Interview: Life advice from Genesis P-Orridge
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Genesis P-Orridge, singer of the band Psychic TV, speaks about romantic, unconditional love and gives advice how we can overcome the fear of dependency and failure in relationships. The interview took place on September, 19th, one day before the Psychic TV gig in Berlin.
RIP. I didn't always understand you, but I know for sure that the world needs people like you - people who experiment, explore and abandon convention. People who aren't afraid.
Beautifully said.
Everyone's afraid. Courage is doing the thing despite the fear.
RIP to all Those who do not ...
Well said 💖
act normal
I seem to have a knack for finding people that I really, really like right after their death
yep,thats what happens,the grubs control the information like that
Or you were positioned in time to assimilate and carry on. The grubs have no control.
"The only activity worthwhile in this world: trying to unveil mysteries, and lead pleasurable, sensual, stimulating, and dangerous lives. There's no other reason to be here" (Genesis P-Orridge). Well, the world is much less interesting now with he/r passing. 💔
Thats dire
the uncanny paralells are a reveal
that its a realisation of awareness and clarity to be me.
@@terrymckenna3382 to be this kind of thing,is not reliant upon acceptance by minions...the dimension of time reveals the fleeting human experience..theres a limit to exceed,theres always us being amongst the herd ....expressing individuality .
I miss her so much. TOPY documentary “A Message from Thee Temple” in process. Close to coumpletion
And it’s our job to compensate. :)
i hope that you are together again, whole.
they always were together.
how we wish
It was meant to be. Beautiful and selfless.
They are in hell lol
I notice when the crowd was speaking too loudly in the background the first time, Genesis kept talking and didn't seem to notice. But the second time, Genesis was quoting Lady Jaye and told the crowd to shhhh to make sure Lady Jaye's words would be heard. The love is so real.
Genesis is such an amazing mind and human.I wish nothing but great health as they are battling cancer. Get well soon Genesis
Sadly they didn't make it at I'm sure you know by now
40+ years you have inspired, taught and given me knowledge, practice and insight. From my being part of TOPY and rediscovering Thee Process I owe you everything Rest In Power 23
Rest in peace Genesis .
Sad loss💔
Really? That's a shame, his work in TG was very influential to me and read up on their past as well as about TOPS as well. He came through some wild times, and his work helped me through some of mine too.
serious, very serius allegations of rape and torture of a whole bunch of kids through the years, and some adults; Jacqui Dillon one of the most important mental health advocates and sexual violence survivors survived this guy, she lived next door to it (a monster);
"the whole point of life is to eventually reunify with our divine self"whoa,that"s one very wise remark.
I don't find that statement any wise... can you explain the meaning of "reunify with our divine self"? How is our self split? What does it mean that our self is divine? What's the exact meaning of "divine"? Can you prove even if our self exists? And I'm saying that because some antropological facts like Do Kamo, wich proves that can be people with no self at all...
no i can"t explain this carlos.it is something you got to believe in.there are no facts here and to me genesis p orridge got his point across.
Of course you can't explain it, nobody can... and I'm sorry, but I find faith indecent if you're trying to communicate something. I don't believe in you simply because what you're saying is merely said. You have to explain it with a base in some prove, If not you're no more than a sophist
hi carlos,like you said very well already,i can"t articulate certain feelings nor give you any prove,it just is.if you have a firm believe in your so called divine self than you can deal better with certain situations.
Viejotrueno divinity transcends any conception of the word meaning.
Rest in peace, you glorious being. Thank you for the years of tremendous music and art.
Genesis has been within my consciousness since 1979 when I first heard Throbbing Gristle perform live, 'See You Are' on May 19th - my birthday. Fascinated by these artists who were so unique, so creative, so individualistic, I began my forty three year admiration for everything TG did regardless of liking it or not liking it. Art comes in many forms to be sure, Throbbing Gristle and their extended output is proof of that easily. But nobody created a work of art from the deepest part of each other and the love shared for each other, so overpowering to become each other, as these two did. The ultimate compliment and the ultimate work!
Hahahahhaha he's dead hahah
@@xulphyte you too one day 🤓
I can't say I'm a fan as such but, even so, what an absolutely extrordinary individual, and riveting to listen to. I'm reading Cosi's autobiography at the moment, which is why I am here...
i knew of him. but only listened to his music today. and im impressed psychic tv are good. throbbing gristle absolute crazyscary stuff
You might want to check out Genesis' books and writings. Such an interesting person and life. Cheers to you.
Pixel1962 Well put. Intelligent, and highly creative and dead.
