FTF #17 Should I Become A Carpenter? My Experience
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A lot of young guys have been asking me if they should choose carpentry and construction as their career so I thought I would share my experience.
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I'm 20 years old, and I've been feeling the weight of trying to prepare and set myself for a life like the one you've earned. I've been trying to remind myself that the urge to give up after a few failures is natural and inevitable, and that the quicker I learn to bite the bullet and keep going, the better. Nothing makes me happier than woodworking, but I also have other passions that I couldn't imagine living without. Striking an even balance is key. Thank you for this video.
what a brilliant talk... this is the sort of talk that's needed in schools to give the next workforce a realistic idea of what to expect in life.
My old man is a carpenter (subcontractor) and I've been working for him (unofficially) since I was 10 in the shore towns on the east coast, USA building 5 - 10 million dollar homes. I'm now on the verge of graduating from college with a degree I have no interest in pursuing (per advice from my parents) aka, go to college. I want to be a carpenter and potentially own my own business. This video really meant a lot to me. Thanks Samurai.
Wow. Your honesty is refreshing and inspiring. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks for the honest and sensible talk. I have been practicing woodworking from home from quite a long time and I love the way of woodwork you guys do and I'm very inspired by it. I'm not a full time woodworker but I'm doing everything to be one.
thank you, Samurai, for these humbled words. you're truly talented, open minded and passionate. intelligence is not measure by years in school, rather by being opened minded, passion, and perseverance.
You, Sir, are a special one...As a family man and aspiring carpenter, I appreciate the efforts and sacrifices you and your wife take to make these videos possible. Thank you for sharing. The quality of your work is admirable, and the public sharing of your extensive experiences are invaluable! I appreciate you. PleaSE EXCUSE MY POOR ENGLISH
25$ a hour is like hitting the jack pot for me
Tyrese Chambers i assume it’s before taxes, meaning minus 40% and also, it's hard to get all hours a week paid. I was a web developer and over the year I managed to get around 20 hours a week paid 50 dollars per hour. It was sustainable, but tough. Managed for 6 years. Rough competition as well. Starting a business you'll need to do free hours, learn many hard lessons and 60 hour working weeks in the start.
@@Nehbur MINUS 40 PERCENT LMAO. I love you Canadians but wow those taxes are insane
@@josephjeffers6102 dude you have no idea. We get taxed on everything. There is even a carbon tax on gas us standard federal and provincial tax. Best part not all are healthcare is free.
We would literally start killing people over that here lol
His 25 bucks is not in America
$25-$30/hr not a lot of money? I'd like to live in the same world as this guy.
Shootgreedofirst well he has 4 kids so I'm sure that's a pretty large burden
That's in Canadian monopoly money not glorious freedom dollars. So it's a bit lower. Also, if you think that's just an insane amount of money you clearly don't own your own home and aren't trying to save for retirement.... Depending on the exchange rate that's close to what I make and I'm certainly not living the good life.
25 is insane money. You can live and save for retirement on 15 an hour. 25 an hour is like 50,000 at the end of the year. How is a human being struggling on that much money.
I'd like to retire at 55. If you think $25 an hour is a lot of money you have an entirely different set of life goals than I do. I'm assuming by "saving for retirement" you mean putting the standard 6% in your 401k or something along those lines? If you want to work well into your 60s and die at 70 you're all set at 15 an hour I guess.
It's not about how much money you make it's about how you use it. I can make the argument that 100 dollars an hour or 200,000 dollars a year isn't enough either. I can be paying off a million dollar home, some BMW's, 9 kids, an indoor swimming pool, an elevator in my house, etc. It depends how smart you are with money. If you wanna live this wild life than yes 50,000 will not do it. Nor would 200,000. Because as your income goes up, so does your liabilities. This is the case with most people. They make 20,000. Than they make 25,000 but now they decided they wanted a pool. They make 30,000 now they decide they want fitness equipment in their house. Now they make 40,000 now they want a brand new car. They make 50,000 now they want a bigger house. Now they make 60,000 now they want a motorcyle. They make 70,000 now they want to take 2 expensive vacations a year. Now they make 80,000 now they wanna retire at 55. Now they make 100,000 now they wanna retire at 40. I can go on and on forever.
