to never monitor a debate higher than dog catcher
Yet, this was the best moderated debate heretofore.
No interruptions, no cheering for stupid catchphrases. repetition of questions.
@@benjamingoldstein9156wrong!
@@benjamingoldstein9156 small hat script.
Lol what does that have to do with anything? This isn’t CNN’s fault. The guy is a walking carcass. He literally doesn’t know where he is half the time. This isn’t about stuttering or bad speech. This is way beyond that. Biden can hardly think. Why would you not replace him?
If the democrats stick with this guy, there is no question they will lose this campaign. Everyone knows Trump’s lies and criminal activity do nothing to prevent him from being elected.
Biden is literally gone. He is hardly capable of walking. Let alone thinking. Just put in another candidate. There is nothing shameful about that.
So you’re mad they weren’t more slanted to Biden? Moderators are supposed to be biased and argue with the one they don’t like? Is that how democracy is saved?😂
I agree with the professor. I never wavered. Joe, even with a bad debate performance, is still the best candidate to run against trump. Four months is a long time. This is going to blow over. In a week no one will be talking about replacing him.
replacing the incumbent president is pure foolishness
Biden is a walking vegetable. Trump didn't just win the debate he destroyed Biden. Getting sick of these fools telling everybody that Biden's doing such a great job when people are experiencing the job he's doing financially
Running an incumbent in the 30s for approval rating is pure foolishness
cnn Trump Biden = zionists!
CALLING THAT BIDEN SHOULD STEP DOWN IS A STRATEGY TO MAKE TRUMP WIN. THINK ABOUT IT WHO IS REALLY DO THE CALLING, ITS THE MEDIA AND NOT THE VOTERS!
BIDEN AND HIS PARTY NEED TO IGNORE THE NOISE OF STEPPING DOWN. DO NOT COWER OR BOW TO THESE PEOPLE. BE UNITED IN VOICE AND ACTION!!!
🚨 BIDEN SHOULD NOT STEP DOWN!!!🚨
@@bradeb09 maybe but Trump also has a 30s approval rating and is far more controversial (oh and don't forgt abt the 40 felonies)
We should replace YOU, CNN
It wasn’t just one night. He’s been doing these strange behaviours for 18 months now
He's an older man. But he's doing great work. And he works for the PEOPLE of the US. As unlike Trump as he can be. Honest, heartfelt, knowledgeable, unafraid of reading and talking to experts who give their honest opinion, not what they thing he wants. And he is standing AGAINST Putin, whom Trump gets hot for.
Putin invaded Ukraine under obama and dork brandon, not Trump
Was biden being honest and heartfelt when he sponsored the 93 crime bill?
When he said his uncle was eaten by cannibals
Or when he said no troops have died under his admin
That the border patrol endorsed him?
Whixh behaviors? Are you still on the trumf drugs?
Actually... for several years, not months.
@@sevresblue😂😂😂 hilarious, is this a satire account?
Remember Jimmy Carter, nearly 100 and has been building houses up to recently!
Where’s CNN of years ago?
Yeah, when they did news. This opinion format is a 🤡 show of 💩
That wasn't just a bad debate. It was an elder abuse crime scene.
Didn't Reagan develop dementia during his second term?
Dementia? You clearly don’t know history. Eisenhower spent much of his first term in the actual hospital, FDR died 1 yr of being elected a 3rd time during WWII, Kennedy was struggling to even stand. I can go on. You’re weak af. Biden 2024!
Biden is still in his first term
It wasn't diagnosed until 1994, so yea he probably started showing signs in the last year or so. Maybe longer. It depends how slow or fast his progression was. He was out of office 5 years when he was diagnosed.
Wilson was debilitated by a stroke for 2 years. The first lady was defacto potus. Roosevelt hid his paralysis. Kennedy and Addisons.
Yes. Lived through it when I was in college. Supposedly, that's why Bush and Bill Barr pulled the plug on the Iran Contra investigations and prosecutions. Bit more so that roads were leading to Bush.... So we invaded Nicaragua and Iraq. It's the republican way.
The reason that this debate is deferent is because it wasn’t about policy. It was about age and mental competence. There is no historical precedent.