R.I.P Gen! At least you and Lady Jane are together again and the pain has ended!!!!
They were never separated!!! they are of each other!!!!
I was a participant in a art project,that became so much more to those of us involved...Thee Temple or Psychic Youth.I am no longer young,but my love for Genesis is forever young and fresh.
Partaking in something so personal will undeniably leave a mark. Raw art at its finest
TOPY IS ETERNAL
RIP Genesis, you were an inspiration.
Wish there was more love in this world.
Agreed ✌🏻❤
Well Genesis has created a lot of pain in this world by abusing children
Yes. You never hear people complain that there is too much love in the world x
@@TJay96 they never abused children. that was slanderous propaganda....please do some research before just saying things
@@grungeangel420 I know someone who was abused by genesis, his aquaintances and her mother as they lived opposite. Her mum was a MASSIVE fan of genesis and was a sick POS. Believe what you want, but I'm not talking about some shit i read off the internet
I may not agree... I may not understand.... but I love that you lived, and spoke, and gave me something to think about.
A living legend and still humble. Amazing guy.
+Fishslap 33 Yes, obviously - of humble, inconspicuous, appearance. Alternatively an egomaniacal exhibitionist.
Pan oRoya
Don´t you think he´d be more commercial if he was?
oh no. thats part of the myth@@politicallycorrectredskin796
THIS PERSON IS A GENIUS, I WOULD RATHER HEAR HER THAN 100 RELIGIOUS PPL, GEN HAS WISDOM FROM EXPERIENCE I LOVE PSYCHIC TV I WISH I COULD FIND REALISTIC PPL
WHO KNOW THE MECHANICS OF LIFE AND SEE THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT REALITY IS TRULY STRANGER THAN WE WERE TAUGHT TO BELIEVE. IT CAN BE UGLY OR BEAUTIFUL ITS UP TO US, HEAVEN OR HELL? CHOOSE LIFE.
What an interesting person. Always found Genesis just fascinating. R.I.P. You are missed.
Simply wisdom from one of nature's remarkable beings. Thank you Gen.
Thank you for this wonderful upload/interview. I remember in the late 1970's seeing Throbbing Gristle perform & being very scared in good way! they seemed so scary & Fantastic at the same time to me as a Kid. But G. P. is a wonderful open person, one always feels better for listening to him.
Jamie O'Callaghan as far as TG goes i dont quite feel better for listening to them myself, i feel fear and something else i cant quite put my finger on.
Mostly via hamburger lady correct???
i've been a fan of Gen for most of my life from TG+Ptv. the love in which Gen & Lady Jaye shared deeply inspired My soulmate and i, who were/are- very much in love. she sadly passed away suddenly and tragically, (my fiancee) in the December of 2016. her birthday was March 14th, which i was celebrating at the day & time that Genesis passed on. Gen+Lady Jaye are now reunited, like i will be reunited with my Soulmate (late fiancee) when it is my time to pass on.
@Uni Spectra Yes please i am a lonely cloud 🌧️
Thank you for visiting you have given... May you enjoy peace until you come again...
I wish I could have seen this interview sooner, feeling the way I feel now.
I cried watching it, this deep sense of loss in there stories is too real
Proven woth it n i was no way id leave.
“Gender fluid” before it was mainstream. Thought provoking insights here from somebody who lived life only on their terms.
Honey we've always been here. ;-)
It’s never been mainstream tho it’s just.. fine to do now.
@@kreistraum274 I'm trans and may not be able to go to the doctor. I can wind up in men's institutions and shelters. It's very possible my life will end in a random hate crime. It's not mainstream for me.
Or fine.
It isn't some fuckin trend my guy.
In memory of my Friend James Ballard Orlando Florida 1990-2001 We are stardust ….shine on James .
Bo Strickland Why did he die so early?
Why is this about you and James?
love these sort of open ended discussions where a point is always to be made however subtle
as much as i like avante garde and experimental music , i struggle with throbbing gristle, but what an interesting and captivating human being genesis was .RIP
Great interview. He’s with Lady Jane now, up in the cosmic light.
Such a nice place this interview is to come back when everything gets cold, thank you both.
My God bless you Gen , I know you're going through a difficult time now Xxxx Love and Hugs
❤❤
I like how she doesn't use "I".
yeah, she uses "we" but i heard her also say "me" its puzzling but makes me want to know more about her
Wow this interviewer was fantastic. Excellent pre written questions, and great follow ons to what Genesis actually said. Really thoughtful and engaging interview.
Thank you!