If you read money management books this is how almost everyone is. You'll literally hear people who are making 25,000 a year complain to people making 200,000 a year complain. I've heard this from 2 people. One was a doctor who owned his own business so I'm sure he's wellllllll about 200,000 and the other was a manager of a construction company. He makes 200,000 a year with his wife making 50,000. Don't believe me ask them, ask the people making all this money they'll tell you how they "struggle". To an extent of course. I mean you're not surviving on like 10,000 a year. That's enough just to exist in the average part of America or barely get by. But 30,000 how can you not survive and put money away? Assuming rent is like 10,000 a year that leaves you with 20,000 for food, car payments, and phone payments. 9,000 for food/car payments/gas/phone/gym fees. Round that up to 10,000 for the sake of argument. That leaves you with 10,000 dollars. That's talking about 30,000 too. You're talking about 50,000. So you'll have 30,000 dollars at the end of the year to bank.
Where is all your money going? Yes I'm sure we do have very different lifestyles. I pay for the basics and I'm good. Everything else just builds up. Everyone has these hidden expenses. My friend says he can't afford to move out with his gf. Combined they make 70,000. So he says he buys the necessities. I come to find out that he goes to the bar EVERY week. He spends HUNDREDS of dollars there. He goes out to expensive fancy diners and drops a shit load. He travels to other countries several times a year. And more useless spending. There's always these secret toilets the money gets flushed down that people don't like to tell you.
You gotta read financial books they'll help you big time.
Truth bomb! Love what your doing with this channel and I'm happy to see good hearted people spreading the good news through your craft.
I am a 27 year old carpenter/ contractor in charleston sc and just discovered your videos. very refreshing to see there are others out there with a passion for the job and the drive to do it a little better. It can be discouraging seeing all the guys in the trade who couldent care less and this is a breath of fresh air. I would agree strongly that if you want to live your dreams these days you will need to do more than just carpentry and thinking of yourself as an entrepreneur in general is the way to go.
I'm living my dream for about 1200 USD/month, my dream was to not waste my life on work to by shit that I don't need.
+Johan Holmström That definitely can work, but you basically need to live in a van.
What are you all talking about?! I make about $1200/mo and I'm fine. I can afford a house, dog, bills, going out occasionally, decent car, food. I'm not struggling at all. I just don't buy unnecessary shit that temporarily makes me happy or need some giant house yo fill a void.
education is not the learning of facts, but the training of the mind to think
alex power well, its both
Very well put. I'll remember reading this already knowing its meaning but never really thinking about it.
Great video! Back when I was in high school it's like no one even told us that working with your hands was an option. Go to college, get a degree, be a wage slave, die unfulfilled, wash, rinse, repeat. You can make a good living wage in the building trades, just like just about any other industry, if you're smart, hard-working, and motivated. Thrilled to see you getting it done and at a damn fine quality too.
I found your channel last week. At the end of this week I've watched every video that I could find of yours, some twice. LOVE IT!! This video is spot on! I'm not a fan of Ashton Kutcher but he said something that young (and some older) people need to hear "Opportunity looks a lot like hard work". It doesn't matter what you do, do your best, work hard, and keep at it and you will be successful.
Never give up. Great wisdom at the end there, thanks man.
Great advise Samurai. Young people have got to hear the message. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Really inspiring video man! You can't believe how helpfull can be your advices and tipps! Keep doing it! Thanks for all your ideas!
you are an inspiration for us all ! love your channel,
Jeff.
I've followed your channel for some time so I enjoyed hearing more about you as a person and the ways in which you have adapted your approach to meet your own goals.
Much as we like to think we may not be someone's servant by advancing our careers, we only end up being the servant of a larger number of more demanding masters as we advance (review the concept of customers if you disagree). However, service to others is not a bane; nay, it is our contribution to society and the world. May we all endeavor to serve more, and serve better; and may we all quit seeking only to be served.
