Just to keep everyone interested up to date, last Jan 14 I trashed the "Bogong". I took off late behind the rocks at Schnapper Rocks GC on a 6' dredger & drove her into the bottom, agghhh...the results were 2 major splits length wise down the board, (imagine an axe splitting a piece of wood), she filled up with water an nearly sank, but the buoyancy of the timber kept her afloat, not sure if i'll repair, easier to make a new 1 i think & hang the "Bogong" on the wall. Needless to say I am missing it, it went soooo good.
Ah ha, now i can finish mine. Thanks for the last part of my puzzle, i have been wondering how to stop the possibility of a heal through the deck. But you showed me your secret, and i must thankyou for that split second. I should have my first one finally finished soon. 🤙
@@aaronhopkins6697 yeah I used Gorilla glue (or similar polyurethane expandable glue) to join pieces after chambering.... but the foam that I used inside to fill the voids was that spray expandable foam but don't use that stuff as I found if you get a leak it will absorb the water and makes it really hard to drain. Plugs, boxes and nose/tail tips I use epoxy putty, plus this board has an oil/wax finish. ✌🏼🙂
@DeepCreekTV awesome 🤙. I was thinking of doing ten millimetre deck , and six mill on the bottom and not filling it with anything. Just offset the chambers, also thanks for your idea on the long chambers as mine were only around eight inches each but I love the idea of having them longer to take out that extra weight. When I got to the stage I'm at with mine now , I started having a weird recurring dream that when I put it in the water and started paddling out, the board went like soggy cardboard, and then just all fell apart as I got to everyone in the line-up. But your video has reinvigorated me to get it out and finish it off. Green love from Queensland Australia 💚🌲🌏🤙
Gotta admit, that was a great video, and very informative on building and shaping a "wood chambered surfboard" that has got me jonsing for a bit of crafting myself.........!
I am building one of these. I just picked up my wood. I'll be making a video of it so you can see what I've done as well. I tried building a wooden board the other way with limited success. I believe this way is one of the best. I don't know why more people don't build boards this way out of different materials.
Could you make one out of balsa wood and chamber/hollow out the surfboard the same way. Also, could the surfboard be shaped into an extra wide mini simmons shaped surfboard.
Wow I love how you screwd it together. Great idea. The one I made a few years back I glued and cut it apart to chamber but had to allow the saw kerf to in the overall width so once it was cut it would be back at my dimensions. This was a huge hassle. I've been thinking of making another so thanks for the video got me inspired
Thanks a million, mate! I just finished my first chambered surfboard. Thank you for putting up this video. I followed it step by step without stealing your "secrets" and my board came out beautiful and surfs like a dream!
nearly finished the board I started last winter, what a great project and has got me keen to do another out of some better wood. Would love to see a video of you actually shaping as all I could find was foam boards being done. I know same principles but the amount of time to do each step was greater. Cheers for the inspiration.
Shane, Polyester or epoxy clear filler, though epoxy bonds better than poly. Just brush it on just like paint, 2 coats, with epoxy do a second coat when first is tacky, this saves sanding between coats. Wet & dry sand then polish, personally I like the Oil finish, J.
no mate Not an overload of info, appreciate it. There is a mob near me on the Mornington Peninsula, they are associated with Grain timber surfboards from the US..... Classes are very expensive, I've got the plans and rocker shapes, will have a crack myself.. If they bugger up, back to the shed...lol
very clever, thanks for sharing. I have looked through your posts but I cannot see any info regarding the foam you briefly show, my guess its the spray on plumbers/builders gap filling foam?
guysoceanharmonics interesting you have asked about that...it was something I tried but with minimal success, yes it was expandable foam but I only filled the center 4 chambers, the results were if I had filled it completely it would've made the board 500gms heavier, also its porous so any leaking problems would have made it harder to drain.
Great video. Really inspired me to have a go myself .Dont know weather I could get hold of such an exotic wood in South Wales.will have to explore alternatives.Any suggestions ?