BULLSHIT....Only if YOU made it that way. I heard over 30 LIES from Trump......THAT MATTERS. I did hear Biden refute the Trump lies and talk about his accomplishments with TRUTH. I'll take an honest guy who has achieved so much in less than 4 years compared to a lying convicted felon who wants to be a dictator.
Trump has his own problems that you need to be concerned with.
Yea but people will forget about the debate by the time the election comes.
@@TheOpinionSports doubt it
@@MarkSmithhhh they will watch. The further we get away from it the more people will forget
Stuart Stevens is ignoring the change. You can’t just think things will stay the same. The pitcher can no longer pitch the ball. You remove them.
Yes, I heard that professor talk about the variables as if Biden is a regular candidate, when he's anything but, the same goes for Trump.
What change??? I think President Biden was surprised that CNN was letting Trump spout nothing but lies. It surprised me (not that Trump lied, but that CNN didn't call him on any of his lies). CNN only let Biden talk about 10 minutes the rest of the time they gave to Trump. Did you notice that Trump didn't even answer most of the questions?
Trump never said he'd accept the results if he didn't win. And Trump wouldn't say that violence is not the answer.
President Biden is doing the job and he's doing a great job. He has a lot of great plans to help the American people in his second term and I believe in him.
4 more years!!!
Fact. Things are different. It wasn't a bad debate, it was proof of a bad brain. Sad but true.
The CNN show was not a debate based on the rules of a high school debate. Trump made no substantiated assertions. Biden broght assertions and facts. If a debater lies during a debate that is grounds for disqualification. I think Biden had too many accomplishments to remember in 2 minute segments. Trump could simply say what ever popped into his head without having to support with facts.
Exactly!
I completely agree
Biden lied his ass off in the debate.....you do know that right? Check CNN fact checks on both of them
Biden lied his butt off in the debate, go check the fact checks of the debate, every statistic he lied about.
Biden couldn't put a coherent sentence together. The whole world saw that he is in the late stages of senile dementia. I've seen this in so many elderly relatives and lived through two generations of it in my immediate family. I'll be shocked if he lives two more years. It's sad but nature is cruel.
Biden's biggest accomplishment is allowing 20 million illegals into the U.S., and then giving them free housing, free food, free healthcare, free transportation, free cloting, free schooling, etc.., and using billion$ of America's tax dollar$ to do it with. On President Trump's last day in office, gasoline was $1.96 a gallon in Illinois. It's around $3.50 a gallon. When Trump was in office, the U.S. was the #1 producer of oil, and the U.S. Petroleum Reserves were filled to the brim. It didn't take long for Biden to give away 60% of that oil to other countries, including China.
Didja notice how the pundits LITERALLY turned the discussion into a sportsball debate, just as Lichtman accused them of?
Technically, it was Biden who challenged Trump to golf...In fact, this isn't the first time Joe has challenged Trump to some sort of physical competition to prove his "manhood".
@jaobidan2358 I fail to see how this "technically" matters. The pundits decided to focus on the golfing thing. Lichtman described punditry as no different than sportscaster TV, and they go and make it literal.
@@SuStel It does b/c Biden has a habit of trying to "prove" himself by challenging his opponent. Very much like his "two step shuffle" to make people like you think he's...spry.
Forget those stupid ridiculous polls and they should be abolished the poll that matters is election day
The cope is off the charts.
What else is left to do😂
Left has always been known for being mental gymnasts and they are making lots of 🥨.
Pedojoes cultists are so scared right now. 😂😂😂
@@darthmalagus Joe doesn't have cultists. Keep projecting
You kids with your slang, as if that compensates for lack of wisdom and worldly experience or knowledge.
CNN gave all those lies credibility.
@raycallie637
What were the 5 worst lies?
@@BudTuggly69 no troops died under my watch
seniors wont pay more than 200 dollars a year for medications
the border patrol endorsed me
i dont want to pick all five lets let someone else jump in - those were just my favs
@@GrizzlyHillsRadio And Biden was completely unable to capitalize on those absurd softballs, because he cannot string ten words together into a coherent sentence.
