This is What a $1,000 3D Scanner Gets You! Scanning Warhammer!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2022
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Thanks to Revopoint 3D for sending us a scanner to try out!
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I received the same scanner, but unfortunately, I see it being useful for terrain and bigger minis only, definitely not 28-32 mm scale or warhammer minis. I expected it to scan those with high precision, but was quickly disappointed with the result. Your video, however, gives me some cool ideas - scan everything in your room, shrink it down and make a small diorama of your room! And quirky stuff like that. Great vid guys
also since it works with bigger models pretty nicely, whitch just happen to be the more expensive ones. i imagine you can get pretty good knights, tanks, greater demons and the like with pretty good detail.
Would be cool to scan stuff that only comes as like an action figure size and shrink em down.
If I remember right, one tactic used for making some kingdom death miniatures is that they sculpted them large and scanned them, later reducing for production. So as a maker of miniatures it might have some potential.
Edit: I think they did this with the “cockroach queen” miniature
@@firmak2 now you've got me thinking, titanicus or epic stuff ? Could be so cool! Love the idea of shrinking inquisitor minis down to 40k size also, but not sure if they're big enough to get enough detail scanned.
I like it to have the 3d scan as a size and proportions reference to then 3d model parts
It would be cool to see how the bigger figures like the mcfarland or joytoy space marines because then you could do custom poses and shink them down to normal mini size. You can also use this for kit bashes, the joytoy space marines are about the same size as Gunpla kits and other Japanese figures so you can give them some of those types of accessories and scan them to mini sizes.
Dude thats such a cool idea!
i don't think scaling them down would look good, they're meant for a larger scale and they wouldn't read correctly at a smaller scale. Details would be lost and it would look noisy overall
Awwww man scan in some Gunpla and scale them down to stand in as Tau suits. That’d be pretty slick.
@@user-ff2mu4fh4v maybe in the initial days of 3d printing, but current printing capabilities would have no issue going smaller at all, especially resin printing
@@blchfnby i didn't mean the actual precision of the 3d printer, i meant more the design of the models. An example to explain this is imagine if you took a 1:1 scale car, and scaled it down to 2 inches. A lot of details would be way too small to make sense, and it would end up not reading well visually at that scale. That's why when designers make toy cars replicae, they simplify a lot of details that just wouldn't make sense at that scale. This is just something that I,ve noticed with experience designing stuff
Jay rolling two D6 over and over by himself really resonated deeply with me.
Definite really neat idea taking the big boy forgeworld marine and shrinking them down. I imagine you could do similar with a mcfarlane primaris, pose them how you wanna, and then scan them in posed how you want. As for what I'd wanna see scanned next - either taking inquisitor minis and shrinking them to normal 40k scale, or using it to give marines weird properly scaled object to have, like a video game controller, or a nerf gun, or an egg beater.
Have one space marine in your army on his phone and have another having a quick sandwich. Then hide them amongst the rest of your army and see if anyone notices.
Haha I was thinking of the same thing! Posing larger figures to scan scale down and use for 40k! But the scanner is pretty expensive
@@andydogdad4349 Could fuck around with the smartphone apps that are already out there. Won't be as good as the expensive scanner, btu learn some 3d modeling skills and you can make up for the gap, probably
@@AshleyBlackwater good idea!
Last time I was this early inquisitors had terminator armor
As an Epic 40K player.. Scan regular 40K figures and try to scale them down to Epic scale. I've been wanting for GW to attack the Epic scale with all their new techniques and materials, but as any fan of GW's stuff know.. it's a waiting and wishing game :)
What a perfect cut at the end! Nick is the true chad. But I still love Jay's monitor.
That Ending.... LMAO!!!!
haha xD
Bit of up scaling
Did they get the panoramic edition 🤔
MY CO-
Cool experiments!
It could be funny to continue to scan, print, scan, print... until you end up with some amorphous blob and then paint the set as best you can? Would also be fun to see Giga-Gretchin used in a game!
You can take the new Joy Toy Warhammer action figures, scan these in different poses, scale down and print to make a custom posed army!