5kg with fins & boxes, strength wise much stronger than foam/fiberglass, it comes down to how thick u leave the chambers so the thicker the heavier, ( 6mm on bottom 8mm on deck seems about right) i did damage the deck on this board with impact from my knee but easily repaired with araldite or similar, weight can be an issue for some but I'm finding the extra weight gives u plenty of inertia, also you can paint 2 coats of resin (no cloth) then wet/dry & polish if u like, adds about 300gms
This is so exciting. I’m in the US, and found some pauwlonia at a local saw mill. I bought a bunch of it, as it was the only tree the sawyer had ever had. The most exciting board is 10’ x 2.5’ x 2”, with the pith running right down the center. I’m wondering if I could use waterproof PVA glue, specifically Titebond III. any advice?
Hi mate thanks for the feedback..... when I made this video 10 yrs ago I was using ProBox , I'm using Gearbox now. Here's part 2 of a 3 part series on how I put them in a wood wrap board. The technique is very much the same as I would for a chambered board. Hope this helps you 🙂 ruclips.net/video/UuTDAvFIf0o/видео.html
Hey John great video mate, its Matt B from up the road. Couldnt believe when your face popped up haha been thinkking about making my own, might have to come have a look one day
u use 1 rocker template firstly, then after cambering the board & before u glue up u can take another 2 templates 1/3 the distance between the center & rail, u then end up with 3 templates. This can reduce the amount of timber & cost needed on next board. athough this can be restricting especially if u want to change the shape to improve performance. I like to draw up a outline shape on concrete first then do the maths using the rocker & outline templates as guides, (hope this all makes sense).
I use polyurethane foaming glue although i have used epoxy glue before, i just find the epoxy tends to stain the timber & is a bit harder to sand. I have met other board builders who don't like polyurethane foaming glue as they feel its not strong enough & its not water tight but i haven't had any of these probs as yet.
+DeepCreekTV Thank you so much for this video, I am making a board as a project for school, and i am going to make it from this video! But I was wondering whet templates you used and where you got them from!
Carlo Tag Hi Carlo, yes I'll do a custom...but as you can imagine lots of work so there a bit more expensive than your average board. If your keen post me a message to my inbox & we'll talk off line. Cheers.
There's no right or wrong way in any of this but with the aid of a CNC machine this may be possible. I reckon a method to do this by hand would be a very serious mathematical / construction challenge, too much for me to work out.
Hello, awesome video. I planing on building a 7"4 egg board and i was wondering where did you get your pawlaunia wood? I cant found any that is 40mm thick. I live in Northern California if anyone else has some lead on where to get pawlaunia this please let me know. Thanks a lot.
You might also try western red cedar because it's light, rot resistent, and reasonable to find in your area. Redwood is a smidge lighter, but I think it might be a bit more expensive and hard to locate as well. Good luck!
Hey bud! You inspired me to build my own board for kite surfing :) I'm a boat builder in the french alps! For the fins, would leaving some meat where the you put the mounts? And could you make the wood thinner? Thank you so much for you great videos! You're doing a awesome content! Cheers from France :)
Hi Yes leave some solid wood where you are planning to put fins. You can go thinner but you will sacrifice strength... but if you were planning to glass it should be OK, I'm not sure I've never gone any thinner. As it's a kite board I'd suggest you glass it with at least 6oz cloth but if you were thinking of a oil finish I'd leave it solid, no Chambers. I'm not a kite boarder but I'd assume there would be plenty of forces on the board.
Hi, nice vid. I'm making a 1:3 scale surfboard and going to try do the cloth on it today with the resin. I've seen vids where they fold the cloth around the side but I'm not sure what to do with the gap underneath, just let it go hard and fill up with cloth in the middle or leave it only with resin? TY
Chihiro Mikoto well Im no expert at glassing, but I'll give it a shot. after you wrap the rails & the resin cures you need to reduce that lump that's left, the edge of the cloth. You can either carefully sand this as not to damage unglassed gap as you call it, or flatten it with a roller ( I'm presuming its a foam/fiberglass board) or mix up a small amount of resin & paint it along side that edge then sand smooth when dry. you need to eliminate this because when you do another coat as you did before it will leave air bubble along that join.
DeepCreekTV Thanks for trying, I still don't know how to really do this but I've decided to skip the whole cloth thing. I was talking about the opening the cloth leaves on the upper side but it's hard to find out how many times they use the cloth why do their boards all look hard already. I've made the board out of foam and every video I find is when the board is already hard and the fold the cloth over the edge. I never see anything how they treat the foam directly to make it hard.