Im not a scholar on the subject, but if anyone is intrested. Genesis is invoking ideas that I found on Nausea from Jean Paul Sartre, and long before that, there is the idea of Plato that says: "Body is a prision" as we see on the alegory of the cave, but as I said, I'm not an expert in this subject.
Creation of entities is a higher dimensional 'blending' of consciousnesses facilitated by relenquishing the will to a substrate of potentiation directed by forces that specialize in the 'alchemical process'.
One must be able to 'channel' or 'incarnate' as other entities in order for the process to work properly. Submission of the ego to the 'back seat' is an essential part of the process by which one's own consciousness becomes the observer and the will of another entity takes over.
As your individual consciousness observes the examples set by the acting entity, a new subset of conscious elements is formulated which can later be evoked for a purpose or purposes appropriate for different situations.
Too bad on the background noise on the video, regardless, s/he is one of the most brilliant minds, being a non-conformist myself I gravitate these ideas.
Sooo vertraut 😍 alles das! Danke für dieses wundervoll einfühlsame Interview! 😍
Thank you for uploading this interview. GP-O is such a deep, thoughtful, thought provoking person.
Love Genesis 💖 watching in 2022 💖
love u genesis, thank u for ur deep wisdom, you keep blowing my mind and melting my heart, rest in peace _()_
Fascinating character. 🌹
Rest in peace! Genesis P😔🙏✋✌
I have always felt that way about my body. It's an obsolete instrument.
+mechanesthesia Yep, me too.
And I thought tattooing your partner's name on your arm was going too far.
It's so sad to hear him say this but you know it's life as he is telling us in great detail.
The urge to become each other in a relationship strongly suggests codependency. This is not something to admire. The music, on the other hand, I listen to all the time and I really love it.
i partially agree but it is an urge everyone has and leads to codependency only if you arent careful. id love to hear more about this topic though, this is the first time ive seen it brought up :)
It's what was said Divine Alchemy, We are Created from Love, by Love, in Love to Love. Love Heals.
Andre, dude next time you interview an intriguing artist, go to a quiet room.
oh, Gen...wish no such words and programs were put onto Thy bodies. would've loved to see Thy sweet face for another decade..a gift to humanity
What an amazing person...
Great interview of a great human. Thanks for this.
It's meant to be an exploration.
I will miss them so much, such an inspiration and Pioneer of industrial music, got to see him play twice with Pigface, absolute legend....
Twice with pigface?
Rest in power!
Nuts? Possibly. But still intensely interesting and whenever I hear them/s/he talk, there's a certain amount of envy. What would it be like for me to just completely let go of all convention?
There often is a price to pay for such free / abstract thinking and usually it is a deep dark past that they must carry always and are always trying to give the slip to. Such freedom is a cry for help from a type of imprisonment. Like you say, it is not clear, she/they might have been having a rich gay and blissful time of it all and good luck to anyone that tries to get there too.
It couldn’t have been easy for him to do so, specially if he went to school in Stockport!!!!
Extremely fascinating person.
we all lost you ...for now..then again you will be back in our lives again surprised I will be ..maybe not ... I expect nothing ...not yet ..yes I do !
Love you, Gen.
After coming across this interview, some of the things GPO said led me to think… Something I rarely do and don't particularly enjoy.
I have always wondered what the first organism was that replicated itself and why. I really mean this, why? What purpose does it, or did it serve for that organism to do so, and was it even aware of it entering into the process? Maybe I've not read enough, but I don't recall ever hearing anyone ask that question. As if reproduction is something to take for granted, because it is so fundamental to our very existence, as well as all living organisms. It eventually became just one more aspect of life that we take for granted. So much so, that everything involved leading up to the process has become compartmentalized, and as such has never occurred to us whether we ever had any real choice in the matter. And yet, despite all this, here we are. Still wondering what was the first organism to do so, and why did it occur in the first place? I must assume that it did not require two genders or even a partner to initiate the process. Most likely, it was self-replicating. One thought that occurs from time to time is that perhaps there were many millions of single celled organisms coming and going in and out of existence, none of which or very few of them randomly replicating. Maybe they weren't capable, or their attempts at it failed (which begs the question as to what prompted the organism to even try?). I have to assume that the process was nothing more than the result of a random occurrence - many random occurrences spread out along a very long period of time. And then at some point one random occurrence succeeded, and its copies survived to do the same.