So we have the election of the incompetent vs. the unconscionable. And when anyone suggests putting in a candidate who isn't in the terminal phase of senile dementia we get "That's crazy talk!"
This is the guy who always gets it right. I don't like her condescending look and attitude
I thought she brought up great points, but it was refreshing to hear both guests speak their point of view in such a thoughtful and compelling way. It really didn't come across as condenscending to me. Just speaking from her perspective and perhaps finding it surprising to hear that this wasn't a big deal.
It's alright if some democrats have been in a bit of a panic. I think it's totally understandable, but it will subside. The whole debate debacle has probably brought a lot more attention to the presidential race than usual, particularly for folks who don't normally follow politics.
It's become widely 'memed' and I don't think that's going to help Joe Biden's campaign. However, I do hope that the 2nd debate still happens, and I'm expecting we'll see Biden perform much better.
9 out of 10 is far from perfect. In chess, less than 95% accuracy makes you lose the game.
I get in a standard sense the benchmarks guest is bringing up, but this is a unique case. If you get out of your bubble and talk to moderates, he lost faith in people. We all saw with our eyes in real time a man suffering from cognitive decline. Dems need to turn to plan b. As a lifelong dem, I’m telling you…it came off that bad. I don’t love everything Newsom has done, but I think having a good looking man in his 50s speaking coherently will be a breath of fresh air and may shift the momentum.
@@warrenginmartiniAl Gore won.
Alan Lichtman is right!
Who is on their A-game every day of their life? NO ONE!!! Reporter, I see your body language and your negativity!
Not on their a-game? OK Dyatlov.
I am not in favor of Biden stepping down. He should be honored for leading the country successfully into prosperity, not judged based on his current state on a single day. It's important to remember that he is surrounded by a great team of carefully selected people who diligently do their jobs. Therefore, it's short-sighted and wrong to consider Biden's health as the determining factor. In the event that Biden is unable to continue due to health reasons, Vice President Kamala Harris is highly competent to serve as an interim president. Hence, this should be the only option considered, and no removal process should be initiated, which carries many risks, including the possibility that a proposed younger candidate would not have enough time to become well-known and accepted.
There's a huge difference between losing a debate, and demonstrating that your mind is completely gone 😂😂
As a 29 year old myself and someone who would give 10 minute talks at my job, I can confirm that memorizing talking points is not an easy thing to do at any age, and it doesn't necessarily mean someone is "losing their mind" it could mean they were sleepy, especially given Biden's fiery speech the following morning.
@@adimart2214 It's not a matter of talking points. Did you watch the debate? Biden literally looked like he was in the terminal phase of Creutzfeld-Jakob disease.
@@brucetucker4847 I myself had moments like that too, and that was despite practicing my speech for over a week, most of my speeches in front of the audience of about 120 people were great and fine but I once also froze on the platform and had to stop altogether and came down. It happens. Fetterman also froze mid debate vs Oz and still defeated him in a landslide in Pennsylvania by almost 400,000 votes only 2 years ago. And considering Trumpty Dumpty is far more hated than a Mehmet Oz who was loved by everyone on TV just be ready to lose again is all I'm saying because it's less about the person himself and more about the man's character. lol Oz was perceived as a dirt wad while Fetterman was perceived as a good human being. I believe this election will come down to that as well and the name calling, saying Brandon, and talking about retribution, talking about pardoning felons, etc just sealed Trump's defeat with independents.
@@brucetucker4847 Your statement proves your incompetence, or at least you are exaggerating, just like the orange self-proclaimed "stable" genius. And by the way, it's spelled Creutzfeldt.
@@adimart2214your making excuses. Biden is done. If he’s the candidate, he’s getting wrecked in November 😂
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮TRUMP IS IN MUCH WORSE SHAPE
Like Bill Maher said, "I'd vote for Biden if he was just a head in a jar of blue liquid. It's time to get the jar."
LOL......Republicans are going to be soooo mad on NOV 5th.......Remember conman Dr OZ vs stroke victim Fetter-man that could not finish a sentence....They laughed on debate night and cried on election night !!!
Bill Mohron
"Trump humps the flag. I want Joe Biden to fuck it." - Bil Maher.