Chihiro Mikoto try this link, its on wood but gives you an idea, sounds like you only need one layer top & bottom , ruclips.net/video/h-vzAtPGI44/видео.html good luck
You rock! I love all the quirky video edits you went out of you way to include. Any lessons learned on chambering? you showed some long chambers here, have you ever had one break? I'm building a balsa blank for a 5'11'' egg shape, this vid is super helpful. how did you seal this stick, resin or ? Last question (assuming you respond) what kind of glue did you use to put the strips together? I've heard you should use epoxy and not glue, i'd love to use glue if i could. Do you have a preference?
Thanks for the wrap.... this board was badly cracked earlier this year 8-( , got hammered on a serious wave, see earlier post below, but I feel any board would have been damaged/snapped had it been in the same position. i have shortened the chambers on a new board i'm working on & Im leaving a little bit more solid timber in nose area. I seal boards with wax & oils, & I use polyurethane foaming glue. One positive thing about trashing the board was discovering the glue held up & the actual timber split, just make sure you lightly wet the timber pre gluing, instructions are on bottle, but Im not sure how well it works on balsa? but i think it will be OK as you'll need to fiberglass if using balsa as its porous. Good luck..
+Mike King no secrets Mike, the chambered models are not really a commercial product, very expensive although if ya want one i'll make it, a little heavier than a standard glass but perform quite well, depends on what ya wanna do on a wave really.....an importantly, they float....!
When you shape the blank how do miss the screws without having to take them out and have loose pieces? You've got me really excited to try make one of these
+Kenny Robert when screwing start at 2nd piece from rail and work towards the center of blank screwing in the middle INSIDE of each piece , you then end up with 2 halves of blank, lightly glue together.
Inspiring video mate! I have been wanting to start my own board for a long time now! I think I am going to start this weekend.... do you know of any websites where I can find free rocker templates? or at least dimensions to draw out on a template board?
Michael Hilburn check out ruclips.net/video/7W--Lg6aa88/видео.html "how to make a surfboard rocker template" I dont know of any web sites but u could check out www.swaylocks.com/ someone on that blog may be able to help you. Also anybody using the AKU shaping softwear, it can design rocker & outline templates. www.akushaper.com/ hope that gets you on the path.
DeepCreekTV thanks for the advice. I downloaded a program (BoardCAD) and used their generic long board template, slightly modified to my needs. I bought some redwood this weekend and am GOING FOR IT! I am prepared to make lots of mistakes but feel pretty confident with all the videos, websites, and Instagram posters giving advice. But THIS video pushed me actually "bite the bullet" as we say here in the States! Are you on Instagram? check out my progress if you like! @mdhilburn
Hi, thanks for the informative video and hello from Israel! A quick question, what is the benefits of the stringer, if it is being chambered? Does it maintain the properties of a whole stringer?
Great Job, I would like to do one with my two kids during summer...just 1 question, I think I will try to find some Balsa (As I located in Portugal and don't believe I can purchase Paulownia wood...what should be the dimensions of the raw pieces of wood (I understood 2000mm long x ?? wide x ?? thick) Thanks
Benoit Giran thanks... I use 150mm X 40mm X the length of the board you would like, just remember if you need more rocker you may need 200mm wide or scarf/join a piece to accommodate nose rocker. You will need to glass balsa or varnish and that's all I know as I have never made a balsa model. Good luck 👍
Are those 2x6's? Been researching hollow wood boards for a while and have lofty dreams of turning into a (side?) career over the next 5-10 years as i learn and am stoked on coming across this chambered method. Probably heavier than the bead and cove/rib methods but having just bough my first home and being a broke ass !@#$, this is a great way to get started and learn to shape, etc. as well - already have the tools i need for this!
Awnex77 yes 2x6, & yes a little heavier than HWB, but remember....you will need more timber if chambering than a HWB. I agree with your comment "this is a great way to get started and learn to shape" & that's why I prefer the chambered method as you are shaping a board in the traditional way. I've just finished a new model "Cadaga" 6'x21" fish so I'm chomping at the bit to get in the water.... hope to post a clip soon.