Always great to see Nick, and his childish humor that ending was perfect LMAO
Ngl the end was exactly what we expect and yet still 😂
Washing those Minifigs hit the ground was like watching heresy being committed in a grand Cathedral
Omg that ending...you guys are the best
For a thousand bucks, I better not have to resculpt my models. Technology is no where CLOSE yet.
Damn I’m impressed. That Grot has no details to begin with so I don’t think it came out too bad!
the way the details on the big models gets tighter as it shrinks makes me wonder how good this would be for sculpting your own figure.
Smart! Build big, scan and shrink down
@@keatscast7434 I mean it's kinda just what they do with 3d models anyway, but I just like the idea of doing it the old fashioned way and sculpting things by hand...let's be honest though we all know we'd just scan our faces and make little marines of ourselves.
Interesting. The some models are sculpted 3-up (three times normal size) and then shrunk down with a 3d Pantograph. This could be a less tedious way of achieving that same effect.
We use 3d scanners at work (definitely on a much larger scale) and it's mostly used to get the size and shape right, then model the rest to get the details correct. Camera matching is an incredibly time consuming and tedious thing to master so scans can cut down the time and headache used to make things exact. I was thinking of getting one of these to scan and model my own custom noise marine army and some other projects like creating figures that never made it to production for some reason but the fans still wanted them. We will see...
OMG that grot! If you're looking for a new mascot, you found it. Make a plushy look that goofy and I am buying one.
Also, dunyon rings? Love it!
When this comes out I'm looking forward to people using this on discontinued terrain like the wall of martyrs or fortress of redemption
>fortress of redemption
This looks pretty simple - could learn some blender and bash it out in the amount of time it takes to earn $1000 to purchase this scanner and then have a skill to create more terrain whatever you like!
I find the choice for the miniature of Grand Moff Tarkin interesting as Peter Cushing was full on into miniature. There is even old videos of him painting them.
EOB, I love your channel. For some reason, people lump you in with youtube drama, but they are completely mistaken. You're basically the Bob Ross of 40k. I don't think I've ever seen you make a video that was anything but positive and encouraging. One suggestion/submission I think would be cool (especially after your water color video) would be to try to paint a mini using only locally sourced pigments. For example, beets stain everything purple, tomatoes make everything red, some leafy greens are just loaded with green chlorophyll that stains your clothes green and so on. Could make for an interesting video where you get all of your painting supplies from a grocery store.
love the interaction of the two individuals and different styles got my sub
Love this! Give them a couple of years and it’ll be in a lot of hobby setups. I imagine making miniature prototypes in a higher scale, shrinking them down and you have your own hand sculpted miniature army 🤩 thanks for the detailed breakdown!
GW knocking on your door in...3...2...
aside from copyrights, 3d scanning is awesome but still has a lot to improve on. will never be able to compare to an artist working in a 3d app or a sculptor.
Technology like that is way beyond my ken, but that’s pretty fascinating what you were able to capture. That scanner looks like a perfect fit for terrain-replication.
I would love a scanner that can accurately scan a sprue from two sides, so that I can print as many of that model as I want.
This is what I’m hoping to do.
The look on Jay's face when he asks if the spray really disappears
*doubt*
I think it would be really cool to take a blank miniature and scan it to get the 3D model. Then use said model in something like blender to texture it and apply lighting in order to inform how you paint the miniature. Kinda overkill but I bet with practice you could use it to create some hyper-realistic shading on models.
there is a painting app for your phone that does that from reference models, i forget the name though sorry.
*"Impcat"?* _(most probably)_
Or
"Citadel Colour: the app"?
This kind of reminds me of the early days of 3d printing, back then I said "I'll see where it is in 5 years" and bought one 3 years later. I'm feeling the same way with this, but I'll need to have a good reason to shell out 1K.
EDIT: Holy shit the terrain piece looks great. Citadel terrain is super expensive so if you make a lot of gaming boards or do a lot of terrain, this scanner could pay for itself within a couple years.
it really wouldn't. Ebay would be much cheaper ad easier
Imagine in 5 years to you can get 1 for 1 perfect scans and just 3d print miniatures nobody would even know were 3d printed.
And for 1000 dollars and GW prices it will pay for itself with like just 5 models printed
200 dollar per model ? Damn we are not buying the same models
The sad part is that you needed to say '5models' because if you have said '10 models' nobody would have understood the joke...
