Subliners NEED a Mental Reset?! OpTic MUST “Get Creative” To Dethrone FaZe! Is Envoy BACK?
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Subliners NEED a Week Off! OpTic Must “Get Creative” To Topple FaZe! Is Envoy BACK?!
Reverse Sweep hosts and Call of Duty legends Patrick ‘ACHES’ Price, Chris ‘Parasite’ Duarte, Doug ‘Censor’ Martin and Mark ‘MarkyB’ Bryceland discuss a big weekend of COD esports action.
What's going wrong with the New York Subliners and KISMET, Sib, HyDra & Skyz? Can anyone stop Atlanta FaZe? And has making a roster move for Flames elevated LA Guerrillas?
#esports #podcast #callofduty
Previous episode: • Envoy is “Holding Toro...
CHAPTERS:
0:00 LAG - roster moves paying off?
4:40 LA Thieves - why can’t they close out series?
9:18 Boston Breach at ROCK BOTTOM - what’s the solution?
18:05 Prize Picks - will Sib bounce back?
26:46 Why OpTic “MUST get creative” to topple FaZe
31:48 Sib beefs with Seattle - are they actually breaking GA’s?
36:41 Vegas roster moves LACKING - Asim the WRONG fit?
41:57 Subliners need a mental reset
48:12 Envoy is shooting back! But what’s up with Insight?
53:00 Best player NEVER to win Champs?
54:47 Would the CDL improve if FaZe split up?
1:05:55 Does COD need to change every year for CDL success?
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Another day where Boston needs to fire their shadow general manager
It’s lowkey insane, Doug one moment can say that he does not want to be involved in the decision making of the team, and then a few moments later talk like he is the shadow GM.
Facccttsss
Doug isn't the shadow general manager. He does have influence however. It's the org that wants snoopy. He's young, has gunny, and plays fast and isn't afraid to chall gunfights. That's what the org sees in him. Even though I think at this point he should be dropped, and I'm a Boston breach fan.
Snoopy can only shoot and run other then that he’s mid
@parkernelson631 That's why I said he needs to be dropped. He needs to develop more in challengers like Doug literally wanted him too. Remember that he got called up to Champs, not anything Doug wanted at the time. He's said this numerous times. Yes, Doug can be contradictory, but he doesn't need to explain himself constantly to people who can be fake as hell constantly. For example, look at asim, who's literally only in the league because of the tom zoomaa friendship cheese. No offense to asim of course. One could argue that he isn't all that great though.
Am I faded for liking Aches speaking more on This Then The Flank,it’s refreshing hearing him giving his actual opinion not just saying blow it up on the flank feels like he likes This more then the Flank.
Faze trio doesn’t need money at this point, the friendship and years of being together bond them good enough to retire together
Doug talking about penta, and snoopy being the best sub duo he played with, and never losing snd… In challengers and never won…
Doug should not have any influence on the team’s decision since he has not been in the league.
He also played with prime Saints and Apathy in ghosts lol. Chatting waffle as usual. Add to the fact he was a sub for the vast majority of his career so basically never played with a sub duo.
Edit:Just got to that part and he said "in a very long time" so Saints and Ap are probably excluded but no excuse for his "I was on a dynasty" stuff
Bro Doug just said he was on a hard point dynasty. wtf is up with this dude. Lmfaoo
@redtigerboy1998 This is probably the best comment in the thread, and you don't have to say "duh" to attempt to prove your point. He should not have any influence on our team, I totally agree. I like Doug, and I think he's a great guy, but he definitely hasn't been good in the modern day CDL era.
@@BillionsMLG Are you a Boston Breach fan? Just curious :D
Reverse Sweep Pat > Flank Pat
Doug putting himself in an SND dynasty is certifiably batshit. Columbus AW event is apparently a “dynasty” win 😂
People want Faze to split up do bad lol those guys all want to end their careers with each other
Imagine censor saying dropping slasher was for the best and go 0-4 this split
Had to skip the Vegas roster part, drop Asim for somebody who can shoot. It’s as simple as that.