What is the difference between giving a glass coat or a oil/resin coat? Why should I prefer the first one or the second one? Thank you for your awesome channel
Hi Claudio, the difference is weight and strength, if you glass with say 4oz cloth at a guess would add approximately 1kg+, if you paint on epoxy resin or vanish at a guess would add maybe 200 - 400 grams, if you oil it would add approximately 200 grams. All these finishes have pros and cons so it's what best suits you, cheers 🌞
No Mitch, Ive been using the "Pro Box" system & on their web page they have much info about installing boxes & their fin placement ideas. www.proboxfinsystems.com/pages/install_movie.html
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Just to keep everyone interested up to date, last Jan 14 I trashed the "Bogong". I took off late behind the rocks at Schnapper Rocks GC on a 6' dredger & drove her into the bottom, agghhh...the results were 2 major splits length wise down the board, (imagine an axe splitting a piece of wood), she filled up with water an nearly sank, but the buoyancy of the timber kept her afloat, not sure if i'll repair, easier to make a new 1 i think & hang the "Bogong" on the wall. Needless to say I am missing it, it went soooo good.
well I repaired the "bogong" and she's back in the water....I had too, she's a magic carpet & they don't come round often.
DeepCreekTV i found your video very useful in building my own board. would love to see another video. keep up the great work man.
Damn dude. Great video, great editing. That chambering technique is super cool.
Ah ha, now i can finish mine. Thanks for the last part of my puzzle, i have been wondering how to stop the possibility of a heal through the deck. But you showed me your secret, and i must thankyou for that split second. I should have my first one finally finished soon. 🤙
@@aaronhopkins6697 just don't use expandable spray foam... it absorbs water ✌🏼
@@DeepCreekTV cool, so is it a two part urethane ? Also is it best to use epoxy to glue it up, or is the gorilla glue the stuff to use ?
@@aaronhopkins6697 yeah I used Gorilla glue (or similar polyurethane expandable glue) to join pieces after chambering.... but the foam that I used inside to fill the voids was that spray expandable foam but don't use that stuff as I found if you get a leak it will absorb the water and makes it really hard to drain. Plugs, boxes and nose/tail tips I use epoxy putty, plus this board has an oil/wax finish. ✌🏼🙂
@DeepCreekTV awesome 🤙. I was thinking of doing ten millimetre deck , and six mill on the bottom and not filling it with anything. Just offset the chambers, also thanks for your idea on the long chambers as mine were only around eight inches each but I love the idea of having them longer to take out that extra weight.
When I got to the stage I'm at with mine now , I started having a weird recurring dream that when I put it in the water and started paddling out, the board went like soggy cardboard, and then just all fell apart as I got to everyone in the line-up.
But your video has reinvigorated me to get it out and finish it off. Green love from Queensland Australia 💚🌲🌏🤙
@@aaronhopkins6697 cheers mate thanks for the feedback 🤟🏼
Very nice, my next board project will be a chambered board.
Beautiful board. Thought it was going to be a twin with keels. But I can dig the quad. Yew!
jdm31181 funny u should say, the fins on this board morphed into rear keels with tiny side bites.
Sick, great video John.
Looks phenomenal , really good job mate.
Fantastic video mate...and thank you for taking the time to answer everyone's questions.
Gotta admit, that was a great video, and very informative on building and shaping a "wood chambered surfboard" that has got me jonsing for a bit of crafting myself.........!
thanks Erin....get jonsing !
I am building one of these. I just picked up my wood. I'll be making a video of it so you can see what I've done as well. I tried building a wooden board the other way with limited success. I believe this way is one of the best. I don't know why more people don't build boards this way out of different materials.
Stunning board mate
Thank you, god bless you for making this video. I love how you explained the process in the beginning. Very helpfull
.....by the way John, the shape is fantastic. Very well done.
Great tips and idea for a newbie.. thanks John
great work
GREAT VIDEO !
Could you make one out of balsa wood and chamber/hollow out the surfboard the same way. Also, could the surfboard be shaped into an extra wide mini simmons shaped surfboard.
@@thebentley71 sure you could use balsa although you would need to fiberglass coat as it's very pourus.... make it whatever shape you like ✌🏼🙂
Wow I love how you screwd it together. Great idea. The one I made a few years back I glued and cut it apart to chamber but had to allow the saw kerf to in the overall width so once it was cut it would be back at my dimensions. This was a huge hassle. I've been thinking of making another so thanks for the video got me inspired
Thanks a million, mate! I just finished my first chambered surfboard. Thank you for putting up this video. I followed it step by step without stealing your "secrets" and my board came out beautiful and surfs like a dream!
