Fortress ef to discard is continuous and even if it does not starts a chain, the player has to decide to use it it. If he activated a "when" card (such as torrential tribute), then he's not using it at all.
Sorry I'm at work so replying is limited. So he doesn't decided to use it. If fortress is face up on the field when the effect that targets it, is resolving then fortress automatically discards from the opponents hand he doesn't chose to do it he HAS TO do it. But in this case since he torrential tribute himself fortress is gone and that continuous effect cannot be applied to the resolution of Gyzarus. If he had chained bottomless Gyzarus dies and then discards two cards from his hand.
Ya he shoulda gyzarus the ryko and backrow, then prisma contact fuse. In general though, don't monster target fortress unless you empty your hand first. It's a monster version of dustshoot if you don't.
Im sorry but i think it’s funny if he pulls out the phone to show a ruling on his own card but doesnt know its summon condition lmao Gbs too good. That prisma play would’ve been godly
Fortress doesn't activate, it's continuous. A card is discarded from the opponent's hand at the time the effect monster targeting it would resolve. But if Fortress gets destroyed before that, like if the field gets Torrential'd on Gyzarus's summon then Fortress's continuous effect can't be applied.
Yea he shouldn't have discarded for Fortress when the field got Torrential'd. Guy doesn't even know how his own cards work despite bringing up the ruling. Glad Javi still won though. Get it? GLAD he still won? GLAD?
Going x-1 in a 30-person tournament and not making top cut is crazy. Definitely should've been Top 8. I'd rather risk being undefeated and lose to an x-2 in Top 8 than be an x-1 and not make top cut. Just my two cents.
Facts moles more of a side card to many normals already in the main deck I agree with you on that take
He really loves the mole 😂
Fortress ef to discard is continuous and even if it does not starts a chain, the player has to decide to use it it. If he activated a "when" card (such as torrential tribute), then he's not using it at all.
@@AngelFknTasty I don't think you know how fortress works.
Sorry I'm at work so replying is limited.
So he doesn't decided to use it. If fortress is face up on the field when the effect that targets it, is resolving then fortress automatically discards from the opponents hand he doesn't chose to do it he HAS TO do it. But in this case since he torrential tribute himself fortress is gone and that continuous effect cannot be applied to the resolution of Gyzarus.
If he had chained bottomless
Gyzarus dies and then discards two cards from his hand.
John explained it in the replies
Hopefully get to duel y’all at the nationals in Austin!
See ya there 👋
Is it possible to get a video with quickdraw machina deck?
I just love this idea/recipe ahhaha
Not yet someone needs to win with it
@@LegacyRetroFormats "i will be there no matter what"
Ya he shoulda gyzarus the ryko and backrow, then prisma contact fuse. In general though, don't monster target fortress unless you empty your hand first. It's a monster version of dustshoot if you don't.
Luis probably could have won that game
Javi wasnt suppose to discard for fortress because the effect to discard is continuous and it was destroyed by torrential tribute.
Im sorry but i think it’s funny if he pulls out the phone to show a ruling on his own card but doesnt know its summon condition lmao Gbs too good. That prisma play would’ve been godly
You weren’t there 😭
Is there a deck list for the machine deck.
Not yet
Can you D.d crow a Machina fortress in the graveyard when they send Machina force from the hand to summon?
nope
The effect to summon itself doesn't start a chain, there's no chance to crow unless you do it preemptively.
@@zvonimirsanzanni5675 thank you
@@Midinette-bu2xq thanks
They explained in the replies
Crazy how John only missed 2 rulings that guy definitely the judge god 😭😭
Him and the owner of my locals are the 2 best judges I know
GB’s struggle with Machina, gearframe is 1800 and that little dude alone is a problem
True 3 stratos
Can he summon fortress discarding fortress? Lvl 7
You discard 2 Fortress and summon one of the 2 you discarded.
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why he didnt activate machina fortress effect when is targered for a effect monster can discard 1 card of the opponents hand
Fortress doesn't activate, it's continuous. A card is discarded from the opponent's hand at the time the effect monster targeting it would resolve. But if Fortress gets destroyed before that, like if the field gets Torrential'd on Gyzarus's summon then Fortress's continuous effect can't be applied.
They explained it in the replies
Yea he shouldn't have discarded for Fortress when the field got Torrential'd. Guy doesn't even know how his own cards work despite bringing up the ruling. Glad Javi still won though. Get it? GLAD he still won? GLAD?
😂 I get it
that torrential was an awful play and I'm pretty sure he wasnt supposed to discard
Yes he wasn’t
machina quick...what?
Machina QuickDraw 😂
Going x-1 in a 30-person tournament and not making top cut is crazy. Definitely should've been Top 8.
I'd rather risk being undefeated and lose to an x-2 in Top 8 than be an x-1 and not make top cut. Just my two cents.
Yes it’s Konami policy apparently and my store does everything by the book