That was a great video. Very inspiring. Hard work does pay off.
Dude, you hit the nail right on the head! Even though I live in the Netherlands, everything you said totally applies over here too. Thanks for sharing this with the U-tubes.
I'm not a carpenter, and you inspire the hell out of me anyway Samurai! The years you've spent in the trenches developing the craftsmanship, persisting through financial hardship, and so on. I totally get it, I'm in the same boat, you give me hope that as long as a keep knocking someone is going to answer. Keep up the good work mate; ignore the naysayers and keep telling it how it is. I wish you and your family all the freaking best!
absolutely true words and a nice little insight into the business. Thanks man!
Thanks for the video!!! Be always an entrepreneur, you are already living your (and many others) dream. What you have done isn't easy to anybody. Best wishes from Ecuador
Great video, honest, humble and to the point
I love your woodworking videos and enjoy your entertaining style. Long-term success is knowing your craft and sticking to what you do best. I look forward to more entertaining and helpful woodworking videos. Thanks!
+Idan Burs Yes more woodworking videos. That's why I come here.
I tell you what man I'm really digging these last few videos you've put out. I like the direction it's going.
Samurai dropping wisdom bombs! We plugged your channel and fan funding on Faking IT Podcast. Show drops on the 11th! Love the content!
Great video Samurai, you hit the nail on the head.
This is what i was waiting for the old sincere and confident Samurai im glade your back. Hope more videos are in this spirit and your in your sensei mood :)
Glad I stumbled on your channel, great content!
Thank you for sharing your insight. I enjoy watching your videos and appreciate and respect your skills.
You can make great money as a craftsman/contractor!! You have to work for yourself. I do high end interiors gross over 700K a year with 3 man crew. I charge $150.00 per hour for shop time and $90 per man hour for field work.
When can I start ? Lol
me too?
ball boy jones curious, Sir. What part of the country are you living?
Hello. I am going to college studying carpentry. Its about 3 months now and I have been sitting and standing around a lot, we have not been able to practice or learn how to do anything important, just basic things, i was pretty disappointed
@@macbrick66 should’ve been an apprentice
Thanks for the candid advice. Enjoy your video.
I just gave a standing ovation to this little gem. My coworker looked at me like a was crazy!
Hey Samurai - thank you for sharing more about your life and story with us. I am not in the trades and have no plan to be, but this is definitely, definitely applicable to anyone who is interested in working for themselves. I encourage you to continue to share your life wisdom. Dont worry about alienating the folks that come here for "woodworking only", videos like this are simply excellent.
Great video and talk. I myself am a journeyman carpenter and can validate pretty much everything he said on that topic. Things I would add are the 2 major routes. Residential and Commercial. I've never worked in commercial (thank the lord) and from my experience building high end custom homes in Vancouver you truly get to do almost everything, my company does the 3 main types of carpentry forming, framing aswell as finishing which adds a lot of variety to the job and keeps everything fresh and new. I would highly recommend being a residential carpenter and going to school for it. It's a great job and you learn way more than just carpentry skills but also skills to problem solve and manage everyone else. The pay might not be as good as a specific subcontractor like an electrician or plumber but it rarely get repetitive and you can use your tools for woodworking in your spare time like most of us probably do.
This video was amazing . This is my first time and I already subscribe to your channel. Everything was of important valuable . adopting , improving, learning , growing and have multiple source of income. Thanks man you did a great job .
should I be a carpenter?
you spoke from the heart, you nailed it. I pray for your family and success. Pacific Pilot One. Olympia Washington
You nailed it on the head brother. I'm a lot like you. I'm a GC, put my time in the trades, even went to college and got a desk job at one point. All of it has lead to this point in my life where I am beginning to feel really good about the seeds I have planted along the way. Everything you said about disseminating the most information and developing the most talents is key. That is the answer folks.
Love it, thanks for your words!