Cheers Jason, happy to help ☺
@@DeepCreekTV which wood glue do you use, would love to know!
@@electricskateboardhub8126 I mainly use polyurethane foaming glue and Epoxy putty for nose/tail tips, fin boxes and plugs.
Absolutely cool. great video!
Well done! Cheers!
Fabulous job and outcome!
nearly finished the board I started last winter, what a great project and has got me keen to do another out of some better wood. Would love to see a video of you actually shaping as all I could find was foam boards being done. I know same principles but the amount of time to do each step was greater. Cheers for the inspiration.
as you can appreciate making a board while also producing a video solo at the same time is massive amounts of work....maybe some time in the future.
Hi Roby M, I used Paulownia with a western red ceder stringer, cheers John.
Top notch Board!
Awesome Vid!
ripper board John true craftsmen
man. your videos are awesome. seriously informative and entertaining. really creative ideas man! (video content and video making!)
+Pepe Kedor Thanks Pepe.
Ahh that's awesome thanks for the help bro. Sick vid as well.
Parabéns, excelente trabalho!
Shane, Polyester or epoxy clear filler, though epoxy bonds better than poly. Just brush it on just like paint, 2 coats, with epoxy do a second coat when first is tacky, this saves sanding between coats. Wet & dry sand then polish, personally I like the Oil finish, J.
Amazing
Board looks beautiful. Is there only one template to get the rocker for all the strips?
very nice.
Hay que revelar los secretos dear!!!😉 Para poner en práctica su experiencia
so awesome!👍✌ I shape my own boards and build wooden kyacks but this is a little above my skill, man I want one! 👍✌🌞🌻
nice one!!
Great video loved it
The best I seen
Belo trabalho!... :)
no mate
Not an overload of info, appreciate it. There is a mob near me on the Mornington Peninsula, they are associated with Grain timber surfboards from the US..... Classes are very expensive, I've got the plans and rocker shapes, will have a crack myself.. If they bugger up, back to the shed...lol
awesome mate
that board looks great, I'd hang it in my wall to nice to use, Ha!!!!!
continue and make more videos!
very clever, thanks for sharing. I have looked through your posts but I cannot see any info regarding the foam you briefly show, my guess its the spray on plumbers/builders gap filling foam?
guysoceanharmonics interesting you have asked about that...it was something I tried but with minimal success, yes it was expandable foam but I only filled the center 4 chambers, the results were if I had filled it completely it would've made the board 500gms heavier, also its porous so any leaking problems would have made it harder to drain.
Solid
Great video. Really inspired me to have a go myself .Dont know weather I could get hold of such an exotic wood in South Wales.will have to explore alternatives.Any suggestions ?
Thanks....I'm not too sure, you need something light with a tight grain, what do they use for boat building , could be a good place to start.
Very beautiful board! I want myself to do the same board! How to become your apprentice!))
5kg with fins & boxes, strength wise much stronger than foam/fiberglass, it comes down to how thick u leave the chambers so the thicker the heavier, ( 6mm on bottom 8mm on deck seems about right) i did damage the deck on this board with impact from my knee but easily repaired with araldite or similar, weight can be an issue for some but I'm finding the extra weight gives u plenty of inertia, also you can paint 2 coats of resin (no cloth) then wet/dry & polish if u like, adds about 300gms
Good job
Nice video.... Could I make a chambered 9 footer out of pine or or would be too heavy? Cheers
+Juan Giesecke you can, not sure how heavy though.
This is so exciting. I’m in the US, and found some pauwlonia at a local saw mill. I bought a bunch of it, as it was the only tree the sawyer had ever had. The most exciting board is 10’ x 2.5’ x 2”, with the pith running right down the center.
I’m wondering if I could use waterproof PVA glue, specifically Titebond III. any advice?
I have only used Titebond lll on wood wraps but I understand it does work well on chambered models, I usually use Polyurethane foaming glue.
Awesome video! But can you show more of how you put in your finboxes and the resine u use and how u do it?