What a cool project! Great comparison and showcase of how the technology works. Also love a good Nick episode lol
Get yourself a buddy who is in dental prosthetics. Labs these days tend to have very capable 3d scanners. This seems like a very good way to preserve some of those old rare metal minis.
Fell out of my chair at the end lmao!
We use big versions of those scanners at work to scan the interiors of buildings. They are laser based and scan even small things like keys people leave on tables. Point clouds with billions or trillions of points. Impressive technology!
Slap a 90s gretchin in it and waste millions of your companies money.
That was wonderful. I felt like I was back in the 1980s watching TVO educational channel. Thanks!
I'm dying , the end, the best!
At this moment, the technology feel quite rough, but just like 3d printing, im eager to see where it goes, maybe in the future i will be able to a scan of oficial gw models and a 3d printer
I played around with meshroom some years ago and got decent results just using my phone camera and tons of photos. It is an art in itself getting good scans of stuff
I have a theory that those scaled down imperial space marines that jay painted are gonna look just like his retro space marine army
Nick beat me to it!!! My suggestion was gunna me “mmmaaaa cccccccooo” top video awesome content!! I love the pair of you and always look forward to your videos
Ok the real question is Nick going to have to up scale his scan?......lol love the content!
still waiting on my scanner i got one on the kickstarter. i would recommend the mini for the price and what it can do is worth the money. i paid about 2 grand for my original scanner and that is 0.1 accuracy this is 0.02. if you want to scan large items ie people or buildings or large objects then i would suggest the pop 1 if your low on cash but if you have spare i would go for the pop 2 for larger items. check out the videos on youtube. also nick if you place the item on its side you can scan again then turn onto its front rescan etc repeat. also. hang the black bag over the side of the table and hold the scanner between your legs or place on a small table. wear the black latex gloves as the scanner cant see the black and rotate the part about in your hands in front of the scanner. i have had a lot of good scans with the pop1 like this. also they are always updating the software. the last 3 updates have improved the quality of the scans no end. anyways you know where i am if you need any advice matey. and i cant wait to get hold of mine and see what i can do with it. :)
Ngl, this was a good video to wake up to on my birthday, thanks as always for the awesome content EOB!
Now you have a Space Marine Statue you can use on table top as well as a new Grot “Warboss” 🤣
Instead of their spray use Tenactin spray (athlete's foot spray). I do some freelance scanning and this will dull down a reflective surface and lighten up dark colours.
Also the scanner needs an HDR mode to use multiple exposures to get the light and dark areas (including in the shadows of the crevasse of the models). This would make the entire output much better.
John Madden’s voice arrived in my head unbidden at your mention of Tenactin. “Boom! Tough actin’ Tenactin!”
Love the ending!
I never would have dared to spray that sergeant white 🤯 cool product though!
Cool video. Thanks!
The end got me lol
I wonder if it might be easier to scan sub-assemblies of a miniature and then join the pieces together in the software of your choosing to get your final STL file. Legs, body, head, torso, arms....attach pins so the parts are "free floating". It would be interesting to test that and see if it helps the process.
What my mind went to is scanning my face and friends and making headswaps for out minis.
I think that combined with someone who has basic 3d modeling skills, something like this would help alot. Especially as the tech gets better in time its just gonna be another tool in the toolbox.
Also worth remembering that software will get better to. There's already phone apps out there that do this with mixed results, eventually this will bridge the gap and make the tech accessible to most people.
Hey man, as a content creator, you properly have all the kit to make 10X better scans via photogrammetry. The setup you use to record painting would be perfect 👍
Could you give any pointers what exactly os needed for this or where i can find a good tutorial on how to do it?
@@KT-pv3kl start by looking into a software called “reality capture”. It’s free to use all features until you export.
For a tip: Taking multiple photos from different angles with high overlap of a neutrally lit object with a matte, random, non repeating texture will give the best results.
That ending just killed me xD
This technology in a few years will be insane.
