Hamilton vs. Madison and the birth of American partisanship | Noah Feldman
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The divisiveness plaguing American politics today is nothing new, says constitutional law scholar Noah Feldman. In fact, it dates back to the early days of the republic, when a dispute between Alexander Hamilton and James Madison led the two Founding Fathers to cut ties and form the country's first political parties. Join Feldman for some fascinating history of American factionalism -- and a hopeful reminder about how the Constitution has proven itself to be greater than partisanship.
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As interesting as this is, I'm in the comments section just waiting for the Hamilton references
We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equally.😂
Anna R lmaooo! Did u watch it? I did with the understudy not Miranda. I can't even imagine how amazing it would have been with him
Honestly same
Madison: Look I wrote like 29 essays
Hmailton: Just finished my 51st today
Madison: ...
@Lucas Baker An important point here to is quality over quantity - quantity without quality is superficial, quality without insufficient quantity may be ineffectual. But on balance, in total, James Madison’s work was of far higher quality and utility and significance than Hamilton’s. But it was also limited in vision to some degree which Hamilton recognized on some issues. Generally speaking (or at least in optimum circumstances) ideologically, conservatives restrain liberals from imposing overly dramatic change too quickly without properly understanding the broader implications, and liberals prevent conservatives from holding on to outdated and counterproductive or unjust traditions or features of the status quo.
This dude looks like a combination of Benedict Cumberbatch and Matthew mcConaughey
DMT yesssss
The media, namely major news outlets, is definitely part of the problem. The "With us or against us" attitude is ridiculous.
Nathan Gatten
It's not a new problem. The news media of the past was little different. Just the distribution has changed. There were versions of CNN, Fox, Alex Jones, NPR, nothing really new except the ability to wipe out civilization in a few minutes with nukes. We'll get through this (hopefully)
Nathan Gatten+ One Globe. One Source Of News.
The people's ignorance is the other half of the problem
This is interesting in a lot of ways, but I think it unfairly places blame for partisanship on Hamilton and Madison. Hamilton and Madison were great partners in politics who, even when they disagreed, worked well together to bring about the constitution. Then Thomas Jefferson came back to the country and fucked everything up. Jefferson manipulated Madison and was the real driving force behind partisanship. John Adams was the real partisan behind the Federalists. Even if Hamilton was the brain and soul of the party, it was Adams who really focused on winning elections(The alien and seditions acts are entirely on Adams, not hamilton)
Yup
JOHN JAY FELL ILL AFTER WRITING ONE JAMES MADISON WROTE 26 HAMILTON WROTE THE OTHER FIFTY ONE (probably got that wrong.)
5, 29, 51
Eh, 1 outta 3 ain't bad.
Fam
TheTetrapod so close.
BonBon 05
*JAMES MADISON WROTE FIVE-
BonBon 05 john Jay wrote 5, James Maddison wrote 29, and HAMILTON WROTE THE OTHER 51
9:40
THE ELECTION OF 1800
CAN WE GET BACK TO POLITICS?
please?
Ugh What
YO!
Ugh What the established elite are trying to point you in any direction away from clues that ties them directly to the political money scheme
Ugh What if u want to know what controls politics, it is money and resources ... Money is a means to resources... And money is exactly what started the "Federal Reserve" in 1890s (1913 to b exact)... Follow the money from there and u will know exactly who controls political resources
Every action has an equal opposite reaction, John Adams shat the bed, I love the guy but he's in traction...
Kayla Christian *pLeAsE*
I feel like he is just trying to paraphrase the whole second part of the musical while keeping his hands together and restraining his desire to rap. I mean, how can you talk about hamilton and not be jumping about the stage ? That man has some real restraint.
I'm a simple woman, I see Hamilton in the title, I click.
🔥🔥🔥Because Alexander Hamilton is on $10 bills, does that make them Hamiltens?🔥🔥🔥
Let's not forget the most important founding father: Button Gwinnett
Good to know I wasn't the only one thinking this 😂
Kaotic Drew what's my name? Button Gwinnett!
Just want to put it out there at the stuff about limiting press was a battle between John Adams (federalist) & Thomas Jefferson (Republican) a lot more than Hamilton and Madison, as they ended up having to take a backseat in their respective parties.
for some reason hearing a TED talk speaker publically call Hamilton pansexual made me cry
TED is one who taught me about public speaking a lot... Thanks a lot.....
Hamilton writes like he's running out of time
Hamilton writes like it's going out of style.
BonBon 05
writes day and night like he needs it to survive
prehistoric Orcid writes day and night like tomorrow won't arrive.
Leaf Soup
Are you tuning out if time are you running out of time
@@prehistoricorchid3455 he writes like a poet, only focuses on rhymes
Madison, you're mad as a hatter. Son, take your medicine. Damn, you're in worse shape than the national debt is in.
I'm sexually attracted to men in white curly wigs. Hamilton is my crush.
Lorem Ipsum amadeus ♡
Electoral college is a good system. Popular vote has much more flaws in presidential elections. Income inequality is not 'enslavement'. The guy making $1,000,000 a year did not steal from the guy only making $45,000 a year.
There are a bunch of uncertain points in this speech that are manifest even to people who are not from the US. Most of them are caused by the fact that an historian should have given this speech, not some law scholar.