I think you pretty much nailed it on the advice. As a contractor I would add learning plumbing, electrical , tile, and roofing to the mix but no one will force you, the opportunities might force you or the lack there of. If you just like engineering and problem solving in general.
Life lesson on my tea break, much needed and well said.
This is great. I'm about to jump aboard. Thanks man!
Great information at 23 I have some thinking to do and get this done. Thank you sir.
Well put. I would have had trouble doing a video like this without being cynical. Thanks again for another great video.
Same with the lecturing route. Need to teach, research, publish, consult, you name it!
Great tips and advice, transferable knowledge here!
Add motivational speaker to that list. Well stated. I enjoy your videos immensely and have been inspired to not only build, but hone my craftsmanship skills. I will happily support you in the cause
+Josh Whitmarsh Thanks for your support brother. It's nice to meet perfect strangers that see the potential for what is happening here and are happy to lend a hand.
Awesome video. Channel always great advice
Words of wisdom. Thanks, Samurai.
I love and appreciate your honesty.
Really appreciated this. Thank you!
Dude this is an awesome video, this is exactly how it is on the welding business as well. Great advice for running my own business better. Thank you so much for your honesty!
Is welding fumes bad for your lungs? I am picking my major soon, and I am asking around about what it is like in different trades
Truth brother! Been learning this lesson myself the last few years!
+Carter Wilson Workshop with Bradley Boggs Me too. Had to unlearn the notion that you had to go to college to be successful and that its ok to pursue a carer in carpentry.
Well said... The message however doesn't only apply to carpentry it applies to any career. I've been getting but butt kick for years while in training and it still keeps coming because theres so much to learn and always ways to improve.
The Samurai dropping some knowledge!!
I 100% agree with everything you said!
Great to hear what the wage/contractor rates are in Canada, the prices are about the same in New Zealand.
I really liked your video because you spoke plainly and didn't coddle the viewer in hype and spin. Which, of course, means that half the listeners probably thought you were *mean* and *harsh* because you were *realistic* in the things you said.
+TheDamnSpot I'm very much putting in the hours and elbow grease to make my projects come true, and his words STILL shook me, as if I'm been slacking and not really doing things the I really should.
So yeah, some people are gonna cry, point at him and shout "You meanie!"
thanks for sharing,it was an inspiring video,hope to learn more from you.
wooo! finally someone talking sense! Stop teaching your kids to be employees!
T Regis lmao landing a job like that is completely unrealistic.
@@imnotgaygay1253 being a boss of a job like that is even more unrealistic 😂
the_weirdkidd lol, sad but true
Levi Coffman my mother always tells me working for somebody , working for yourself , having your own shop your own business do what you love
Your a very truthful guy about your business.
I definitely needed to hear all this. Been dragging my butt with my passions lately, and I know I can make it where I want to be if I knuckle down and get to it. Sidenote: was in Oak Bay today templating on some new construction and secretly hoped I'd see you there doing some custom woodwork of some sort. Ah well, someday :)
Been in food service for 7 years. I’ve topped out at 16/hr. I dont even want the burden of the white hat anymore. Your words about adaptation and perseverance are huge words of encouragement. I’m not a talented carpenter by any means, but I have built a 12’ farm table without any training. Just kind of winged it. I could stand and jump on it when I was done and there was no flex or wobble. I can say also as a fulltime/overtime line cook working in some insane kitchens, after overcoming near death illness, and making it this far where Im paying my own bills and feeding myself and keeping the car running, that push is all I know. I might look for an apprenticeship in carpentry. I know I have creative ideas for furniture, good taste in woodworking, I know a bit of this and that about musical instruments. I can go find steady work and also apply my knowledge of music to making instruments which I can sell, furniture and do shows at these big trade shows where we made 10 grand in a weekend just fixing up and refinishing furniture we bartered for at hoarders houses and flea markets. There’s ways to make a buck if you think hard enough. This video makes me feel hopeful about the trade if anything. Just need that hustle and grind. That being said, I need to go finish finishing my parents cabinets for them. You got a sub today my friend. Thank you for your words and teaching.