"Behind the computer" 😭😭 good af episode guys
I know it's halfway through the season but hopefully Grime (or another good map) will replace Highrise. Sub base is bad but in Highrise you can see the entire map from 100 different spots and spawn trap way too easily. And the propane tanks next to objectives...
Question for Aches:
If you guys get a competitive scene in XDefiant, do you think it’s an area Assault could excel since it plays a little more like the older cods?
Xdefiant plays nothing like older cods
competitive XD will belong to the movement kings
Hey guys, I just wanted to ask what would be your ideal cod game if you had created one? For example, bo2 maps with bo3 streaks, OG mw2 guns, bo1 perks, and pick-10.
remember what Slasher said before "no one knew spawns" so there's no telling that Asim also doesn't know spawns cuz the way he plays in the 2 matches looks like it.
Also for Optic to beat Faze, its just 1 map and its High Rise cuz Shotzzy can pop off on High Rise Control but Pred lays down too much when he needs to hit their spawn and be a distraction rather than Shotzzy doing it.
So many fucking ads. At this point just have us all under a contract like cable!
You’d think as Boston’s shadow gm, coach, cheerleader, co-owner… Doug would stop talking about “they”. He’s a part of the team I thought no? Just like he said he “wishes he could hear their comms”. I thought he listens to their comms, that’s what he told Slasher I thought right?
Yes. Salary and prize money is a bad setup. They should move prize money and put this stuff into player contracts as performance incentives, like athletes do.
Wtf is doug talking about i been apart of dynastys squads 😂 check this dude for cte just rambling
im convinced as well that aches is under the assumption that doug is saying it for 'interactions'
however i believe if doug said that shit for real not on a show Pat would check him. Pats too smart of a player/
person to let that slide; any other show he'd call it out ie the flank- but Pats playing the long game.
Question - who is the best secondary / pistol player of all time? Some names that spring to mind - Dashy, FormaL Simp
For a guy who says he isn't involved with the team, he sounds pretty involved with the team and role decisions. Like i get you can be consulting and "they dont need to listen to you" but you are the guy with the biggest/only positive voice for boston so they listen so you can gas them up and get your favorite player of the moment in the league but then when they arent league ready and arent performing and adjusting over months of playing it just turns into excuses. How much longer until they run it like a team and not dougs flavor of the week squad?
It’s insane how much Power Doug has on Boston.
Flavor of the week squad 🤣🤣
Question for the boys:
Who would win in an arm wrestling match:
AW Huke VS BO4 Temp
BO2 Nadeshot VS BO2 Aches
Ghost Parasite VS Ghost Slasher
AW Censor VS BO2 Scump
Temp, aches, parasite and censor(RIP the kings arm)
Nysl last year had good team chemistry, and a do it all guy. They gave all that up for a few more mills. Worst part is sib not getting the mills they imagined 💀
As much as we want whoever to win, why should faze be punished for being too good 😂. I hate faze for winning but you cant do nothing but tip them for being fucking insane. It is what it is, no matter what you do they wont split up unless the league breaks them up on purpose. Also sidenote, we need to get new styles of cod like we been playing the same game for 100 years now, what happen to adapting. Jetpacks, slow ass boots, regular sprint games no tac sprint. Im pretty sure the current optic would be ALOT more competitive in a jetpack cod as well as having GOOD SERIES with Uplink, CTF, maybe add some halo game modes into the rotation.
A proper pro league would have a salary cap, tbh.
Great podcast
How close do you guys think the top 4 are to each other? for example is optic closer to Faze than they are to Ultra or is NY closer to Ultra than they are to whoever the fuck is the 5th place team any given week.
Pat is right about optic they have to create a new way of playing this game
I’d like to point out optic have had 6star snd in the map set a few times, just it was game 5 every time
Question for the next episode:
“Do you guys think if from the start of the season every league game was played on LAN and obvs the majors, do you think the standings would be different and possibly different major winner’s?”