Bill is a national and even worldwide treasure
@@toni6379 Bill certainly is coming across as a bit 'deuchy' more and more lately. But I still love the guy. I'd love him a lot more if he wasn't so ego centric though.
We finally beat Medicare.😂😂
Sad but also funny
President Biden knows that Hannibal Lector is a fictional character 😅
And that is really the sad part when Trump keeps admiring Hannibal Lector. Is that someone he want to mirror 😮?
Yeah but he doesn't remember the beginning of any sentence he's trying to fin8sh
@@GettingSchwiftyy Y3ah, but h3 als0 doe$n't put numb3rs in h1s s3ntences.
I don't think so
Biden also thought his poor uncle was eaten by cannibals.
@CNN You were supposed to fact check and didn’t. Now you say Biden should drop out. This is a hatchet job.
It's almost like people view the debate like an entertainment show, like Dancing With The Stars. The one who is loudest and most obnoxious wins? A presidency does not rest on one debate!
You’re absolutely right. Trump turned politics into a reality show. It has villains, saints, sex, drugs and bribery. That’s what he has turned our elections into, popularity contests.
The presidency shouldn’t rest on one debate, but when you’re 82 years old, walk stiff as a board, can’t link two sentences together without getting lost, stand defenseless with your mouth open, and can’t end a sentence with punctuation but instead end your sentence by fading off in volume, it rests on one debate.
Joe Biden didn’t look like he could do 4 more months, let alone four more years.
Trump didn’t win the debate because of his arguments or facts, he won because Biden’s brain malfunctioned.
Trump is an acknowledged Reality TV LIAR - He has lied consistently since he learned to talk.
You’re right but it showed for the first time that Biden is mentally not capable of running the country another 4 years let alone answer questions coherently on a live debate
The first debate confirms what most people knew... Biden is senile, and can't lead himself off a stage, much less, lead a country.
Is this a real historian or some political hack? Yes, Reagan was 73 in 1984 when he got asked about age during the debate, but please watch that debate again and compare how confidently Reagan speaks and answers versus how Biden was in his debate. I can't take this historian seriously after this, does he think he can gaslight me and others, that we don't have ears and eyes of our own?
@@CircusOfValues-BH486There’s one thing you and this University Professor haven’t accounted for. Our understanding of phenomena in science can change over time. This guy has successfully identified 13 keys that determine the Presidency. However, this doesn’t mean they are the ONLY keys that may exist. As the OP said, mental acuity hasn’t been a serious concern in Presidential candidates since Ronald Reagan, and he effectively diffused them while Biden did the opposite.
@@CircusOfValues-BH486 *than
@@CircusOfValues-BH486 Which happened after the 1984 debate, but even if you think he was a fool before, it doesn't matter.
For example: Key 9 of this model checks for a scandal, but to qualify, the recognition must be bipartisan. Popular perception is what matters, not our personal opinions.
@@dauntless0711 except the keys model has stood the test of time despite major societal and cultural changes. Lichtman has applied the keys to elections in the 1800's where there were no people of colour or women voting and they still stayed the same. 5 or more false keys meant defeat.
@@CircusOfValues-BH486 I've never even left this Country. For you to reject my being an American over petty politics is incredibly insulting and bigoted. There's nothing wrong with valuing the opinions of experts over laymen, but no one is infallible. You have a clear confirmation bias that stunts your ability to consider other possibilities. We'll see in November, won't we?
Old people don't understand how other old people aren't as young as they were 2 years ago.
Shocking.
CNN viewers don't understand that CNN lies to them worse now (covering up Biden's senility up until the debate & TEN Palestinian children per day having amputations with no anesthesia which makes CNN a terrorist organization) than it did 2 years ago. The worse CNN's ratings get, the worse they lie to support EVIL & a zombie president.
I understand what you are trying to say. I couldn’t understand what Biden was trying to say. It’s what the 51 million of Americans saw when they watched the debate.
@@P4DR They did understand that practically everything that Trump said was a lie in that debate
@@P4DR then you’ve got some cognitive issues of your own.
Fact is Trump has gotten older.