I completely agree with the college crap. I went to school for 5 years to get a B.S in Psychology and Sociology, on top of 2 years of technical school in Engineering (the Engineering while I was still in High School so the state paid for that schooling). I'm swimming in student loan debt and my job has absolutely nothing to do with either the certificate or the degree. However I have years of experience in fixing, building things, and whatnot, but employers don't care about that. Every job interview I get seems to end in either I'm overqualified due to my education or I'm under-qualified due to my experience in mostly manufacturing type jobs. I'd love to become a full time woodworker, but that doesn't pay the bills sadly. One day though I hope to get it figured out cause I'm tired of working for company after company of people who always seem to pile on the bullshit a little at a time.
Then why wouldn't you go for an apprenticeship in Carpentry or something like that?
Any updates on your idea of becoming a woodworker? I too am interested in becoming a woodworker/carpenter.
@@dankuspanku4650 I gave it up. I still do it as a hobby, but I finally found a career I like so I'm content
@@Renraw9002 I see, thanks for replying.
Hey, I've been following you for a while now and have constantly been inspired by your work. I am the college grad you talked about with the desk job. Granted I have been fortunate enough to make a very decent wage and be successful. In 2 weeks I'll be 30 and I have a lot of buckets list items checked off. House, 4 acre property in eastern PA, Wife, kids, only one debt (mortgage). However, I always feel like I'm not pursing my real dreams - self sufficiency. I don't know what that is for me exactly but, this video was particularly inspiring. Thanks for the post. -- Cheers. -Patrick-
Hey man, you left out the fact that you are an inspirator. Keep up the good work Mr.Samurai.
Cheers from Norway.
This was a great perspective, and I think you really hit the nail on the head! It's easy to dream big, but the reality is that it's a tremendous amount of work, practice, and probably discouragement to get anywhere meaningful. I know I have a long way to go, for sure. Thanks for the real talk :) 👌
Hi Samurai, Love your channel, love your style. I have been a lifelong subcontractor in the states below you. A lot of ups and downs and a great adventure. never been able to set my wages though. good times are good, tough times are tough. wouldn't trade it for all the money in the world
I love this man and his talks
I'm glad I found your channel. You are very talented and have the right charisma. Iv'e been in the business a long time and I know talent when I see it, so Kudos to you.
very honest and natural video you used to make .. I like it
Thank you for this! I'm starting my first job as a appreciate in a couple days. Super excited! :)
Austyn Coppe how’s the apprenticeship going mate?
Excellent & Honest advice.
Thank you edge7, my thoughts exactly, 12 years is just a start. I'm now retired, still learning, gaining WISDOM.
Does it take a lot of Math
Getting rich isn’t solely based on a career or a certain set of skills. Getting rich is simply a mindset and using certain tools in a way to get you there.
Getting rich isn’t a worthy goal. You put your worth in money? Amassing wealth? If amassing wealth was a worthy goal for a human then we’d be the happiest humans in history. The middle class live lavishly compared to history.
The meaning and purpose of life is not to get rich.
I want to build apox resin tables etc mainly. I’d imagine I’d need to take a carpentry course for that? I don’t particularly want to be doing construction. Those slabs in the background making me excited.
Currently 24 years old and in my first year of apprenticeship, but I worked in a full shop for a while with all of the toys- I mean, tools heh- you would want (professional planer, jointer, amazing cabinet saw, lathe, drill press, hollow chisel mortiser, router, belt sanders, two size bandsaws- most of the machines were made by General from their old drummondville factory). Kind of like you, my dream is to one day own my own shop. I also hail from Canada so perhaps one day our paths will cross if I become a fellow samurai. Thanks for the inspirational words, mr. sensei, and sayonara!
just subscribed, good talk in this vid about work in the industry. thank you for shareing.
I am glad to supporet you, I enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing.
+Gregory Wood Thanks for the support. Many love this channel for the content but I love it for the community of people all growing together and keeping their passion strong. Usually comments sections are riddled with trolls and criticism but this channel is 99% encouragement which has blown me away.