Love the work guys keep it up! 👍🏼
Question: How many more wins till you guys think Seattle will be a team that makes champs?
Doug is a A Tier slaya d rider 😭
“Pat remember when we teamed up?”😂😂😂
S tier more like
Real Aches v Flank Aches
If you had to compare COD dynasties to NBA Dynasties who would you compare too. Ex. I would say the optic dynasty is similar to the Miami Heat big three era with loaded talent and established superstars.
Purj was only bad at hardpoint Pat but decent in other modes. Envoy is terrible at hardpoints, just had one decent showing against bottom team so do we give him the boot too or nah? Not everything is stats and attach and gio stats took a massive nosedive since purj left. They team was fine and just needed to stick it out
I’ve realized pat trolls on the flank, but chooses episodes to bring deep insight based on the week. Flank already has too many break down and analytic guys. He fills the entertainment role the show needs. Cause here he’s all business lol
Aren’t you a genius
Sounding like Doug wants pentagram replaced or am I missing something
I believe 6star will be the curveball Optic will use against FaZe
Kinda funny how everyone is gassing this faze undefeated against optic thing recently, last 2 years optic ran faze yet most of the community would still pick them in series or find ways say faze is better, now legit no one thinks optic can even compete, double standards are crazy
faze owes their success this season to aches and others drilling into them
Decrease winnings for Majors, increase even more for Champs. Make champs mean more. Make Majors for pride and practice. Plus get rid of online league matches. Bring back online tournaments
I think everyone is intoxicated to act like the gap between Optic and Faze is so big. Faze is the #1 team in the game right now no question, but the gap between them and Optic is not that crazy. Every time they match up its very close on every map.
Exactly bro people just don’t see it
Yet 6-0 so clearly there is a big gap
@@mrballondorkarimbenzema8328 what?😂
@@vvemomusic5543 ?
@@mrballondorkarimbenzema8328 wat about mw2 people wasn’t even saying that but now they do😂when did it matter fr lol
Ledoug back at it again
39:00 Purj and Asim have relative stats, but Purj has far better impact. Asim is .01 better as far as KD goes tho lmao
Telling NY to stop scrimming and take a break when they might not even make winners is insane. They need to lock tf in and go harder in practice.
That’s the problem precisely. A break would be good for all 4 of ‘em especially sib do you hear what that dude was saying on the flank like maybe a month ago… talking about how to play the game on this is super insane level looking 4-5 steps ahead when things aren’t even done yet for step 1-2. It’s caused them to be so far in their heads that now they’re making brain dead horrible decisions/plays on the map. They just need a breather like 3-4 days they’ll be ight. 👍🏻
@@TwhistyyHD Y'all not slick. None of y'all really NY fans for real. Stop playing the game for four days just to get slammed by Miami and Vegas and have the whole community laughing at them. Insane advice.
@@prov1denc3 I’m just talking to talk and btw when did I say I was a fan of them ?
First of Great Content & excellent show, I appreciate you guys! Even thought 💯LAThieves did lose they are young talented players who are learning a lot daily! JoeDeceives brings a pace that is helping Kremp look as scary as we predicted he could! Also LAG are a good team as well Esteal & Dcon high up in my book 📕 Flames 🔥 has really helped bring pace and flow to this squad
Yearly COD needs to stop. It needs to be a two year cycle, that way players can get used to it the first year then teams can confidently build great teams. They just need to add new maps the second year and they should be good. Also this will allow developers to truly flesh out the games and fix spawn issues that plagues the game atm.
saints is best player to not win champs imo
Vivid would not have done anything for Vegas. Maybe more than asim, but idk. They should have just picked up another challengers player imo. Dak, yeez, anybody except Asim. Zoomaa was in attachs ear trying to get his boy back in the league lol
Doug said proofy the best player to never win champs???? Bro is delusional
enable >
Jet pack clears boots on the ground. only shitters with no movement would disagree.
Nysl need a roster change badly in hindsight Kenny woulda been perfect for this nysl roster.