I stand with President Joe Biden to November 5th and beyond! Alan Lichtman is awesome and so intelligent. I'm glad he took control of his interview and told the commentator to let him finish. CNN commentators are awful!
I love political guys like this that study the history of politics, but in this case I don't think his approach is going to work. We've never had a sitting president appear that unwell in a presidential debate, not even close. Study history or you're bound to repeat it, but this situation is fully unique.
Ronald Reagan
@@erikduchamp512 Go watch Reagan's debates in 1984, they were nothing remotely like this. You need to get past your own bias.
VOTE BLUE 💙 IF YOU LOVE AMERICA
Vote RED to Save America.
Elder abuse
Exactly! One night, in a debate (which has nothing to do with being in office), does NOT mean Biden isn't capable of performing Presidential duties.
Bill Kristol is exactly the definition of a "spineless democrat".
Bailing on Biden over a bad debate is ludicrous.
It's not just "One bad debate" man, Biden is literally a cadaver. He's very clearly not cut out for another 4 years in office. There are people the democratic party could put forward that would absolutely demolish trump, in a debate or polling or otherwise. The fact that they haven't points further towards the absolutely pathetic rot that has taken over the democratic party.
This hasn’t just been “One night”.He’s actually been doing it during his entire presidency.The fact that Trump decided to go to the wolf’s den and do this debate.He knew that Biden would just self destruct.Biden can’t even come down a set of 3 stairs without help and you want him to perform presidential duties?
I am sorry to say that your opinions are quite silly. Biden has been a poor performer multiple times in front of cameras. To deny such facts shows pure indoctrinated ignorance. I agree that Biden still has the ability to think, but visual perception is also a very important part of being a leader. We are not talking about a CEO, or a business manager here. The leader of the Free World needs to be absolutely switched on and coherent, with strong messaging. Biden has no such ability anymore. It is a shame, because I know he is good man. Continue to defend him, and you 100% have Trump as the next President. No chance in hell Biden will win.
Absolutely!!!
Kristol is NOT a Democrat.
I am so livid with CNN and the Main strea media I have donated to Joe Biden's campagin for the first time. They really want to SELECT another dem nominee and igore the will of the people who have already voted to make Joe Biden the nominee.
They voted in an "election" with one candidate. That's a Putin election.
73 and 81. They're the same thing obviously. Most American males DIE around 80 years old is a fact. Surely there are hundreds, if not thousands of Americans who can do a great job as President. The problem is the system of choosing candidates - not a lack of qualified candidates.
Edit: My 73 vs 81 comment is about the pundit comparing Biden at 81 to Reagan (re-elected) at 73. It is sarcasm. My apologies for the ambiguity but I was commenting on the video - not making a comparison to Trump.
You mean 78 and 81. Skipping Trump has family history of dementia and probably why he never answers policy questions: he can't.
Trump is 78.
Not 73.
Admittedly, 3s and 8s look a lot alike.
Ya , like Trumpet!
@@futureglobal7258old Fart !
The problem is not many people will turn up to vote for someone who doesn't inspire them
Bingo! Elections are won on enthusiasm. If you walked away at the end of the debate saying, “ya baby!” You have a winner. If you walk away from the debate saying the opponent did bad too, you’re overlooking that you have a loser.
Joe Biden is now a guaranteed loser
There can be unintended consequences--we can work harder for Biden to win. Do like some of the MAGA's---PRAY for Biden. Think good thoughts. And unfortunately, we can't replace him unless he chooses to surrender his delegates
A vote against Trump is enough inspiration
Does inspire them??
An 82 year old dementia patient breaks sweat trying to secure a chance to work for another 4 years in the world's most stressful job - what can be more inspiring than that?? It's like Helen Keller determines to become a sniper. The sheer will power is awe-striking.
If that is the case, we don't deserve a democracy. You vote to the best of your understanding because it's your duty as a citizen. It may sound old fashioned but it's true. You have a duty to your democracy, as broken as it is, it's better than an autocracy. Ask the Russian men...oh, yah, you can't, they've mostly died in a stupid war. Ask the women of Russia who have gas lines exploding in their cities because there is no maintenance available...and they just found out they lost their husband. A "strong man" leader is a catastrophe. If you elect Diaper Don, you deserve everything you get. It won't turn out well.