That’s an awesome piece of kit. The space marine turned out awesome. Jay as always fantastic paint job!! You guys getting a manta?!?!?!?
we're almost at the point where we can clone our own 28mm minis, GW need to be worried
Idk why I yelled when he dropped the Legos 😂
In fairness thar AT-RT driver is wearing camo so only right the scanner cant see him, it didn't pick up sly marbo either
looking forward to this
I see the best way of doing this to Buy yourself one of those large posable space marines, pose as you want, scan and print!
Great ending 😂😂
😂😂😂😂 that ending though
Fkn hell you two that was funny as hell and very informative, keep up the amazing work
That finish though 🤣
Even the professional scanners require a spray coat and markers to be accurate, that's pretty impressive
What you want for such small pieces like miniatures is a jewelry scanner. Those are able to scan from all angles with specific near field came in a very high resolution and pixel count. Good ones start at several thousand Euros.
The best ones are scanning in a sealed case and can hold the piece in mid air by basically creating an air cushion with several small air jets, they are even able to rotate the piece. So you can get a perfect 3D scan of the piece. However those costs several tenthousand Euros and are actually not easy to use.
I'd be interested it seeing someone scaling up the planes from areonotica imperialius (I'm sure I misspelled that). Supposedly they were first built at 28mm and scaled down so they should do fine being enlarged!
Great Vid!
The ending got me
There’s a genie that’s going to be impossible to put back in the bottle.This is truly exiting stuff, and they will only get cheaper and better as time goes on.
STL files are the new mp3s. Companies like GW need to get behind this, but I have a horrible feeling that at some point, we’ll be looking at a format that includes DRM, and possibly even legislation to protect intellectual copyright.
DRM didn't stop anything, it only made people bolder and care less lol. I know what you mean though lol, when money is involved these scumfuck companies shit themselves lmao.
Wow you guys are so skilled and great together. I wish I could let you do something for me
Try scanning sprues or parts of models still on sprues. You can later remove them and add supports.
Yep lmao or make yourself your very own titan foundry.
I love how the scan even picked up the blutak on the space marine.
My brother has a similar scanner for work, he mentioned it would be possible to scan my head and 3d print it scaled down so that I could really lead my army!
Knock knock...
Who's there?
GW
GW wh.... uh oh!
PERFECT CUT I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING
You guys are elite Warhammer hackers! I love it so much!
The end of this video makes me really excited for the new patreon STLs coming 🤤🤤
i can see this tech going the way of resin printers were at first they were spotty and expensive then extremely detail and cheap looking forward to the future boys
That's kewl.
This would be an amazing way to bring back 1st edition models.
I loved this video, Nick really stepping his game up with the editing Jay being a gem as usual real chefs kiss of an upload and I couldn’t decide what my favorite part was until the very last second “myyy C@C|
Super unrelated, but nicks new haircut is great
Interesting tech.
If you properly light the scan area with non-edgy-youtube-gamer lights there is a lot less dark area for the scan to miss. And they're definitely designed to scan matte neutral colors like primer or grey resin prints. Just scan before you paint.
The ending lol
I think the Einscan-SP would be actually capable of scanning 28-32mm scale mini's but it's also double the price .
thank god for kickstarter
The end should be a meme. Period.
You guys need to scan your own heads and put them on minis.
18:34 Crazy what you can tickle out with a good paintjob.
Hey wait. If the Gretchen is so big now, does that mean e's the boss?
Why did I know what Nick was going to scan next before he started to say it? Anyway- neato vid dudes! For the cheaper folks out there, there is a way to do something similar (with less stellar results) by using an Xbox 360 Kinect sensor- my wife's uncle did it and its... neat? Something to try if you get bored.
I love how Nick used the gloomspite gitz box
I bet this scanner is gold for people that can use blender and sharpen all the soft spots! I wonder what it would cost to get someone on Fiver to touch the stl up to snuff after I can it.....
Maybe take some of the Star Wars toys and scan them and scale them to Legion Scale.
It'd be great to see what ZBrush's claypolish (or other software equiv) can do on these with various settings. It's great at sharpening up plane-changes on doughy models, while averaging out some wobbles on surfaces.
I bet it'd be particularly good for using things that have solid real world equivalents, because scaling down is going to make the scan better and better. I wonder if you could do something interesting with magnifying glasses now that I think about it...