Southern mother fUCKIN DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICANS
WHOOO
NOW FOLLOW THE MONEY AND SEE WERE IT GOES
OH
Liam Welch BECAUSE EVERY SECOND THE TREASURY GROOOWS
OH
WE'LL FOLLOW THE MONEY AND SEE WHERE IT LEADS
GET IN THE WEEDS look for the seeds of Hamilton's misdeeds
Best talk in a long time.
Dopamine Media it really was
Looks on RUclips
I CANE AS SOON AS I HEARD
the one man band Band aaaaaAAANGELICAA ALL THE WAY FROM LONDON?!!!?! DAMMMM
Oh look, educated people can be patriotic, too. And here I was thinking it could only be kindergarten dropouts.
This talk from 3 years ago sounds great. I wonder how Noah would ammend his talk now in 2020.
The guy giving the talk looks a bit like Benedict Cumberbatch
Honestly just clicked on this cause Hamilton was in the title #noregrets
L H same.
It's going to be okay for some people. What he doesn't tell you is all the suffering that went on among various groups of Americans during the time and I'm not just talking about minority groups.
How can I say no to watching this, when no amount of hamilton will leave me satisfied.
Wow. I wasn't expecting much from this talk, but that was absolutely incredible.
there were no "coasts" at the time, almost all original colonies were along the east coast and that's all there was.
How about ranked (proportional) voting? People say US elections go terribly wrong because there are existing systems that work well.
Seems that he doesn't like Madison. You can write a song about anyone, even an unemotional politician. Both were great men.
Beware History obsessed children you are about to see what the Hamilton fandom looks like
"he was pansexual" laurens/hamilton confirmed good night
Great presentation. Those last few words are something we should all remember.
Should've been Hamilton vs Jefferson
Madison was more of the combative figure of the duo. Jefferson often called upon Madison to respond to Hamilton's views, with those responses then becoming a platform for the Republicans.
i clicked so fast i thought this was benedict cumberbatch
Fantastic talk. As Scalia said, the genius of our Constitution spans beyond the Bill of Rights. It's structure of checks and balances moves us along, even when we feel stalemated.
Scalia at his Oxford speech, said the Bill of rights was useless.
Madison you mad as a hatter so take your medicine, dam you in worse shape than the national debt is in!
Let's be honest here. How many of you actually came here because of Hamilton?
The comment section had me dying. I LOVE YOU HAMILFAM
watch this at 2x speed.
And there is a reason Trump is trying to change the voting limit to 51... So he can govern however he wants.
I loved this talk I needed to hear this and it gives me so much peace. It’s going to be ok!
I thought him as Benedict Cumberbatch
Its working because there hasnt been another civil war? Surely there has got to be a better barometer than that. I would argue its not working. We are falling in many categories and we are middle of the pack in many areas when it comes to things like education health science innovation manufacturing design etc etc
My personality is a heavy mix of James Madison and Alexander Hamilton, mostly James Madison.
*What did I miss?*
Having read the Federalist Papers and Locke I can tell you it was an interesting time at the end of the 18th century.
The topic was interesting but I got really lost when he began talking about candidates needing the center to win. What does that have to do with partisanship?
He also that the political energy came from the edges and moved toward the center.
Watching this on Nov 23, 2020 as a non-Trump GOP voter. I, clearly, can hear in his inflection how the audience was freaking out that Trump got elected. Like he said, we always think that what's happening now is so unique and important. Just chill.....AND STOP GIVING POWER TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH!
Politicians s managed to undermine the principals.
Today, center means "I let you limit people's rights, if you agree, that I can limit other rights."
The parties are like two lumberjacks, chopping on the tree of liberty, one piece at a time,
He forgot the listen to the other side and determine which of their points are valid criticisms of your own position.
So why keep this system if you can have the wonderful democracy system of Switzerland. Nobody would suffer from that system. Everybody would be involved: the people and the parties. It works perfectly.
Steffighter144 I kind of agree, but it would be so difficult, especially to change. Switzerland has 8.3 million people and the size of the Carolinas. USA has 323 million people.
Leave it to the Internet to take a thought provoking video and turn into a fucking musical reference
Here come the Hamilton references just.... wait for it
*runs back to small hole in wall*
God fucking damn it, I _knew_ there were going to be a ton of Hamilton comments just by the title. Ffs.
you say that like its a bad thing when its not
Der ferk ? I thought it was Hamilton / Jefferson debates ? Anyone ? Bueller ?
Underrated
The labels of the players and any semblance of relevance is over stated. in other words too much emphasis on identity politics.
It's not working now.
Blame the media for the divisiveness
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More likely Jefferson.
00:13
buddy was yapping about a whole a lotta nothing
It works, but I think it could work better.
Thomas we are engaged in a battle for our nation's very soul, can u get us out of the mess were in, we have to win
I'm just here to watch the wave of hamiltrash comments. I am not dissapointed.
This is an interesting take, but it seems pretty false, as the the current government found a solution, don't do anything and blame the other side for nothing being done.
He is creating a straw man to attack.
Divisiveness?
Like "super-mega-far-right" vs "far-right"?
spare me
Excuse me, but buying the press and silencing people that disagree with you is a leftist ideal.
Like this
Yes it goes all the way back difference is that then it worked Now it ain't working!
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이남자 참 잘생겼다. 잘생긴 얼굴 보러 강의듣게됨
gramerly getting annoying
Hamilton was the worst of them all.