Im a little late to this video, but as far as I've learned, this is very similar to my experience. Im a cabinet maker in saskatoon, and the wages are on the low end of basically all trades. So i've had to aim for other streams of income... the biggest being rentals. The next step for me is going out on my own as an installer and custom builder... its the only way to get to the next step! Thanks for a little motivation, and a reminder to keep pushing.
Just the real life, good job Samourai and peace on u and your own family; message from a little woodworker from France ;)
Well said! I couldn't agree more.
Cheers!
I'm assuming this is Canadian dollars, as 30/hr American is pretty good in these parts
30 canadian is around 22.50 usd
Chuck Johnson 30 cad is still good in Canada
Its important to note, he said he is from Victoria, it has a reputation of being heinously expensive there. Its no wonder he had to earn $50/hr to feel like he had any money.
Working in construction, concrete work(wall/foundation crew) , I enjoy the hard work forms, learning, plus the bit wee more pay. Currently in college, business degree is the plan. It may change, but I need to do something, and not be just an employee at a Company.
This vid is so true...I heard a good saying the other day about sucess and it went...
Sucess is falling down 9 times and getting up 10...!!??!!
I love this channel, so inspiring..
I’ve been doing drywall and handyman construction type work ever since I was young and I’m thinking about getting into a local union..... it’s good honest work and you could always make money under the table
Hey Jesse, this is a good thing you're doing. "You won't get rich doing it" is what people need to hear. Nowadays everyone's dreaming about owning a BMW or Mercedes or Ferraris or what not, and some of them's gonna think "maybe this thing with wood is my ticket." Not saying it couldn't be done, but that would be more the exception than the norm.
Very informative video, realistic indeed.
As another 32 year old entrepreneur in an information technology business....this resonates, so freakin' much.
The difficulty of the work is what thins out the crowds of competitors. If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. But there are limited resources and markets are only so big.
Not that there is anything wrong with being an employee or that it doesn't have it's own unique challenges...but some people just need to challenge themselves as entrepreneurs.
This was helpful. Thank you.
sometimes being a man of value can out way being a man of success
Spot on, nicely said.
That was a good one. Really liked the punchline.
Good message . As an older person I agree, the world is ever changing and if you don't move with these changes you will become " got off my lawn guy" don't let that happen. I am just getting into woodworking and I have no plans of making any money but who knows my wife's grandmother started a very successful real-estate frim in her 60s'. For those of you that want to just work a trade I would highly suggest getting into a trade that you need a license, electrician, plumber. Barrier to entry is very important and will have a lot to do with how well you are paid. Doctors, Lawyers, CPA's and RN's all have licenses. It keeps the unskilled and more importantly untrained from taking your job. In my area of the Northeast a union tradesmen can make over 200,000 year with overtime, with a nice benefits plan. Thanks, take care.
I enjoyed this video, very true words spoken here.
as a general cpmtractor from mi moved to texas,im a custom framer found this to be a great video,i my self do more i frame an finish have learned many trades i worked union got my y journey man and have been in the field over 25 yrs i stay away from commercial work my family i was fortunate to have a few trades such as excavating,dirt work to concrete finishing,and carpentry rough to finish electrical plumbing learn the trades put your heart into it and life will follo,and dont be a hack i see carpenters who have shoddy workmanship and just plain suck and how an they are licensed is beyond me,i put my heart an soul an have made a great life an you cam become wealthy in a trade it depends on supply and demand and hiw bad do you want it i was hungry! and came to texas an killed it first custom house i built and finished was a 400k profit dont learn elegbra lesrn money an hiw to invest!!! great video
great thx ..... Poland with You Bro !
Now that is great wisdom ... You do what you love and if you love to work with your hands ... the smell of new cut wood .. and the marvels of wood grain ... you should go into carpentry. VERY well stated .. and no you will not get rich .. but you will be rich in other ways. Being happy in what you do is worth more than anything else you could hope for.
Great words of wisdom