Hi mate thanks for the feedback..... when I made this video 10 yrs ago I was using ProBox , I'm using Gearbox now. Here's part 2 of a 3 part series on how I put them in a wood wrap board. The technique is very much the same as I would for a chambered board. Hope this helps you 🙂
ruclips.net/video/UuTDAvFIf0o/видео.html
That helps alot! Thank u!
Hey John great video mate, its Matt B from up the road. Couldnt believe when your face popped up haha been thinkking about making my own, might have to come have a look one day
+SLUSHPIT PRODUCTIONS no excuses Matt, get to it. ur welcome to drop in.
Thanks!
John you need a profiler!
hey !! so nice video , Im going show guys from brazil
Hello! amazing video! Which wood type did you use? Balsa or anyone else?
Thanks
Roby
u use 1 rocker template firstly, then after cambering the board & before u
glue up u can take another 2 templates 1/3 the distance between the center
& rail, u then end up with 3 templates. This can reduce the amount of
timber & cost needed on next board. athough this can be restricting especially if u
want to change the shape to improve performance. I like to draw up a
outline shape on concrete first then do the maths using the rocker &
outline templates as guides, (hope this all makes sense).
and we perhaps get a video specifically on the sealing of the board afterwards?
Here's a Insta post I did a few years ago, bees wax, gum and tung oil.... hope that helps ✌🏼🙂
instagram.com/p/B_tpGUIpy4x/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@@DeepCreekTV just bought these ingredients. been doing my homework cant wait to try it!
@@Dogface1984 cool....put a few thin coats of raw tung oil on first before you apply the polish ✌🏼🙂
@@DeepCreekTVthanks for the tip brother 🤙🏽 🏄🏽♂️
Also how is it strength wise without the glass on it? Sorry I'm planning to do a chambered build but there's hardly any info on it.
thanks John,fantastic. what type of glue do you use on the final steps putting it all back together after chambering, and
I use polyurethane foaming glue although i have used epoxy glue before, i just find the epoxy tends to stain the timber & is a bit harder to sand. I have met other board builders who don't like polyurethane foaming glue as they feel its not strong enough & its not water tight but i haven't had any of these probs as yet.
this is so sick
F**king brilliant! One of the sexiest boards ive ever seen.
+DeepCreekTV Thank you so much for this video, I am making a board as a project for school, and i am going to make it from this video! But I was wondering whet templates you used and where you got them from!
Emily, check my other video "How to make a rocker template" , & to make an outline (shape) template just do the same but trace the outline of a board.
Ok.thank you
Nice board :)
What is the final weight of the board?
Regards
Insanely cool. Hey all these comments but I don't see any asking about custom orders?? Do you do them? Cost etc? Thx
Carlo Tag Hi Carlo, yes I'll do a custom...but as you can imagine lots of work so there a bit more expensive than your average board. If your keen post me a message to my inbox & we'll talk off line. Cheers.
Great video! Was just wondering what type of finish you used to seal the board at the end there. Keep up the good work
a mix of oils & wax.....but i have found tung oil works well, it just takes a long time to dry.
What kind of resin do you use if you dont use cloth?
hey, amazing video but I would like to know how do you get the leash plug onto the board, thanks
same as you would with a fiberglass board, so leave some solid timber where you want the plug when chambering, as you do for the fin plugs..
Jodi, at 8.55 its just about to be oiled, is that what u mean, in its raw state? J.
Bogong, bloody brilliant. Great vid, great board and great surfing. Ballpark cost to produce one??
thanks, here in Aust. about $350 for Paulownia, plus cost of machining
timber, glues etc.
Thank you very much for your answer but can't we chamber the board first and Then glue the parts together ?
There's no right or wrong way in any of this but with the aid of a CNC machine this may be possible. I reckon a method to do this by hand would be a very serious mathematical / construction challenge, too much for me to work out.
Bem legal👏👏👏
Hello, awesome video. I planing on building a 7"4 egg board and i was wondering where did you get your pawlaunia wood? I cant found any that is 40mm thick. I live in Northern California if anyone else has some lead on where to get pawlaunia this please let me know. Thanks a lot.
Thanks...i cant help you as I'm in oz but have you thought about using redwood ?
You might also try western red cedar because it's light, rot resistent, and reasonable to find in your area. Redwood is a smidge lighter, but I think it might be a bit more expensive and hard to locate as well. Good luck!
Hey bud!
You inspired me to build my own board for kite surfing :) I'm a boat builder in the french alps!