The debates never work anyway; at the end of the day people just have to vote!
It used to, as it was one of only few major sources of information (unedited, uncut and without a doubt) to gage and understand the person they would eventually nominate.
However, the people that used to watch it in the day were more genuine American citizens, not citizens through amnesty, citizens through pathway to permanency or citizens through family reunion schemes etc.
@@crxdelsolsir I think you're right that the debates used to be more highly regarded by the average voter. But I don't think we should underestimate the power of social media when clips become memes and the memes go viral.
CALLING THAT BIDEN SHOULD STEP DOWN IS A STRATEGY TO MAKE TRUMP WIN. THINK ABOUT IT WHO IS REALLY DO THE CALLING, ITS THE MEDIA AND NOT THE VOTERS!
BIDEN AND HIS PARTY NEED TO IGNORE THE NOISE OF STEPPING DOWN. DO NOT COWER OR BOW TO THESE PEOPLE. BE UNITED IN VOICE AND ACTION!!!
🚨 BIDEN SHOULD NOT STEP DOWN!!!🚨
Elections never work anyway; at the end of the day the MIC, AIPAC, & Big Pharma run the country regardless of elections. Let's not pretend America is a functioning democracy.
This was more than a bad debate…the idea that people are going to simply forget about it is ludicrous.
I'll take an older man with character, experience and working for the will of the people, over and authoritarian narcissist who does not give a sh it about anything but himself. If you vote, it might be the last time you get to vote if you vote for Trump!!!!
Yawn.
Florida didn't get to have a Primary vote - thanks dnc
dork brandon has no character, he eulogized robert byrd and woudn't let corn pop in a public pool
doesn't hang a Christmas stocking for his grandchild
his wife called me a taco...
Koufax analogy is garbage. Koufax retired bc his arm hurt beyond belief and he said he wanted to be able to use his arm for the remainder of his life like holding his children. Biden is not complaining of a headache. He just had 1 bad night
Neither does my granddad, but he still has dementia.
Koufax never had a single game as bad as that.
When the opposing team bats around the order twice in the first inning, you pull the pitcher, even if it's Sandy Koufax.
I am a Canadian always respected him over Trump.
But Thursday I was very concerned he was showing signs of Dementia.
I think he should step aside.
Retirement with dignity.
It was very sad to watch from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦.
Why didn't CNN tell Trump to answer the questions instead of rambling off topic and lies. Biden was nursing a cold, he showed up and answered the questions and didnt lie. GIVE THE MAN A BREAK
90 minutes of Biden sore throat on the debate will not change anything on my side, I will judge him by his 3 years and half handwork.
A lot of people will be drop out of their job anytime they have sore throat like JoBiden.
lmao
Kool-aid drinker right here. Saw plain as day Biden in a lost state of mind and is fooled into thinking it was just a "sore-throat" lol
Sore throats don't make you mumble and not be able to complete a sentence.
You’re willing to side with a man in obvious mental decline than choose a better candidate? You’re handed this election away, and I’m okay with that. Let’s check back in November.
@@youmadbro4809Biden won the debate. He just didn’t sound as good. He answered the questions factually, while trump evaded and liedz
Biden's public speech after the (time-limited response) debate was on fire and much stronger. Drumpf's habitual lying and exaggerations occur anywhere and everywhere. I'm (once again) voting for Kamala Harris (and yes Joe Biden).
You're being immature
Joe is Barry's puppet. As I type these words Barry and his democrat best buddies are looking for a new puppet. It ain't easy to find a better puppet than Joe, senile, corrupt, with Dr. Jill ready to push him 24/7. Then who? Kamala, ok, get serious here. Gavin, great hair but probably not a great puppet. Big Mike, maybe, but the USA isn't ready for a TS gurl POTUS. Buttijudge, possible, he and Barry have a lot in common.
@@dtaylor939 I bet your dad can beat up his dad too.
@@dtaylor939 And you're being vague and/or using a different term than what you really meant. "Immature" regarding what?
Will Biden be on your voting ballet? Not likely