Throughout the millennia, perhaps there were occasional instances of replicating organisms, but for various reasons there were failures. As everyone knows, it is one thing to reproduce, but a completely different thing to survive as Life is a harsh bitch, and she gives no love just because you exist. So it is probably very likely that whatever came of the reproduction or split, didn't often have a chance to survive long enough to do the same. Or perhaps it was so random an occurrence, that just because one organism replicated itself did not mean its progeny could or were triggered into doing the same. Until at one point in time, there was an organism that replicated, and by sheer dumb luck its offspring did so as well and with even more sheer dumb luck succeeded at surviving and replicating too. Not to say there may have been many other failures afterward, leaving the whole damn random mess to have to begin again. But it doesn't matter because we are here, along with so many other living creatures. So, at some point in time the aftermath of reproduction must have been so great as to overcome the point of any failures as they occurred, whether by the offsprings flaws, or by outside circumstances.
That is a very Darwinesque way of thinking about it. Which leads me to conclude that reproduction is the result of nothing more than random occurrence - sheer dumb luck. Meaning, it was no more than the random occurrence of the rock upon which we (sit, stand, walk, or shit) upon forming into a ball long enough to develop into a petri dish of properties conducive to the process of f**king eventually becoming a thing.
Fancy that!
All this randomness and evolution, leading us to where and who are now. Just a bunch of smelly meat bags with arms, legs, brains, and hands with opposable thumbs, all existing for no other reasons but to satisfy the innate need to breed. But think about it. The whole mess was all dependent upon nothing more than the male member having this uncontrollable need for some pleasurable satisfaction based on friction and finding its itch satisfied within the warm, moist birthing canal of the opposite sex! Well, not always, but that's another subject all together. In other words, the instinct to reproduce having no other reason to exist than that was not a part of the cognitive process at all! It was all about scratching the itch of pleasure!
Therefore, all the emotions, the feelings of love, union, oneness, largely based on some form of physical and/or emotional attraction, etc., were and are nothing more than bio-neural occurrences meant solely to lure us into coitus, with the act of procreation hardly a consideration. Remember, just as every other walky-crawly creatures upon the planet, for many tens of thousands of years, the intellectual relationship between coitus and reproduction just didn't exist. Oh, sure assumptions were made at some point that somehow, when one and one came together, it soon made three - fuzzy math and all. Thus, the selection of mates based on attractiveness and the perceived capacity to support, protect, and aid in the care of the brood as well as the baby maker is nothing more than the result of millennia of learned behavior that had gone on to deeply implant itself into the deepest recesses of our brains. Long before the more intellectual brain meat pieces had developed, these relationships were embedding and etching themselves upon our lizard brains, thus becoming what we consider an instinct. The same way, it occurred with every other living creature in existence still managing to survive and reproduce successfully to carry on its species.
So, everything we do to make ourselves attractive, the haircuts, the cologne, the clothes, the primping and pampering, the working out to build big muscles to attract the other sex. All of it is nothing more than to provide the lizard brain of the baby maker with the eggs what it needs to assure itself that you are a healthy, successful, well-adapted specimen of the opposite sex. And just like the plumes of a peacock, all this outward appearance is nothing more than tools to demonstrate that you are worthy enough to allow penetration of your thingy into her thingy, so your sperm can have a chance at impregnating the egg within her belly thus allowing you to satisfy that insatiable itch!
And to think, that today, billion dollar markets exist and depend upon this itch!
But in the end, other than that, does it really have any purpose? It all appears to be nothing more than happenstance… a result of a rather chaotic and random occurrence, which may or may not have occurred-ever. Yet, due to the sheer magnitude of the numbers involved, it was bound to happen. So what does that little piece of information mean in the greater puss-filled scheme of things? That it was nothing more than an inevitability based upon possibility and probability? Or that, if left to its own devices at some point down the line, millennia upon millennia, some random slurry of proteins would eventually come together to form a simple blob of life. And with a lot more millennia(s), and a lot more randomness, eventually that blob would be triggered into splitting itself apart, thus creating some more of itself - a mini me of sorts. Only a whoooooole lot smaller and a whoooooole lot slimier.
Who the f**k knows!
In any case, procreation became a thing. A new norm amongst the slimy protein blobs who must have had itches of their own prompting them into splitting themselves apart, in all that mess… Not at all unlike the process we go through today when you think about it.
The situation did eventually evolve, albeit millions and millions of years later, into what we have now… a slurry of horny young men doing all they can to capture, convince, and bed the lady of their attention just to spend five minutes in total ecstasy (at least for him) where his thingy gets into her thingy and eventually causes her to divide and split into two.
… or something like that.
Saw PTV in Toronto this week, great show.