For the fins, would leaving some meat where the you put the mounts? And could you make the wood thinner?
Thank you so much for you great videos! You're doing a awesome content!
Cheers from France :)
Hi
Yes leave some solid wood where you are planning to put fins.
You can go thinner but you will sacrifice strength... but if you were planning to glass it should be OK, I'm not sure I've never gone any thinner.
As it's a kite board I'd suggest you glass it with at least 6oz cloth but if you were thinking of a oil finish I'd leave it solid, no Chambers. I'm not a kite boarder but I'd assume there would be plenty of forces on the board.
Hi, nice vid. I'm making a 1:3 scale surfboard and going to try do the cloth on it today with the resin. I've seen vids where they fold the cloth around the side but I'm not sure what to do with the gap underneath, just let it go hard and fill up with cloth in the middle or leave it only with resin? TY
Chihiro Mikoto well Im no expert at glassing, but I'll give it a shot. after you wrap the rails & the resin cures you need to reduce that lump that's left, the edge of the cloth. You can either carefully sand this as not to damage unglassed gap as you call it, or flatten it with a roller ( I'm presuming its a foam/fiberglass board) or mix up a small amount of resin & paint it along side that edge then sand smooth when dry. you need to eliminate this because when you do another coat as you did before it will leave air bubble along that join.
DeepCreekTV Thanks for trying, I still don't know how to really do this but I've decided to skip the whole cloth thing. I was talking about the opening the cloth leaves on the upper side but it's hard to find out how many times they use the cloth why do their boards all look hard already.
I've made the board out of foam and every video I find is when the board is already hard and the fold the cloth over the edge. I never see anything how they treat the foam directly to make it hard.
Chihiro Mikoto try this link, its on wood but gives you an idea, sounds like you only need one layer top & bottom , ruclips.net/video/h-vzAtPGI44/видео.html good luck
DeepCreekTV
Ty for the reply, it is not exactly what I'm doing but I still learned something from it for the fins
And how did you chamber the rail?
GREAT.. DO YOU COVER WITH FIBERGLASS AND RESIN ALL OVER THE WOOD OR JUST LET THE SURFACE WOODEN?
Felipe, you can cover with fiberglass if you like but I like to use a tung oil & bee's wax mix.
You rock! I love all the quirky video edits you went out of you way to include. Any lessons learned on chambering? you showed some long chambers here, have you ever had one break? I'm building a balsa blank for a 5'11'' egg shape, this vid is super helpful. how did you seal this stick, resin or ? Last question (assuming you respond) what kind of glue did you use to put the strips together? I've heard you should use epoxy and not glue, i'd love to use glue if i could. Do you have a preference?
Thanks for the wrap.... this board was badly cracked earlier this year 8-( , got hammered on a serious wave, see earlier post below, but I feel any board would have been damaged/snapped had it been in the same position. i have shortened the chambers on a new board i'm working on & Im leaving a little bit more solid timber in nose area. I seal boards with wax & oils, & I use polyurethane foaming glue. One positive thing about trashing the board was discovering the glue held up & the actual timber split, just make sure you lightly wet the timber pre gluing, instructions are on bottle, but Im not sure how well it works on balsa? but i think it will be OK as you'll need to fiberglass if using balsa as its porous. Good luck..
Fantastic video! Was wondering though about how many timbers you used for this board?
Thanks, I used 16. Check at about 4.00min, the outside ones are thinner so as to remove the maximum timber in chambering process. ✌️
Ok thank you i will try ! stay in touch greetings
G'day, great looking board, just wondering where you got your timber from?
Cheers
Ive been milling timber so i'll have stock soon but u can source from mid & nth coast NSW or SE Qld, just google.
bloody art
How long does it take to get to the point just before you split it and chamber it?
Thinking of placing an order. Is the nougat mix the secret. How do they compare to fibre glass. Padding? Catching waves? Old Fella Friendly?
+Mike King no secrets Mike, the chambered models are not really a commercial product, very expensive although if ya want one i'll make it, a little heavier than a standard glass but perform quite well, depends on what ya wanna do on a wave really.....an importantly, they float....!
When you shape the blank how do miss the screws without having to take them out and have loose pieces? You've got me really excited to try make one of these
+Kenny Robert when screwing start at 2nd piece from rail and work towards the center of blank screwing in the middle INSIDE of each piece , you then end up with 2 halves of blank, lightly glue together.