Sib is awful in every game mode rn and mf is tweaking nonstop
Dan ghosty would’ve been a better choice than Sib
Yeah they was blinded by his kills and slaying it seems his comms aren’t good they have no good IGL bad pick up
@@blob4719 NY would be insane with ghosty over sib
@@t2nexx561 Lowkey agree elite coms and can slay as well
Regarding NYSL. I said when they made the change they don’t need more kills.
Chris acting like he didn’t say flames hadnt been preforming well in challengers, and picking him up wouldn’t “move the needle” for LAG at all is wild. AND everyone acting like putting breszy on his NORMAL ROLE wouldn’t make him play any better. They made the roster change and everyone was still saying Seattle was dog shit roster, with dogshit coaches and dogshit players. The cod scene jumps to conclusions WAY too quick.
Show is way bettter without Doug he just spits the bs
NY does need a reset. I'd lose full if I asked are all 4 dead, they say yes, and one of them is still alive like what the fuck
If you're a pro and you have to ask that question because you aren't counting kills then you're also the problem
@@SidePiece88 no because it's a team, if you can't work with your team then you're ass lol you also just gave your teammates wrong info. 04 was right stop costing his team
I could give a shit less about new York they are ass. And sib is costing them and probably Kis too. All I'm saying is they shouldn't have to ask if all 4 are dead or not. Each of them should know as much as the next one and no one else spoke up and said no its only 3
@@SidePiece88 seems like you don't understand team dynamic lol
Question: What's the most surprising roster change in cod history? And what city would you like to see an event held in?
The excuses and gaslighting from Doug. Come on man, swallow your ego, admit you put faith in a team that isn't good, move forward with your shadow government. The cod fanbase will keep roasting you until you humble up. 👍
Beans already fucked me on higher he's getting paid. Not again
Censor this Boston team is shit
I used to think that Trump was the GOAT when it came to delusions. But then Doug came along.
Nysl is chalk they can’t play they worst maps to get better at them because they need wins and they 1-3 it’s chalk 😂😅😅
Doug is a simp
SLAYAAAAAA
Dashy most talented not to win a ring
Get doug off the show
Chill.
Doug Cenor Martin = 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sib sucks all bark no bite needs to be dropped
🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶
Why do you guys keep bringing Doug on? All of his points are just dumb and always revert to him being a champion or him being in a dynasty or him being the best bomb planter or any thing under the sun that has something to do with him. The other main thing I can’t stand about his commentary is he NEVER just answers the question or replies to the talking point. Like the whole thing with the sound eq sib 04 drama like somehow he brings it to everybody’s integrity and how people will do things they think other people do because they’re not performing. He just doesn’t fit on here. Chris and Pat literally always drop facts and always have valid shit to say. I just can’t imagine a world where Chris or Pat actually take anything Doug says seriously. I literally get second hand embarrassed for him everytime I hear him speak
Simp, Abezy, and Cell shouldn't even be aloud on same team Idgaf, it should just be a rule. Until them 3 separate the league will be awful. You can't have 3 superstar players on your team EVERY SINGLE YEAR. It's just stupid.
Luckily they haven't won as much as they should have or else it probably would be a rule 😂
What about you dumba** optic fans you swear by shotzzy dashy pred so what even ya’ll have come back to reality.
Skill issue, teams like OpTic and Ultra with their current roster can’t be formed either.
@@Reflect21 idk how ultra get thrown into that logic. Ultra had cleanX on their bench to start franchising, called up insight from challengers in a relatively controversial move at the time, had scrap on an academy roster. Envoy is the only one case where they bought talent, everyone else for Toronto is relatively home grown. So to say they shouldn't be allowed that roster is kinda crazy
@@mkwsoxfan his argument was that teams can’t be formed with 3 superstars. Which is why i said that would have to apply to Ultra and OpTic because their entire roster is exactly that. The guy is just mad FaZe have been dominating because of their trio.
Doug is a professional yapper, man is adding nothing of value to this. He contradicts himself so much it’s crazy.