Saw them Saturday night in Boston. First time they'd been there in 26 years, third in almost 35 years. Happened to be the night of Gen's first granddaughter's birthday and he sang "Just Drifting" for her like he did for the daughter he wrote it for (who had the baby). The show was pretty tame for PTV, but still enjoyable nonetheless. Glad to be there. I also caught his drummer's drumstick. :P
Heard about Genesis through Jason Louv. Fascinating.
I've only just come across Gen!!!! I'm fascinated!!! by what he has to say!!!
People are surprised whenever i say that Genesis was NOT transgender. He is not a male nor a female. He is a combination of himself & the love of his life....Lady Jaye.
I may not agree with everything they said, but what a fascinating human being.
Fucking brilliant. I've learned so much from this interview. We have an open relationship. I'm happy I have a partner/friend in my life whom I tremendously love. We're going on 7 years, so we must be doing something right.
Deefex dB guess it works for some but not all
Still together now?
Fascinating band.
Gen the SAGE. Such words of comfort and wisdom. “And don’t forget, see the cliff, jump off”
Awww man...I loved you.
I love listening to this knowledge
Great to see Courtney Love getting out and about .
Thank you !!!!
Thank you , very much I am anti fascist anti zionist etc .
Have you seen the 'crocodile tears' clip by Norman Finkelstein
left the right both a pile of shite
Degenerative1 Fuck you. I spat on my keyboard. LOL
sorry about that.!!
THATS A FUCKING GREAT INTERVIEW. First time ever that i hear Genesis speaking.Those are wise words.
The audio in this is unbearably horrible. But the interview just barely makes it worth it. Because Gen is someone we all can learn from
This man is a type of Messiah .The panegyne feels trapped in a body . limitations . Amazing how deep these people are yet when u come to the media it all is translated as sensationalist when its about the enemies of freedom of Thought . Conformity is always the subtext of culture:that must be fought! I believe TG ,Genesis and all their history and projects really stems from the authentic ,the real ! Its not for shock but it does shock. It's funny howat the end he is making this voice and piano soft music .Not a surpriseeverything comes full circle . Wisdom,new ideas are how we grow !
L'amour + fort que la mort ! Love for ever to Genesis .
How come he says "we would wouldn't have met J" realy love Ge there's something I just can't put my finger on that I feel very connected to Gen.. such an inspiring character
RIP I hadn’t followed your work until now, but I wish I had. ❤
Beautiful Wisdom!
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I just made a track using the last part of this interview as the intro and honor to Genesis!🎹🎧💫😵 rest in peace😔🙏✋✌ c a cliff jump off!
I go to Polka shows and have good times with people attuned to Reality.
Rest in peace
This is exactly the last person you should be taking life advice from lol.
Eloquent, chilled and just....lovely!
Of course I'd heard of Throbbing Gristle , but sadly never really checked them out , I don't know why . But I certainly wish I did !
I was a big Virgin Prunes fan , and a lot of people sort of say that TG were just as interesting and were there before the Virgin Prunes !
Anyway I still love the Prunes , but I'm very much looking forward to checking TG out !
RIP Gen.
How come I've only discovered this person now?
What I'd give to have a chat now...
Genesis is brilliant, obviously. This is strange though, I watched this with my dog. Who has never given a fuck about laptops before. But when S/he started talking my dog leaned in really close and watched intently and started sniffing the screen and pawing at Genesis's face and the keyboard.Broke the "G" key off. Maybe theres a little Jaye in her...
Cute!!! ❤ so fascinating
A very switched on person , Very refreshing perspective . You should come for dinner Mr porridge . Regards Cheryl .
Genesis you will always be in our hearts !
丰 L-Ov-Ǝ 丰 TЯ23 丰 Back in no time... until then, will miss my sister Gen. Rest In Power. Gen & Jaye now together as one.
Ahead of her time . . .
See the documentary on their life to see more of this intense connective ness…at a time in which they were both alive . . .
I saw Genesis at the movie theater before that documentary. She spoke only briefly. After the movie she gave a live performance at another venue. I listened outside, as the capacity had been (more than!) reached.
The world requires dissidents and mavericks. R.I.P. Genesis and…..
RIP Genesis
You incredible soul, P-Orridge !!!!!!!
What a wise person.
Beautiful, I love you so much, so sad to lose you.
Rest in power
the origin of our species is one unified being but then it splits, and perhaps we're here to learn our own story as beings and reunify with our divine self.
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I Love you Gen Gen you are so Beautiful! Good Health to you!
This was an amazing interview.
RIP you will be missed xx
Genesis: Legend
RIP 1950 - 2020 🥀🥺