+DeepCreekTV Ahhhh so the direction of the screws is actually outwards? Thanks for that
So good thanks!
Awesome video! What size wood planks did you use?
+Nathaniel Cushing cheers, 150mm x 40mm x 2m
Brilliant build!!! Finally a video that helps me make a board at home. Where can i get the templates?
Braydon Thanks...I made hard templates so not available to download sorry, but I'm sure you could find something.... "Blending Curves" maybe.
Inspiring video mate! I have been wanting to start my own board for a long time now! I think I am going to start this weekend.... do you know of any websites where I can find free rocker templates? or at least dimensions to draw out on a template board?
Michael Hilburn check out ruclips.net/video/7W--Lg6aa88/видео.html "how to make a surfboard rocker template" I dont know of any web sites but u could check out www.swaylocks.com/ someone on that blog may be able to help you.
Also anybody using the AKU shaping softwear, it can design rocker & outline templates. www.akushaper.com/ hope that gets you on the path.
DeepCreekTV thanks for the advice. I downloaded a program (BoardCAD) and used their generic long board template, slightly modified to my needs. I bought some redwood this weekend and am GOING FOR IT! I am prepared to make lots of mistakes but feel pretty confident with all the videos, websites, and Instagram posters giving advice. But THIS video pushed me actually "bite the bullet" as we say here in the States! Are you on Instagram? check out my progress if you like! @mdhilburn
Hi, thanks for the informative video and hello from Israel!
A quick question, what is the benefits of the stringer, if it is being chambered? Does it maintain the properties of a whole stringer?
Gday, the stringer is purely cosmetic, it was chambered during the process....✌🏼🙂
@@DeepCreekTV Thanks for the quick response! Indeed it came out nice 😁
Can't wait to start my own built.
Cheers 🤙🏽
Great Job, I would like to do one with my two kids during summer...just 1 question, I think I will try to find some Balsa (As I located in Portugal and don't believe I can purchase Paulownia wood...what should be the dimensions of the raw pieces of wood (I understood 2000mm long x ?? wide x ?? thick) Thanks
Benoit Giran thanks... I use 150mm X 40mm X the length of the board you would like, just remember if you need more rocker you may need 200mm wide or scarf/join a piece to accommodate nose rocker. You will need to glass balsa or varnish and that's all I know as I have never made a balsa model. Good luck 👍
Thanks
No epoxy?
@@LollyPoppi no epoxy, wax and oil. My process here ....
ruclips.net/video/WmE4LZYkvTU/видео.htmlsi=c1UKNjryS65oncFW
No need it's Paulownia. It is as light as Balsa Wood, heaps stronger than pinewood, and is salt water resistant.
Are those 2x6's? Been researching hollow wood boards for a while and have lofty dreams of turning into a (side?) career over the next 5-10 years as i learn and am stoked on coming across this chambered method. Probably heavier than the bead and cove/rib methods but having just bough my first home and being a broke ass !@#$, this is a great way to get started and learn to shape, etc. as well - already have the tools i need for this!
Awnex77 yes 2x6, & yes a little heavier than HWB, but remember....you will need more timber if chambering than a HWB. I agree with your comment "this is a great way to get started and learn to shape" & that's why I prefer the chambered method as you are shaping a board in the traditional way. I've just finished a new model "Cadaga" 6'x21" fish so I'm chomping at the bit to get in the water.... hope to post a clip soon.
What is the difference between giving a glass coat or a oil/resin coat? Why should I prefer the first one or the second one? Thank you for your awesome channel
Hi Claudio, the difference is weight and strength, if you glass with say 4oz cloth at a guess would add approximately 1kg+, if you paint on epoxy resin or vanish at a guess would add maybe 200 - 400 grams, if you oil it would add approximately 200 grams. All these finishes have pros and cons so it's what best suits you, cheers 🌞
do you have any videos of you applying your fin box's?
No Mitch, Ive been using the "Pro Box" system & on their web page they have much info about installing boxes & their fin placement ideas. www.proboxfinsystems.com/pages/install_movie.html
Thanks...how do you cut your outline shape without hitting screws?
nevermind....figured it out. duh.
Thanks :)